Your Tips To New Torrent Users?

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Originally Posted by bigdaddydude

Here are some tips.
2. Don't use the same user name twice

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Worst advice ever. If you have different usernames at all your trackers people could easily assume your an account trader. When someone trades for an account they don't get to choose the username they have at the tracker, so someone who trades lots of account will have all kinds of crazy usernames that don't relate to each other at all. On the other hand, if you have the same username at your trackers the worst that could mean is your trading invites. For the reason I stated it's literally impossible to be an account trader if you use the same username everywhere.

Unless you have all the trackers you need and don't need to bother searching for any invites, which wouldn't apply to new torrent users, having a name people recognize and trust helps a great deal.

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Originally Posted by gamesover

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Originally Posted by bigdaddydude

Here are some tips.
2. Don't use the same user name twice

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...having a name people recognize and trust helps a great deal.

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Learn people..

Agreed. I have the same nick everywhere, including here (minus the underscore) and I've yet to run into any problems.

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Originally Posted by stoi

also 5 and 10 how are you supposed to make friends if you never go to the forums/irc?

I really dont see why new members shouldnt come to forums/IRC though, especially if they have questions (regarding anything not just BT/tracker related), just because someone posts a lot, or comes into IRC it doesnt mean they are "sucking up" to the staff, and most owners have been in this long enough to tell the genuine members to the sucky uperers (the sucky uperers will never get a staff position on my tracker anyway), but if you know what the hell you are talking about on a certain subject and you help members out, one may very well come your way (a staff position that is).

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People don't go to IRC because it's an overly-complicated for the neophyte ?
As for forums I can't really comment on BCG not being active there but most give up in frustration either out of general lack of activity or subjects being largely about things they have little interest in. I know despite best intentions that I've beaten my head against the wall in both regards at a couple places.

As for being staff, no disrespect intended but seriously who in their right mind wants to be that?

One comment on the "making friends " part .You can set out to be friendly but you can't tick in your diary "Today I will make friends "
You either make friends naturally or you don't .Anything premeditated transforms the process into something else entirely and I don't think the word for it is very nice.

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Originally Posted by bigdaddydude

Here are some tips. modified by bijoy

There are 2 types of users.. So, there will be 2 cases.. :lol:

Case 1: (for good users)
1. Use a seperate gmail account for all of your tracker invites (not your personal one) Comment: This is optional/half true. If you are registering in any well known/old tracker then use your preferred email. Use a saperate email ID while joining any new tracker which just come into the picture. So, 2 e-mail IDs are good. :)

2. Don't use the same user name twice Comment: ALWAYS use same username. Btw what's in the name? :idunno:

3. Learn Bittorrent, how to upload and SEED.

4. Don't cheat/trade.

5. Don't hang out in IRC or post much in forums Comment: Post in forums, when you need some serious info. now-a-days I can see irc become nothing more than a place to troll & ass licking. P.S. I don't know anything about bcg irc.. Never been there.. ;)

6. Always read the rules and FAQ

7. Do not download large packs first Comment: If they are freeleech then grab them if the seeder: leecher <= 4:5 (at least) <--- refer to snatchlist for more details like peer speeds, it is most imp, as it tells you the difference between active peers & partial snatchers.

8. Beware of the hot torrents

9. Respect the staff Do not respect, but behave politely with very few staffs, specially the veterans (generally, admin & sysops) of some old trackers..
Addition: always avoid mods, most of the cases they some some new 'active' members who got teh promotion.. Look their id number in the site to be sure.. If the id is less then its good, otherwise just avoid them those kids. :P

10. Make friends <-- this not really helps except for accidentally making friendship with someone who is hdbits vip *peace*...

Case 2: for other users who don't love to be a good user.

1. Use a seperate gmail account for all of your tracker invites (not your personal one) <-- very important.

2. Don't use the same user name twice <-- very important!!!

3. Learn Bittorrent, how to upload and SEED. Comment: Do you need to?

4. Don't cheat/trade. :whistling

5. Don't hang out in IRC or post much in forums

6. Always read the rules and FAQ Comment: don't waste your valuable time. :D

7. Do not download large packs first

8. Beware of the hot torrents <-- really, do you need to? :huh:

9. Respect the staff Comment: huh! who cares?? right? ;)

10. Make friends Comment: what's the use of it??

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Good one bijoy, especially the second part

i saw a screenshot of a tracker whatcdfan posted yesterday ..

which tracker was that ?

the black one ..

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

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Originally Posted by stoi

also 5 and 10 how are you supposed to make friends if you never go to the forums/irc?

I really dont see why new members shouldnt come to forums/IRC though, especially if they have questions (regarding anything not just BT/tracker related), just because someone posts a lot, or comes into IRC it doesnt mean they are "sucking up" to the staff, and most owners have been in this long enough to tell the genuine members to the sucky uperers (the sucky uperers will never get a staff position on my tracker anyway), but if you know what the hell you are talking about on a certain subject and you help members out, one may very well come your way (a staff position that is).

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People don't go to IRC because it's an overly-complicated for the neophyte ?
As for forums I can't really comment on BCG not being active there but most give up in frustration either out of general lack of activity or subjects being largely about things they have little interest in. I know despite best intentions that I've beaten my head against the wall in both regards at a couple places.

As for being staff, no disrespect intended but seriously who in their right mind wants to be that?

One comment on the "making friends " part .You can set out to be friendly but you can't tick in your diary "Today I will make friends "
You either make friends naturally or you don't .Anything premeditated transforms the process into something else entirely and I don't think the word for it is very nice.

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Surely to make friends on a tracker (if indeed you want to) you still have to take part, its no good not using the forums/IRC and then saying, damn they are crap and not very talkative, if you dont use them yourself. So saying in 1 point, dont use the forums or IRC and then in the next point make friends, how can you make friends on a tracker if you dont use forums or IRC? that was my point.

And why shouldnt someone want to be staff, pleased not everyone thinks like that or there wouldnt be any trackers.

but in all honesty, and this is going back somewhat on what i have been trying to prove, when this was the Klite forums years ago, I made about 10-20 friends on here in a few months, added them to chat programs, and they helped me get BCG off the ground (IE being staff), then i left here because i didnt use Klite anymore, came back as it is now FST, and in 3-4 years i have not made 1 friend on here, as in adding to a chat program and chatting to them live over that.

It just seems everywhere is changing, back then you made friends and shared stuff, I even had my own FTP with stuff on for users on here from my 32KBs connection, instead of them getting it from Klite, now you never see anything like that, and i dont think its just BT its the whole of the net, its gone far to impersonal, or social networking where you may have 1000 ppl on your friends list, and only ever talk to 2.

but anyway to new users, read the faq/rules and dont think well "i read the ones on tracker A, tracker B will be the same", they wont be, and then just enjoy it and do whatever comes naturally to you (as long as you dont break the rules)

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Originally Posted by stoi

It just seems everywhere is changing, back then you made friends and shared stuff, I even had my own FTP with stuff on for users on here from my 32KBs connection, instead of them getting it from Klite, now you never see anything like that, and i dont think its just BT its the whole of the net, its gone far to impersonal, or social networking where you may have 1000 ppl on your friends list, and only ever talk to 2.

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Just be honest, tell on thing: don't you think that the bolded part is actually doing very much harm to bt?? I used to have some (4-5) very good friends in bt 4-5 years back.. they were very famous uploaders in some trackers... And now, all of them moved to usenet, rarely use bt, except for (explicitly saying) whatcd and bcg.
Not only them, I heard that many many 'good' users of the past are not there in trackers... Not so much popular nicks... :(
Even I don't know last time when & where I saw pdq in an irc chan or tracker.. ( only example )

people grow up, get jobs, get families and even die, so other things take over their life, the problem that i am seeing, and it may be just on BCG is the older members are going for whatever reason, but if we open up we may get 3 members out of 3,000-10,000 that join in so to speak, 1 of those will be all over the forum/irc tracker for 2 weeks and then just disapear when they dont get staff, another one may last a couple of months, and maybe the other if we are lucky will stay for the long haul.

We have just pruned bambacha, 87TB uploaded #1 on the top 10, VIP but he has not been seen for 80 weeks (VIP are immune to pruning). keeping him as a VIP did not really send the correct message out "oh bambacha is still VIP i dont have to even login for over year and i can remain as VIP" as VIP is gained from the staff/other VIPs not from ratio/donations on BCG. But i had to put him to user and so he got pruned by the system, and i did try to send him an email but it got returned to me, so no idea whats happened to him, but we gave him every chance.

As an owner i would much rather see someone make 2-3 informative/helpful posts a day over a 6 month to a year period, than a member that joins and makes 80 posts a day, even if some of those are helpful/informative, just to try and get attention for a staf postition (mind you they may just like using forums but if they did they wouldnt just disapear after 2 weeks).

So yes, older members leave, and the newer members usually dont give a shite, and probably the older members dont either, its all about getting into as many as you can these days, or just curiosity, join up, nah, leave.

It's interesting to hear all of your opinions. I just never thought that I should keep the same username everywhere I go. Why would it not make sense?

I think one of the issues that BCG and game trackers in general face is that their products have quite a bit of longevity. If you download a movie, and watch it maybe twice, that's 4 hours of your time taken up. You're going to be looking for new movies fairly soon. However, I can play a good game for months before going to look for a new download. That's one of the reasons I never joined BCG until it was open signups, as I worried and still worry that my account will probably get pruned since I won't download enough stuff.

On an unrelated side note I also found the rules against uploading DLC, patches, and the like somewhat disheartening, since I was used to having them at Bitgamer. I know there was a poll about that a while back but I'm not sure what the results were. I see from the current poll that they're going to be at least partially allowed, which is a good thing imo :)

You have lost me lol when has DLC, patches and the like ever been disallowed on BCG? they have always been allowed. we just could never work out which cat they should go in game dox like usenet has them or in their respective cats so PC for PC patches, Jtag for DLC etc etc.

Perhaps the selection was just lower than I was used to then. I remember I went looking for some when I first joined and came up empty handed :(

well we dont disallow them thats for sure, we have 400 with update in the title, 200 with patch in the title and 505 with DLC in the title, so maybe you just got unlucky, but you could have requested them if you needed them badly.

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Originally Posted by stoi

well we dont disallow them thats for sure, we have 400 with update in the title, 200 with patch in the title and 505 with DLC in the title, so maybe you just got unlucky, but you could have requested them if you needed them badly.

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from where you come up with these exact numbers? :lol:

its called search

search update
search patch
search DLC

pretty clever eh lol

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Originally Posted by stoi

its called search

search update
search patch
search DLC

pretty clever eh lol

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only avilable for admins eh!! (guess advanced search or something like that) :P
Btw: looks like you are funny person...lol... (DO not consider it as ass licking :P ) <-- teh main thing of cncern in bt

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Originally Posted by bijoy

only avilable for admins eh!! (guess advanced search or something like that) :P

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:frusty:

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Originally Posted by bijoy

only avilable for admins eh!! (guess advanced search or something like that) :P
Btw: looks like you are funny person...lol... (DO not consider it as ass licking :P ) <-- teh main thing of cncern in bt

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Someone is having a lot of fun :D

not sure if you are trying to pull my leg here or something, but its the standard search on the tracker browse page, type update press search and 200 torrents will show up. you can even search in descriptions, type what you want, drop down to descriptions press search, good for seeing if anything is in a pack (i the uploader has listed whats in the pack of course).

anyway will leave it there, as i am pretty sure i am heading towards a fall here (but maybe this will help some new users, even though it is pretty commen knowledge, or so i thought before this thread lol)

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Originally Posted by whatcdfan

Someone is having a lot of fun :D

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confusion tend to happen all the time, and sometimes it have a lot of advarse effect on amyone's e-life. So, just want to be clear from all these 'e' thingy.

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Originally Posted by stoi

not sure if you are trying to pull my leg here or something,

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that's the problem with internet.. I want to mean one thing and people at the receiving end tend to think/understand another point.. :lol:
btw, I never tried to experiment with search function till now :)

Don't know if its been said already, but never say you 'dream' of a tracker. I hate it when people say that, don't dream about getting invited to a tracker. None of them are worth dreaming about. You should 'want' to be invited to a tracker. Dream about things that matter like meeting the love of your life or finding that great job.

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Originally Posted by bigdaddydude

It's interesting to hear all of your opinions. I just never thought that I should keep the same username everywhere I go. Why would it not make sense?

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I don't have the same nick everywhere, and I've never ran into a problem because of it. I certainly don't care about some online reputation, so having the same nick everywhere holds no interest for me. I like changing things up a bit.

If you want to use a different nick at each tracker then do it. Just because a few people have the same username at every site they belong to doesn't mean you have to.

Some practical(not political) hints for BT:

1.) If you are downloading a pack, and it is going slowly, prioritize individual movies/episodes to enjoy some of the content in that pack before it is anywhere near finished. {especially useful trick if you actual consume the files you download}.

2.) When searching most trackers, use at least 4 characters, as most unaltered search functions require a minimum of four characters to actually do anything( this avoids the "omg I got 2000 results searching for 13" problems) Try including other parts of a common naming scheme like the format/year/group.

3.) Try not to download directly to cheap external hard drives if you can, as it's much harder on your hardware. Moving files from your main hdd to the external will generally be much quicker anyways. (this helps avoid many of the "disk overload" errors seen when dling, as well as constantly fluctuating speeds)

4.) Do not try download faster than your hardware can handle. (self explanatory) Honestly, you should always cap your download and upload speed to below your max speeds. This leaves you bandwidth for the rest of your internetting wants.

5.) Avoid brand new blockbusters on public trackers(safety first) These are the swarms that generally get the most attention from ip harvesting orgs.

6a.) Public Trackers - read the comments first. This is the best way to avoid infected/fake files. If you get a fake/infected file, LEAVE A FUCKING COMMENT!(sorry for yelling, I just really hate that more people don't warn others about bs files)
6b.) Private trackers - ignore the comments. If the file is borked, a decent private tracker will remove the bad versions, and beyond that there's no need for comments on the file itself.

7.) Learn how to use the advanced functions on your bt client, such as queing, moving dls on completion, schedules, limiters, rss feeds, as they can greatly assist your torrenting experience.

8.) Do not operate under the assumption that downloading from a private tracker makes you any safer than downloading from a public tracker, even if you are. (safety first) Always practice safe filesharing.

9.) If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. It's the internet people.That Inception.2010.1440p that was uploaded in 2008? Probably not real. Harry Potter 9? Probably a fake. Brand new leet tracker, with 170,000 torrents, and 1,000,000 members, that noone heard of before two days ago? Probably bs.

10.) Never ever ever believe that you need to download shit you don't want. That's horse crap, and if you feel a need to do so on a tracker, you probably don't need that site. I have yet to be on ANY site that was the only place/way to get a specific bit of media.(I will give an exemption for language specific trackers that are non-english)

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Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t

3.) Try not to download directly to cheap external hard drives if you can, as it's much harder on your hardware. Moving files from your main hdd to the external will generally be much quicker anyways. (this helps avoid many of the "disk overload" errors seen when dling, as well as constantly fluctuating speeds)

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You can change your client's disk cache settings to overcome that. For example, I've set uTorrent's disk cache size to 100MB, and tweaked some of the other settings to minimize disk access as much as possible. I download and seed 90% of my stuff to and from my terabyte external drive, and never had any problems.

A more general tip for external HDD users, always make sure it's operating in USB 2.0 mode, and don't disregard those "the device could work faster" pop-ups from Windows. If files are copied to that drive at 900kB/s, you know what the problem is.

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4.) Do not try download faster than your hardware can handle. (self explanatory) Honestly, you should always cap your download and upload speed to below your max speeds. This leaves you bandwidth for the rest of your internetting wants.

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True. Limiting your upload speed to 75 or 80% of its maximum is usually the way to go. If you max out your upload, downloading and latency will suffer, because of the extra TCP overhead. Similarly, maxing out your download usually slows uploading down.

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5.) Avoid brand new blockbusters on public trackers(safety first) These are the swarms that generally get the most attention from ip harvesting orgs.

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To this I'd add: use some form of IP blocking if you download public torrents regularly, and even if you don't (which is what I think you mean on point 8).

Oh, and last but not least...

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1440p ... Harry Potter 9?

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by anon-sbi

You can change your client's disk cache settings to overcome that. For example, I've set uTorrent's disk cache size to 100MB, and tweaked some of the other settings to minimize disk access as much as possible. I download and seed 90% of my stuff to and from my terabyte external drive, and never had any problems.

A more general tip for external HDD users, always make sure it's operating in USB 2.0 mode, and don't disregard those "the device could work faster" pop-ups from Windows. If files are copied to that drive at 900kB/s, you know what the problem is.

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I was trying to keep it as simple as possible, in line with the topic, and I consider cache settings to be a more advanced method of dealing with poor performance. I dl directly to my externals too, but I also am in much less of a hurry than many of these speed demons that inhabit filesharing. Good stuff to know though.

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Oh, and last but not least...

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1440p ... Harry Potter 9?

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t

Some practical(not political) hints for BT:

1.) If you are downloading a pack, and it is going slowly, prioritize individual movies/episodes to enjoy some of the content in that pack before it is anywhere near finished. {especially useful trick if you actual consume the files you download}.

2.) When searching most trackers, use at least 4 characters, as most unaltered search functions require a minimum of four characters to actually do anything( this avoids the "omg I got 2000 results searching for 13" problems) Try including other parts of a common naming scheme like the format/year/group.

3.) Try not to download directly to cheap external hard drives if you can, as it's much harder on your hardware. Moving files from your main hdd to the external will generally be much quicker anyways. (this helps avoid many of the "disk overload" errors seen when dling, as well as constantly fluctuating speeds)

4.) Do not try download faster than your hardware can handle. (self explanatory) Honestly, you should always cap your download and upload speed to below your max speeds. This leaves you bandwidth for the rest of your internetting wants.

5.) Avoid brand new blockbusters on public trackers(safety first) These are the swarms that generally get the most attention from ip harvesting orgs.

6a.) Public Trackers - read the comments first. This is the best way to avoid infected/fake files. If you get a fake/infected file, LEAVE A FUCKING COMMENT!(sorry for yelling, I just really hate that more people don't warn others about bs files)
6b.) Private trackers - ignore the comments. If the file is borked, a decent private tracker will remove the bad versions, and beyond that there's no need for comments on the file itself.

7.) Learn how to use the advanced functions on your bt client, such as queing, moving dls on completion, schedules, limiters, rss feeds, as they can greatly assist your torrenting experience.

8.) Do not operate under the assumption that downloading from a private tracker makes you any safer than downloading from a public tracker, even if you are. (safety first) Always practice safe filesharing.

9.) If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. It's the internet people.That Inception.2010.1440p that was uploaded in 2008? Probably not real. Harry Potter 9? Probably a fake. Brand new leet tracker, with 170,000 torrents, and 1,000,000 members, that noone heard of before two days ago? Probably bs.

10.) Never ever ever believe that you need to download shit you don't want. That's horse crap, and if you feel a need to do so on a tracker, you probably don't need that site. I have yet to be on ANY site that was the only place/way to get a specific bit of media.(I will give an exemption for language specific trackers that are non-english)

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I should sticky this. Probably will do some kind of tutorial copy&pasting good tips found on this thread when the dust settles down.

Good stuff indeed.

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Originally Posted by bigdaddydude

Here are some tips. modified by bijoy

There are 2 types of users.. So, there will be 2 cases.. :lol:

Case 1: (for good users)
1. Use a seperate gmail account for all of your tracker invites (not your personal one) Comment: This is optional/half true. If you are registering in any well known/old tracker then use your preferred email. Use a saperate email ID while joining any new tracker which just come into the picture. So, 2 e-mail IDs are good. :)

2. Don't use the same user name twice Comment: ALWAYS use same username. Btw what's in the name? :idunno:

3. Learn Bittorrent, how to upload and SEED.

4. Don't cheat/trade.

5. Don't hang out in IRC or post much in forums Comment: Post in forums, when you need some serious info. now-a-days I can see irc become nothing more than a place to troll & ass licking. P.S. I don't know anything about bcg irc.. Never been there.. ;)

6. Always read the rules and FAQ

7. Do not download large packs first Comment: If they are freeleech then grab them if the seeder: leecher <= 4:5 (at least) <--- refer to snatchlist for more details like peer speeds, it is most imp, as it tells you the difference between active peers & partial snatchers.

8. Beware of the hot torrents

9. Respect the staff Do not respect, but behave politely with very few staffs, specially the veterans (generally, admin & sysops) of some old trackers..
Addition: always avoid mods, most of the cases they some some new 'active' members who got teh promotion.. Look their id number in the site to be sure.. If the id is less then its good, otherwise just avoid them those kids. :P

10. Make friends <-- this not really helps except for accidentally making friendship with someone who is hdbits vip *peace*...

Case 2: for other users who don't love to be a good user.

1. Use a seperate gmail account for all of your tracker invites (not your personal one) <-- very important.

2. Don't use the same user name twice <-- very important!!!

3. Learn Bittorrent, how to upload and SEED. Comment: Do you need to?

4. Don't cheat/trade. :whistling

5. Don't hang out in IRC or post much in forums

6. Always read the rules and FAQ Comment: don't waste your valuable time. :D

7. Do not download large packs first

8. Beware of the hot torrents <-- really, do you need to? :huh:

9. Respect the staff Comment: huh! who cares?? right? ;)

10. Make friends Comment: what's the use of it??

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blah blah blah can you shut the fuck up ;).

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Originally Posted by Daniel_30

blah blah blah can you shut the fuck up ;).

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Why the fuck are you here? Seriously. I have never once seen you contribute a goddamn thing, of any value, either knowledgeable or entertaining, to any topic here, ever. So why don't you stfu?

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Originally Posted by Daniel_30

blah blah blah can you shut the fuck up ;).

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did I hurt your feelings in my post?? specially the 2nd part? :naughty:

This is such a HOT topic.

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Originally Posted by anon_sbi

Agreed. :naughty:

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@ Daniel_30: consider this a warning regarding your participation at this board. As it was previously pointed out, all you do is random insults and attempt to start flame wars.
This is the only warning you will be getting.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_30

blah blah blah can you shut the fuck up ;).

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Actually, even though his post was written in a humorous way, I do agree on that it's mostly correct.

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Don't base your decisions by what people on tracker related websites tell you.

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Don't base your decisions by what people on tracker related websites tell you.

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As if any of us actually make decisions as opposed to mindlessly following nonadvice.

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Originally Posted by anon-sbi

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Originally Posted by Daniel_30

blah blah blah can you shut the fuck up ;).

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Actually, even though his post was written in a humorous way, I do agree on that it's mostly correct.

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But to me, Bijoy's post mostly is full of nonsense.

Try using Google Translate. :lol:

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Originally Posted by bijoy

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Originally Posted by Daniel_30

blah blah blah can you shut the fuck up ;).

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did I hurt your feelings in my post?? specially the 2nd part? :naughty:

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No you didn't, you say feelings! what feelings sorry dude this word doesn't exist on me , it's only in the women dictionary :lol:.

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Originally Posted by Cabalo

@ Daniel_30: consider this a warning regarding your participation at this board. As it was previously pointed out, all you do is random insults and attempt to start flame wars.
This is the only warning you will be getting.

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hehe Cabalo mentioned the "Insults-flame wars" especially when he keep going to insult the new members in the beginning ;) you make me lol'ed, try to warn yourself and respect all *Community shits" i'll not take that bullshits from you.


@anon : :yup: bijoy make me sick by his post, I hate those arrogants who behave as if they were gods speak what we must do and must not.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_30

hehe Cabalo mentioned the "Insults-flame wars" especially when he keep going to insult the new members in the beginning ;)

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I don't think I've ever seen Cabalo flame anyone in the insult sense of the word. And the few times he treated someone "roughly" was because they really deserved it.