Every site inspires members to seed , some just have nastier ways of doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
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Every site inspires members to seed , some just have nastier ways of doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
That's pretty cool and I commend you for it. Must be a great community there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
Most of us aren't members though so we got to deal with what we got. And what we have are a lot of trackers that have crappy retention rates. It's especially bad for the common 0day tracker that gets all the new scene releases and nothing much else. Unfortunately the vast majority of trackers are the general 0day type, so you'll find the same issues at most of them like older torrents being poorly seeded or dead. Or if whatever your looking for was never released by the scene or a p2p group it may just not exist. Really sucks when your looking for an old show or movie and you can't find it so you end up having to go to warez-bb or emule. Fortunately there are places like KG, cinematik, and some others that specialize in older movies and movies you won't usually find at other trackers.
The same problems can still happen at those trackers too, it's up to the members to decide how long they are going to seed something and eventually most torrents will die when the seeders lose interest in them. I know you can always request a torrent or a reseed if you need it that badly, its just not something I feel comfortable doing too often. Besides, requests won't always work if your whatever your requesting doesn't exist on somebody's hdd anymore. I guess thats real reason DDL is so popular and emule is still being used, for the most part nothing ever dies.
The phrase "forest for the trees " comes to mind here.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamesoverThat's pretty cool and I commend you for it. Must be a great community there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
I see a lot of trackers that have crappy retention rates, it's especially bad for the common 0day tracker that gets all the new scene releases and nothing much else. Unfortunately the vast majority of trackers are the general 0day type, so you'll find the same issues at most of them like older torrents being poorly seeded or dead. Or if whatever your looking for was never released by the scene or a p2p group it may just not exist. Really sucks when your looking for an old show or movie and you can't find it so you end up having to go to warez-bb or emule. Fortunately there are places like KG, cinematik, and some others that specialize in older movies and movies you won't usually find at other trackers.
The same problems can still happen at those trackers too, it's up to the members to decide how long they are going to seed something and eventually most torrents will die when the seeders lose interest in them. I know you can always request a torrent or a reseed if you need it that badly, its just not something I feel comfortable doing too often. Besides, request won't always work if your whatever your requesting doesn't exist on somebody's hdd anymore. I guess thats real reason DDL is so popular and emule is still being used, for the most part nothing ever dies.
Let's not get carried away .Change the statement to "we have a few members who genuinely seed because they want the community to prosper , quite a lot who do so to appear proper in the sight of the staff and the community at large and some who don't really give a fuck " as do coincidentally pretty much any other site and it would be nearer to the truth.
Those people who actually care but are largely unsung should be applauded everywhere , not just at "special places" like FSC.
Btw I'm not trying to slur FSC here but seems that you are either not giving some other sites enough credit or FSC too much.
holy cow, DV8 type posted :D
HBD
And here is me thinking this was supposed to be a birthday thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787The phrase "forest for the trees " comes to mind here.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamesover
Let's not get carried away .Change the statement to "we have a few members who genuinely seed because they want the community to prosper , quite a lot who do so to appear proper in the sight of the staff and the community at large and some who don't really give a fuck " as do coincidentally pretty much any other site and it would be nearer to the truth.
Those people who actually care but are largely unsung should be applauded everywhere , not just at "special places" like FSC.
Btw I'm not trying to slur FSC here but seems that you are either not giving some other sites enough credit or FSC too much.
Happy Birthday FSC and I just want to thank all the people who make it possible for this little spot on the web to keep on going on as a community of people who love sharing and caring about its members.
http://i53.tinypic.com/10ymbg2.jpg
:happy:
So you're that other seeder ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
Sorry FoX, I accidentally mentioned to Idol where the party was. I'll be more careful not to let it slip next time. :blushing:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
No, but they did open the invite application thread again. Mind you, chances of being invited that way are extremely low.Quote:
Originally Posted by geff_chang
The key to getting in there is to know someone who trusts you, and can give enough details about you to show that you could be potentially interesting/fun/valuable.
Following general rules of civility is expected- that includes being respectful in forums, as well as seeding, etc. Probably the biggest problem facing (most sites) would be members who get in, then don't contribute. With a club like this, there is an expectation that you will bring something to the site.
My advice- get involved on your favorite sites. Join in on the fun, the discussions, maybe even throw around some projects you are interested in. Then do them. Get to know people who share common interests some of these people may be able to conjure up an invite (usually granted as a favor return, etc...
Good luck- It isn't difficult IF you are trustworthy, active, interested, and interesting.
HBday FSC .... it's the best familiarity community in torrent's world indeed
Sorry and here me thinking it was a forum .Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoXAnd here is me thinking this was supposed to be a birthday thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Btw maybe admittedly bad form on my part and overlooking the fact that mine is but one of several "off-topic" comments but the only one deemed necessary to nit-pick at, sadly I'm pitifully poor at treacle.
Anyway , Happy Birthday FSC :yay: inanimate object impossible of either delight or regret, I hope this small symbol of my appreciation warms the coddles of the place your heart would be .
See not good .:mellow:
PS On the other hand, true appreciation to any and all that have given freely of their time or themselves in maintaining a place that is obviously not just a "job" or a "hobby" but rather a true labour of love.
heart-warming to know of such great achievements in internet file sharing.
well done TheFoX. huge admiration and respect to you. and everyone there who's made it what it is.
This is an awesome feat! I want to wish FSC a happy 6th birthday!!! I'm honored to be apart of the celebration, and hope there are many more years to come. Bravo FSC, Bravo!! :D
Oh, you sly, you. :shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by gamesover
Might simply be my being stupid blinding me to this, as usual, but you can't really "trust" anyone online. Especially not on a piracy website where the spectrum of people you can meet stretches from the side of "Out to sue my ass off for grabbing his copyright work" to "One of the people that are going to get sued and take down everything with them, eventually." It's commendable that FSC survived for so long, and that they pick great (?) members who keep their requests/retention ratios high, but at the same time, I really hate it when someone makes it sound like (especially in BT) a site can have the best possible members when it's locked down, or the fact that the pedantry when picking and choosing their members or how their invitees use their invites/referrals will actually promote venerable decisions (when all sites from all lvlz, do in fact know better), when the very fact that you're online and have never met the people you "trust" leads to a different conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
You can always argue that there are still people with emotions, opinions, dreams and lives behind the computer screens you're trolling; but then if you're such a person that readily opens up to people he's never met, I'm sure you'll have no gripes tipping 100% at a restaurant the next time, or taking the time to explain to a crack dealer that you know his childhood mustn't have been easy. Just because you're online doesn't give you an excuse to be nicer/meaner to people you normally wouldn't (people you haven't met), but it does give you several reasons (research source) to not trust people. Don't get me wrong, though, I'm not set on this opinion and I'll welcome to counter-arguments (and I've tried to keep this civil as this is a birthday thread after all); but please, don't throw in anymore "But I do trust the people I invited as I would trust my neighbor in real life" quotes. It just screams "idiotic".
Happy birthday, FSC.
P.S. Can I start one of these threads when ScT's birthday/funeral comes around? They do it for MLK Jr...
guess the meme is correct
haters gonna hate....
im quickly reminded why i dont come around here anymore lol
Of all the threads on FST I've seen, probably this one has the least hate and trolling...Quote:
Originally Posted by DV8type
Verbose way of stating the obvious- we don't fully know people online, so we cannot "trust" them. I would take that further-into real life, where people lie, cheat, and steal from those they know and/or work for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth RingsOh, you sly, you. :shifty:
Might simply be my being stupid blinding me to this, as usual, but you can't really "trust" anyone online. Especially not on a piracy website where the spectrum of people you can meet stretches from the side of "Out to sue my ass off for grabbing his copyright work" to "One of the people that are going to get sued and take down everything with them, eventually." It's commendable that FSC survived for so long, and that they pick great (?) members who keep their requests/retention ratios high, but at the same time, I really hate it when someone makes it sound like (especially in BT) a site can have the best possible members when it's locked down, or the fact that the pedantry when picking and choosing their members or how their invitees use their invites/referrals will actually promote venerable decisions (when all sites from all lvlz, do in fact know better), when the very fact that you're online and have never met the people you "trust" leads to a different conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
You can always argue that there are still people with emotions, opinions, dreams and lives behind the computer screens you're trolling; but then if you're such a person that readily opens up to people he's never met, I'm sure you'll have no gripes tipping 100% at a restaurant the next time, or taking the time to explain to a crack dealer that you know his childhood mustn't have been easy. Just because you're online doesn't give you an excuse to be nicer/meaner to people you normally wouldn't (people you haven't met), but it does give you several reasons (research source) to not trust people. Don't get me wrong, though, I'm not set on this opinion and I'll welcome to counter-arguments (and I've tried to keep this civil as this is a birthday thread after all); but please, don't throw in anymore "But I do trust the people I invited as I would trust my neighbor in real life" quotes. It just screams "idiotic".
Happy birthday, FSC.
P.S. Can I start one of these threads when ScT's birthday/funeral comes around? They do it for MLK Jr...
If one fits into the structure, it is likely they will be invited into the site when their name is placed in the proper thread.
Personally, I can think of 20 names I would risk accounts I enjoy/use daily based on my familiarity/comradery with some members here. It isn't foolproof, but so far I have not invites any "total losers". Even if someone who is known for taking care/responsibility with their invites makes qa mistake- if they are valuable themselves, it is unlikely they will be punishe4d for their error.
so much argument over some silly invite.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Darth RingsOh, you sly, you. :shifty:
Might simply be my being stupid blinding me to this, as usual, but you can't really "trust" anyone online. Especially not on a piracy website where the spectrum of people you can meet stretches from the side of "Out to sue my ass off for grabbing his copyright work" to "One of the people that are going to get sued and take down everything with them, eventually." It's commendable that FSC survived for so long, and that they pick great (?) members who keep their requests/retention ratios high, but at the same time, I really hate it when someone makes it sound like (especially in BT) a site can have the best possible members when it's locked down, or the fact that the pedantry when picking and choosing their members or how their invitees use their invites/referrals will actually promote venerable decisions (when all sites from all lvlz, do in fact know better), when the very fact that you're online and have never met the people you "trust" leads to a different conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
You can always argue that there are still people with emotions, opinions, dreams and lives behind the computer screens you're trolling; but then if you're such a person that readily opens up to people he's never met, I'm sure you'll have no gripes tipping 100% at a restaurant the next time, or taking the time to explain to a crack dealer that you know his childhood mustn't have been easy. Just because you're online doesn't give you an excuse to be nicer/meaner to people you normally wouldn't (people you haven't met), but it does give you several reasons (research source) to not trust people. Don't get me wrong, though, I'm not set on this opinion and I'll welcome to counter-arguments (and I've tried to keep this civil as this is a birthday thread after all); but please, don't throw in anymore "But I do trust the people I invited as I would trust my neighbor in real life" quotes. It just screams "idiotic".
Happy birthday, FSC.
P.S. Can I start one of these threads when ScT's birthday/funeral comes around? They do it for MLK Jr...
Haters ? Someone is not allowed to give their thoughts in a reasonably polite manner without being referred to /thought of as a " hater " .Quote:
Originally Posted by DV8type
Jesus H. Christ .
Forgive my frankness but as you so used to having your ass kissed that you can't take anything else as some sort of personal insult to be replied to in the most ignorant way possible .
And forgive me for also thinking that and not any real,discernible hatred might be in actuality the true reason that you "don't come around here anymore".
Btw the thing that I like least about the site in question is that so many members are quick to talk the talk but very few for far as I have seen , actually walk the walk. :ermm:
The same logic can be applied to you currently, but you know, some of us actually have opinions, and are open to counter-arguments (in case you didn't read my post: that was a point I stressed often). Let's hope that's not why you don't come around here anymore. :idunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by DV8type
Well your first point restated what I mentioned before. You shouldn't treat people online any less or more cordially than you would a person you aren't acquainted with in real life. So I don't see why you should use words like "trust" and "risk" when talking of something arguably much less than a friendship or relationship (obviously different with the way you define a friendship, but before you ask - it's when I do something with a person that involves both parties going out of their way or the context in order to be around one another, that I consider myself and someone else friends). However, I do really find it silly when people argue that they can fully trust people online (the same people that share who they are with people online thinking it couldn't possibly go wrong).Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Would you trust someone online to keep your wife and kids safe when you're away on a business trip (provided they offered to move into a nearby motel to attend to your family's every wish)? Then you don't "trust" them; and they aren't your "friends". Unless you define trust in a different way than I do, I don't see why you would associate the word with people online.
Glad you feel that way. I'd act like the ass that I usually am, but apparently people think I'm being just that (or more of a hater, actually) just by being around. So here's to this reply being as offensive as my usual self, minus all the drivel that would normally make it so.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrnobody
Huh???Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Rings
Anyways happy birthday fsc and sorry for the off-topic before.
I don't think there's been any haters in this thread, just people discussing things in a healthy civilized manner. No name calling, no personal attacks, just talk and differing opinions. Nothing wrong with that. My initial post actually complemented fsc, my comments were about other trackers in general and the lack of seeders/retention.
Certainly if you've been around fst long enough you should know that threads can quickly become about something other than what they started about.
i do enjoy and believe you not one of collector etc before, but my view change after you ask for scenehd. you certainly good at talking, but the real fact, you just same as others. accept the fact, dont condemn others.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamesover
lol. idd.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamesover
Cheers to those who believe in what we are trying to do. i salute thee.
:cheers:
Six long great prosperous years.
I e-trust you, my e-friend. e-:happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Rings
Asshole. I was trying to argue with you. Now I can't do that with you going easy on me. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
I'll just go with the assumption that you're just a lot more trusting than I could ever be.
P.S. It's "camaraderie" not "comradery".
there is already argument on this thread? :OQuote:
Originally Posted by Darth Rings
so i take back my word to gamesover than :cry:
Maybe he's a Communist:idunno:?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Rings
Damn, i was ready to party, but i see "invite me" posts undercovered. Party poopers.
Ohh, you sly one, youuuu...Quote:
Originally Posted by LeNoR
Great, now the irony of the full thread is lost. Sometimes I really do wish I could invite you to mininova, that way you don't ruin entire thread-long jokes that I have running.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnarkialOhh, you sly one, youuuu...Quote:
Originally Posted by LeNoR
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You were too blind due to your eyegasm to understand something, youuuuuu...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnarkialOhh, you sly one, youuuu...Quote:
Originally Posted by LeNoR
I wasn't talking about collecting, my whole post was about seeding and retention. But thanks for using this as an opportunity to attack me. I used to think you were a decent little spammer who i couldn't really understand most of the time, but after this post I view you as a jerk. I didn't call you out or say anything out of line in this thread, so what your saying seems completely unprovoked. Next time you request any tracker I'm going to go around everywhere shouting from the rooftops that your a collector, or maybe I won't because that would be a dick move, its none of my damn business what trackers you request, and afaik you could actually be using all your trackers. Speaking of dick, how much of that did you have to suck to become a recruiter for losslessworld. I like your new 'I love flac' signature, and i suppose you really can tell the difference between flac and mp3. Or maybe you just say your a flac lover because its the cool thing to say and it fits your position at that tracker.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottKi do enjoy and believe you not one of collector etc before, but my view change after you ask for scenehd. you certainly good at talking, but the real fact, you just same as others. accept the fact, dont condemn others.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamesover
And continue to post multiple times in every single thread here especially when your posts are usually pretty short (it must take so much effort to fit everything you have to say into ten words or less) and don't add much to the threads, because collecting a big postcount is so much better than collecting trackers.
Reference : http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/427929-ExigoQuote:
Originally Posted by gamesoverI wasn't talking about collecting, my whole post was about seeding and retention. But thanks for using this as an opportunity to attack me. I used to think you were a decent little spammer who i couldn't really understand most of the time, but after this post I view you as a jerk. I didn't call you out or say anything out of line in this thread, so what your saying seems completely unprovoked. Next time you request any tracker I'm going to go around everywhere shouting from the rooftops that your a collector, or maybe again I won't because that would be a dick move, its none of my damn business what trackers you request, and afaik you could be actually be using all your trackers. Speaking of dick, how much of that did you have to suck to become a recruiter for losslessworld. I like your new 'I love flac' signature, and i suppose you really can tell the difference between flac and mp3. Or maybe you just say your a flac lover because its the cool thing to say and it fits your position at that tracker.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottK
And continue to post multiple times in every single thread here especially when your posts are usually pretty short (it must take take so much effort to fit everything you have to say into ten words or less) and don't add much to the threads, because collecting a big postcount is so much better than collecting trackers.
He seems to have a twisted sense of what "collectors" means.
I was just pointing out that you were the first to put it into words without actually requesting an invite, while everyone's done the exact opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeNoRYou were too blind due to your eyegasm to understand something, youuuuuu...Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarkial
Also, to Fart Vader, you know full well that I deserve to be on Mininova, but it's just your own elite stuffiness that prevents you from inviting me, rather than my lack of resume *points at avatar* - I even know obscure movies like Avatar and have it in high aXXo quality because I encode myself using programs like Photoshop and Lame.
Don't waste your time. It's just another 0-Day tracker, hyped by its rarity and fake browse page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarkial
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Originally Posted by anon-sbi
I'll tell yah, it sure was a headache trying to figure out that fake page, what with the hidden text fields, that you need to enter your personal 256 character password into, to get to the login page where you have to use your 1024bit encrypted usb stick to get in. It really is disappointing when you get inside and only see 400 torrents :((in fairness though, they are exclusive as a motherfucker)
I hear OlegL got in, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
Again? :unsure: Next thing you know, he'll want to get back into Suprnova...:wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by AnarkialI hear OlegL got in, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
Intr4nsEdit: Oops, I mean S*******(security is essential)
Don't be a crybaby, you had it easy, being invited by the staff and all. Some of us have to provide a fingerprint and DNA sample to log in for 60 minutes (security).Quote:
Originally Posted by Intr4ns1t
Those 400 packs do make the whole thing worth it, though.