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Bottom line: CN needs more members.
Exacto! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Polarbear
Was expecting this somewhere as I caught up on this thread....but page 5... :P
Oh well, seems like unless you have a very loyal user group (with credit cards in hand hahaha), you need more members. :/
Donations are at 70%. This has nothing to do with needing more members and their money. But I understand how small minded haters are quick to point to this. Especially after the last announcement, as well. Understandable. Do we want more members? Yes. But this thread was started more to inform people about what the site was really about as opposed to the bullshit stories going around. Nobody asked me to do this thread. I only asked if I could do this thread.
I expected all the hating. But I can handle it. Is there some sort of hate war going on between FST and CN? Some have said so, but many many times, including right now, I have defended FST and the decent people here...Therefore, I say no to the hate war. There are people at CN that hate FST and there are those at FST that hate CN. But the same can be said between most sites and FST. Because I am in the minority I choose to post about CN and what it is about. Nobody has done the choosing of me or for me.
My response to TSOL, TrueSounds, or whatever the fook you want to call yourself. I know very little about you except for any and all interaction here at this site. Regardless, of what you think of me, in a strange way I can't but help like or at least somewhat respect you. Whatever happened between you and CN must have been some bad shit...I say this since you seem to have strong feelings about the whole situation. Oh yeah, in regards to your statement about anon-sb and me. Simple curiosity is all. Nothing more or less.
For most others without issuing a long list of names, I could give a rats ass about you, who you think you are, what you pretend to be, etc. You might fool some with your pretend coolness but I am smarter than most and can read between the lines. I know you're not cool in "real life" and therefore suck at being cool online.
To clear another thing up. Cabalo. He is in my friends list. Whether I am in his or not I have no idea. I know all the bad shit that went down between him and CN but I still like the guy. I make mention of this because I have received PMs in regards to things said between him and I on this site. I liked him better before he was a mod here but never-the-less he is still good in my book. If you are genuine and have strong beliefs I can respect that whether I agree or not. As I think Idol said...We can all be dicks at times.
Yes, I know I have opened myself up for more bashing...But I can manage. Bring it on bitches.
You seriously need a bad cop to tag along for this routine, bumrocks. You can't pull off both jobs on your own.
You do not know him and yet you make assumptions like those.Quote:
Originally Posted by bumrocks
Being cool in internet means you are also cool outside the net?Moreover "being cool" is relative.Quote:
Originally Posted by bumrocks
Smarter =/ Psychic.And a "smart guy" always needs to reassure himself that he is "smart" :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by bumrocks
P.S: Dont get me wrong,I aint one of those in CN hate bandwagon(Although some of it is BS).Couldnt agree with the above,thats all.
They would just fuck it up for me...Me, myself, and I are all on the same page.Quote:
Originally Posted by ringhunter
Fair enough. My opinions are just that...Mine. Doesn't mean they are right. Part of my statements are incorrect in that some just take this shit too seriously and aren't trying to be cool...They are just dumbasses without a life. But that is just me thinking outloud with a keyboard. I know to of your various strife's but I have no issue with you personally. I am just responding to your statements and not speaking of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
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Originally Posted by Polarbear
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Originally Posted by bumrocks
CN is a very nice site. I don't make use of it's unique features, but admire those who have spent a LOT of time designing and programming to make it what it is.
As for the staff, my interactions have been brief, but no one has ever given me the slightest indication of being an ass. Never.
I also noticed a number of members who recognized my name from there, and went out of their way to say, "hi" on other sites.
So, what do we have...?
1. A site that has been conceived and implemented to be fun and unique.
2. Staff who want to keep the site nice- or they wouldn't put so much effort into it in the first place.
3. A large number of truly friendly members who are nice even when it doesn't benefit "status" or post count.
CN is one of my favorite sites. I do end up grabbing quite a few movies from there, because they are not the same 0-day that most other sites get. And, even if there are only a few seeders, I have always gotten my files in a reasonable amount of time.
As for the comparison with CN and PtP, not much of a contest since the pedo scandal. PtP is dying. I believe the site is hurting for members as I have been given 2 invites (no, don't ask) in the past week-ish. I am not active, not a PU, and don't know staff there. I have also never had invites I did not "buy" with my seeding activity. It was a nice site before the scandal. This example should remain fresh in the mind of other site staff- there are lines that should not be crossed.
Yeah, between receiving blackmail threats to 'expose me' (with my schools ip address and email :rolleyes:), having iKiller tell your members to spam threads on FST as a means of hiding a CN thread, iKiller himself coming on FST once in a blue moon to throw some spastic self indulgent fit, god knows what else I don't remember. It's not so much what happened to me directly, but a culmination of what I've witnessed since your sites inception that has shaped my feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by bumrocks
I don't think I've ever been outspoken negatively against any tracker besides yours. I'll always point out flaws I see, but I have never attempted a crusade against any of them because no other tracker worth mentioning has been run top down by such unsociable egomaniacs.
Yeah we filtered their url regardless of how inept they are at their relations with us. After all, we aren't complete scum over at FST.
cn ftw!
[QUOTE=X-Files;3483029]I hate to tell you but some scumbag reported you for bypassing filters.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueSounds
PtP's main attraction atleast for me is the perfectly arranged collections.That alone makes the tracker unique from others.The various features,bonus points and a sexy design(cineaste style sheet <3) makes the tracker one of the best Movie trackers in BT.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
As for the tracker dying or not,vast majority over there are for the content and dosent bother with the BT politics and stuff.Its only 11th of this month and donations are already 75% and a very good number of new torrents are uploaded everyday.I dont see it having bad times in anyway.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Idoleyes
I just try to be a little more polite in my responses than others around here. :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueSounds
I really appreciate the comedic value of this thread.
what the fuck, i should ban his ass. then unban him due to public opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
That is some bogus ass shit. Hopefully that staff member isn't there anymore. A perfect example of people taking shit too seriously. In this case from CN...These people are everywhere and not just here. I am not naive.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueSoundsYeah, between receiving blackmail threats to 'expose me' (with my schools ip address and email :rolleyes:)...Quote:
Originally Posted by bumrocks
I know it doesn't really mean shit, but my apologies.
FBI and JP are also really nice guys. Just thought I should throw that out there.
I don't wish them a downfall the way others may, but the front page of torrents seems more sparsely seeded than before the scandal. I had deleted my bookmark, and was ready to let my membership go, but found a hard-to-find title there. Honestly, I don't have the same good feelings about the site I did before. There is a taint there, and I don't know if it will ever go completely away...Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
Obscure movies wont get snatches.Many movies which get uploaded are not popular ones.Check the seeders/snatchers for relatively popular stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
The catch there being: you can get relatively popular stuff anywhere, why would you want to have another tracker for relatively popular stuff?Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
Having a tracker for packs is pretty damn stupid. Just thought I should throw that out there.
Also, it seems that every sucker in btt has turned into whores for pointless gimmicks. Have lost faith in people I once thought were cool dudes. I can't stand even half the people I 'trust' anymore. Maybe I'm just getting a bit old for all this and should fuck myself off to the lounge for good/. :dabs:
Pretty sure ratio is a pointless gimmick as well, IE: BT was never meant to be ratioed, it was private trackers, and yes home made ones, (no one has done a profesional one yet) that took it upon themselves to do ratio.
IMHO whatever anyone does, CN with what they do, us with SP, FTN with ratioless, etc, is moving on from the ratio system, which has to be a good thing, because Global Ratio by itself, sucks donkey balls.
but whatever floats your boat i suppose. dont like it leave, if you have already left why harp on about it.
How does this make sense, or am I reading it wrong? You are saying your own system sucks, then why do you do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
I'm harping on because there are still a few people stickin around who I can relate with. But I'll be gone soon enough dont you worry.
read it properly.
Global Ratio by itself sucks donkey balls.
We have SP so we DO NOT have global ratio by itself.
Stoi, completely agree with the ratio thing, standalone Global Ratio is bogus, any kid with enough money to burn on a good server can get 10 TB up, and it does not prove a thing.
Not really directed towards anybody/anywhere in general, but I always looked at CN as the place that has movies that most people would never have heard of/would ever see anywhere else, trackers or otherwise. Tis why I started encoding in the first place anyways :D
That is a pretty effective statement that seems to sum up much of the problems with the BT scene at the moment. Everybody seems to want to get to a tracker with 3 asterisks in its name, or WHARGARBL as the nickname of the site, since it is so rare/1337/great community. Do you know what pretty much has the best community known to BT? goem. Never hear it really in the WTAW threads, trader circles, or in most of the "What's the best site you are at?" threads. Just nice, friendly, talk about anything you want, laugh at the funniest shit forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueSounds
/rant
//CN is cool, forums are ok, IRC is awesome
///goem is still my hoem though :P
What happened TSOL? Just curious, if you don't mind me asking, feel free to shoot me a PM.
As for the bad blood between these two sites, I'm not certain that will ever be fixed. I've presented my argument to both parties and neither side seems willing to make the compromises and sacrifices necessary to path things up.
forget t.s.o.l. pming you, he should post it here and let the shit fly
you must be pretty new to the bt community sceneQuote:
Originally Posted by kingeater
Truesounds, what happened to your mod status? If that question bothers you showing it in public if you haven't already, PM me. If it just bothers you, no need to respond. I'm just a curious cunt.
Also, I agree with Truesounds. The reason is, if you like packs, go to any site and d/l packs from there. Pack only sites are kind of dumb. Any other reason would kind of take up the page lol.
This guy sure knows what he's talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueSounds
no shit left to fly, staffing a forum filled with ya'll was stressing me the fuck out. I need some distance between myself and all these obsessions and illusions most people have here myself included that are frankly a waste of goddamn time. I think iKiller said it best with his 'get a life' rant a few days back. Who am I to say what people should like. If two thousand people are into this kinda shit, then good on em.Quote:
Originally Posted by th0r
It's an opinion you don't have to necessarily agree with it( although I tend to as it's one of the few sites where people are still mostly there for the content and not the associated bullshit or their own egos) but no need to cast aspersions over it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by th0r
I'm more or less on the same page as TrueSounds in that I can't stand the majority of "active" bt members who seem more concerned about the superfluous shit and status than the actual stuff that they are actually downloading.
Btw what is the "best community " then? Wanks like HDBits that are so anal in their quest for "perfection" that they have taken any possible fun out of the process of watching movies or for that matter just being a simple member or places like FSC or iTS where "community" now seems to mean little more than spamming and adhering to the "I'm just the same as everyone else ethos " and God forbid don't be a non-conformist .
OK, I can see where I really shouldn't have used the word "best" there, in retrospect it seems more like a troll-baiting term than towards what I wanted to get at. Basically all I wanted to say was goem is the most laid back community I have ever been in. There's no crazy flamewars against other trackers/forums, no perception of being looked down upon if you are lacking in knowledge, and just an overall happy and friendly place to be a part of. It is the tracker I started with quite a while ago, and I still consider it my hoem after all of this time. Nothing meant to be a flame in means of saying it was the best, just pointing out what community really means is all.
For tl;dr, goem is a laid back and friendly place, shouldn't have used the word 'best', sorry for any flaming I caused. Sit back, have a nice cold one, and enjoy the day :D
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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
i apologize, i totally bit because i tend to troll when i get bored w/ the same types of conversations around here; i get where you're coming from when you think you've found the best community to be a part of. i'm a member of a handful of art/design forums where i find that the best community is something i can immerse myself into and also, at the end of the day, take something away from, rather than contributing the bare minimum by logging into a bt tracker account every few days, posting maybe once or twice in the forums and snagging a couple of small torrents, which is pretty much what my private bittorent tracker memberships have becomeQuote:
Originally Posted by kingeater
as for cn, i don't know any of the staff members there (maybe bumrocks) or how they run their tracker, and i'm not really following all of the poo that is being flung and whether it's true or not, but if they can create and maintain a small, tight-knit community that their members want to be a part of, more power to them; seeing as how i'm not a member of cn (i guess my invite application was denied), it's not really my business to be commenting on how they run their shit w/ any confidence, if i did at all, i don't remember
Do it for the lulz/morons, to be honest. You didn't do it to prove that you're right. You argued with people because you knew they were wrong. You could have been just as wrong, you could have been the pot calling the kettle black, but then so fucking what? The kettle is bloody black. My mantra is sticking to the truth, and if that means calling idiots idiots, then who's to say I shouldn't? Maybe you're at the point where you grew weary of the same old arguments, maybe I'm the immature brat that refuses to let it go; but you know what? I'm fine with it. I will continue calling idiots idiots, and I don't think you should stop because a couple of buffoons broke their sweat trying to reason with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueSounds
Which is what should be done, to be blunt. If a tracker truly believes that it's bleeding because there's not enough "8/10, awesome movie" posts on it, then the staff and the active members are all bloody idiots. I've finally given up on the whole community participation thing on trackers, most of my posts have been reduced to a trolling farce, and I've generally conceded defeat, considering it seems like anyone I talk to is just out of high school, and has just as much understanding over any concept that's not related to pretimes as a dung-beetle has towards Japanese.Quote:
Originally Posted by th0r
Being an active part of forums/irc/competitions is a waste of time, and although I do admit to being part of that crap before, I've found out I was just wearing myself down faster than I would otherwise.
No one should look for a community in a private tracker, and that's what I've finally found out, so you know what, if you feel like you're a terrible member by doing the bare minimum; take my advice. I'm someone who's done the opposite and is now willing to flip the switch and turn into you.
Don't worry th0r, you didn't have to apologize for anything, just wanted to get my point a little clearer than what I originally stated it. You basically said the same thing I was thinking in retrospect to a good community: you enjoy it, contribute what you can, and if you're lucky, get something back in return. The reason I brought it up was basically what the last sentence in your first paragraph states: most BT forums are just legislated spamfests now (see SeX as a recent example), and it does not feel "organic", if that makes any sense.
Also, on the original topic, never had any issues whatsoever with any of the staff there (or anywhere else for that matter). Had great times in IRC with them, have no issues personally with any of them, and really want to stay away from the other thread's topic as far as humanly possible :P
@ringhunter: you basically nailed my point on the head (sort of): if participating in IRC/Forums on a tracker is a chore/unenjoyable/useless and mandatory, it becomes a complete spamfest and a huge waste of time and energy. If you find a place and enjoy it, it does not feel like you wasted every second there on mindless shit. Or at least that's how I approach it.
LOL reading back I guess my last post sounds kinda defeatist. Well yeah, I'm not taking back a word I've recently said about this, I guess just need a break from being trying to be everyones personal savior in what has become a retarded game at best for alot of us. Feel free to take up my reigns, it would suck if a day came when noone was left but these freakin zombies and shit-puppets and self-aggrandizing narcissists.Quote:
Originally Posted by ringhunter
You should receive a reply from us, if you don't that means your app is yet to be reviewed. However if you said you are simply interested in checking our overal design that shouldn't get you in :bQuote:
Originally Posted by th0r
no worries if i don't get in; tbh, i probably wouldn't use the tracker as much as i should, according to your rules, anyways. by the way, i make a (good) living doing design, so naturally i'm curious when i visit brand new websites
So where do you get the not so popular movies?You read a good review or saw a trailer which piqued your interest but its not so popular and not uploaded in Gen/0Day sites,where do you get it from?Quote:
Originally Posted by puckface
Dont know if you were replying to me or not,but collections =/ the regular type of packs you see.What I meant by collections are like the 1001 movies,Criterion Collection,Dystopia Collection,IDA collection,Art house etc ...Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueSounds
To be exact,here is the quoted text from PtP:
It is always easy to find the things you are looking for in one place and that too organized and seeded as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by PtP
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Moreover some of their staff picks were really interesting movies which I would not have downloaded to see normally.
And the bonus system as I said helps people who have poor net connection(If people keep on seeding the movies they download,in time the number of seeding torrents piles up and getting bonus points becomes easier).
Also I am a sucker for simple and clean design with no unnecessary features etc.
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Originally Posted by AbyBeats
Stupid thing is that those are also just based on personal opinion(s) and essentially just as random a collection of movies as "movies that are awesome":unsure: