They opened signups last year for a while.You can get in next time ;)just follow
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They opened signups last year for a while.You can get in next time ;)just follow
I've really no idea, has i'm only at the goat, like you. the idea i have is that they are not so different at all, with the difference that at revolt they have instituted a small tracker to share some files amongst them, and at the goat people can request invites to some sites. usually, as you see, those are the hard to get ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
relax mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by NemrodQuote:
Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
Iīm sorry but when I see in those so noble, pure and virginal forums that higher ranks can request and give invites, my alarm rings. And Iīm making reference to the goat, the sheep, the cow and whatever, all of them.
I like transparency and things being called by their name, all those sites are not more than trendy-fancy-hypocrite trading invites sites in disguise. Here traders get invite per invite, there they get invites by kissing ass, being hypocrite or because they know each and every anachronism related to laugh and are masters in when and how to post them.
Besides, I have not seen yet the first debate or topic that hasnīt been posted and discussed here before. The difference is that only self-claimed good users are allowed to sign in, although in many cases some of them have a black record bigger than Al Caponeīs.
That yes it is elitism, the worst class in my opinion.
i think you have a wrong conception of the goat (assuming you aren't yet member there ;) ).
it's a forum, very much against trading, and no giveaways whatsoever either. So, yes, the kiss-ass theory you talk about may apply (and i've seen it there often, especially because no one requests TL or IPT, it's only FTN, FSC, FTWR etc etc), but in such a reduced number of members i find it hard some might had escaped the fish net.
i don't know much about revolt except for those members that were banned and of course insult everybody there. but of course, i don't care about biased comments.
I think this kind of sites should be left alone, because it's not for the ordinary torrenter, just for those who already see bittorrent community in a broader perspective.
heck, 99% of the users here would probably be disappointed with revolt's tracker.
you're not talking about system are you? ive talked to him multiple times and he's one of the smartest and nicest guys i have met on any torrent site, i've even made a couple requests to him personally that usually arent granted on most sites and he said ok without hesitation and was very nice about it in the process. i know opinions will differ but i have a hard time seeing him just randomly being a dick to anyone that didnt deserve it. but of course this is all if you are actually talking about system, i think you are though. :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Enlightened
lets all drink from the goat and close this, no collectors whill gain nothing from this. i think.
ps: the admin is a real ass hole ? lololololol
liar, chill out pinoquio.
ps: detale think about it..... it makes sense.
So, after all Iīm not so wrong... I mean, no matter how good the disguise is, the thing is that the final goal and only reason for many of those reduced number of members is to get only high level trackers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
If itīs all about chatting, discussing, teaching-learning-sharing and blablabla... why not to remove any trace of the invite thingy?.:unsure:
Here a poor guy comes asking for an invite to TL is insulted and target for any kind of jokes, in those sites people ask for Mango and there are 20 morons wishing him good luck in public and bad luck in private... mostly because the odds thing.... you know: if you get one thatīs once chance less I have.:lol:
This is the biggest and best display cabinet ... If you are a good torrenter what you donīt get here, forget it... you wonīt get it in any other site... unless you wear other outfit there.:rolleyes:
LOL well thi sis still unconfirmed so :idunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
I know a public forum that makes them all look like jokes:fst:Quote:
Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
No Im not a member there sorry to dissapoint :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkin'Detale could proabably answer that for us. I'm interested to read is opinion of the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
In all honesty I use to think this about him myself. Then this recent unpleasantness occurred and he was no where to be found. Not even an answer as to why. I thought more of him. So be careful who you idolize my manQuote:
Originally Posted by interwebz
Uhhh What does? I was never even given a reason from them. I don't care about the ban honestly it was no loss on my part and I prob would have gotten banned for inactivity anyway. The way it was handled was the part that is totally fucked and uncalled for. I held them in the highest reguard and I expected a classier ban I guess lol. I say again be careful who you idolize ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by benficao
do this guys like to be flame?????why they ask this questions :lol:
Detale i think it only makes sense that a forum that is against torrent traders will ban someone who banned a trader hunter. ( i'm not trying to take part in the equation just staying neutral and this makes sense to me ).
It has been said a dozen times. We are just a forum/irc. The tracker is only for requests and bullshit. For reference there are only 12 torrents listed at this time.
You might think we are elitist because we've never had serious open signups and we are careful about who to invite but imho that is perfectly normal for a group of friends. Or you might think that we are elitist because we do have a few people that probably actually know something about the workings of Computers, Networks, BitTorrent Protocol, Trackers, Communities and/or the Internet and they can be vocal about things they opose or support. But there is enough fun and bullshit (oh and pr0n :P) on the forums to compensate for those fun little discussions/outburts :P
The fact is the people that are actively looking to join Revolt usually don't fit in. The people that don't care about revolt but are simply fun to hang out with or have chats with are a lot more likely to feel right at home :P
-- a long-term Revolt member.
I am interested. I wanna join and see its forum and members and hang out there. and hopefully, I will like it.
I know they opened last year. I have read a thread abt it. and alot of people got in but also a lot of people got banned too because of inactivity. so they prob wont open signups again.
so I am interested to join. but how can I join?.
wow, I see a lot of hate and good points about revolt.
@detale, so you got disabled at revolt, live with it and stop spitting your dummy, time you stopped going round saying this that and other about staff and the running of the place, I know a few staff on there, even tho I'm not a member of place, I still have high regards for staff and members alike at revolt.
As for the rest of you that never even been members there, get your facts right before you start dissing the place.
You can never exclude the members you are talking about and I'm sure they are making requests, but I have never seen such a request being filled there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemrod
Same rules apply there as they do elsewhere, even at FST, you won't get hard-to-get invites if you don't make friends. But it's a whole lot easier for most people to make friends on such a board, as here on FST, where you have an abundance of traders/cheaters and other trash hanging around.
I find it rather strange you are spreading such things about a forum you only recently joined. Maybe you should do some more reading and explore some of the requests and discussions of the past.
What is wrong in being a forum, where friends hang out and discuss topics that might already been discussed elsewhere. It's all about having fun with friends. Not everybody sees it that way, but I for one keep reminding some of the lesser noble members what the purpose of such forum is, and it ain't the invites (or at least it shouldn't be).
I've heard of revolt but frankly never really gave it any thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by spectator1
However spectator imo instead of disproving it's elitism by your condescending post you proved that there are at least some people there that aren't above it.
we both know that it is :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
I'm a member of the goat as you well know but I honestly feel no more comfortable giving out an invite there than here.Safer yes but no more comfortable.Quote:
Originally Posted by DismeYou can never exclude the members you are talking about and I'm sure they are making requests, but I have never seen such a request being filled there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemrod
Same rules apply there as they do elsewhere, even at FST, you won't get hard-to-get invites if you don't make friends. But it's a whole lot easier for most people to make friends on such a board, as here on FST, where you have an abundance of traders/cheaters and other trash hanging around.
I find it rather strange you are spreading such things about a forum you only recently joined. Maybe you should do some more reading and explore some of the requests and discussions of the past.
What is wrong in being a forum, where friends hang out and discuss topics that might already been discussed elsewhere. It's all about having fun with friends. Not everybody sees it that way, but I for one keep reminding some of the lesser noble members what the purpose of such forum is, and it ain't the invites (or at least it shouldn't be).
Mainly because as Nemrod said I think there is still masked intent to a lot of people there .They have just progressed to hiding it better.
Of course the only true test would be to get rid of invites entirely.But even then it would still be a place to network to help get what you want.
Sorry for my cynicism but the truly altruistic of the bittorrent world seem few and far between.
You're all moaning about revolt how you can't get an invite, or coming back dissing the place cause you got disabled for trading etc, live with it, if you where good members then you would be invited, if you going to trade the invite you got then you get disabled, simple as, the moral of the story is, Don't bite the hand that feeds you :-D
also cabalo dont talk about revolt as you are member when you are not ;)
It was actually August of 2007 that there was an open signup for revolt. It was limited to 500 members and in fact the signup lasted only a few hours. But the whole point was to find a few new good members for the forum. Out of the evil horde that descended, many were disabled extremely fast for simply not following the rather simple rules of the forum and within the first week 4/5ths had been disabled for these reasons or on investigation being an active trader there are now about 40 members left from this signup. Many of those posting in this thread have been banned from the forum, but then so many do not understand that it is a privilege not a right to belong to any private site whether it be a torrent tracker or a forum and revolt is extremely strict on its rules about those who currently trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayeR
In response to those who say the forum itself is elitist, this could not be further from the truth. The beauty of this forum is there is no censorship or judgement so members are free to discuss whatever they like in a supportive atmosphere with none of the incessant flaming that goes on elsewhere.
Revolt is simply perceived as being elitist simply because it is difficult to be invited, this 'rarity' makes those who are not members believe that it is something that it is not, most members have been in the filesharing community for a very long time and have nothing to prove or need to feel elitist.
In answer to your question PlayeR, how to join revolt, your posts here have been intelligent, having people respect what you say and having them want you to be a part of revolt is the way to membership since a member must recommend you to staff for an invite to be offered.
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Originally Posted by Disme
I am only saying that the main reason that many have for joining to sites like that is for getting invites to hard to get sites. I know thatīs not your case and many others either, mainly because you can get here or in other places what you want due to your record. Now, if they get rid of the invites thing youīll see how much decreases the number of members and activity.
Like IdolEyes, sorry for my cynicism also, but after many years I know very well that invites are the best bait, so as soon as I see that thing, and mostly when itīs like a price for participating or whatever, I wonder why to have that in a place supposedly made only for having fun. That only fact makes any comparison between any of those sites and Revolt absurd.
After all they donīt respect trackers rules either, making reviews, posting print screens and calling undesired attention to sites that donīt want that.
The only difference is that for now there are very few users, although the background is the same, the atmosphere smells fishy.
And again, itīs a general thought about all those sites, perhaps Iīm biased and that specific one is different... anyway, time as always, will tell the last word.
thank you for taking your time to answer my question, Artemis..
I guess I will have to gain people's respect. like you advised.
or even better, gain staffs' respect so they may want me to be part of their site. so no one needs to recommend, just the staffs themselves decide to..
I might not be the most contributed member there. but at least I wont be the worst member.
Just to make it perfectly clear I wasn't saying that revolt was(or wasn't ) elitist.I was merely addressing this specific part of this specific post which I thought showed arrogance that I equate with elitism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis
I got into trouble in another forum for saying something along the same lines to another member for the basically same reason which I very much stand behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by spectator1
If someone wants to convince that what they represent isn't a certain way it probably be best not to (in my mind at least) demonstrate those attributes in defending it.
Anybody who is gonna try getting into revolt, you are not supposed to try - if you fit in you will find yourself there sooner or later and if you are not then as hard as you try you might not get in or even worse get in and find yourself disappointed from what you thought of this place.
Well the fact that there were open signups a while back kind of goes against what you said. Only the people who were actively looking found it that day, wouldn't you say?Quote:
Originally Posted by vic
Hell, thats how I got into TL, my first tracker. Just kept checking the signup page everyday until it was open.
Needless to say, I missed Revolt open signups, since I wasn't actively checking. Who can say if I would like what I found or not, or anyone else for that matter. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
@Tokeman
Signups were long time ago, and the people that didn't fit was disabled as Artemis said.
Yes, they were a while back, and out of the blue, so whos to say it will never happen again?
As for the people disabled, I'm sure at least a few people who signed up are still there.
Either way, I still stand by what I said:
1. Signups can open anytime for any site, and those not looking, will miss it. Aside from that, for sites like this, you are right, they will find you, not the other way around.
2. No one knows what to expect from a secretive site until they arrive, therefor no one can tell some one that they wouldn't enjoy it. Ok, they may not 'fit in' they way the group wants, but that doesn't mean said person doesn't/wouldn't like it. This is purely opinion, and you can't make opinions for others no matter how much you want to.
Just like Tokeman said...Beauty is belong to the eye of the beholder.
Just like most kids...They're craved for certain toy, and after a few days that toy is abandoned and they want another toy.
Open sign-ups will never happen again. It was an experiment to get some new blood in, which it did, but created a hell of a lot of work for the staff weeding out all the traders. The amount of spam posted on the site at that time was ridiculous and there were very few posts worth reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tokeman
Most of those that joined in open sign-up were either looking to trade the account or hoping they could bag some invites from within revolt. They quickly got weeded out. So for anyone who might think it's a way to get all the trackers that are currently out of your reach it's not an option. They do not allow either asking for or offering invites. It's just a forum for like-minded people....nothing more
you should actually read my posts, where i explicitly say i'm not a member there, and what i'm talking about is what i hear. Turns out it was pretty accurate, by some ulterior conversations i had with a member there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serb
honestly dupe-account-serb, don't waste my time.
funny how this thread is becoming a bit of a parallel between revolt and CFS.
in one sentence: it's a bitch when one site is hard to join, isn't it ? :D
by sleeping with Detale
An ex memeber of Revolt told me she was part of it when they were the users of FileList of all places, this was before my time (2005). is that true? revolt was created by disgruntled ex-filelist staff/members unhappy with the way filelist suddenly went all spammy like demonoid?
Partly right. Revolt was started by ex-filelist staff, most of them in fact, when the admin Exo lost the plot. It wasn't originally called revolt though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien5
funny how this thread is becoming a bit of a parallel between revolt and CFS.
in one sentence: it's a bitch when one site is hard to join, isn't it ? http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../.....es/biggrin.gif
:blink: is it ? :shifty:
I've been thinking a bit about this today and the thought occurred to my tiny brain what is the point of a closed forum ?
I mean isn't half the idea of a forum to hear other viewpoints?If everyone has to be quote like minded that sounds if nothing else incredibly boring.
Of course a place where most of you cawks aren't allowed admittedly does have a certain appeal.:rolleyes:
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
So just to see if I got that right, Revolt was all good and the people were nice and down to earth when you were there, but now a few days after you got disabled the forums are suddenly dead, the site is nothing but hype and the members (some of which are still your friends) are elitists? :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Honestly, I thought you were better than that, Detale.
Maybe the case is that they can't be bothered with child like behavior, we're only hearing your point of view here, how you got disabled, blah this blah that, as was mentioned earlier, They don't like Traders etc etc, and if someone is against what they believe in, surely they're not going to allow that person to sit round table with them, come on, and why should they have to explain to you or anyone else the reason for their action, they have members there that's been there from start, like 4 years, and there must be something they like about the place other words they wouldn't be there :-/Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
what puzzles me though is, what was Detale doing there if they don't want to affiliate with anyone that supports trading?? After all that time they spent together, they decide to give him the boot?Quote:
Originally Posted by sportyloves
Sorry, did you call me a dummy?? LOL Now lets be clear- I can and WILL say whatever the fuck I like. Whew, now that that's out of the way. It's not my business or concern how the place is run or who the staff is. I am still friends with alot of them. What is my concern is how disrespectfully I was treated and if I feel like bitching about it that's exactly what I'll do. I don't know you. You don't know me, so who are you to tell me what time it is? Unless you're System mind your business. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by sportyloves
Not that I agree with it but fine. There site their rules, I'm all for it. I am complaining about how it was handled. If I ban someone they are welcome to come and try and dispute it or at very least I will give them a reason. I have banned many a trader hunter before but this guy must have had some tie to them. I was let in revolt a while ago and had a few debates there and everything so they know who I am and what I'm all about. I hid nothing. PirateEagle lied and tried to hide everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by vic
I don't always agree with all of FST's rules but they are the rules no matter what. Protecting my members is my first priority and if they come here and break the rules and go after our members then they get banned. I on the other hand had broken no rule or was even given a reason from people I held in high reguard prior to this.
It didn't do you any good :ghey:Quote:
Originally Posted by spark
Pro you're a good dude, Maybe I came across wrong so I'll try and explain better. Some of the members at revolt are cool as hell, so are most of the staff also. As I said I'm still friends with pretty much everybody there. The forums were dead a while back as I have been banned a month(maybe more) ago. In fairness maybe it was a slow time I dunno, but it was in fact dead for days with no new topics for around 2 weeks or so. Th elitist part well c'mon now man you know alot of those guys there are snooty as hell. Thinking they are above most everybody else. Even that maybe I'm a bit harsh but still the way this has been handled was waay inappropriate and is and will always be unacceptable. I was banned for doing my job a little too well. When someone gets caught breaking the rules on revolt they get banned right? Not only that but I gave the guy 3 chances to come forward and knock it off before he was banned it's not like it was without warning or out of the blue. They participated in an attemp to global ban me for a bullshit made up reason, and then didn't even have the decency to come forward and stand by their descision. Again unacceptable to me as i would never treat anyone like this and I know damn well neither would you ;) Oh and before I forget you're a homo.Quote:
Originally Posted by pro267
elitism. plain and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
I cant think of a better person to know what makes a cawk a cawk :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
C'mon D.. i wouldn't call it elitist. As sportyloves said above, you don't see members tagging on ego bars or bragging about sites and weird shit like that. It's just a group of people who've been around torrenting long enough, have what they want from all that, and long moved on to other things beyond 'can you spare me an invite brother' ;)
What i like so much about being a member is that i can go months of idle, come back, enjoy great banter and conversation, and then drift off again without any sense that I can't be heard, or join in, to whatever convo is at hand when there. Revolt's hidden beauty is its longevity and the respect that is there to speak however intelligently or humourlessly as wanted.
As for all those others those bitching about how its a crap site, they probably weren't in at all, were booted out the day they got in for being an asshat, or just like to dismiss something because that's they way they are for anything they can't or don't have.
I know you felt an injustice. Maybe in time you'll get the answer you want. Till then, maybe you're asking too loud.
Tell you what K. I'll give on the elitism thing. You're another "goodie" so I'll listen ;)
I guess my focus is more on System that the actual site. I mean it's not a jumping place or anything at least from what I saw there. But as I said most people there were cool and some of the staff are OK. Well I tried asking quietly, I tried PMing, I tried alot of things to get a simple answer. Now I guess I'll try this as well :)