On the subject of books, try "Have Spaceship Will Travel", by Robert Heinlein.
:)
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On the subject of books, try "Have Spaceship Will Travel", by Robert Heinlein.
:)
Don't need to. I've got my towel.
It wasn't cynicism J2, it was the continued misuse of the word "treason," and the overuse of the word "McCarthyism." The 8 Mile reference just pushed it over. ;)
Was a pretty good program on Richard I. Not really the hero he's made out to be. But he's loved for it, anyway.
:ninja:
My recommendations are not fiction/sci-fi, Billy. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@22 October 2003 - 09:22
On the subject of books, try "Have Spaceship Will Travel", by Robert Heinlein.
:)
Do you find me overly serious? :huh:
You would be wrong about that, too. :D
By golly-
Live, and in "cyber-person"!
Good Morning, MN! :)
Just a little levity, j2, must have been that last joint, or too much caffeine in the coffee milk shake, perhaps. I shall try to stay straight next time I reply to you.Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@22 October 2003 - 23:38
My recommendations are not fiction/sci-fi, Billy. :)
Do you find me overly serious? :huh:
You would be wrong about that, too. :D
:)
Just a little levity, j2, must have been that last joint, or too much caffeine in the coffee milk shake, perhaps. I shall try to stay straight next time I reply to you.Quote:
Originally posted by Billy_Dean+22 October 2003 - 09:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Billy_Dean @ 22 October 2003 - 09:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@22 October 2003 - 23:38
My recommendations are not fiction/sci-fi, Billy. :)
Do you find me overly serious? :huh:
You would be wrong about that, too. :D
:)[/b][/quote]
Hmmmmm.....
I was going for levity, too....... :huh:
Are we having "wavelength" problems again, Billy? :P
Have spacesuite will travelQuote:
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@22 October 2003 - 14:22
On the subject of books, try "Have Spaceship Will Travel", by Robert Heinlein.
:)
:P
Heinlein, i have to admit, is one of the heros i used to have when i was younger.
spacesuite?Quote:
Originally posted by Rat Faced@23 October 2003 - 02:07
Have spacesuite will travel.
Would that be the living quarters on the spaceship then? ;)
:)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't remember much about the book, or any book I've read actually, but I do remember it made me laugh out loud.
Stranger in a Strange Land is still, in my opinion, one of the best works of fiction ever.
:)
spacesuite?Quote:
Originally posted by Billy_Dean+22 October 2003 - 12:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Billy_Dean @ 22 October 2003 - 12:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Rat Faced@23 October 2003 - 02:07
Have spacesuite will travel.
Would that be the living quarters on the spaceship then? ;)
:) [/b][/quote]
Wavelength problems abound, apparently.
Greetings, Rat- :)
Fox news is soooo incredibly biased and I hate some of the people like that one guy that says nothing but SHUT UP every 5 seconds hah..
Seriously though, people complain about fox being so biased but no one ever mentions al jazeera (sp?) which from what I can tell is completely objective reportibng the way its meant to be...
lmfao
Actually, I was heading to bed when that posted J2. ;) I'm vampiric.
I don't think many people mention Al-Jazeera because this thread, in particular, was about FOX News, which is widely consumable by the American public, whereas Al-Jazeera is not. Clips on either FOX News or CNN don't count.
:ninja:
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
Likewise I'm the only active conservative.
I'm an entity unto myself.
That's pretty cool.
Uniqueness.
I can live with it. :)
i haven't seen bravery like that in a long time :oQuote:
Originally posted by j2k4@23 October 2003 - 04:27
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
I've seen FOX News once or twice. It was pretty funny. ;) The "big story" they had was which states you're allowed to marry your immediate cousins in.
:ninja:
I think I might just be looking a bit more critically at news in general than the rest of you (pardon my saying so).
I watch FoxNews as it is the ONLY network which: (1) Presents ANY conservative content, AND/OR (2) Presents it without the seemingly requisite apology or smirking tone.
I have problems with FoxNews, too, but my gripes are relative to presentational issues, which I feel, ironically, the major networks (CBS, ABC, NBC) still do very well-suffice it to say, I could do without all the graphics and SHAZZAM! bullshit.
It's just that the others are, well, shallow and insipid, and worst of all, INCOMPLETE!
;)
Here you go, a truly conservative news channel.
Truly Conservative .Com.
:)
not true - i watch fox news as well! they r the only ones who don't have a COMPLETE liberal view 4 everthing news related.Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@23 October 2003 - 04:27
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
O'Reily is refreshing compared 2 the other arses out there.
not true - i watch fox news as well! they r the only ones who don't have a COMPLETE liberal view 4 everthing news related.Quote:
Originally posted by kurtsl0an+23 October 2003 - 00:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 23 October 2003 - 00:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@23 October 2003 - 04:27
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
O'Reily is refreshing compared 2 the other arses out there. [/b][/quote]
Well-
How about that?
I'm shocked.
Welcome, sir. ;)
Boy, I guess so, huh? :huh:Quote:
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@23 October 2003 - 00:37
Here you go, a truly conservative news channel.
Truly Conservative .Com.
:)
Off your "favorites", Billy? ;)
Don't flatter yourself.Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@23 October 2003 - 05:29
I think I might just be looking a bit more critically at news in general than the rest of you (pardon my saying so).
Don't flatter yourself. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by MediaSlayer+23 October 2003 - 01:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MediaSlayer @ 23 October 2003 - 01:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@23 October 2003 - 05:29
I think I might just be looking a bit more critically at news in general than the rest of you (pardon my saying so).
Eric Alterman?
You have got to be kidding.
Eric Alterman?Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4+23 October 2003 - 01:17--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 23 October 2003 - 01:17)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by MediaSlayer@23 October 2003 - 01:05
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@23 October 2003 - 05:29
I think I might just be looking a bit more critically at news in general than the rest of you (pardon my saying so).
Don't flatter yourself.
You have got to be kidding. [/b][/quote]
Try Bernard Goldberg, instead-it won't leave that shitty liberal taste in your mouth, even though he's liberal, too.
Judging by your reaction, I think my work here is done. :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)
Oh, you are such a rascal!Quote:
Originally posted by MediaSlayer@23 October 2003 - 01:29
Judging by your reaction, I think my work here is done. :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)
Get out of here, you scamp! :)
tell your bird to stop staring at me or i'm gonna pm a mod!!!#@$%%4 :P
My bird isn't.. oh, him.Quote:
Originally posted by MediaSlayer@23 October 2003 - 01:41
tell your bird to stop staring at me or i'm gonna pm a mod!!!#@$%%4 :P
Just ignore him. He's trained-no preying while I'm in the forum.
Well-Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4+22 October 2003 - 22:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 22 October 2003 - 22:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by kurtsl0an@23 October 2003 - 00:37
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@23 October 2003 - 04:27
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
not true - i watch fox news as well! they r the only ones who don't have a COMPLETE liberal view 4 everthing news related.
O'Reily is refreshing compared 2 the other arses out there.
How about that?
I'm shocked.
Welcome, sir. ;) [/b][/quote]
How touching.
Godzilla discovers a mate.
How touching.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker+23 October 2003 - 01:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 23 October 2003 - 01:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@22 October 2003 - 22:58
Quote:
Originally posted by kurtsl0an@23 October 2003 - 00:37
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Quote:
@23 October 2003 - 04:27
I realize full well I'm the only board member who watches FoxNews.
not true - i watch fox news as well! they r the only ones who don't have a COMPLETE liberal view 4 everthing news related.
O'Reily is refreshing compared 2 the other arses out there.
Well-
How about that?
I'm shocked.
Welcome, sir. ;)
Godzilla discovers a mate.[/b][/quote]
Hey, Buddy!
What's with the -zilla suffix? :huh:
Hey, really-I have been the token conservative WAAAAY too long.
a few weeks ago, i was flipping around between CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News, and they all covered the same particular story within a few minutes of each other. it was about Israel making an anti-fundamentalist raid and killing some Palestinians. on CNN and MSNBC, the anchors reported that the Israeli soldiers had killed "suspected terrorists." on Fox News, they simply reported that the dead Palestinians were terrorists.
i don't really like the either/or proposition constantly presented by the media, in general... but Fox News bases its reporting on a presumption of what constitutes truth and reality that i just don't agree with. compared to my own perceptions, Fox News' version of reality seems like a funhouse mirror to me. much of it seems only slightly more credible to me than the "news" segments on the 700 Club.
rather than say that the people at Fox News are liars, i'll just say that the version of reality that they present does not concur with my own.
Good point.Quote:
Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@23 October 2003 - 02:09
a few weeks ago, i was flipping around between CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News, and they all covered the same particular story within a few minutes of each other. it was about Israel making an anti-fundamentalist raid and killing some Palestinians. on CNN and MSNBC, the anchors reported that the Israeli soldiers had killed "suspected terrorists." on Fox News, they simply reported that the dead Palestinians were terrorists.
i don't really like the either/or proposition constantly presented by the media, in general... but Fox News bases its reporting on a presumption of what constitutes truth and reality that i just don't agree with. compared to my own perceptions, Fox News' version of reality seems like a funhouse mirror to me.
I find ALL reportage, as a general rule, abominable; a fact-sorting mission, to be sure.
I much prefer the issue-oriented programming-one I find quite interesting is "Media Watch", which is hosted by Eric Burns on Friday eves, on FoxNews.
Two libs and two conservatives and Burns.
Not a bad show at all.
basically i think that some people will find a news source that concurs with their own assumptions, other people will find another, and so on... and unfortunately everybody else just has to settle for whatever's closest to their idea of the truth.
i do enjoy debate shows sometimes, depending on who's on, and whether they can get a good argument rolling.
I'm reminded here of a comment made long ago, about the favourite newspaper of the owner of Fox, Rupert (the Bear) Murdoch. That paper is The Sun.
[I quote]
The British Press
The Financial Times is read by the people who own the country;
The Times is read by the people who run the country;
The Telegraph is read by the people who think they run the country;
The Guardian is read by people who think they should run the country;
The Independent is read by people who don't know who runs the country but think it should be someone else;
The Morning Star is read by people who think the country should be run by Russia;
The Express is read by people who think the country should be run like it was in the good old days of the empire;
The Sun is read by people who don't give a fuck who runs the country, as long as she has big tits...
:)
:lol: Seen that somewhere. :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@23 October 2003 - 02:35
I'm reminded here of a comment made long ago, about the favourite newspaper of the owner of Fox, Rupert (the Bear) Murdoch. That paper is The Sun.
[I quote]
The British Press
The Financial Times is read by the people who own the country;
The Times is read by the people who run the country;
The Telegraph is read by the people who think they run the country;
The Guardian is read by people who think they should run the country;
The Independent is read by people who don't know who runs the country but think it should be someone else;
The Morning Star is read by people who think the country should be run by Russia;
The Express is read by people who think the country should be run like it was in the good old days of the empire;
The Sun is read by people who don't give a fuck who runs the country, as long as she has big tits...
:)
Here, be my guest, have a look of the most read newspaper in the UK.Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@23 October 2003 - 16:40
:lol: Seen that somewhere. :lol:
The Sun
:)
German newspapers can be pretty bad on using the sex-to-sell. ;)
:ninja: