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This is an example of what? :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBusiness
Did you even bother to read the first post?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone.W.MachineThis is an example of what? :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBusiness
What do you think? Just look at it... no way I'm reading all that. :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizoDid you even bother to read the first post?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone.W.Machine
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Originally Posted by Skizo
See thats where FST is going wrong they could careless about what tracker rules are as long as they can do their thing. Forget about trackers wishes, Protect the old line and not have a new way of thinking. We have seen how that's going
I don't understand this part:Quote:
Originally Posted by deadalive1
TTi - http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1442/tti.jpg
TranceRoute - http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2185/42028284.jpg
I knew it too but didnt occur to me at the time, nice oneQuote:
Originally Posted by FaithNoMoreI don't understand this part:Quote:
Originally Posted by deadalive1
TTi - http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1442/tti.jpg
TranceRoute - http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2185/42028284.jpg
@FaithNoMore and bilkenter, he said "just about," therefore not enveloping every single tracker out there.
@T.S.O.L, your statement would be somewhat flawed, unless people followed the BT news everyday. I don't see how the current reviews distinguish one tracker from another, especially with every tracker having the same screenshots.
Say the Black Rabbit tracker review and the FTN review. Both are very similar in terms of the screenshots. What differentiates both trackers can be only described in text. Why bother with the pictures? From a first glance, I would be more interested in BR, not FTN.
Can someone elucidate why Detale was banned? A previous poster mentioned that it was because he was trying to bring tracker staff and FST staff together... Intersting.
Way to much reading ... always the same discussions ... pointless and not nearly enough pictures to gain my intrest. It's like reading an encyclopedia over and over again.
At least Fun T. Clapz made an effort to lift this thread to the level it's supposed to be ... fun and games.
What the heck is interesting about it? Banned from where?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBusiness
On a side note, we don't care anything about being "together". We run our site; they run theirs.
He wasnt banned, just demoted from hes status as a BT-section Moderator.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBusiness
Just to make it clear.It was his decision.
Did you like Valkyrie?Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
proper release ?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Flying CowDid you like Valkyrie?Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
He wasn't banned.. This is just a plot to lure one of his enemies into a trap by making it look like Detale is furious at the Fst staff... and wants to expose personal info about skizoo aswell lmaooo
(melvinmewo is probably shitting bricks after reading this)
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Originally Posted by The Flying CowDid you like Valkyrie?Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
With another actor in the lead role it would have been better.
Aside from the fact the Mr Cruise was speaking a entirely different dialect than everyone else,he just brings too much baggage to a role that required a bit of believability.
Aside from that I would say not a bad film though it is hard to make a great one where people go in already knowing the ending.
(If you want to see an assassination movie that overcomes that obvious sticking point check out The Day of the Jackal...the original not the garbage remake with Bruce Willis.... although I did enjoy Jack Black getting his arm blown off:shifty:)
By a 14.5mm Cannon no less, truly gruesome...........Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Nice simplistic way to look at it...Couldn't agree more! In my BT experience I would have to agree that alot if not most are impatient users who try and trade and often trade badly. Very few are actually hard to catch. Unfortunately, there is a steady of influx of them and it just rehashes the cycle when they do get caught and banned cause now they want the site even worse...All over again...Quote:
Originally Posted by Polarbear
i miss melvin and his pink pants jokes ,there was some nice drama threads back in the daysQuote:
Originally Posted by Albo Da Kid
so uhh IdolEyes787... Would your posts be considered spam? Ironic, as a mod, that you introduce a completely random topic completely unrelated to this thread.
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...omeback-328238
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Perhaps this thread has served its point already.
I do wonder what you think about people that hang around on IRC and tracker-forums for 24 hours a day and you see them popping up in every place related to BT in about 1 month time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polarbear
I'm against trading, but I have found out that the hardest to get trackers are all populated with the same people. I guess these people are n00bs too, because they're still looking for invites to bittorrent sites. Not as obvious as a trader or a real newbie does, but still they are.
They hardly ever decline an invite when presented and keep chasing the ones that aren't in the're portfolio yet.
Good point there, Disme.Quote:
Originally Posted by DismeI do wonder what you think about people that hang around on IRC and tracker-forums for 24 hours a day and you see them popping up in every place related to BT in about 1 month time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polarbear
I'm against trading, but I have found out that the hardest to get trackers are all populated with the same people. I guess these people are n00bs too, because they're still looking for invites to bittorrent sites. Not as obvious as a trader or a real newbie does, but still they are.
They hardly ever decline an invite when presented and keep chasing the ones that aren't in the're portfolio yet.
I see the same faces no matter where I go, and I've also received multiple pms asking about invites from persons that collects.
And even though I deny them an invite I will see them on the tracker they asked about in a day or two anyways. :P
What would this place be without spam? Boring if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBusiness
IdolEyes is doing a great job here. :king:
If they, spend that much time, effort, and are nice guys, who really like to know ppl, make friends, help out in anyway, development, supporting, Etc,
Thats not a bad thing at all.
I know some of them, and mostly, theyre great ppl, who really like to get envolved, in trackers.
Thats a good thing, i think, since at least everyone knows them, they dont have notting to hide.
Maybe a closed group off ppl, but notting much. (ps: not all of them are collectors, simple curiosity, or instead, off playing games, etc, they prefer to spend their time on the irc, whille in their job hours, or something)
I only believe something is spam if it's sole purpose is to harmful,either against the thread or against another person posting in it.Even then it will have to be an extreme case before I will penalize anyone for it. cough cough BoneQuote:
Originally Posted by TrueBusiness
I don't see discussion or joking as spam .In case you hadn't noticed rl conversation has a tendency to wander off topic. I think the technical term is being friendly but I am not really that smart so I could be wrong.
Besides if you truly want to know the post wasn't really about the movie Valkyrie at all it was an inside joke about my feelings about certain policies here at FST and therefore actually on topic :O.
Does this mean that you are everywhere yourself? :D (j/k btw, because i already know that you are) :stuart:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone.W.Machine
No, I'm not everywhere, but I used to be at many places. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by danioDoes this mean that you are everywhere yourself? :D (j/k btw, because i already know that you are) :stuart:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone.W.Machine
Tell me Disme, how do you know all this unless you are a member of the very same trackers yourself?Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
This goes out to every elitist on this board who judge people they see on the forums and irc channels of these smaller trackers for being collectors, saying "no matter where i go there's always the same people talking in the forums". How do you know this? Think about that for a second. Don't be too quick to judge others because you might be just as much of a collector yourself.
Disme, i apologize if i misinterpreted your post and quoted you unfairly.
Ultimately the trackers you join should really be just an image of what you steal from the web.
Being in a tracker without, even if sporadically, stopping by there to get something, is just pointless.
Being in trackers and bragging about it is the saddest of all though.
[start novel]
My question in the whole collector issue, is where is the line between someone who is in a bunch of sites for e-penis, versus someone who is in a bunch of sites for politics, or even for the bigger community that drives the private tracker world. 2 of the 3 I don't see a problem with tbh, and don't know why anyone would. As long as interaction is occurring, and files are moving, those latter 2 cases are perfectly legitimate to me.
It's generally those members that are part of the bigger BT community that keep sites online, either through possessing and using a seedbox, or facilitating cross-site communication, not to mention, they are generally the members that actually donate to the trackers they love which is the most neccessary factor in ANY tracker staying online.
As far as politics, well... politics are a part of BT and will be as long as there is any social aspect to this field. The truth is, if you get heavily involved in any site that makes community a focus, and partake of the private bt world outside just one site, it's hard not to be at least a little curious about the sites that get talked about elsewhere. With so many sites out there, how could you not?
Truth is, trackers are easily equated with the baseball card craze of the 80's and 90's. As their popularity grew, the relative value of those cards grew at an astronomical rate until there were lots of cards worth thousands of dollars out there, which only served to drive that inflation even harder and faster. They then started to stop being about the game that they were a representation of, and started being about money alone. Rarity was a primary determination of worth, and if the parallel inferred by that isn't obvious, then I recommend spectacles.
Anyone who was a collector had a copy of Beckett's Baseball Card Price guide (=WTAW) to keep from getting robbed at the local card shows, and the really devout collectors subscribed to Becketts monthly periodical showing up to date changes in the worth of cards based on performance, popularity, rarity and quality. hmmm...
Frankly, the question really should be, how did trackers become a commodity? FST didn't do that, no matter how many people like think so. The WTAW thread may perpetuate the commodity aspect, but they didn't start that fire burning. I, personally, think that the commodity aspect is the biggest problem in private trackers and the communities that surround and support them.
I really wish I knew how that could be removed, but barring going public like mininova or isohunt, it's almost unavoidable, so you deal with it as staff. I know that the thing I hate most in my user base in inactivity, not traders. I don't actually hate traders as human beings, because that is just absurd. That may sound silly, especially considering our stance on traders, but to consider someone a lesser form of life or something to that effect because they are a trader is just ridiculous to me.
The main problem in trading, is that it's taking the "tracker" out of trackers. It stops being about torrents, and starts being about a wholly different thing than collecting files. That "thing" is incongruous with the goal of the sites themselves, and that's what makes it so dangerous. It makes security measures ineffective via removing the care for security. In fact, it has become about countering those very security measures, and that is very dangerous indeed.
Even if only 1 out of 1000 traders is a truly dangerous person to give access to ip's of your member base, that is still a defeat of the understood goal of private trackers, namely to protect those ip's.
[end novel]
I'm sure most folks will consider this post "tldr", but that is how I view things from my experience.
I am indeed part of a fair share of trackers, but I know I could be in a whole lot more if I adopted another strategy. The strategy I described earlier. Being omnipresent for a while in IRC and tracker communities to get to know people and go on an invite-scavenge. And when getting to know people a litlle better starting to sollicitate for invites to places that aren't on their memberships-list yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by danioTell me Disme, how do you know all this unless you are a member of the very same trackers yourself?Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
This goes out to every elitist on this board who judge people they see on the forums and irc channels of these smaller trackers for being collectors, saying "no matter where i go there's always the same people talking in the forums". How do you know this? Think about that for a second. Don't be too quick to judge others because you might be just as much of a collector yourself.
Disme, i apologize if i misinterpreted your post and quoted you unfairly.
That's not my modus-operandi. I tend to get to know people better and if they like me and think I could be an asset to the places they already reside and I don't they will offer me an invite, but I will not sollicitate for that myself in any way. I also decline a lot of offers, since some dedicated trackers just don't appeal to me, no matter what 'level' or 'rarity'.
I'm targetting people that tend to be everywhere and are rather active when arriving in a new place, but the moment they get a new spot on an even rarer tracker you can see their activity decline and shift to that new place, until they shift to yet another new tracker.
In the end they are omnipresent, but they stop contributing to all those places they are members. Off course not all people are like that and I know a whole lot of guys that are everywhere and remain active (I guess they have a lot of spare time :))
My reply was directed towards PB's statements on traders being n00bs because they were still chasing invites. If this is a correct assumption, not only traders are n00bs ... the other non-traders I was just describing would be n00bs too because they are also chasing invites trough other methods.
You're all over the place there. What post are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBusiness
Come on Disme drop the patronizing tone already. We've all seen you beg Feeling for an ScT invite, with a drawing done by your daughter no less. Don't tell me you started knowing Feeling better before that. The guy's a prick. You just wanted in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
Everyone here's done their share of efforts to get accepted places.
It shouldn't be a motive for embarrassment; quite the contrary, it shows how selective and in the end difficult the entry process can be, as it should. Some places are not for everyone.
You're making generalizations based on what charts and graphs? How are you certain of this 'trend'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
We all go through a curve of more activity towards the beginning of our experience in a good new tracker, and steady decline as the novelty wears off. Another factor that needs to be equated is free time and the real world.
Not everyone can surf trackers daily or even weekly, due to work.
Nobody's a newbie. PB was teasing bilkenter. There's nothing wrong with wanting into the more exclusive trackers, and that shouldn't be bashed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
Again you speak as if you didn't try to get your trackers somehow. Ultimately if it was through IRC or PM's or REQs or Lucky Draws or Competitions or GA's or whatever is irrelevant.
It is how you treat the tracker that matters. You don't need to be active 24-7 to deserve respect or to be immune to criticism. People are active according to the time they have available, and that is laid out on a person-to-person basis.
Leave tracker-chasers alone. At the end of the day the trackers need activity and interest in them, or they'll just wilt and die.
So now I beg because I participated in a giveaway started by the owner of a private tracker. I don't know but I don't see any harm in that. Not to the tracker, not to FST not to anybody in fact, except maybe you because it ain't the first time you replied to me about it. You were just the Shaman back than. Nothing has changed for me since than so I maybe you should read my previous answer to your statement about me participating in GA's.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Flying Cow
As I said I've been around long enough to see it for myself, i don't need charts or graphics backing me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Flying CowYou're making generalizations based on what charts and graphs? How are you certain of this 'trend'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
We all go through a curve of more activity towards the beginning of our experience in a good new tracker, and steady decline as the novelty wears off. Another factor that needs to be equated is free time and the real world.
Not everyone can surf trackers daily or even weekly, due to work.
And if you don't have time to visit somewhere weekly you shouldn't join :rolleyes:
No can do ... :PQuote:
Originally Posted by The Flying Cow
I don't know if its a common phrasing but its quite a common saying where i come from:
"Even the most beautiful girl has some guy who is tired of f*!*%^$ her..."
It definitely doesn't say it all, but it says some. There is a thrill of joining a new place of which you have your share of expectations. Whether these expectations are justified is a different issue. It can either be a new Job, a new Neighborhood, a new GF. At the end of the day, as humans, we all get used to to everything, even if we once thought it was the best, and start looking for new "adventures".
So what makes the difference between one person and another, two (major) things:
1. The path we took to get to the new "location" and the way we wrap things up before we "move".
2. The desire for new experiences, our interests and how long that interest lasts.
Obviously, the 2nd of the two cannot be judged, everyone agree its subjective, there is no right and wrong... I am a strong believer in the path! Though views and interpretations are subjective they are constitute the core part of how we select our friends. Dissing others for their interpretations and views is not something i view in a positive way. Making enemies has never been useful for anyone...
On another note, i've got to know Disme here and from everything i know i can say that we share just about the same views. Whether its good or bad, again, its subjective. Yet, i am glad to have him as a friend.
EDIT:I apologize if my first "quote" sound sexist, i did not intend to insult anyone i just thought it might a good illustration to the point i am trying to make...
:thumbsup: mate, that was the sentence of the day! goes straight into my daily quotes ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sagib
That's a quote from the film Hitch I believe.
I didn't say it was harmful to anyone or anything, did I?Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
I was merely remarking on your condescending tone towards people who are everywhere on the IRC active so they can get their next invite.
Forms of entering private trackers are varied and as long as you end up there the correct way are all valid.
I was also underlining that participating in a draw like Feeling's doesn't confer with your opining about "getting to know" the tracker people.
I bet if I ask Feeling who you are he won't know.
i heard this one on Nip Tuck recently :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by sagib
I honestly don't know where it came from but i can definitely tell you i heard back when those guys were still in med. school... :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by KFlinti heard this one on Nip Tuck recently :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by sagib