A disclaimer

@artemis keep taking your crazy pills, i'm sure your brain will receive some great ideas
I'll end here as this has nothing to do with Idol's thread. Srry for the off.

My view point of the subject:

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Originally Posted by Tokeman

I'm on the fence about this. I do agree that these reviews can lead to the over hyping of some trackers, but FST was built on freedom to share information about all types of filesharing and sites. To censor information because a site wants you to, why not go all the way and get rid of the trading seciton as well? Trackers dont want that here, and it also leads to many 'sour grapes' as well, dont you think?

Take the good with the bad IMO, leave things as they are.

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Originally Posted by Tokeman

I was simply pointing out that if you start censoring, where do you draw the line? If you start bending to trackers wishes where do you draw that line?
Yes, it was an absurd suggestion, and was meant to be taken as sarcasm, but I guess you missed that...

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And for those who haven't noticed, the WTAW was "merged" with the WTO, leaving the infamous rarity level as just one more option users will consider when looking for a site to join.
Hopefully, if you are new to bt, you will probably go to specific trackers with high "contents" ranking. That's what the logic tells us.
In the mid long term it may produce results. If not, at least there was an attempt to skew members to choose which places they would consider useful to join based on those who do their best to excel in contents, and not rarity.
Having a WTO thread with 4 or 5 trackers there wouldn't probably help those stay off the radar either, would it? The more present there, the more diluted seeking for some sought after trackers will be. There's no point hiding stuff you can find with any google search. What's the point? Please the staff ? Save our asses? There's nothing secret enough on bt.

Leading to ca_aok's:

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Originally Posted by ca_aok

But then people would realize that the best trackers are actually places like Torrents.ru and the traders would go out of business :o

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OK the sarcasm is starting to bore me, but cinephilia if you want people to take you seriously then making up words doesn't help......

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Originally Posted by cinephilia

.....ratiocinating/caviling

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If either of these is in the dictionary please point them out.

Do you really feel it is necessary to stoop down to nitpicking on other peoples grammar in order to counteract their arguments? Is that what people on mature and exclusive forums do? :unsure:

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Originally Posted by Cabalo

My view point of the subject:

Having a WTO thread with 4 or 5 trackers there wouldn't probably help those stay off the radar either, would it? The more present there, the more diluted seeking for some sought after trackers will be. There's no point hiding stuff you can find with any google search. What's the point? Please the staff ? Save our asses? There's nothing secret enough on bt.

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Like I said personal ethos.If someone politely requests that I don't specifically do something and it doesn't hurt anyone not to do it then personally I would think myself a total jerk if I didn't comply .

Maybe I'm not looking at the bigger picture, maybe I'm a naive idiot but that's how I chose to live my life or rather the minuscule the part of my life that I have any control over.

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

Idol rocks BTW.

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Literally . After a day of dealing with the average member here I sit in a dark corner and rock back and forth .

@hagckz0r I assure you I am the last person that you ever need to apologize to for being off topic.:whistling

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Originally Posted by Artemis

OK the sarcasm is starting to bore me, but cinephilia if you want people to take you seriously then making up words doesn't help......

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Originally Posted by cinephilia

.....ratiocinating/caviling

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If either of these is in the dictionary please point them out.

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All words are made up ,the only difference that some have been in use longer than others. Undercomprehend.?

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Like I said personal ethos.If someone politely requests that I don't specifically do something and it doesn't hurt anyone not to do it then personally I would think myself a total jerk if I didn't comply .

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Perhaps policies regarding the posting of reviews are out of our control, but I believe things like that are what help fuel view counts :unsure:. And if that's the case, there's not much we can do about it unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Rart

Do you really feel it is necessary to stoop down to nitpicking on other peoples grammar in order to counteract their arguments? Is that what people on mature and exclusive forums do? :unsure:

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Rart, that isn't grammar, those are made up words, I tried to say it as pleasantly as humanly possible, and in no way did I use it to couneract his argument ? And where did the mature and exclusive forums come from ? Is that you showing your own prejudices ?
Simply put, made up words detract from the overall statement.

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Originally Posted by Rart

Perhaps policies regarding the posting of reviews are out of our control, but I believe things like that are what help fuel view counts :unsure:. And if that's the case, there's not much we can do about it unfortunately.

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I think your right Maximus.

So lets say this site did take the polices of politely taking requests from trackers not to have reviews of their site here. What if all the decent trackers asked politely to take their reviews off what would happen then? Would u take them off?

End of the day lets face it the majority of the visitors of this site just come to troll for invites and use the reviews and wtaw thread to see what they want to get, and without these things the visitors of this site would fall pretty much altogether.

So end of the day i couldnt see management accepting this, making this discussion pretty much redundant.

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Originally Posted by Villalltheway

So end of the day i couldnt see management accepting this, making this discussion pretty much redundant.

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No that would be irrelevant, , purportless or useless
Redundant would be me saying that your post sucks goat wiener.

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Like I said personal ethos.If someone politely requests that I don't specifically do something and it doesn't hurt anyone not to do it then personally I would think myself a total jerk if I didn't comply .

Maybe I'm not looking at the bigger picture, maybe I'm a naive idiot but that's how I chose to live my life or rather the minuscule the part of my life that I have any control over.

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But... you could be an e-badass and an e-rebel by disobeying those simple requests! And at the end of the day, isn't that what we're all going for here? :whistling

Chicks do dig rebels.

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

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Originally Posted by Villalltheway

So end of the day i couldnt see management accepting this, making this discussion pretty much redundant.

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No that would be irrelevant, , purportless or useless
Redundant would be me saying that your post sucks goat wiener.

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And I'm the evil grammar wielding arch fiend ? :shutup:

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

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Originally Posted by Villalltheway

So end of the day i couldnt see management accepting this, making this discussion pretty much redundant.

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No that would be irrelevant, , purportless or useless
Redundant would be me saying that your post sucks goat wiener.

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Alright alright chill out no need to get personal. But lets face it you know its true and everyone else knows it true that the vast majority of people come here looking for invites, and use the reviews and wtaw to see what they want.

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

The only thing that I see coming out of it is a lot of sour grapes and wasted time.Not something I think this ,or any , site needs to purposely propagate.

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yet it remains i wonder why?

sites are secret to get members with hype staff dont want reviews cuz they dont want every1 to see how terrible their site is lmfao
these nerds want ppl to join their joke sites wit no clue and say some shit like we are a communtiy to trick ppl into staying
cn u can get all the shit there on pub torrents with faster speeds but look at the frontpg says welcome to the family lmfao whenever u hear some1 say family and ur not real family u kno ur being manipulated lol
skittles has old shit no1 wants but they try to addict u with activity points lol
revolt has only 2 torrents wat the fk lmfao
nobody would kno this shit without reviews u dick riders can keep talkin its common courtesy to not have a trade section too lol

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Originally Posted by Artemis

OK the sarcasm is starting to bore me, but cinephilia if you want people to take you seriously then making up words doesn't help......

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Originally Posted by cinephilia

.....ratiocinating/caviling

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If either of these is in the dictionary please point them out.

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there was absolutely no sarcasm intended.
and for the record, those words are not made up, just a bit uncommon i guess.

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ratiocinate
ra·ti·oc·i·nate (rsh-s-nt)
intr.v. ra·ti·oc·i·nat·ed, ra·ti·oc·i·nat·ing, ra·ti·oc·i·nates

To reason methodically and logically.

[Latin raticinr, raticint-, from rati, calculation; see ratio.]

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more info:
http://education.yahoo.com/reference...ry/ratiocinate

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cavil
cav·il (kvl)

v. cav·iled also cav·illed, cav·il·ing also cav·il·ling, cav·ils also cav·ils
v.intr.
To find fault unnecessarily; raise trivial objections. See Synonyms at quibble.
v.tr.
To quibble about; detect petty flaws in.
n.
A carping or trivial objection.

[French caviller, from Old French, from Latin cavillr, to jeer, from cavilla, a jeering.]

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more info:
http://www.alphadictionary.com/goodword/word/cavil

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Originally Posted by Ewwwyourface

revolt has only 2 torrents wat the fk lmfao

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While certainly not endorsing anything Ewwwyourface says something about the way this is said just makes me crack up :lol:

Thanks for that.

And to Artemis... ouch. Perhaps you really should've checked before saying that :pinch:

While I agree that the cons of posting a review of such a site outweigh the cons and would thus not do so myself I have always been massively annoyed by censorship of any kind so I would never advocate abstinence either. Just calculate how much you want to post whatever you post, how detrimental it could be to you and others, and this way the post will at least be educated. To some extent. I think I'm kinda rambling. Whatever, just my two cents.

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Originally Posted by puckface

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Originally Posted by Artemis

Then the reverse is surely true, if you see all sites as the same, why did you trade for them, or did they once have a value to you but no longer ?
I don't mean this question with any sort of malice truly, it just seems to me that your position now, and your former position as a trader are diametrically opposed ?

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........Firstly, who said my position of a trader was former or current?

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Originally Posted by Artemis

You have several times, in your own posts.

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I think you misunderstood my question. I dont think I have ever said that I was done with trading, if I did the please excuse me. But my point was is that I never mentioned either way

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Originally Posted by puckface

Having a "value" as you put it is merely a measure of how difficult it is to enter a certain tracker

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Originally Posted by Artemis

This is not my value system, this is the value system placed on trackers by those who wish to enter them based on their 'rarity'.

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Mine either, just the one in wtaw.. I dont give a shit about that either

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Originally Posted by puckface

Lots of people break tracker rules everyday here, who am I to say what is right and wrong, all Im saying is that we do it equally.

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Originally Posted by Artemis

So if I understand you correctly we should go for the lowest common denominator, i.e. not respect any tracker wishes at all, the url, internal screens, and all other relevant information should be public ? Doesn't really make them much of a private tracker then does it? Or should every tracker get rid of this silly invite system and just open registrations already ?

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No..... I said equality. Equal, good or bad.. all or nothing, everyone the same, no one special. Get the point?

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Originally Posted by DonkeyPacker

Use common sense and weigh opportunity costs before making a review

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I think you basically meant this, but wrote it out with more words?

Well, never being one to runaway and hide if I am wrong........ I stand corrected cinephilia, you must be inebriated by the locquaciousness of your own vituperation :naughty:

that said, i didn't use 'ratiocinate' and 'cavil' to show off, i just couldn't find better words to express my though - both words have the pejorative connotation i was looking for.

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Originally Posted by Villalltheway

Alright alright chill out no need to get personal.

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It was a joke I thought that was obvious.
If I was really upset I wouldn't use the words donkey wiener I'd use something like ratiocinating or caviling as in " Ewwwyourface there is no point in trying to ratiocinate with you or cavil about your stupidity so I will instead put it succinctly . Idiot .

OK you win idol, that made my head hurt try to decipher your rather convoluted sentence structure. You do know that your colon is going to leap up and strangle you as a mercy to mankind one day don't you ? :blink:

Shouldn't that be s semi-colon?

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Like I said personal ethos.If someone politely requests that I don't specifically do something and it doesn't hurt anyone not to do it then personally I would think myself a total jerk if I didn't comply .

Maybe I'm not looking at the bigger picture, maybe I'm a naive idiot but that's how I chose to live my life or rather the minuscule the part of my life that I have any control over.

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Well, you already knew the problems I faced when I removed someone's review, and the double standard it could create. I know I won't move a straw, and graciously decline to comply with such requests.
And this is nothing related with "do what you are told to".
It's more about not creating further problems to this forum and all those who have staff functions, by creating double standards. I understood that completely when that issue I raised before, happened.

It's a noble attitude of yours, but you missed a part of the whole picture, and the problems you can create to those who are together with you in the same boat.

Well if a tracker wants to be under the radar and how ever worthless it maybe,I say so be it.Who the fuck cares? yea ... level seekers do ... so at the end of the day those type of trackers are for level seekers.
As long as content oriented Trackers dont start bullshit all around I say leave the l33t trackers to l33ts.After all if a tracker is started with the intention of sharing files they will be looking for torrenters as well.
not 1 or 2 members sharing files which is worst than available in TPB

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Originally Posted by Idoleyes787

It was a joke I thought that was obvious.
If I was really upset I wouldn't use the words donkey wiener I'd use something like ratiocinating or caviling as in " Ewwwyourface there is no point in trying to ratiocinate with you or cavil about your stupidity so I will instead put it succinctly . Idiot .

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EPIC

BT is a culture and these little things are part of this culture.I've never understood why some people worship animals but they are just but practicing their norms and the best thing to do is to show respect as much as I don't understand.

There will always be traders,chasers,levels,l3375,n00bs,reviews etc.If people can't practice this culture here then they'll just find another place to do it.