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Don't try to bury the obvious fact by baseless philosophy.
Every single dead philosopher just shed a tear from heaven. And yes, they "have the ability to transform themselves into an angel or god and move to the top."Quote:
Originally Posted by whatcdfan
title and the posts of the topis is not same, so, kinda confusing. :unsure:
Yea I am total with ya there bijoy....it went from the main topic to a total weid stuff...lol
Please use some commas once in awhile.:PQuote:
Originally Posted by whatcdfan
I had a hard time figuring out your point, other that you believe that none of the interpersonal interactions you have online mean anything beyond ones and zeros. I believe this to be a patently absurd estimation. The length of your response tells me you have feelings, and that they were affected by my post, which I consider a validation of my point.Quote:
there could be further additions to that but still dosent eliminate my point
You were aggressive and confrontational in your post that lea88 was responding to, so yes, both of you do. Again, this supports my argument.Quote:
do i fall in this category? if yes then what about this http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/4...=1#post3537356Quote:
That belief that all of these interactions you have on a daily basis, on the internet, are "fake" is some of the most delusional tripe I have ever heard. There are people on the other end of every last post you make, and they all have feelings
Good sir, I feel you know nothing of my own journeys through life and my own hardships, which are not exactly a shiny happy tale themselves. I am no child by any stretch of the imagination, and have lived a hard life in my time on this earth. I do not argue that life is not hard compared to the internet, however that does not excuse a haphazard and indifferent attitude towards everyone you talk to online. It's a straw man anyways, i.e. a nonpoint.Quote:
btw apparently you have not lived the real life enough which a normal human does on average.this world is not a dream place we wish to live in, it has uncountable problems and sufferings in it my mothers eldest son was killed after 2 months of birth only because he would have gone on to claim the legacy of my father but my mother held on to it and finally she got her reward for not falling apart today after 30 years i have claimed my fathers legacy.the things that happen on the internet are by far have any practical meanings if someone has not went through experiencing this world and let himself influence and fall apart then they have lot to improve even if you choose to lie to yourself about this fact.
I did, hence the not addressing you again till you responded. ;) I am partial, in that circumstance, because in this instance, I felt that it was turned into a bullying situation, which always leave the bullied feeling defensive.Quote:
you should wait a little and let me speak for myself before you go on to make such a conclusive statement, why are you so partial? the dispute happened between two people and if you question my stance why dont you be just and ask the same to the other person involved or comment on him.
I can only hope you are more polite in real life then, and my post had nothing to do with your responses to me, or your responses to lea88, it had to do with this wide belief, which you demonstrated quite literally, that none of what people say online matters at all. This is a falsehood, that you are demonstrating the falseness of with your own post.Quote:
i am aware of the elasticity of the language, words can be manipulated to drive fake meanings that can be used to make wishful statements/comments. i too could have replied in different ways with different attitudes to your post but i choose to be what i am and post the first things that come to my mind
Nice attempt at turning my own words on me, however, I chose my words carefully, and did not, in point of fact, insult you, or disparage you as a human being, only questioned your belief that this is all fake. I must ask, have you read any of my posts? I agree ABSOLUTELY with the first part of this last quote, in a metaphorical sense at least. I do not believe I am any better than you, or idol, or lea88, or anon, or any of the wide spectrum of personalities that inhabit this field, and I thought I have been pretty clear about that belief. I do however take issue with the effort to justify being shitty to others with the "fakeness" of the internet. You just happpend to blatantly demonstrate that attempt at justification, so you got quoted. Sorry about your luck I guess.Quote:
btw, have you realized the fact that being humans we all stand at the same height from the ground and it is impossible to asses how much one has digged underneath himself unless you have the ability to transform yourself into an angel or god and move to the top so think about that the next time you thoughtlessly post the first words that come to your mind on any subject.
And just one more thing, I do, truthfully, appreciate you giving a thought out argument for your response instead of just saying hey fuck you noob,(though that is your implication with this sentence: "btw apparently you have not lived the real life enough which a normal human does on average"). You call me below average and subhuman with that statement. And it points out what I mean by thinking about what you say before you hit that enter button.
you are doing it wrong "assuming" and driving the meanings you wish to see and since you have opted you to judge yourself with your eyes closed surely you can consider your point to be valid and since you have already judged it to be valid (based on the length of my post instead of arguments in it) and taken away my right to challenge it by falsely assuming on the facts which are not there, nothing has left for me to be reasoning you with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
are you sleeping or pretending to be sleeping, wake up and see it was other way around. i only unearthed her lie and never told her "fuck yourself" "retarted" "monkey" etc before she said all this and more unto me,in case you did not notice i was replying to her and moreover she told me to not to post, needless to say she was having a superiority complexQuote:
You were aggressive and confrontational in your post that lea88 was responding to, so yes, both of you do. Again, this supports my argument.
do you know why idol earned her anger? because he was too having similar discussion as yours that was directed towards her
i also can only hope you are more realistic, unpartial and unjust in real lifeQuote:
I can only hope you are more polite in real life
i too felt it although it does not matter to me but your attempt deserves admiration and similar attitude in responceQuote:
I chose my words carefully, and did not, in point of fact, insult you, or disparage you as a human being
truth is hard to swallow, its a well known fact though not surprisingly the point i was trying to make flew over your head.let me rephrase, you cannot judge the personality of anyone to perfection unless you are god this is what i meant to say with "people have more dimensions to their personalities" and i do understand you need to neglect my arguments to attain the task you are up to.Quote:
I agree ABSOLUTELY with the first part of this last quote, in a metaphorical sense at least.I do not believe I am any better than you
i got quoted because you have portrait an image of mine and you want to prove yourself that i am nothing more then that. i can only ask you to come back to your senses and realize that you are in deceit.i also see how eager you are to prove to yourself that you judged me to perfection when you tried to held me accountable on more then one instances on the grounds which i never argued/opposed to in your PTN giveaway threadQuote:
so you got quoted.
i am not as miserable as you think i am, i can take care of myself, keep your fake sympathy in intention to drive me nutts to yourself.Quote:
Sorry about your luck I guess.
If you go on to explore what else this world and everything in it has to offer you will appreciate it more.Quote:
I do, truthfully, appreciate you giving a thought out argument for your response instead of just saying hey fuck you noob
just to let you know by being so partial and one sided your effort to make me realize cant be considered, sorry
btw i am curious to see if you come back to post a reply since my long post already would have validated your point, or is there anything left for you to argue in order to prove me wrong, lea88 did it with vulgarity and inevitably failed and you are doing it with sincerity, good luck
I would humbly request you get a dictionary, read my post, and reference any words I used that you don't recognize. Because your responses don't address many of my points, and your misinterpretation of the words I am using is doing you a disservice.
in the first quote, you try to equate me saying I "considered" something to me assuming something, when it fact it's the opposite. Your entire post is a strawman that does not address the whole point of my response to you. My point being that what people say to each other online DOES matter, and every post you make in response proves that point. It's the scientific method whatcdfan, observation and recreation of that observation in a controlled setting.
My observation is that what we say online matters. You prove it by wasting your time to tell me how I'm wrong about things that are irrelevant to the original point I made. Deal with and try to stop misdirecting the subject of yours and mines "debate".
The end point re: lea88, is that you followed her to another thread to both insult and troll her. It's her thread, and whether you like it or not, it will be her thread. Just because you take advantage of the tendencies of the moderators to let anything go, does not make it right. It's quite cowardly actually. It's also probably a good bit of the reason that this particular thread exists. To stop both of you from bickering like children in a request thread.
And for the love of god, learn the definition of the word metaphor. I know english is not your first language, so I take the time to explain myself, if you don't like that, stop replying, because I really do love to read my own words, so please give me a reason to explain more things you won't listen to...
Is there anything special here, that I'm missing? :unsure:
It's one of those rare occasions when two people explore a difference of opinion in depth. I know, it's FST, wtf? I enjoy philosophical arguments, and this one has been remarkably civil so far, considering the number of words being bandied about.Quote:
Originally Posted by bijoy
To me this whole 'social' aspect of elite private bt, coupled with obsessions of quality over quantity (memberwise), has focused in on wit and ability to write, which is why discussions always head this direction. In reality there only has to be limited social components to trackers, and ideal members don't have much if any correlation to this train of thought. So much easier to ignore these types of forums as well as any invites you are given.
I haven't used an invite in probably over 2 years (ignoring one of two for real life friends), and I haven't been banned anywhere in over 2 years as well.
i made that post from my working computer in one shot as you can see its unedited but having said that i really dont need to address all those fake points you raised, yes fake points and if you cant help yourself to realize that then how can you expect me to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
only because the grounds those words are raised from are not valid but hay that is my opinion of course they are all valid from your viewpoint without even being challengedQuote:
and your misinterpretation of the words I am using is doing you a disservice.
you will have to work hard to take me there discussing it and its kinda unlikely unless you judge the dispute story unbiased to its merit.Quote:
My point being that what people say to each other online DOES matter
let me quote here the contradictions of your post and my reasons for not taking it any further,
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every post you make in response proves that point
this is what i meant with the first quote of my previous post, and this is what i meant "you should wait and let me speak" in the post prior to that but since you are so sure about what you are speaking and got into this discussion only to impose all that on me is kind of unjustified from my end and since you have already declared it a waste of time do not expect a reply from meQuote:
You prove it by wasting your time to tell me how I'm wrong
its not limited to this much only. you have completely ignored the considerations and altered the reality part of it in order to make it fit into your "no go" effortQuote:
My observation is that what we say online matters.
already successfully dealt it with apparently you are having problems and you are the one who is up to prove somethingQuote:
Deal with and try to stop misdirecting the subject of yours and mines "debate".
You forget to quote/comment what happened before it this is what i meant with "altering the reality in order to make it fit into your perspective" and "drive wishful conclusions" which are largely affected with personal bias.Quote:
you followed her to another thread to both insult and troll her
If you term catching a lier and making it public in order to alarm the innocent inviters as "insult", i suggest you should buy a dictionary for yourself.
And how does exactly "her thread" forbid me to post in it? this aint a personal property its a public forum and now i see your point, i dont have the right to post in her thread and she has all the right in the world to tell me who i am, great going manQuote:
It's her thread, and whether you like it or not, it will be her thread
btw you need to learn a lesson about the public forum culture instead of trying to teach me one
i am not a relative of any mod, their vision was not draped by "fake assumptions" as yours and they did not saw only one side of the story to drive wishful meaningless conclusion of it.your being so impartial and one sided take that it was wrong dosent make it universally wrong either.Quote:
Just because you take advantage of the tendencies of the moderators to let anything go, does not make it right.
in which godly language of the world " standing upto and proving the accusations" make it actually cowardly and if you think its other way around why dont you show me some bravery by not replying to any post where i am straight forwardly interacting with youQuote:
It's quite cowardly actually.
Did, i apologies for thatQuote:
And for the love of god, learn the definition of the word metaphor.
i am glad you did not dragged me into burning hot desert sun for thatQuote:
I know english is not your first language
In this topic: Whatcdfan says what people say online doesn't matter*. Intra4nny says it does and pseudo-harasses Whatcdfan (justifiably). Whatcdfan gets butthurt and defends himself, countering his original point.
TL;DR:
In this topic: Failed philosophical points of view being pulled out from under the people that uphold them.
* - A statement that negates itself.
:naughty: That's one of the fun things about philosophizing, it doesn't matter if there is a right or wrong. (yeah, I'm snickering over this post o' mine :whistling)Quote:
Originally Posted by ringhunter
But when discussing philosophy, it should be relative to the subject at hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t:naughty: That's one of the fun things about philosophizing, it doesn't matter if there is a right or wrong. (yeah, I'm snickering over this post o' mine :whistling)Quote:
Originally Posted by ringhunter
whatcdfan looks familiar ..
lea88 is lea88 :)
I disagree in this instance. Shall I give my arguments for why? This thread was a cull, with the most likely purpose of telling both whatcdfan and lea88 to get the fuck over it. I made a point that I felt was toward that goal, and now that the discussion of that point I raised has degraded to selective quoting and straw men, I don't see a purpose to carrying that particular ort of oratory any further. Besides, I feel I demonstrated my original point quite well, despite the devolution of that back and forth.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
But, do you think GOD will like us and humanity for making such posts in FST? The mere thought troubles my mind.Maybe GOD doesn't like discussions at all.We should all treat others as childrens of GOD and never hurt their feelings. (I think, I made my point :shifty:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1tI disagree in this instance. Shall I give my arguments for why? This thread was a cull, with the most likely purpose of telling both whatcdfan and lea88 to get the fuck over it. I made a point that I felt was toward that goal, and now that the discussion of that point I raised has degraded to selective quoting and straw men, I don't see a purpose to carrying that particular ort of oratory any further. Besides, I feel I demonstrated my original point quite well, despite the devolution of that back and forth.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
I'll be completely honest AbyBeats, I dislike discussing religiosity, and I have to ask, what posts are you referring to?Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
Ans:Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1tI'll be completely honest AbyBeats, I dislike discussing religiosity, and I have to ask, what posts are you referring to?Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
(I think I made my point for the 2nd time :shifty:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1tI disagree in this instance. Shall I give my arguments for why? This thread was a cull, with the most likely purpose of telling both whatcdfan and lea88 to get the fuck over it. I made a point that I felt was toward that goal, and now that the discussion of that point I raised has degraded to selective quoting and straw men, I don't see a purpose to carrying that particular ort of oratory any further. Besides, I feel I demonstrated my original point quite well, despite the devolution of that back and forth.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
rename the thread: whatcdfan and Intr4ns1t spreading the love
What? That I have verbal diarrhea and post off topic? That god hates FST? That philosophy is ungodly? That I am easily distracted? Please help me understand better your point that I am missing. My poor old addled brain is having a hard time keeping up.:wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
When this thread started and then as it progressed, whatcdfan made lesser and lesser sense of what he was saying, and started typing BS philosophy which doesn't even relate to the discussion at hand.And when I commented, that when discussing philosophy, it should be relative to the discussion at hand, you disagreed.Then to prove my point, I went onto make my own philosophical BS which had nothing to do with our discussion (just like whatcdfan did when you and he was discussing) and you seem to not catch up.
(I think I made my point for the 3rd time :shifty:)
Indeed you did, thank you for explaining yourself more, as I am not feeling terribly quick today, obviously. I had a hunch it was something like that, but I didn't want to assume your intent. Sarcasm is often the hardest to gather from text for me. Happens all the time, tbh, but yeah, when I read my own post, I realized how silly my first sentence was in regards to your post, but apparently, it's sure proof of a liar to edit a post here, nowadays. :P My disagreement was mostly with the presumption that this thread had a topic to begin with. Apologies for not stating it, my brain got ahead of itself in that instance.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
brother, i will try to be as much truthful as i can be, i tried to tell you before but you dont listen, i did not fall into the discussion for the point you raised only because of your assumption that i only know one way of interacting with people and that is hate which is not true.though that was your implication with this quoteQuote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
and the point you raised were raised from the pit of my conflict which in my opinion you did not judged fairly and that is the sole reason why your effort was rejectedQuote:
I do, truthfully, appreciate you giving a thought out argument for your response instead of just saying hey fuck you noob
you may not know but i had my reasons to think why someone who thinks i am a barbarian wants to get into a discussion of morality with me?
and the point you made was completely unfair considering the grounds it was raised from, though like yours the post i made from which you raised the point was my most humble attempt to ask lea88 to get over it and it came from my own believe that i have had enough with her and its time to move on
my replies to you were centered at the attempt to make you realize that you cannot judge anyone to perfection with only few instances and limited period of time and that you should pull your drapes down and see the other part of the story.
the only individual i wish to listen to in this thread is Aby because his views on me are not affected by personal bias, though he disagrees with my replies to you( which he has the right to be disagree) , he never demonstrated that he disagrees with my my replies to lea88 given this attitude, he or you or anyone else comes to have a debate with me, i will surely respond as you may have noticed by now i never run away from posts/questions/discussions directed towards me and i never ask/tell anyone to not to post in my thread, i will feel left out if no one comes to post in my thread because my sole reason would be not to fetch a commodity but to have a healthy discussion or to seek help.this is the reason for which i went against lea, she only comes to browse invites section (that is not enough, many other people does that) and told a lie on the top of that and when asked about it ( she could have simple told another lie to cover that up which btw she did later on) she used abusive language that is why she was taught a lesson which she deserved and i successfully revealed her rude behavior (superiority complex is not only predictable but also its own enemy) and i can only hope she understands this, everyone makes mistakes but they can overcome it by learning their lessons and by the will of becoming better.honesty is an investment which always pays off its debt
i want you to give me a little time and judge me a little more in that time that may cut some of your assumptions then i will be more then happy to have a discussion about moral values with you (please do not assume that i said what i said unknowingly, i know what i said and i can put forward my opinion about it), i ask you have you ever seen me using disrespectful language with idol,Anon,cabalo,cine,Aby,bijoy,Anarkial,ScottK, No because i have taken enough time to observe these people and implied those observations on my attitude with these people, the scientific method you were talking about.
People that can't be bothered using approriate interpunction and/or capitalization should be prohibited to post!!!
Edit for Ringunter:
People that don't bother to use approriate interpunction and/or capitalization should refrain from posting!!!
Add to that people who mix up their prepositions, and we're all set! :happy:
I honestly did not understood a word of what happened in the last 2 pages. I got a B at 86% in my O Levels English though
I would prefer being prohibited to post for using google translate more :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Disme
P.S. Taken into account
@lea88: Here's your answer
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Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
I wasn't going to respond to you anymore whatcdfan, but I just want to say you are a self-righteous egomaniac. You have consistently ignored the points I am making, while trying to put words in my mouth and using your own high self opinion as justification.
You will only listen to Aby because he agrees with your opinion of lea88?
I was, originally, just having one over on you, but fuck you. You are an ignorant prick who does nothing but spread discord with every post, and you are a scourge on both this forum and BT. Your post history shows this continued pattern of baiting people and posting off topic, which is why you found yourself with a whole thread dedicated to your own stupid, petty, and childish carrying on of a flame war that was baseless and unproductive. lea88 had the civility/brains to drop the subject, and get the fucking point, but your selfishness keeps you constantly digging yourself deeper with stupid statements that are only making your egotism more crystal clear as each post comes up.
I am done in this thread, so don't bother with another self-loving overlong post that doesn't address anything I say on the subject I called you out on, which you have proven repeatedly is false with your own actions. Happy new year.
no offence, but i agree on Intr4ns1t bout this. i found you (whatcdfan) become a bit too much overreacted with your posting attitude. really difference from what 'you' before.. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
i'd like to know who you really are, brother ScottK. it'd be great to know you better.
Cry of a frustrated child who wanted a candy but did'nt get it :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
Happy new year heathen
You are too naive scotty, you dont realize his real intentions behind this, he tried to get hold of me before this as well, this was bound to happen and now its settle once and for allQuote:
Originally Posted by ScottK
Worry not friend, we ll keep on having our share of fun bro :)
For the record: Your 'buddy' scotty agreed with Intr4ns1t :ermm: :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by whatcdfanYou are too naive scotty, you dont realize his real intentions behind this, he tried to get hold of me before this as well, this was bound to happen and now its settle once and for allQuote:
Originally Posted by ScottK
Worry not friend, we ll keep on having our share of fun bro :)
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Originally Posted by whatcdfanCry of a frustrated child who wanted a candy but did'nt get it :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
Happy new year heathen
You are too naive scotty, you dont realize his real intentions behind this, he tried to get hold of meQuote:
Originally Posted by ScottK
before this as well, this was bound to happen and now its settle once and for all
Worry not friend, we ll keep on having our share of fun bro :)
:huh: I think you just proved his point...Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
All long as he baits another reply it doesn't really matterQuote:
Originally Posted by ExpetoQuote:
Originally Posted by whatcdfan
Cry of a frustrated child who wanted a candy but did'nt get it :lol:
Happy new year heathen
You are too naive scotty, you dont realize his real intentions behind this, he tried to get hold of meQuote:
Originally Posted by ScottK
before this as well, this was bound to happen and now its settle once and for all
Worry not friend, we ll keep on having our share of fun bro :)
:huh: I think you just proved his point...Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
Congrats ScottK, you are becoming popular here.. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by cinephilia
Agreed. Good to have you around, scottk.Quote:
Originally Posted by cinephilia
I'm also finding itnearlyat the pain threshold to decipher what whatcdfan has been attempting to say. Pseudo-intellectuals are ridiculous when they try to spin themselves out of their nonsense.