What would the Pharaohs think?

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Originally Posted by 999969999

Yeah! Take that Mr. YoYo!:)

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He and His nation has already taken Israel from you guys, what more could you want him to have?

@YoYoY: its for you mate :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQn2fGbyaPQ

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Originally Posted by clocker

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Originally Posted by 999969999

And you forgot to mention what you think of France using nuclear power for their electricity needs.

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I admit to being conflicted about nuclear power.
Given the absolutely horrific ecological record of normal public utilities, I sure as hell wouldn't let private industry have anything to do with it, so we're talking about government control...is that something you're good with?

A.P.S. is doing a fine job running Palo Verde. Who says private companies can't do it right?


I've yet to hear any solution to the waste issue either.
Apparently, Nevada isn't real hot on being the waste dump for the nation...maybe Eagar would like to step up?

Have you driven through southwestern Nevada-- from Las Vegas to Reno? There are tons of areas to dump nuclear waste and most of that area has no towns-- other than a few ghost towns along the way-- to complain about the dumping.

As for Eagar, there are a few areas north and also to the east where nobody has ever lived, and if done properly, nuclear dumping would not pose any significan threat to the town of Eagar. But why not dump it in an area that has hundreds and hundreds of miles of uninhabitable desert like southwestern Nevada.


And there is still the water issue- reactors need a LOT of water for cooling, so access to a reliable supply, either the ocean or rivers is required and that seriously restricts available locations.

Not really. Palo Verde uses toilet water from Phoenix. How green is that?!

http://www.aps.com/general_info/aboutAPS_18.html


This would require a major upgrade of transmission capability, again this means a coordinated national (i.e., gubmint) program.

So, as I said, conflicted.

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What I am saying is that we need to do something to get off all foreign oil and energy, to the point that when crappy little third world countries like Egypt start causing problems we can just sit back and ignore them and not care at all about what happens. What we're doing now is not working anymore and it is time for a change.

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Originally Posted by whatcdfan

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Originally Posted by 999969999

Yeah! Take that Mr. YoYo!:)

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He and His nation has already taken Israel from you guys, what more could you want him to have?

@YoYoY: its for you mate :)

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What?

I don't care about Israel. You can have them back, as far as I'm concerned.

Once we become energy self-sufficient, you can have the entire middle east back, and let it return to the way it was before we bought any oil from them, or cared about the area at all.

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Originally Posted by 999969999

What?

I don't care about Israel. You can have them back, as far as I'm concerned.

Once we become energy self-sufficient, you can have the entire middle east back, and let it return to the way it was before we bought any oil from them, or cared about the area at all.

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Dont resemble me that you are stupid enough to believe that you are the sole owner of the humanity somewhere in the depths of your confused mind.
As ironic as it may seems but true that you are talking like you (once again) solely own the middle east and the rest of the world and simultaneously complaining about the hike in the gas prices.

I thank you for explicitly displaying that the million of middle eastern Humans are only a commodity for you which you traded for a more profitable asset(in your opinion) i.e Energy

Also i would advise you to start caring about the Israel and jews as your ancestors did since last 2000 years or you may end up inhabiting on a planet with no gas/energy at all.

btw i would love to have that middle east back which it was in the medieval times, full of knowledge/peace/security/power/Modesty and also i would love to see you acting as the decoits and using all the brutality you could ( which includes eating up moslem children alive) to get hold of mere bounty by trying securing the trade routes from India and china

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Once we become energy self-sufficient, you can have the entire middle east back, and let it return to the way it was before we bought any oil from them, or cared about the area at all.

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The free market isn't going to make the country self sufficient, it would take a hardline government dictate on not just what fuel we use, but how we use it to achieve that.

Instead of bitching about the rest of the country, why don't you just go ahead and be energy self sufficient yourself? People do it, why haven't you, who has more resources available to achieve it, done so?

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Originally Posted by devilsadvocate

Instead of bitching about the rest of the country, why don't you just go ahead and be energy self sufficient yourself? People do it, why haven't you, who has more resources available to achieve it, done so?

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Good point. One of the things my grandparents are buying me, as sort of a bribe if you will, to get me to move to Oregon and attend the University of Oregon, is a Chevy Volt. As long as I just drive it around the town of Eugene, I won't need to fill it up with any gas. And if enough people did something like that, we could at least reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

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Originally Posted by 999969999

What?

I don't care about Israel. You can have them back, as far as I'm concerned.

Once we become energy self-sufficient, you can have the entire middle east back, and let it return to the way it was before we bought any oil from them, or cared about the area at all.

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Dont resemble me that you are stupid enough to believe that you are the sole owner of the humanity somewhere in the depths of your confused mind.
As ironic as it may seems but true that you are talking like you (once again) solely own the middle east and the rest of the world and simultaneously complaining about the hike in the gas prices.

I thank you for explicitly displaying that the million of middle eastern Humans are only a commodity for you which you traded for a more profitable asset(in your opinion) i.e Energy

Also i would advise you to start caring about the Israel and jews as your ancestors did since last 2000 years or you may end up inhabiting on a planet with no gas/energy at all.

btw i would love to have that middle east back which it was in the medieval times, full of knowledge/peace/security/power/Modesty and also i would love to see you acting as the decoits and using all the brutality you could ( which includes eating up moslem children alive) to get hold of mere bounty by trying securing the trade routes from India and china

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???

You're saying that my Austrian ancestors ate Muslim children alive? Not very likely.

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Good point. One of the things my grandparents are buying me, as sort of a bribe if you will, to get me to move to Oregon and attend the University of Oregon, is a Chevy Volt. As long as I just drive it around the town of Eugene, I won't need to fill it up with any gas. And if enough people did something like that, we could at least reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

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Yeah, that screams energy self sufficiency. :noes:

You have land, cattle and natural resources. You have the ability to go off the grid. You have the ability to produce your own energy supply. You don't have to be innovative, others have already given you a model to work from.


You could even produce your own fuel for transportation.

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which includes eating up moslem children alive

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You're saying that my Austrian ancestors ate Muslim children alive? Not very likely.

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Alive? That's a bit over the top, IMO. To get any real flavor, they need to be salted. I would offer some additional, more modernized ingredients, but I will forgo culinary advancements in favor of a more "traditional" recipe.


EDIT- Alright, one hint... finding the right oil will bring out a nuttiness you will have to experience first-hand to believe.

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Originally Posted by 999969999

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You're saying that my Austrian ancestors ate Muslim children alive? Not very likely.

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If you cannot do any better then those question marks, why the fuck you were yelling for the YoYoY to show up :huh:

btw i am not surprised to see, with your limited intelligence that is the only point you could address from my post

As for the eating part, i will still make you suck your dick,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_12
This is only what i could find with little search, for the full story look for the history channel documentary of the first crusade or the book titled "The book of Saladin"

I wonder if Mubarakis is deliberately refusing to step down in order to provoke riots so he can use it as justification to use force to crack down on the protesters

That would be a logical strategy if he thought he had enough outside support to weather the inevitable chaos that would ensue.
I don't think he does, all his fellow mid-East strongmen must be treading carefully to avoid sparking similar populist uprisings at home and overt support for Mubarik might be the genesis for their own ousters.

It's lonely at the top.

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Originally Posted by 999969999

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You're saying that my Austrian ancestors ate Muslim children alive? Not very likely.

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If you cannot do any better then those question marks, why the fuck you were yelling for the YoYoY to show up :huh:

btw i am not surprised to see, with your limited intelligence that is the only point you could address from my post

As for the eating part, i will still make you suck your dick,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_12
This is only what i could find with little search, for the full story look for the history channel documentary of the first crusade or the book titled "The book of Saladin"

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No thanks, that's what my Fräulein is for.

I still don't see where you have provided any proof about my ancestors eating Muslim babies.

I could see that working. With the proper spices. Maybe some sage.

Maybe flambéed. Kittens for garnish.

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Originally Posted by 999969999

I still don't see where you have provided any proof about my ancestors eating Muslim babies.

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I give up, Sorry, Cant wake the one who is not sleeping but pretending to be sleeping

btw the part of my post about your limited intelligence still stands.

This Shit is over, people, dont forget to tune into Sarah Palin's Alaska "Hosni Mubarak's Sahra" :D

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Originally Posted by whatcdfan

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Originally Posted by 999969999

I still don't see where you have provided any proof about my ancestors eating Muslim babies.

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I give up, Sorry, Cant wake the one who is not sleeping but pretending to be sleeping

btw the part of my post about your limited intelligence still stands.

This Shit is over, people, dont forget to tune into Sarah Palin's Alaska "Hosni Mubarak's Sahra" :D

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A few points:

*Propaganda and demonising one's opponents in a war isn't a new invention, so anything written by either side with regards to the accounts of cannibalism during the crusades should be taken with a a pinch of salt.

*It's not getting any truer just because some scraggly-bearded douchebag fanatics living in the arsehole of the world have picked that up as proof of how evil europeans and or americans today are. In fact, it loses credibility.

*It's completely possible to be descended from europe and not be related to any of the Tafurs or Franks or whatever it was who were supposed to have practiced cannibalism during the crusades. The odds are probably good that most of europe is.

*Pointing towards crimes commited during the dark ages is a really shoddy way of arguing, unless we're arguing about why people did things then. Not to mention that anyone living today, descendant of whoever, probably has more common with people living on the other side of the planet, than anyone living then.

*Arguing without having a grasp of the language puts you at a disadvantage to begin with. When you sound like you've been wrung through babelfish and have come out swearing to boot, you sound like twice the jackass.

*Spouting someone else's propaganda whilst telling people to open their minds is something else than clever.


It probably goes without saying, but you're an idiot.

As for Egypt, what's going on there reminds me a lot of what happened in Tchekoslovakia in 1989.

If they get it right they might well join the modern world properly.

That would mean keeping religion and state properly apart, and not putting any of the boys letting the side down over in the BT section near power, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBBJdZrpJH0

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Is it not enough what you've done?
With all the bloodshed you've caused
Yet your greed drives you on
In your brutal race for acquisition
No land is left untouched
Driven by a vile ambition
To have the whole world in your clutch
Every single new addition
To your slave colony
Does nothing to dull your ambition
To leave no nation free
It is indeed a sad condition that you suffer from
This itching desire for a prime position
To have all under your thumb

Not in my name will you fight
Not in my name will you kill
Not in my name will you burn a child
Not in my name will you lie
Not in my name will you invade
Not in my name will you rape
Not in my name will you terrorise
Not in my name will you lie

I warn it's time to take heed
One day you'll find yourself pursued
By every person you've made bleed
You thought they'd been subdued
You were wrong
You were wrong
They've been freed
They've been freed

Against your evil methods of violence and intimidation
Against your hijacking and misinterpretation
Of my peaceful faith and revelation
I shout with billions in this demonstration

Not in my name will you fight
Not in my name will you kill
Not in my name will you burn a child
Not in my name will you lie
Not in my name will you invade
Not in my name will you rape
Not in our name
Will you dare to speak again
Not in our name

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Evil Has a new name, I assume you dont like being summoned to the crimes your nation has/is committing so you probably would not have a big enough heart to see the full video so for my convenience i have also put it into words

For all your life, you are trying to engineer the people's morality/mentality/style of living, its disheartening to see you are only left with the reward of telling people who they are and where they live.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is american, idiot.

I'm guessing America's what that shitty song is meant to be about.

I can see that the price of gas is going up. This is probably going to kill any economic recovery that was in the works. Not good.