what were you doing on the computer when it crashed?Quote:
Originally posted by The Kiler@13 October 2003 - 18:18
Harddrive 6 is now dead.
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what were you doing on the computer when it crashed?Quote:
Originally posted by The Kiler@13 October 2003 - 18:18
Harddrive 6 is now dead.
lol - this is not possible.Quote:
Originally posted by The Kiler@13 October 2003 - 18:18
Harddrive 6 is now dead.
a virus cannot be stored in RAM, cuz ram doesn't store information permanently. nor is there a place 2 store on mobo.
when these hard drives "die" - r they clunking or anything when the pc tries 2 access them like during POST?
in bios, r they detected? when using FDISK, can u access them?
no way did a puter kill 6 hard drives!
are you installing these yourself? or did you have any of them professionally installed?
I think we should consider this thread dead if he is not willing to give us some actual facts.
lol - this is not possible.Quote:
Originally posted by kurtsl0an+13 October 2003 - 16:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 13 October 2003 - 16:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-The Kiler@13 October 2003 - 18:18
Harddrive 6 is now dead.
a virus cannot be stored in RAM, cuz ram doesn't store information permanently. nor is there a place 2 store on mobo.
when these hard drives "die" - r they clunking or anything when the pc tries 2 access them like during POST?
in bios, r they detected? when using FDISK, can u access them?
no way did a puter kill 6 hard drives! [/b][/quote]
POST acts normal
Bios is UPDATED
Harddrive SOMETIMES is detected and somtimes is detected as Å Å Å Å Å Å Å .
Fdisk says "Specified Hard disk can not be opened, No disk or disk is invalid."
ALL is installed by myself.Quote:
Originally posted by Mik3ll@13 October 2003 - 17:05
are you installing these yourself? or did you have any of them professionally installed?
I jumper according to website and sticker. I connect with IDE cable and I plug in power. I screw on the HDD and on goes the computer. Simple.
dude - that's messed. get new mobo - cheaper than a hd anyway!Quote:
Originally posted by The Kiler@13 October 2003 - 23:42
POST acts normal
Bios is UPDATED
Harddrive SOMETIMES is detected and somtimes is detected as Å Å Å Å Å Å Å .
Fdisk says "Specified Hard disk can not be opened, No disk or disk is invalid."
have u tested these "dead" hd's in any other puter?
If your HDDs are truly dying, i.e will not reformat in another machine. I would suggest your Power Supply is probably up the creek.
i would guess p.s. if the hard drives were clunking - since a bad p.s. would give 2 much and 2 little power to the hd. he hasn't mentioned clunking - but good test 2 use in another puter.Quote:
Originally posted by AndrewBarker@14 October 2003 - 00:35
If your HDDs are truly dying, i.e will not reformat in another machine. I would suggest your Power Supply is probably up the creek.
This is the information on the "dead" hard drive. This HDD is on another computer.
ATA Device Properties
Model ID MDT MD200EB-11CSF0
Serial Number MDT-PMAAV2898313
Revision 04.01B04
Parameters 38792 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 600 bytes per sector
LBA Sectors 39102336
Buffer 2 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead)
Multiple Sectors 16
ECC Bytes 40
Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Unformatted Capacity 22375 MB
ATA Device Features
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported
Power Management Supported
Advanced Power Management Not Supported
Write Cache Supported
Host Protected Area Supported
Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
48-bit LBA Not Supported
Device Configuration Overlay Not Supported
Disk 0
Type: Uknown
Status: Unreadable
Partition Style: Not applicable
Capactiy: 0MB
I have a problem with my primary IDE channel on my mobo right now.Here are my symptoms.
1-some times my BIOS does not detect my hard drive
2-sometimes while my BIOS is detecting my hard drive it freezes and displays a bunch of weird characters
3-sometimes the computer crashes
I know this is the problem with mine as the manufacturer has said so and the board will be RMA'd in the next week.
Maybe you have the same problem.There is no way you have gone threw 6 hard drives unless you are either kicking the shit outta your computer or you "REALLY" have no clue what you are doing when working on your computer.
/me thinks the culprit is this:
http://www.pcchipsusa.com/images/m935almu.gif
dodgy mobo
So you have an disk with a bad partition table - is this what you call dead?Quote:
Originally posted by The Kiler@14 October 2003 - 02:54
This is the information on the "dead" hard drive. This HDD is on another computer.
ATA Device Properties
Model ID MDT MD200EB-11CSF0
Serial Number MDT-PMAAV2898313
Revision 04.01B04
Parameters 38792 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 600 bytes per sector
LBA Sectors 39102336
Buffer 2 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead)
Multiple Sectors 16
ECC Bytes 40
Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Unformatted Capacity 22375 MB
ATA Device Features
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported
Power Management Supported
Advanced Power Management Not Supported
Write Cache Supported
Host Protected Area Supported
Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
48-bit LBA Not Supported
Device Configuration Overlay Not Supported
Disk 0
Type: Uknown
Status: Unreadable
Partition Style: Not applicable
Capactiy: 0MB
download discwizard 2003 from seagate, its free and will diagnose,re-format, and set up all drives. I repair pcs and this piece of software has accessed so called "dead" hardrives for me on a few occasions. it will even access an ntfs drive put in a fat32(win98 etc) based pc when put in as a slave. you have the option of making floppys to access in dos if req. it wont fix actual "dead" drives but may help you format and get the drive to be seen. also a note on ya mobo> have you installed a separate graphics card or sound card? if so you must disable the onboard built in features otherwise you will get conflicts. update ya bios with the latest version and maybe change ya battery if it quite an old board. do you have any beeps when you boot ie more than 1!? also try setting the mobo's settings to failsafe when installing xp and leave out things like modems and tv cards til it has setup and install them afterwards as these can give you blue screens in setup. hope this helps ;)
So you have an disk with a bad partition table - is this what you call dead? [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by lynx+14 October 2003 - 06:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 14 October 2003 - 06:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-The Kiler@14 October 2003 - 02:54
This is the information on the "dead" hard drive. This HDD is on another computer.
ATA Device Properties
Model ID MDT MD200EB-11CSF0
Serial Number MDT-PMAAV2898313
Revision 04.01B04
Parameters 38792 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 600 bytes per sector
LBA Sectors 39102336
Buffer 2 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead)
Multiple Sectors 16
ECC Bytes 40
Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Unformatted Capacity 22375 MB
ATA Device Features
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported
Power Management Supported
Advanced Power Management Not Supported
Write Cache Supported
Host Protected Area Supported
Power-Up In Standby Not Supported
Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
48-bit LBA Not Supported
Device Configuration Overlay Not Supported
Disk 0
Type: Uknown
Status: Unreadable
Partition Style: Not applicable
Capactiy: 0MB
Partition Magic called it bad. :P
I'll try. I've been looking for HDD diagnostics for quite a while now.Quote:
Originally posted by boyzeee@14 October 2003 - 08:40
download discwizard 2003 from seagate, its free and will diagnose,re-format, and set up all drives. I repair pcs and this piece of software has accessed so called "dead" hardrives for me on a few occasions. it will even access an ntfs drive put in a fat32(win98 etc) based pc when put in as a slave. you have the option of making floppys to access in dos if req. it wont fix actual "dead" drives but may help you format and get the drive to be seen. also a note on ya mobo> have you installed a separate graphics card or sound card? if so you must disable the onboard built in features otherwise you will get conflicts. update ya bios with the latest version and maybe change ya battery if it quite an old board. do you have any beeps when you boot ie more than 1!? also try setting the mobo's settings to failsafe when installing xp and leave out things like modems and tv cards til it has setup and install them afterwards as these can give you blue screens in setup. hope this helps ;)
maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.
What page is that, JB 27?Quote:
Originally posted by johnboy27@14 October 2003 - 07:35
maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Hey the killer, so you didn't get rid of the green dwarfs ? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I told you, buy a pitbul and starve him. ;)
@Kiler, if you PM me with your email address, I will send you a little utility which will clear bad partition tables. It restores the first 128 sectors to factory state, which is all you need. You will need a Win98 type boot disk to run it.
If you are coming up with these problems every time you try to install XP, could I suggest you may have a faulty XP disk. It is not unknown for dodgy sources to infect these disks, or simply have bad areas.
Xp cd is perfect. I installed the copy on all my other computers. BTW, remember I tried ME, and XP home. I will PM you my email. Get back to me ASAP.Quote:
Originally posted by lynx@14 October 2003 - 12:38
@Kiler, if you PM me with your email address, I will send you a little utility which will clear bad partition tables. It restores the first 128 sectors to factory state, which is all you need. You will need a Win98 type boot disk to run it.
If you are coming up with these problems every time you try to install XP, could I suggest you may have a faulty XP disk. It is not unknown for dodgy sources to infect these disks, or simply have bad areas.
What page is that, JB 27? [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by clocker+14 October 2003 - 16:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 14 October 2003 - 16:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-johnboy27@14 October 2003 - 07:35
maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.
Oops.LOL I guess there is not much point in me putting it in now as Lynx is gonna help him out.
Next time I'll have to remember to paste.LOL
Oops.LOL I guess there is not much point in me putting it in now as Lynx is gonna help him out.Quote:
Originally posted by johnboy27+15 October 2003 - 00:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (johnboy27 @ 15 October 2003 - 00:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@14 October 2003 - 16:03
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@14 October 2003 - 07:35
maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.
What page is that, JB 27?
Next time I'll have to remember to paste.LOL [/b][/quote]
The utility don't work...
Has SMART ever reported an error messages at start up? If so, do you remember any of the message specifics?Quote:
ATA Device Features
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported
Format those dead Maxtor drives; I would recommend the low level format utility from Maxtor's website, something like 40 kb. It might work with Western Digital drives, never tried it. Maxtor also provides a diagnostic utility. If the low level utility can't complete the wipe, then I don't know what to tell you, but it does need to format the entire drive. There is an existing debug script to clear hd partition tables. I guess that's only good for DOS-windows though, probably not what you need. There is definetly a solution to your problems. If all else fails.........then try to get the drives back.Quote:
get a new mobo and stuff.. somethins zapp"in them
I need to get those hard drives fixed. Give me good software. Better be one i can find ;)Quote:
Originally posted by safrole@15 October 2003 - 19:06
Has SMART ever reported an error messages at start up? If so, do you remember any of the message specifics?Quote:
ATA Device Features
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported
Format those dead Maxtor drives; I would recommend the low level format utility from Maxtor's website, something like 40 kb. It might work with Western Digital drives, never tried it. Maxtor also provides a diagnostic utility. If the low level utility can't complete the wipe, then I don't know what to tell you, but it does need to format the entire drive. There is an existing debug script to clear hd partition tables. I guess that's only good for DOS-windows though, probably not what you need. There is definetly a solution to your problems. If all else fails.........then try to get the drives back.Quote:
get a new mobo and stuff.. somethins zapp"in them
Quote:
The Kiler Posted on 15 October 2003 - 22:35
.....Give me good software. Better be one i can find ;)
Are you threatening people who are volunteering their help? That's nuts.
I'm not threating. I'm just saying 6 hard drives is not good.Quote:
Originally posted by zapjb@15 October 2003 - 22:46
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The Kiler Posted on 15 October 2003 - 22:35
.....Give me good software. Better be one i can find ;)
Are you threatening people who are volunteering their help? That's nuts.
Kiler, I went back and read your first post, then jumped to the post with more specifics listed. When the problem originated, SMART would have reported any hd errors. If there was no SMART message, then it's safe to say the problem is somewhere on your motherboard or video card; firmware. The bios is confusing the os, cmos is conflicting the hd, video cmos is contradicting bios settings, etc. There's no way for me or anybody at this forum to know for sure what's going on with it.
The software I suggested can be found from the hd oem websites. LLF utility for a Maxtor drive, Maxtor's website. I think Western Digital has their own utilities but I'm not sure because I have Quantum(Maxtor utilites work for certain Quantums). I definitely wouldn't spend any more money on hd's, I would be finding deals on a motherboard. I would also try another os besides xp or me-2000, or different copies of the same os's. I have 98, linux, and freebsd. They all have one thing in common, operating systems designed to process fundamental tasks without any point-click gui.
Lot's of variables, lot's of choices, so good luck with it.
hi, just wanna say that i have been having these kind of problems too. With an error message like the one you had when i got my pc started again. heres my post: http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=74598Quote:
Originally posted by The Kiler@11 October 2003 - 04:18
Techinical Information:
** Stop: 0X0000008E (0X0000005, 0XF9E41COB, OXF9A46800, 0X000000)
** setupdd.sys - Address F9E41C0B base at F9E19000. Datestamp 3b7d8507
doesnt really mean anything but i can say that i also have a sis640 card and western digital hhd. my post isnt the first prob ive run into with this comp which is comp related. just asking if this i just by chance
The utility don't work... [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by The Kiler+15 October 2003 - 22:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (The Kiler @ 15 October 2003 - 22:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by johnboy27@15 October 2003 - 00:43
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Originally posted by clocker@14 October 2003 - 16:03
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@14 October 2003 - 07:35
maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.
What page is that, JB 27?
Oops.LOL I guess there is not much point in me putting it in now as Lynx is gonna help him out.
Next time I'll have to remember to paste.LOL
Sure, I'm going to waste my time sending you a utility that doesn't work.
It works for me, it works for other people I've sent it to, but you can't figure out how to use it, so it doesn't work. Which do you think is faulty, the utility or you?
If that's your attitude, don't bother wasting our time any further.
Sure, I'm going to waste my time sending you a utility that doesn't work.Quote:
Originally posted by lynx+17 October 2003 - 07:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 17 October 2003 - 07:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by The Kiler@15 October 2003 - 22:18
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Originally posted by johnboy27@15 October 2003 - 00:43
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Originally posted by clocker@14 October 2003 - 16:03
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@14 October 2003 - 07:35
maybe you should go to this page and download HDD Health and install it on your new drive before you start playing any games or anything and keep a good eye on it.
What page is that, JB 27?
Oops.LOL I guess there is not much point in me putting it in now as Lynx is gonna help him out.
Next time I'll have to remember to paste.LOL
The utility don't work...
It works for me, it works for other people I've sent it to, but you can't figure out how to use it, so it doesn't work. Which do you think is faulty, the utility or you?
If that's your attitude, don't bother wasting our time any further. [/b][/quote]
Ok, I copied the program to my start-up disk and i boot from it.
It loads all the things and finally lets me type.
I type zap 1. and then y. It says Zap complete and I restart the computer and then nothing happens.
Well, if it is your primary master you should be typing "zap 0". Which is what I told you. But if it is your primary slave, and it is not giving you an error message, then your drive is not dead, and the utility is working.
It merely sets it back to factory default state. You can then start partitioning and formatting it.
Did you expect it would have somehow installed XP in 2 seconds?
I will try to install windows xp on it.Quote:
Originally posted by lynx@17 October 2003 - 10:49
Well, if it is your primary master you should be typing "zap 0". Which is what I told you. But if it is your primary slave, and it is not giving you an error message, then your drive is not dead, and the utility is working.
It merely sets it back to factory default state. You can then start partitioning and formatting it.
Did you expect it would have somehow installed XP in 2 seconds?