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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
That means when you're uploading to another site it will count on whatcd as well, and vice-versa. Hopefully you don't get banned on waffles as well assuming it was the other site you upped the appz to. I don't know of any private tracker that allows using the same torrent (file) on multiple sites.
Make a new torrent for a new site is the proper way to upload, hope you learn from your mistake.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
I've done it for so long now without knowing it could cause anything. Never been banned or warned for it before. I have 5-6 trackers and if I download something from say tracker X. I download the same file from tracker Y.. Now some sites makes it's own "torrent", and some site asks "This file already exists, would you like to load trackers from it" or something similiar. I always chose yes, believing that it was the clients way of making everything clean in the UI, not that if I download from tracker A, then B "gets the same info".
And this was what I wanted to find out, WHAT was it that made me banned. And now that I found out I am happy, I don't feel like being banned from another tracker. As I mentioned earlier, I pay for a seedbox giga from seedbox.fr and a seedbox 100/100 from a swedish guy. I would not pay for two seedboxes + my own internet if I were a cheater. I can't prove anything and I am not here to prove anything, as someone said, the logs on what.cd says more then I can. However, i still say it: I did not cheat.
I am writing here also explaining the rest because maybe someone else with similiar case reads this and can hopefully prevent being banned.
And please, once again, not everyone heard about this site, and just cause my first post was this thread don't mean I make a duplicate account, admins are more then welcome to check.
Maybe you have trolls here, or people without not brave enough to say with their real name. But if you are not brave enough, on the internet, you should stay home in the kindergarden.
Just because you find 99 apples that were bad, don't mean the 100th would be, give people a benefit of a doubt because trust me, not everyone has bad intentions. Some people makes errors without really knowing them, like in my case. And directly, without knowing me or the background story you judge me.
That's wrong.
Ok, once again, thanks for everything and for clarifying verything for me.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
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Originally Posted by
Karlitas
I am sorry to disappoint but I do not see my self as a cheater. I've made a thread about this on another forum and they said that it might have todo with me double uploading.
I upload my files on several trackers and then it asks me if I want to "add this tracker" in utorrent. I chose ofcourse yes, because if i pick no it does not add anything.
I was not here to get my account back, If i would've gotten it back, I would not complain, but I wrote here because I was acused of ratiocheating and that was unfair. If I ratiocheat I would not cheat only with 40 gig..
Secondly I am not honored as someone told me to be because whatman looked into my case. I am happy he took his time and that's appreciated.
All I wanted was an explanation to what I did wrong.
Anyways, thanks
Though it still seems a hugh mistake,your attitude is sincere and quite..hope next time you'll never make the same mistake :) Gool luck
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
ive seen forums posts elsewhere, and even heard co-workers talking about how they do this, the "add this tracker" thing... and none of them have ever got caught.. i told them its wrong, but oh wells. to the OP, I really respect your honesty with telling us about you adding multiple trackers.
no pain, no gain. we remember from our mistakes. good luck tho :dabs:
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
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Originally Posted by
Karlitas
I am sorry to disappoint but I do not see my self as a cheater. I've made a thread about this on another forum and they said that it might have todo with me double uploading.
I upload my files on several trackers and then it asks me if I want to "add this tracker" in utorrent. I chose ofcourse yes, because if i pick no it does not add anything.
I was not here to get my account back, If i would've gotten it back, I would not complain, but I wrote here because I was acused of ratiocheating and that was unfair. If I ratiocheat I would not cheat only with 40 gig..
Secondly I am not honored as someone told me to be because whatman looked into my case. I am happy he took his time and that's appreciated.
All I wanted was an explanation to what I did wrong.
Anyways, thanks
Now that made sense,but why didn't you say it earlier?
Anyways,the last fellow I recall being banned over this got his account back after some serious ass chewing on here...You should also check with waffles to avoid being banned on there too as advised.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
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Originally Posted by
sez
Now that made sense,but why didn't you say it earlier?
Anyways,the last fellow I recall being banned over this got his account back after some serious ass chewing on here...You should also check with waffles to avoid being banned on there too as advised.
I did not say it earlier because I did even not think about it for a second, more less know it was a bad thing. It was after whatman said "There was some kind of cheating" I started asking around. In one forum one guy asked me if I add multiply trackers and I said yes and he then explained that it might be the reason.
Maybe this is not the right forum then I will ask in the proper place.
Ps: Is someone else getting "page can not be found" when replying/quoting etc? I get 3 x http:/filesharing.com/vb3/
Similiar to this: http:/filesharing.com/vb3/http:/filesharing.com/vb3/http:/filesharing.com/vb3/http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3293047
ds.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
To be quite honest it seems to me, that you skip reading rules of sites and that's the main reason why you are banned. Not knowing that seeding the same file on multiple trackers could be forgiven I guess (although you would find that out by reading the FAQ), but that coupled with
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WhatMan
...(7 of which have now been deleted for breaking the rules, by the way), so you aren't getting your account back.
uploading torrents where almost 75% do not comply with the rules, also means you didn't read the uploading rules, or at least didn't read and understand them.
Honest mistake maybe, but one which could have been easily avoided, if you read the rules and FAQ. Part of this maybe due to your inviter not telling you to, but still that's the first thing you should do on any tracker.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
This is why it's a good idea to read the rules of every tracker. I suppose most people think of the rules as something which is there on every torrent site and they don't need to read it. Something like the License Agreement present in all software applications. I am pretty sure a very small portion of us read the EULA before clicking I Accept. But rules of trackers are a different case. You need to have thorough knowledge of the rules, especially on a tracker like what.cd where user uploads are permitted.
The rules.php of what.cd explicity mentions this in the Golden rules:
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Any torrent you are seeding to this tracker must only have our tracker's URL in it. Adding another tracker's URL will cause incorrect data to be sent to our tracker, and will lead to you getting disabled for cheating.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
Actually, it's hard for me to believe that the OP of this thread didn't know that adding the URLs of other trackers to his torrents would be cheating.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
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Originally Posted by
Karlitas
I am sorry to disappoint but I do not see my self as a cheater. I've made a thread about this on another forum and they said that it might have todo with me double uploading.
I upload my files on several trackers and then it asks me if I want to "add this tracker" in utorrent. I chose ofcourse yes, because if i pick no it does not add anything.
I was not here to get my account back, If i would've gotten it back, I would not complain, but I wrote here because I was acused of ratiocheating and that was unfair. If I ratiocheat I would not cheat only with 40 gig..
Secondly I am not honored as someone told me to be because whatman looked into my case. I am happy he took his time and that's appreciated.
All I wanted was an explanation to what I did wrong.
Anyways, thanks
I hate to say it, but I've done this before, thinking nothing of it....fucking utorrent shouldn't make it option, especially if DHT is disabled
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
Maybe if people read rules and made sure what was expected of them on trackers they would not do this.
To me not knowing is no excuse when if rules and faq are read it would not be a problem as would know it is not allowed :)
Just my 2 cents worth
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
Okay, I used utorrent for only an extremely brief period of time, so don't remember all the options it has.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
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WhatMan
we've got lots of data which says that you were uploading to no one on your uploads (7 of which have now been deleted for breaking the rules, by the way), so you aren't getting your account back.
cheater!! didn't you hear whatMan just said. Your upload torrents have no peers, but you are still uploading. upload to who? It's not double uploading, not DHT. it's cheating. I suggest you learn how to cheat before making a post like this.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
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Originally Posted by
EyeCandy
I hate to say it, but I've done this before, thinking nothing of it....fucking utorrent shouldn't make it option, especially if DHT is disabled
Haven't made that mistake before but I couldn't agree more.:angry:
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
@ philau - That's a bit harsh, particularly considering this is your 9th post in a year of this ID. I read this whole thread, and while ignorance isn't an excuse, and reading the rules is a good lesson to learn, I would not go so far as to call this out as cheating to the max. If in doubt, read some of the massive stupidities that other posters write about when they make their "help me I've been banned from X" threads. I give the OP credit for being honest about how they messed up, and I'm sure they learned something from it.
my two cents to add to the tin.....
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
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philau
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Originally Posted by
WhatMan
we've got lots of data which says that you were uploading to no one on your uploads (7 of which have now been deleted for breaking the rules, by the way), so you aren't getting your account back.
cheater!! didn't you hear whatMan just said. Your upload torrents have no peers, but you are still uploading. upload to who? It's not double uploading, not DHT. it's cheating. I suggest you learn how to cheat before making a post like this.
Actually, you are ignorant philau. It would be double uploading, if he had waffles.fm and what.cd in the same tracker list of the same torrent. He could be uploading data to peers on waffles, yet it would also show uploaded data on what...so, shut up, philau..Your harshness pissed me off.. :frusty:
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
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Originally Posted by
EyeCandy
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Originally Posted by
philau
cheater!! didn't you hear whatMan just said. Your upload torrents have no peers, but you are still uploading. upload to who? It's not double uploading, not DHT. it's cheating. I suggest you learn how to cheat before making a post like this.
Actually, you are ignorant philau. It would be double uploading, if he had waffles.fm and what.cd in the same tracker list of the same torrent. He could be uploading data to peers on waffles, yet it would also show uploaded data on what...so, shut up, philau..Your harshness pissed me off.. :frusty:
Double seeding is cheating regardless of what you think, and even if you do not know that it is against the rule.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
duh.. close this thread.
The question has been answered by Whatman..
no need to drag it on..
The OP is NOT getting his account back.. Period!
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
Let me just say again that I highly doubt that the OP didn't understand at first that what he was doing was cheating. I mean, it's just common sense... Even if utorrent has this supposedly confusing "Add Tracker" option (and I don't remember this option because I don't remember anything about utorrent), I highly doubt that it would ever confuse the OP.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
Well this thread is better than most. Maybe it will teach some passers by that they might benefit from reading the rules/FAQ on sites, so they don't end up in the same boat as the OP
Much more productive than half the threads here... or maybe closer to 95%
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
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Originally Posted by
OlegL
Let me just say again that I highly doubt that the OP didn't understand at first that what he was doing was cheating. I mean, it's just common sense... Even if utorrent has this supposedly confusing "Add Tracker" option (and I don't remember this option because I don't remember anything about utorrent), I highly doubt that it would ever confuse the OP.
You would be surprised at how many peeps lack the slightest bit of common-sense.
This option can be very confusing for torrent n00bs (those only using TPB and the such) what puzzles me the most is that he didn't get in any trouble by doing so on several private trackers since a long time...I guess that the other tracker's he's talking about have very very low security scripts and almost no watching staff.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
I'm still not re-enabling the account, the OP's story doesn't agree with the data, and even if it did, he would still have broken the rules. He is marked as downloading 68.64MB, but the only torrent files he's downloaded are his own, and freeleech torrents. Where did those 68.64MB come from if he was just seeding? Looks like he was ghost leeching from himself to me.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
even though 68 mb is nothing, itīs cheating so gtfo
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
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Originally Posted by
WhatMan
I'm still not re-enabling the account, the OP's story doesn't agree with the data, and even if it did, he would still have broken the rules. He is marked as downloading 68.64MB, but the only torrent files he's downloaded are his own, and freeleech torrents. Where did those 68.64MB come from if he was just seeding? Looks like he was ghost leeching from himself to me.
WhatMan, thanks yet again for your answer.
As I previously stated, my intentions is not to get my account back.
I just wanted to claryfying things.
About the download. And I have downloaded one music file. Let me check what it was called one second please
"Muse-The_Resistance-PROPER-2009-BiGW" If am not mistaking.
Anyways, as I said, I don't want my account back so that's not why I wrote here. All I wanted was to know the reason to WHY.
About the adding multi tracker options. Almost all the big trackers allow this. Some when you add a torrent it just asks you were you wanna save it. And some adds tracker.
I am glad I learned my lesson now. And maybe others could learn from me.
If a admin/mod don't mind, my question was answered so thread can be locked.
For those of you that says I am a cheater and I knew what I was doing. Okey, that's your opinion and you are entiteled to it. But open your eyes. In this world, there are things called mistakes. Not everyone know everything. This has been proven worldwide everyday.
And for those other of you. Thank you.
And for whatman, thanks for taking your time.
and for the record. I'm a she, not a he.
Thanks fst.
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Re: What.cd Banned me, for Ratiomaster
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Originally Posted by
WhatMan
I'm still not re-enabling the account, the OP's story doesn't agree with the data, and even if it did, he would still have broken the rules. He is marked as downloading 68.64MB, but the only torrent files he's downloaded are his own, and freeleech torrents. Where did those 68.64MB come from if he was just seeding? Looks like he was ghost leeching from himself to me.
If i were leeching from my self then it would still count as as download. So my ratio would not change since its going to be same x/y ratio. And why only 68mb?
Let's say I did that. I got 1000/100 and 100/100. So if I did this, I would max my bandwith with my own torrent. So within 5 seconds I would've downloaded that amount, but why only 68mb then?