Demonoid Confusion

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

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Originally Posted by P2PDog

Then you're not meeting the conditions mentioned in the previous post.

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I seriously doubt that... given that it's been 3 years.

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It's OK to admit you're wrong.

Unless you're going to show me evidence that Demonoid tracks stats by member number, then I think I'm done here.

I don't think my ratio has been properly tracked there in at least a year, and I don't do any member number crap. It's just a poor system without passkeys, especially in the age of dynamic IPs. Altering a torrent filename doesn't do jack shit, try it with any torrent, rename it something completely irrelevant and it'll work fine.

Regarding how they get your IP address to check stats, it's THROUGH THE TRACKER.

Anyway until you come up with something relevant, I suggest you cease spreading your misinformation and leave the advice to people who understand how a .torrent file works.

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Originally Posted by ca_aok

Wwwildthing, I'm sorry but you're talking out your ass here. You cannot edit the filename of a .torrent file and expect any sort of change. I could rename my torrent to "thisfilesuckscocks.torrent" and the torrent will work, regardless. The name is irrelevant. Editing a filename has nothing to do with whether a torrent is public or private, nor does it have any effect on the ratio reported to the tracker.

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Originally Posted by P2PDog

When you download or seed a torrent using the Demonoid tracker using the IP address that is currently associated with your account, they will track the stats for that torrent. If you log into the site with one IP, then download the torrent with a different IP (for example: using a seedbox) then the stats will not be recorded on your account.

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And that's about it.

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

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Seriously, you are a fuckwit. Kill yourself.

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Originally Posted by Burnsy

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Originally Posted by ticchen

Alright, completely confused =/

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Don't worry about it mate... you'll find this happens with about 99 out of 100 threads posted. Just wade through what's posted and try to take info out of it that answers your question.

Threads on here start of addressing what you originally asked, then they take a complete tangent as other people jump in and start to converse with each other. It's not a slight on you, just look at any other threads :lol:

Also, don't worry if you don't understand some stuff... you'll notice some members knowledge is greater than others, and their 'base level' if higher than a lot can understand, again it happens :) If you're really lucky, you'll get some idiot pretending to be an expert only to be shot down in flames... those are the good threads :)

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Told ya :D

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Originally Posted by bumrocks

I believe the thread title is most appropriate...

Now if the OP can decipher and figure out who gave good info, who gave useless info, and who gave bad info...

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Patience bumrocks my good man... allow the thread to run it's course and those chatting shit will be revealed... surely you know that by now?!

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Originally Posted by ticchen

So in conclusion non members on Demonoid:
1. can't access forum
2. limited access on torrents

Got that right?
Sorry, but I'm trying =/

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I think now if you disregard the shit that has been exposed in this thread, your original question(s) will most probably be covered? :)

The only conclusion that I can draw from this thread... is that each and every one of you, completely missed the point.

Fact - Demonoid torrents have the 'private' flag set to 'off'.
Fact - Demonoid torrents do not use passkeys.
Fact - Torrents downloaded from Demonoid (while you are logged in) will have a 'member-number' in the filename.
Fact - Torrents downloaded from Demonoid (while you are a 'guest') will not.
Fact - Demonoid torrents downloaded from other index sites (i.e - The Pirate Bay) will not count towards your ratio at Demonoid (even tho it is tracked by Demonoid).
Fact - All of the above is true with a static ip address (known to the Demonoid tracker)... just as it is with a 'dynamic' ip address... or one provided via TOR.

The point of my comments was not to fix my broken ratio. I don't care what my ratio is... and there is no reason to do so.

Maybe now you'll get it... but I'm not really optimistic that you will.

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

The only conclusion that I can draw from this thread... is that each and every one of you, completely missed the point.

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

Fact - Demonoid torrents downloaded from other index sites (i.e - The Pirate Bay) will not count towards your ratio at Demonoid (even tho it is tracked by Demonoid).

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Wrong. You really should take a couple of minutes to read that link that I posted. It would make you look much less like a fool :)

http://fora.demonoid.com/index.php?topic=107626.0

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I haven't downloaded anything from Demonoid in a while, but my ratio keeps changing. Should I assume my account was hacked, and if so how can it be checked/proved?

It could be a case of dynamic IP's at work. The one Demonoid had stored next to your account was probably assigned to someone else who was a member of Demonoid and their stats got added to yours.

Or you inadvertently downloaded and seeded a Demonoid tracked torrent from another site, unaware that the stats would be sent to the Demonoid tracker. This seems to be the reason it happens mostly, people downloading Demonoid tracked torrents from other torrent index sites.

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

Fact - All of the above is true with a static ip address (known to the Demonoid tracker)... just as it is with a 'dynamic' ip address... or one provided via TOR.

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Wrong.

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

The point of my comments was not to fix my broken ratio. I don't care what my ratio is... and there is no reason to do so.

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Correct. Ratio is meaningless at Demonoid. Mostly because they use the wildly inaccurate method of tracking ratio by IP address, rather than using passkeys. (or member numbers. lol)

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

Maybe now you'll get it... but I'm not really optimistic that you will.

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The only one not getting it appears to be you, and I doubt that you ever will.

Actually it should have read...

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....they use the wildly inaccurate method of tracking ratio by IP address (or member-numbers), rather than using passkeys.

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To which I would have replied... "now your beginning to get it".

u cant call demonoid a private tracker.. but u cant call it a public tracker either.. but all in all its very easy to get into

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

Actually it should have read...

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....they use the wildly inaccurate method of tracking ratio by IP address (or member-numbers), rather than using passkeys.

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To which I would have replied... "now your beginning to get it".

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Nope, you're still wrong. They don't track by member numbers. period.

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Fact - Demonoid torrents have the 'private' flag set to 'off'.

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Some don't. That's why you can find "DHT patch" mods for different uTorrent versions on TPB. Demonoid's tracker has had its fair share of downtime in the past, and someone had the idea of removing uT's private flag check, so that he'd be able to finish his downloads, because many (although not all) of the Demonoid torrents he was trying to download had the flag set to 1, due to an uploader's mistake.

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Fact - Demonoid torrents do not use passkeys.

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True.

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Fact - Torrents downloaded from Demonoid (while you are logged in) will have a 'member-number' in the filename.

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Wrong. That isn't a member number, it's just a number. My Demonoid UID begins with 443, while the number in torrent files begins with 632.

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Fact - Torrents downloaded from Demonoid (while you are a 'guest') will not.

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True, they won't have that number.

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Fact - Demonoid torrents downloaded from other index sites (i.e - The Pirate Bay) will not count towards your ratio at Demonoid (even tho it is tracked by Demonoid).

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They will if you've logged in to Demonoid with the same IP at the time, regardless of where you get the .torrent file from.

I am only rehashing this cause in the last week i have downloaded some Thomas and Friends episodes for my son. They were internal torrents that only listed Demonoid as the announce tracker...

http://inferno.demonoid.me:3414/announce

Seeded them back to about a 3:1 ratio and my stats have never changed. I was logged in (my username avatar and stats are in upper left hand corner) and everything was downloaded to my computer...No box involved. The torrents are 2-3 days old now.

I bring this up as there was something else I got a few months back under similar circumstances that I seeded 10+ GB back and stats never changed.

I wonder if they have simply stopped updating stats? Has any regular users had their stats change as of late?

No, I am not terribly concerned about this. Yes, I am simply making conversation. Besides, I kinda enjoyed this thread when it was going back when ;)

Tricks in demonoid:

Before dwnlaoding a torrent from demonoid, stop all active demonoid torrents in your torrent client, log out from demonoid account, then again log in, start seeding-leeching torrents, download new torrent(s) from demonoid, and start leeching/seeding it. Remember demonoid updates their site once in a day, between GMT 9.30AM-9.45AM... So, remember to stop all your active torrents at least once just before that....

Source: one of the demonoid mod (7-8 months ago).
Dunno how their system work now.

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Originally Posted by bumrocks

I am only rehashing this cause in the last week i have downloaded some Thomas and Friends episodes for my son. They were internal torrents that only listed Demonoid as the announce tracker...

http://inferno.demonoid.me:3414/announce

Seeded them back to about a 3:1 ratio and my stats have never changed. I was logged in (my username avatar and stats are in upper left hand corner) and everything was downloaded to my computer...No box involved. The torrents are 2-3 days old now.

I bring this up as there was something else I got a few months back under similar circumstances that I seeded 10+ GB back and stats never changed.

I wonder if they have simply stopped updating stats? Has any regular users had their stats change as of late?

No, I am not terribly concerned about this. Yes, I am simply making conversation. Besides, I kinda enjoyed this thread when it was going back when ;)

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It's happened to me numerous times. Sit there and see a bunch, but then nothing changes or you DL and then take a huge hit without the accompanied seed ratio adjustment. I just think that's how their site is.

Did you stop the torrent(s) in your client? The tracker only updates stats when it receives an "event=stopped" message.

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Originally Posted by Hiccup

I just think that's how their site is.

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I dn't think they care to much about ratio.. Amst a ratio free site. So you can do/leech/seed whatever you want.

http://image.bayimg.com/oadmeaadj.jpg

There you go.

Thing is. Demonoid is the greatest tracker in the world, but no ones want to admit it. So Demonoid is the slut of the world, right? Not really. It's an awesome tracker loved by everyone, hated by the elitist, and loved by everyone again. I love it, and always have. And so should you.