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Re: People with young children....
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Barbarossa
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Originally Posted by
puckface
Also, at least here in the US (I don't know where you are from) people do not have the right to do as they please if it effects others (unfortunately). Examples being: smoking in public places, seatbelts, motorcycle helmets etc etc.. That's the real world here.
As far as I know nobody has ever died from listening to a screaming child :mellow:
Contributing to high blood pressure is sure a killer. Ask any doctor.
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puckface
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pentomato
In my opinion you are the one that is greedy not wanting to have kids, only thinking about yourself and your selfish ways, second if you don't like it when kids cry, stay home, people with kids have the right to do as they please, who cares about what you want or feel? welcome to the real world
Well, I think I am not being greedy. I dont want kids because:
a. I would be a horrible father
b. my wife works a "real" day job and I own a business that has me gone from 10am until 330am most days. What kind of father would I be If I were home for 7 hours a day and 6 of them were spent sleeping? Riddle me that.
Also, at least here in the US (I don't know where you are from) people do not have the right to do as they please if it effects others (unfortunately). Examples being: smoking in public places, seatbelts, motorcycle helmets etc etc.. That's the real world here.
FFS, you're claiming that most women have a "fake" day job, where they have all the time in the world to spend with their children? :lol: You're living in a bubble, matey..
And if you really wanted to have kids, you'd manage your way around your tight schedule.. Just ask students who have kids (Uni students, obviously), and other businessmen with full schedules that have kids.. You're using that as an excuse as to why you're a blessing to this world that you have decided not to have kids and spare us of 1 more kid who might just decide to scream because he wants some milk for breakfast..
As it is, do you not think that when you were a toddler, you probably threw tantrums and cried out loud on a number of occasions to try get what you want? Have you not complained to your parents for not keeping you home until you could put together 15-word-sentences with a total of over 80 letters per sentence in every conversation with a human being?
Jesus... :blink:
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Re: People with young children....
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puckface
I own a business that has me gone from 10am until 330am most days. What kind of father would I be If I were home for 7 hours a day and 6 of them were spent sleeping? Riddle me that.
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I don't know what kind of a father it would make you, but it must make you a terrible husband. I doubt your marriage will survive for long like that.
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^True, never thought of that :ermm:
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Originally Posted by
Squeamous
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Originally Posted by
puckface
I own a business that has me gone from 10am until 330am most days. What kind of father would I be If I were home for 7 hours a day and 6 of them were spent sleeping? Riddle me that.
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I don't know what kind of a father it would make you, but it must make you a terrible husband. I doubt your marriage will survive for long like that.
...but he's away for most of the time. Surely that makes him a brilliant hubbie :lol:
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Squeamous
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Originally Posted by
puckface
I own a business that has me gone from 10am until 330am most days. What kind of father would I be If I were home for 7 hours a day and 6 of them were spent sleeping? Riddle me that.
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I don't know what kind of a father it would make you, but it must make you a terrible husband. I doubt your marriage will survive for long like that.
Ironically, we have the best marriage out of anyone that we know. The reason for that I think is that we dont see too much of each other. We have dinner together and see each other weekends. Been together 11 years and going strong.
I'm a great husband. :D
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tralalala
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puckface
Well, I think I am not being greedy. I dont want kids because:
a. I would be a horrible father
b. my wife works a "real" day job and I own a business that has me gone from 10am until 330am most days. What kind of father would I be If I were home for 7 hours a day and 6 of them were spent sleeping? Riddle me that.
Also, at least here in the US (I don't know where you are from) people do not have the right to do as they please if it effects others (unfortunately). Examples being: smoking in public places, seatbelts, motorcycle helmets etc etc.. That's the real world here.
FFS, you're claiming that most women have a "fake" day job, where they have all the time in the world to spend with their children? :lol: You're living in a bubble, matey..
No what I was saying is that I don't have a "real" job. I don't collect a proper paycheck and don't have a boss. She is the actual money maker in the family although obviously our business income helps a lot.
Please don't jump to conclusions.
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People can only read what you post and base their reactions on that.
I read it the same way as the dumb kid.
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Originally Posted by
puckface
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Originally Posted by
pentomato
In my opinion you are the one that is greedy not wanting to have kids, only thinking about yourself and your selfish ways, second if you don't like it when kids cry, stay home, people with kids have the right to do as they please, who cares about what you want or feel? welcome to the real world
Well, I think I am not being greedy. I dont want kids because:
a. I would be a horrible father
b. my wife works a "real" day job and I own a business that has me gone from 10am until 330am most days. What kind of father would I be If I were home for 7 hours a day and 6 of them were spent sleeping? Riddle me that.
Also, at least here in the US (I don't know where you are from) people do not have the right to do as they please if it effects others (unfortunately). Examples being: smoking in public places, seatbelts, motorcycle helmets etc etc.. That's the real world here.
Guess what? People here in the US do it all the time, there are day cares for people that work. Because you have to sleep that wouldn't make you a horrible father. You are never ready to be a father until you do.
It is not the samething smoking and having a kid, that is out of place.
I don't ware my seatbelt because of a law, and of course it should be the law, well it saved my life andmy daugther's as well.
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puckface
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Squeamous
I don't know what kind of a father it would make you, but it must make you a terrible husband. I doubt your marriage will survive for long like that.
Ironically, we have the best marriage out of anyone that we know. The reason for that I think is that we dont see too much of each other. We have dinner together and see each other weekends. Been together 11 years and going strong.
I'm a great husband. :D
That's not a marriage, thats sharing an apartment, it is called convenience.
For what you know, she may be doing it with anyone, you will never know, not that you care either.
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JPaul
That's out of order.
quite. everyone is different. I trust my wife, you may not (if youre married). If you dont, your marriage needs some looking at.
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puckface
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JPaul
That's out of order.
quite. everyone is different. I trust my wife, you may not
He probly doesn't even know your wife. :blink:
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pentomato
Guess what? People here in the US do it all the time, there are day cares for people that work. Because you have to sleep that wouldn't make you a horrible father.
Don't believe in day care but that's a conversation for another day.
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JPaul
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puckface
quite. everyone is different. I trust my wife, you may not
He probly doesn't even know your wife. :blink:
maybe hes the one shes doing stuff with. ya never know.
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:O
Cuckolded on the internets.
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Mulder must be back in town.
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I've got young kids, like. When we eat out, they'll occasionally act up. They act up because they're excited to be out in a different setting. I'll chastise them quietly but I certainly won't make a scene in public. It's embarrassing. I've seen parents being over-zealous when disciplining their child in super-markets and the like. My first reaction is to want to punch that parent squarely in the chops.
On holiday a few months ago, the kids were going absolutely buck mad in the airport. If there weren't so many people about, my boot would have been deposited liberally in their arses many times over. But the bottom line is, they had never been in an airport and they were excited.
I notice other people looking and their expression is more of pity for the parents and the embarrassment/frustration we endure in trying to keep the kids under control. If someone were to complain to me about it, I'd tell them to fuck right off, I'm doing my fucking best here.
I suppose the point of all this shite is, how the fuck are kids supposed to learn to behave in a public setting without having first been introduced to one? Or something.
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chalice
I've got young kids, like. When we eat out, they'll occasionally act up. They act up because they're excited to be out in a different setting. I'll chastise them quietly but I certainly won't make a scene in public. It's embarrassing. I've seen parents being over-zealous when disciplining their child in super-markets and the like. My first reaction is to want to punch that parent squarely in the chops.
On holiday a few months ago, the kids were going absolutely buck mad in the airport. If there weren't so many people about, my boot would have been deposited liberally in their arses many times over. But the bottom line is, they had never been in an airport and they were excited.
I notice other people looking and their expression is more of pity for the parents and the embarrassment/frustration we endure in trying to keep the kids under control. If someone were to complain to me about it, I'd tell them to fuck right off, I'm doing my fucking best here.
I suppose the point of all this shite is, how the fuck are kids supposed to learn to behave in a public setting without having first been introduced to one? Or something.
see, now that's a good thing. I'm talking mostly about the idiots who ignore their kids and let them run amok without doing a damn thing. Obviously everyone acts up (adults included) but its when shit gets out of hand and when parents know their kids are gonna act up and don't give a shit is what bugs the fuck out of me.
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Re: People with young children....
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chalice
I've got young kids, like. When we eat out, they'll occasionally act up. They act up because they're excited to be out in a different setting. I'll chastise them quietly but I certainly won't make a scene in public. It's embarrassing. I've seen parents being over-zealous when disciplining their child in super-markets and the like. My first reaction is to want to punch that parent squarely in the chops.
On holiday a few months ago, the kids were going absolutely buck mad in the airport. If there weren't so many people about, my boot would have been deposited liberally in their arses many times over. But the bottom line is, they had never been in an airport and they were excited.
I notice other people looking and their expression is more of pity for the parents and the embarrassment/frustration we endure in trying to keep the kids under control. If someone were to complain to me about it, I'd tell them to fuck right off, I'm doing my fucking best here.
I suppose the point of all this shite is, how the fuck are kids supposed to learn to behave in a public setting without having first been introduced to one? Or something.
Plus four.
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puckface
see, now that's a good thing. I'm talking mostly about the idiots who ignore their kids and let them run amok without doing a damn thing. Obviously everyone acts up (adults included) but its when shit gets out of hand and when parents know their kids are gonna act up and don't give a shit is what bugs the fuck out of me.
They shouldn't sell haribo's :angry:
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see now I didnt know what Haribo was until just now.
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The Halal Haribos for Muslim children
By MARTIN DELGADO, Mail on Sunday
Last updated at 21:54 18 November 2006
Leading sweets manufacturer Haribo has launched a Halal version of its products aimed specifically at Muslim children.
Haribo began selling the fruit-flavoured jellies, which have been approved by senior clerics, at Asda supermarkets earlier this month.
The sweets do not contain gelatin, which is unacceptable to Muslims because it is made of animal products forbidden under Islamic law.
Alcohol-based colourings and flavourings have also been taken out.
The only difference in the packaging is a green sticker with the word Halal written in English and Arabic.
It is the first time a major confectionery firm has launched a range of products for Muslim consumers.
At present the sweets are being sold only in areas of the North West with large Muslim populations, but there are plans to extend into other parts of the country later this year.
Eight varieties, including the top-selling Gummi Bears, are being distributed in Britain by Manchester-based businessman Neville Finlay, who claims to have been working on the idea for 15 years. He says the products have been a huge success.
The complex new manufacturing process, which involves replacing gelatin with naturally grown cells called hydrocolloids, is carried out at a factory in the Austrian city of Linz.
The sweets are then imported into Britain by Mr Finlay's company, Forest Tree Foods.
The 54-year-old businessman said: "There is a huge market out there for Halal sweets if you can get rid of the gelatin. The Haribos taste more or less the same as the standard product but their texture is a fraction softer and they are not quite so rubbery.
"Sales have been phenomenal. More than 10,000 packets are being sold each week and we hope to sign contracts soon with both Morrisons and Woolworths.
"We sell in mainly Muslim areas. The supermarkets give us instructions according to their customer profiles and then we react.
"I am an Orthodox Jew so my presence in the Halal market might be seen by some as a little weird. But there has never been any friction with my customers and I see the whole thing as a fine example of peaceful multiculturalism.
"The supermarkets have recognised that they can expand into this market without damaging their core trade by withdrawing existing products from their shelves."
Mr Finlay said an Imam from the Muslim Association of Austria had visited the factory to check on the manufacturing process and every ingredient had been given a Halal food certificate.
The Halal Haribos cost the same as the standard product - 79p for a 100g bag - and have their own display rack in some shops.
German firm Haribo, formed in 1920, is one of Europe's biggest sweet manufacturers, selling its products in more than 150 countries.
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Re: People with young children....
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Squeamous
I totally agree with the OP. If a kid spazzes out in a public place you yank them outta there, drag them home and put them to bed. Even if it's 10am in the fucking morning. I don't have kids btw :snooty:.
Would never have guessed :shifty:
Kids can get hyper and I can only speak for mine but when hyper, SGG in particular, could moon walk sideways up walls (orange smarties were good for this). However there is a difference between a kid on duracel batteries and an obnoxious ill mannered little git (often a carbon copy of the parent to be honest). Sometimes tiring, the former are just being kids and there is nothing wrong with that at all - the latter we should be allowed to line up to take a free boot at (and give the kid a quick clip around the ear too). :whistling imho
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Did I hear tell of a reversal in Scottish legislation as regards to spanking children?
Or what?
Could be confused. It's been known to happen.
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chalice
Did I hear tell of a reversal in Scottish legislation as regards to spanking children?
Or what?
Could be confused. It's been known to happen.
Search me :idunno: It has been discussed but I can't remember what they decided.
Anyhoo I think SGG would look askance if I took that approach these days -and then kick me in the nuts :pinch:
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I know in Wales that it's practically mandatory, like.
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Smacking and the Law in the United Kingdom
Prior to 1998, British parents were afforded the right to use “reasonable chastisement” to discipline their children but the subjective term “reasonable” was never well explained. In September of that year, the European Court of Human Rights decided that this law did not adequately protect children’s rights and so the Children’s Act of 2004 sought to clarify the laws surrounding smacking. Under Section 58 of the Act, smacking remains legal as long as it does not cause visible bruises, grazes, scratches, swelling or cuts. As of June 2007, these conditions provoked a Ministerial review of Section 58 of the Children’s Act with some Ministers again calling for an outright ban on smacking children. Scotland operates some smacking bans, and strict definitions of “reasonable” punishments. The Northern Ireland Commissioner for Children and Young People is seeking a full and outright ban on smacking children.
I think it's for weans under 3 in Scotland.
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Yep, that's it, JP. Knew there was something in Scotland not quite in keeping with the rest.
Cheers.
Devolution is a wonderful thing when politicians actually talk to each other.
Wouldn't know much about that myself. :01:
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I'm not sure which devolved issue covers it.
Education, Health or Law and Order presumably.
Maybe all three.
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JPaul
Smacking and the Law in the United Kingdom
Prior to 1998, British parents were afforded the right to use “reasonable chastisement” to discipline their children but the subjective term “reasonable” was never well explained. In September of that year, the European Court of Human Rights decided that this law did not adequately protect children’s rights and so the Children’s Act of 2004 sought to clarify the laws surrounding smacking. Under Section 58 of the Act, smacking remains legal as long as it does not cause visible bruises, grazes, scratches, swelling or cuts. As of June 2007, these conditions provoked a Ministerial review of Section 58 of the Children’s Act with some Ministers again calling for an outright ban on smacking children. Scotland operates some smacking bans, and strict definitions of “reasonable” punishments. The Northern Ireland Commissioner for Children and Young People is seeking a full and outright ban on smacking children.
I think it's for weans under 3 in Scotland.
But the ones under three are the ones least likely to stab you when you are asleep as revenge! :O Shome Mishtake Shurley?
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So are you or are you not allowed to smack under 3's? Because I seriously think there is not much wrong with a wee slap on the behind :huh:
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Skweeky
So are you or are you not allowed to smack under 3's? Because I seriously think there is not much wrong with a wee slap on the behind :huh:
As far as I know a wee warning whack has never been the issue - it is the psychos who lose the plot in Woolies or similar that would fall foul of such legislation (no matter the age of the kid)
Cattle prods are right out though ...
at least that was my reading of it.
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I think strictly speaking it's banned for under threes. However the spirit is to stop excessive or unreasonable punishment.
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JPaul
I think strictly speaking it's banned for under threes. However the spirit is to stop excessive or unreasonable punishment.
Our metal work teacher at school would have defined excessive as capital punishment .....well excepting for smoking in the boiler-room and cheeking teachers obviousment :fear:
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What about corporal punishment then?
I got my fuck beat in regularly by Christian Brothers for no good reason, like.
Cunts. Fact.
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I don't imagine you doing metal work. True story.
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chalice
What about corporal punishment then?
I got my fuck beat in regularly by Christian Brothers for no good reason, like.
Cunts. Fact.
Did the whole family gang up on you, mate.
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The whole fucking inbred clan, mate.