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A torrent site is for downloading shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by mummysboy
the question boils down to where do you draw the line, im sure there are many sites which would be thrilled to be taken down at the slightest offering.
I understand where the admins of Tophos are coming from, and I also think this saga has gone on for too long. I agree with Benchez's view on the whole matter.
Yes. They can ban every1 that post something about them. Im not member of TH. But if I so, I'll not post nothing about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by polarbear
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by mummysboy
Don't forget also post the urls. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmi Hendrix
lol Here we go again. Last time someone posted a review it got deleted then, what will change this time?
FBI, you're the man!
Well said, I agree with every word Sgt. put down. Too much hassle...for nothing."Why so serious?"Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtMajor
I'm all for diplomacy but this has little to do with pride and more to do with site policy.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
The way I see it, it simply isn't FST's duty to keep torrent sites "safe" and happy because this is a forum to discuss all things filesharing related,(bittorent is only a section of FST,lot of ppl forget that,I mean this is a massive board), and Skizo has reiterated this many times, yet somehow torrent site owners somehow feel they're entitled to certain benefits/privileges.
They need to remind themselves from time to time that this is NOT their site, and they're guests just like you and me.
Now,let's assume for a second that FST succumbs to the pressure of torrentsites and they don't post a review. Later on,site owners might demand that the invite sections be scrapped off because it's against their rules. This would inturn affect the traffic generated for FST. So where do you draw the line?
Btw,the tainted impression that most torrent sites have about FST isn't gonna improve, trust me the damage has already been done.
Lastly the most noticeable aspect that's come out of this mess is that not many members give a shit about FST which is pity . Idoleyes,I know you do care abt FST but not many others do which is disappointing, members here need to start thinking about FST's interests too and not just torrent sites but I'm not too optimistic about this change. Well,let's just hope for the best.
I considered I lot of those points before I posted soulreaper and I can't say I totally disagree with any of them.Just given two paths I always try to take the high road.Quote:
Originally Posted by soulreaperI'm all for diplomacy but this has little to do with pride and more to do with site policy.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
The way I see it, it simply isn't FST's duty to keep torrent sites "safe" and happy because this is a forum to discuss all things filesharing related,(bittorent is only a section of FST,lot of ppl forget that,I mean this is a massive board), and Skizo has reiterated this many times, yet somehow torrent site owners somehow feel they're entitled to certain benefits/privileges.
They need to remind themselves from time to time that this is NOT their site, and they're guests just like you and me.
Now,let's assume for a second that FST succumbs to the pressure of torrentsites and they don't post a review. Later on,site owners might demand that the invite sections be scrapped off because it's against their rules. This would inturn affect the traffic generated for FST. So where do you draw the line?
Btw,the tainted impression that most torrent sites have about FST isn't gonna improve, trust me the damage has already been done.
Lastly the most noticeable aspect that's come out of this mess is that not many members give a shit about FST which is pity . Idoleyes,I know you do care abt FST but not many others do which is disappointing, members here need to start thinking about FST's interests too and not just torrent sites but I'm not too optimistic about this change. Well,let's just hope for the best.
Well, then do it. But dont come back complaining that you get banned from TH or something like that.
FST isnt their site, but TH it is.
As Jimmy Hendrix said it before. If you post some screenshot from TH, do the same thing with all those top secret sites. And post their url too.
Im member of some high level tracker and Im a member of FST. I'll respect both wishes. Talk on FST as long as I dont break any rule of any site.
That means never post the url, post some screenshot with the full name and all that the site doesnt want that I do. That are their rules and I'll stick to them.
the main thing that i don't understand, is what's so special about this tracker? isn't there other problems on fst, more important than forwarding here some rude discussions? i mean, i see here a lot less positive activity than half year ago, zaa, MM - well, i believe problems could be dealt in more peaceful way, they didn't had such bad manners as some regular flamers that are staying here and are feeling fine.. wta/wtaw ratings are such a mess and poorly updated, can't see any reason for example why sdbits, dvdquorum and (huh) torrents.ru aren't there, instead - yeah, TTC, praise the lord ))) generally, at the other places can't remember when i heard for the last time something good about FST (. When month ago ScT made their invites half-priced, how many GA's we saw here? this is sad. as for poll - 3rd option, of course, i don't give a ...
i agree they have a strong community
Sure they do.
"posting screens" can be considered like "trading/giving invites"....FST allows it but the responsibility is solely on the person who decided to do it and go against their tracker....I mean detale is/was in ptn and he knows how "giveaways/trades" work when advertsied in FST..why not go to war with them too?
Exactly. You worry bout your site, we'll worry bout ours.Quote:
Originally Posted by halbora
ask canalstreet for advice on how to avoid tophos at all costs :lol:
Im a proud member of Tophos staff. I personally dont care if you review the site or not. Its a great site and a close knit family...you attack one, then you have attacked all. If it were such a bad site , then why do people pm me all the time for invites?? furthermore, people that have been caught cheating and banned go so far as to offer to donate to get back in. 7,000 members cant be wrong. As far as staff stealing donations...there was 1 incidence of that happening..that person was swiftly delt with and banned. Melvinmeow,Adam and others are some of the fairest and most honest people i have ever met online. skizo....you drew first blood...deal with it, dont involve 2 sites over your bullshyt.
I hope you don't accept those donations. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by razorxmuse
:glag:
I personally dont accept any donations....but i trust the ones that do.Quote:
Originally Posted by integralI hope you don't accept those donations. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by razorxmuse
Netwon And Leibniz.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787Integral doesn't have a father,Immaculate Conception you know.:innocent:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnblow
i voted no for the simple reason is it worth it if you post it your just going to make things worse for FST members and the torrent site members
i also know that FST does not give a fuck about torrent sites or there safety once again that's FST's call i am not going to fight over the right's and wrongs of what your doing the staff here know my feeling on how you handle things.
But unless you want things to get alot worse for both sites in question i would just let this drop.
life is way to short to get caught up in petty wars that in the end will just end bad anyway
I voted no...../me is waiting to see melvins responce to this thread still
+1 I just haven't voted, don't believe it would change something.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonsonica
Congrats, in these two sentences you've managed to capture the entire issue here, which is that you've gone to this fight for the wrong reasons!Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
It's one thing if you do something because you think the members and the site will benefit from it, but it's an entirely different thing when you're doing something just to make a point. This thing had transcended the question of whether TopHos will have a review or not a long time ago, it's now a matter of egos.
The only way is for Skizo to just admit he accidently used RatioTorrentCheatMaster Version 1.0 :o
why do you think he was banned from oink and railed against them for so long :whistlingQuote:
Originally Posted by Alien5
Not for cheating. :blink:
Don't try denying it...you experimented with Free SceneTorrents Upload Awesome ThingQuote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
Note: Topic deleted, if you missed it bad luck
...and in all seriousness, you really missed the joke by lysine? :unsure:
It wasn't deleted; merely trashed. I can still see it.
If lysine's comment was jocular, I couldn't tell. My sense of humor is a bit scant these days.
They're the same thing to a forum peasant like myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by pro267Congrats, in these two sentences you've managed to capture the entire issue here, which is that you've gone to this fight for the wrong reasons!Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Detale, if you're making an active effort to do something just because it pisses MM off, then you can hardly complain if MM and the others treat you like shit.
You don't get respect by disrespecting others.
To the people who say it's not FSTs job to keep sites hidden, no it isn't. But nor is it their job to actively expose each and every site to the public.
On the other side of this coin, it's not the torrent sites job to respect FST or its members in any way whatsoever. Why shouldn't they ban people from their sites just because they are FST members? Why shouldn't they release all kinds of info about FST staffers?
If everyone took the "we only look after us" attitude, there would be no sites for you to sign up on because they'd all be locked down tighter than a nuns arsehole and everybody here would risk having their details sent to the mafiaa.
Ok so to be clear Adam seemed like a decent guy, he really did. I did not BEG him as I have never begged anyone for anything. I am trying to be civil here and above my normal aggressiveness, but these posts are making it hard. I am not going to say anything bad about adam until I speak with him again about these quotes that are supposed to be him. What I can say is that I tried to have an open discussion here and the TH fanboys are being childish yet again. BTW here is the entire convo, if there is a discrepancy by all means see me on MSN Adam writes in Blue I am in Black.
*removed in good faith
Naysayers, what do you have to say now? Adam and i seemed to be OK with each other and now that Mel was caught in yet another lie he is striking back like this. Sad really that someones life would be so uninteresting that they would have to make up stuff like this. At least make up something really interesting not "He had me on MSN Block" :cry:
OK to be clear it was on principal that the bullying of our members WILL NOT be tolerated and the fact that the review was removed out of fear is NOT right. We have some really cool CR's here and their site has to be there against their wishes so why should this guy not have his there too?
Bullying of your members?
Wasn't the guy who was crying like a little bitch because he got global banned a TH member? A member who couldn't respect TH enough not to leak screenies. He got what he deserved.
As has been pointed out elsewhere though, this is a little hypocritical. It's not OK for TH to scare people into removing reviews, but it's OK for you to try and scare TH by threat of exposure into never banning someone who is also a member here?
You don't want to play by their rules, but you want them to play by yours.
If you and adam are actually getting on OK, then work on building some mutual respect. Stirring shit up and threatening to post a review regardless of anything that's said (based on poll results) is not the way to do it.
"hes mad at melvin and won't drop the tophos bullshit"
I'm not mad at melvin. I don't get mad at the internet or strangers on it. I do however tire of trashing silly threads which the tophos staff continue to create. The whole thing is silly.
"melvin OFFERED to send reality screenshots of tophos, ones that didn't compromise any user nics nor uploaders. and reality agreed. but skizo pushed to get more images."
That is just plain incorrect, in part if not in it's entirety.
If Melvin offered Reality screenshots, I know nothing of it. As I have said in the Shite thread, I certainly didn't refuse to use them or push for more images. Stoi (if I recall) mentioned that tophos did not have a review posted. Thus, I made a thread asking if anyone had some. Nothing more. There was no malicious intent.
I have not been made privy to any details of any conversation of that sort between melvin and reality.
EDIT: Speaking to reality now on MSN about this. I asked if melvin ever offered him screenshots and his response was:
You don't need to send them anyway. Reviews are posted by users and need no moderator/admin approval. If you say you want a review, then post one and be done with it.Quote:
9/21/2008 10:46 PM RealitY: no way
9/21/2008 10:47 PM RealitY: well offered and then when asked for them refused to
"i didnt go on to attack fst, my issue is with the man/wannabe man that WONT talk to us."
If that reference is to me, no one has expressed a want to talk to me with regard to the matter. My MSN info is visible in my profile and always has been.
If there was a request in one of the many flame threads that were posted, I wouldn't have seen it. Members reported those and they were simply trashed. I know I didn't read them. If said request were mentioned in an adult manner, it would have been well received.
in a nutshell :lol:
Detale: "You're a doo-doo head."
Tophos: "You wet the bed."
Detale: "You kissed your sister."
Tophos: "You're a gorilla's butt." (major laughter from surrounding crowd... major score!)
Detale: "I know you are, but what am I?"
Now, no matter what the second kid says, the speaker of the ultimate comeback will just deflect any insult right back to the source. After four or five futile attempts, the second kid gives up in a huff, mentions "That's so lame!", then wanders off to throw dirt at the icky girls.
Little bitch!? A bit much for a man of your usually calm nature bro, beneath you really. I'm not asking anything of TH ATM only to have a general respect for us and our members as we do them( within limits ). As far as I know posting screens was not against TH rules at the time. If the usernames were exposed I do apologize,we usually edit them out, but this is not the same topic as that other one RVT, this is simply asking the members here if we should post the review. I am here for the members so I figure I could see what they had to say about it. If they are too scared to post one and still want one then I will do it for them on their behalf. Honestly now man, you're a sensible guy look at all the deleted posts here from the pro TH side trash talking and spreadaing even more lies. To your knowledge have you ever even heard of me telling a lie?? I know you're "in the club" but lets be real here. Hopefully Adam and I can stop all the nonsense but he will need to speak with whoever is still posting all this shit in an otherwise reasonable and respectful thread and from what it looks like now stop believing Mel's bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by rvt
EDIT: You didn't touch on this point bro
We have some really cool CR's here and their site has to be there against their wishes so why should this guy not have his there too?
Wow did you come up with this all by yourself?? Veeeery intelligent AND helpful, ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by blackbird
EDIT: OK so I just checked my Gmail and here we go. First his E-mail
And my replyQuote:
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:13 AM, joe joey <*[email protected]> wrote:
lol they were right. after we talked very decently trying to resolve this situation(that you guys totally started) we are now terrorists and u only posted the emails and not u kissing my ass to be nice and discuss it like adults. funny how u then started a thread and , conveniently, left all of that out. the kids, melvin and skizo, the deal with reality 2 weeks ago that skizo stomped on, how u werent really friends with skizo, your 3 children. etc....W-O-W what a 2 faced phony you are. oh and i was shown proof of you trying to sell invites on ebay=youre the liar. and quite the phony it appears eh? its k...MY TURN. i did warn ya now didnt i? lol. its k ill get our entire msn messy convo posted on your site, skizo should love how u defended him eh? guess what? im not amused anymore....tata dickless
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Again you resort to being a child. We did speak decently and what?? I posted the important points, look now I already posted the entire thing. Kiss YOUR ass!!?? never happened I have never kised and ass in my life. Dude I'm not afraid of you in the least, why should I be? Skizo and I aren't really close AND?? He's still a good guy simply because we don't speak every day means what?? What are you getting at? Do you feel my posting those points harmed you in some way? Do you think it was intentionally to publicly humiliate you in some way? This was the TRUTH it is EXACTLY what happened nothing more. To be clear I invite ANY and ALL proof you have to be posted on MY site for all to see, you have my word I will resign asap and give up ALL torrent accts I have and MY word is good. Now if you care to be truthful and sensable thats OK too, you have me on MSN whenever I'm on.
AGAIN: I DARE you to post the invite selling proof on FST. On my word it will not be deleted and MY word is good as always
is this finally approaching resolution?.......i think most folks cant remem ber whether Tophos want a review but havent got one........or they dont want one
This thread is creating more heat than light........make up guys and figure out whats best for all concerned
I voted no. It's about respecting
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Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten us into.