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11-14-2003, 03:59 AM
Busyman

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Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@14 November 2003 - 03:17
oh wow if you run so low on words you can always flip open a dictionary, no need for stfu :P

anyways this topic is open for discussion i dont need to keep opinions to myself.

if you are so narrow minded about other ppl's opinions i suggest you turn off ur computer, go outside and yell "ooooosa" to strangers. Believe me, it'll do you some good ;)

Uhhh.......no

It's your uneducated opinion because of marketing bullshit that I crap on. You remind of all folks that say Microsoft has harmed the public AFTER there was a case brought against them. Get off the bandwagon.
Test the product first smart guy........or else your "opinions" are good for nothing.
They are shit that doesn't even stink. No purpose. <_<
11-14-2003, 04:19 AM
james_bond_rulez

oh i have used norton, it's not any better than sygate or zonealarm.

it's all the same shit in different packages. However i am just trying to point out that zonealarm has been thoroghly tested by computer security experts and is ranked first on steve's website. and it's also what i recommand to ppl if they ask which firewall to use.

your attempt to bash my opinion was purely personal and unfounded. this forum would be better off without all the flaming and bashing and let the freedom of opinions flow.

uneducated opinion? i dont think so.

However if you wish to contine on this pointless exchange of flames and bashing so be it but you are wasting your time and my time.
11-14-2003, 04:28 AM
muchspl2

you can't import the bad ip list into norton without putting them in 1 at a time, that alone kills them for me
/.02
11-14-2003, 05:37 AM
trillscout

Thank you guys (james bond+busyman) both. That was a very informative
argu...um I mean discussion :D by the way is za compatiable with norton in any way
and where can I get a hardware firewall?

I ? norton's credibity after I found out I had a virus that AVG found but
Norton AV couldn't.
11-14-2003, 05:42 AM
james_bond_rulez

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Originally posted by trillscout@14 November 2003 - 05:37
Thank you guys (james bond+busyman) both. That was a very informative
argu...um I mean discussion :D by the way is za compatiable with norton in any way
and where can I get a hardware firewall?

I ? norton's credibity after I found out I had a virus that AVG found but
Norton AV couldn't.

i am glad you pointed that out

i had norton corp antivirus installed however when i switched to trend micro i found server viruses/worms on my computer when norton wasn't able to detect prior.

never installed another norton antivirus again...
11-14-2003, 05:54 AM
muchspl2

I left out my utter contempt for norton av as this was pertaining to firewall, norton av sucks a phat one and your better off not run a av if you run norton, well not really, but too many norton drones in general
several times people I know have been compromised by virii and trojans using symatic products, don't believe the norton hype as far as firewall that works fine other than my original complaint about the bad ip list
11-14-2003, 07:40 AM
nostalgia

Norton is highly over rated cause of their slick GUI's and cause manufacturers deliver a Norton product if you buy their pc.
For myself I use ZA PRO and Sygate PRo5 in turns.
They both do their work good. Also both were splendid in the leaktest and portprobe (shields up) at http://www.grc.com
But nevertheless I also have a anit-virus, anti-trojan and spy-adware removers. Unfortunately there isn't a programm that combines it all with good results.
11-14-2003, 08:04 AM
james_bond_rulez

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Originally posted by nostalgia@14 November 2003 - 07:40
Norton is highly over rated cause of their slick GUI's and cause manufacturers deliver a Norton product if you buy their pc.
For myself I use ZA PRO and Sygate PRo5 in turns.
They both do their work good. Also both were splendid in the leaktest and portprobe (shields up) at http://www.grc.com
But nevertheless I also have a anit-virus, anti-trojan and spy-adware removers. Unfortunately there isn't a programm that combines it all with good results.

nicely summed up :lol:
11-14-2003, 11:24 PM
h121589

wut r firewalls and wut do firewalls do
11-14-2003, 11:32 PM
muchspl2

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Originally posted by h121589@15 November 2003 - 00:24
wut r firewalls and wut do firewalls do

http://members.cox.net/dodger1954/slap.gif

you need one almost as much as a constant running AV
11-15-2003, 12:38 AM
The Kiler

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Originally posted by h121589@14 November 2003 - 18:24
wut r firewalls and wut do firewalls do

A firewall makes it HARDER for a hacker to compromise your computer.
11-15-2003, 12:46 AM
3223

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Originally posted by muchspl2@14 November 2003 - 05:54
I left out my utter contempt for norton av as this was pertaining to firewall, norton av sucks a phat one and your better off not run a av if you run norton, well not really, but too many norton drones in general
several times people I know have been compromised by virii and trojans using symatic products, don't believe the norton hype as far as firewall that works fine other than my original complaint about the bad ip list

i cant understand what ur tryin to say!! plz explain better (im very very tired!)
11-15-2003, 12:51 AM
3223

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Originally posted by 3223@13 November 2003 - 20:59
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?

any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_<
11-15-2003, 06:32 PM
3223

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i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?

any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_< [/b][/quote]
i downloaded nortons and it lokks alot better than sygate but the problem is it wont let me gon on the internet or check my emails! <_< any1 know what i should do to fix this (change settings, etc.). thanks alot!

ps im on the net right now cause i disabled the firwall!
11-15-2003, 07:42 PM
3223

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@13 November 2003 - 20:59
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?

any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_<

i downloaded nortons and it lokks alot better than sygate but the problem is it wont let me gon on the internet or check my emails! <_< any1 know what i should do to fix this (change settings, etc.). thanks alot!

ps im on the net right now cause i disabled the firwall! [/b][/quote]
i found out how to change settings to go on the internet but i still cant check my email! SOME PLZ HELP MEEEEEEEE!
11-15-2003, 09:54 PM
Mik3ll

Right now, I use ZA plus, I dont like pro. But I have a feeling inside me that wants me to change to Sygate.

I think I will test it out, which should I get? The free version or pro?
11-15-2003, 09:58 PM
Mik3ll

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@13 November 2003 - 20:59
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?

any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_<

i downloaded nortons and it lokks alot better than sygate but the problem is it wont let me gon on the internet or check my emails! <_< any1 know what i should do to fix this (change settings, etc.). thanks alot!

ps im on the net right now cause i disabled the firwall!

i found out how to change settings to go on the internet but i still cant check my email! SOME PLZ HELP MEEEEEEEE! [/b][/quote]
I say uninstall norton, and install Sygate. And it doesnt depend on how it looks, its how good it is.
11-15-2003, 10:43 PM
james_bond_rulez

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Originally posted by Mik3ll@15 November 2003 - 21:54
Right now, I use ZA plus, I dont like pro. But I have a feeling inside me that wants me to change to Sygate.

I think I will test it out, which should I get? The free version or pro?

always *always* get the pro ;)
11-16-2003, 12:56 AM
Supernatural

Yup... Pro all the way. Not to take anything away from the home version, because it's also great.
11-16-2003, 01:13 AM
3223

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@13 November 2003 - 20:59
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?

any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_<

i downloaded nortons and it lokks alot better than sygate but the problem is it wont let me gon on the internet or check my emails! <_< any1 know what i should do to fix this (change settings, etc.). thanks alot!

ps im on the net right now cause i disabled the firwall!

i found out how to change settings to go on the internet but i still cant check my email! SOME PLZ HELP MEEEEEEEE!

I say uninstall norton, and install Sygate. And it doesnt depend on how it looks, its how good it is. [/b][/quote]
i like it cause it has anti ad and spam programs built in. it a good program i just can chat on aol instant messanger, check email with outlook express, i fixed the internet settings, also Sharaza wont connect!! any1 that has Norton Internet Security know how to change my settings so that all my programs will work?
11-16-2003, 01:22 AM
Mik3ll

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@13 November 2003 - 20:59
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?

any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_<

i downloaded nortons and it lokks alot better than sygate but the problem is it wont let me gon on the internet or check my emails! <_< any1 know what i should do to fix this (change settings, etc.). thanks alot!

ps im on the net right now cause i disabled the firwall!

i found out how to change settings to go on the internet but i still cant check my email! SOME PLZ HELP MEEEEEEEE!

I say uninstall norton, and install Sygate. And it doesnt depend on how it looks, its how good it is.

i like it cause it has anti ad and spam programs built in. it a good program i just can chat on aol instant messanger, check email with outlook express, i fixed the internet settings, also Sharaza wont connect!! any1 that has Norton Internet Security know how to change my settings so that all my programs will work? [/b][/quote]
Make a new thread for this, more people would then know you have the problem.
11-16-2003, 01:35 AM
muchspl2

after all that has been said, you still want norton :o

your choice I guess <_<
11-16-2003, 01:46 AM
JohnD

How can something so small as these other firewall be better than Norton firewall, which is so big in size?
Is there anything that Nortion Firewall can do in terms of firewall that these other smaller firewalls cannot do?
Is there anything that these other smaller firewalls can do that Norton firewall cannot do?
Can I run both Nortong firewall and Sygate or Norton and Zonealarm at the same time to test and see what i like?
I tried Norton Firewall 2003 and it blocked so much that I had so many problems that I went back to Norton Firewall 2002. I had difficulty just getting on the internet, staying on the internet, visiting certain websites, downloading and sharing fiile--Norton 2003 headache.
My other question is, what is the best antivirus program in terms of protection?
11-16-2003, 01:55 AM
Mik3ll

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Originally posted by JohnD@16 November 2003 - 01:46
How can something so small as these other firewall be better than Norton firewall, which is so big in size?
Is there anything that Nortion Firewall can do in terms of firewall that these other smaller firewalls cannot do?
Is there anything that these other smaller firewalls can do that Norton firewall cannot do?
Can I run both Nortong firewall and Sygate or Norton and Zonealarm at the same time to test and see what i like?
I tried Norton Firewall 2003 and it blocked so much that I had so many problems that I went back to Norton Firewall 2002. I had difficulty just getting on the internet, staying on the internet, visiting certain websites, downloading and sharing fiile--Norton 2003 headache.
My other question is, what is the best antivirus program in terms of protection?

I wouldn't run 2 firewalls at once, it can freeze your computer.

Take a look at this tread and it explains different antiviruses somewhere in the thread http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=56265
11-16-2003, 03:33 AM
3223

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Originally posted by 3223+15 November 2003 - 00:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3223 @ 15 November 2003 - 00:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@14 November 2003 - 05:54
I left out my utter contempt for norton av as this was pertaining to firewall, norton av sucks a phat one and your better off not run a av if you run norton, well not really, but too many norton drones in general
several times people I know have been compromised by virii and trojans using symatic products, don't believe the norton hype as far as firewall that works fine other than my original complaint about the bad ip list

i cant understand what ur tryin to say!! plz explain better (im very very tired!) [/b][/quote]
@muchspl2 did u read my post? PLZ EXPLAIN UR MOST BETER!

also i have sygate and got norton firewall just to try it out. its good except for my complaint.
11-16-2003, 03:53 AM
Mik3ll

Well, I tried Sygate Pro, but I didnt like it, I dont know why though.
11-16-2003, 03:54 AM
Poolplayer34

Zone Alarm is the best by FAR IMO
11-16-2003, 06:51 AM
Infested Cats

http://grc.com/lt/scoreboard.htm
11-16-2003, 08:31 AM
Busyman

I like ZA Pro first, then Norton.
Sygate is a FAR third.
ZA Pro is the best and I've tried all 3.
11-16-2003, 10:49 AM
james_bond_rulez

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Originally posted by Busyman@16 November 2003 - 08:31
I like ZA Pro first, then Norton.
Sygate is a FAR third.
ZA Pro is the best and I've tried all 3.

yeah now you say that *cough* *cough* ;)
11-16-2003, 10:51 AM
james_bond_rulez

yay 1000 posts!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
11-16-2003, 02:44 PM
3223

im gonna try zone alarm pro for myself. ive used sygate and norton. now ZA turn.
11-16-2003, 10:27 PM
Busyman

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Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+16 November 2003 - 10:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 16 November 2003 - 10:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@16 November 2003 - 08:31
I like ZA Pro first, then Norton.
Sygate is a FAR third.
ZA Pro is the best and I've tried all 3.

yeah now you say that *cough* *cough* ;) [/b][/quote]
So what!!
I never said that Norton was my choice firewall. I said that it is a good firewall because I HAVE used it. READ. You sir are an idiot.
And that's based on having read your posts. ;)

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yay 1000 posts!!!!!

Furthermore........WHO CARES!!! <_<
Go get a life. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. :lol:
11-19-2003, 10:21 PM
3223

does any1 have a crack for ZA 4.5 PRO? if u do plz PM it 2 me! THANKS!!
11-19-2003, 10:36 PM
muchspl2

there is no crack, goto freeserials.(0m
get a serial # for it
11-19-2003, 10:57 PM
3223

i went to the ZA site i think i have 2 pay before i can download ZA Pro 4.5! if so then whats the point of a serial? is it only possible 2 get the basic version or what? plz help ASAP!
11-19-2003, 11:23 PM
LTJBukem

Zonealarm 4.5.530 has just came out. I know this because i have a legal version of ZA Pro and i got a dialogue today prompting me to update. Your best bet is to download the free version, then get a key to unlock the Pro features (you will have to wait a little while). You will not be able to crack registration which is needed for auto updates, as you don't have an account on Zone Labs server.

My opinion is that since people have access to all this free software, they spend far too much time chopping and changing products. Norton, Zone Alarm, Sygate, whatever. Choose one then be happy with it, they are all great products. Switching all the time just messes up your system, then you find you have problems; how did this happen you ask!! What makes you think that hackers are going to target you anyway? If they did then no software firewall will stop a profficient hacker, it will however block all the scripts, port scans and internet 'noise'.

Same for AV's, Norton does just fine, AVG great, nod32 great if you can crack it. The reason most people report infection while using norton, is probably because most people are using Norton. You yourself must adopt common sense practices to avoid infecting your system. Theres a pinned topic on that subject.

:)
11-20-2003, 01:10 AM
3223

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Originally posted by LTJBukem@19 November 2003 - 23:23
Zonealarm 4.5.530 has just came out. I know this because i have a legal version of ZA Pro and i got a dialogue today prompting me to update. Your best bet is to download the free version, then get a key to unlock the Pro features (you will have to wait a little while). You will not be able to crack registration which is needed for auto updates, as you don't have an account on Zone Labs server.

My opinion is that since people have access to all this free software, they spend far too much time chopping and changing products. Norton, Zone Alarm, Sygate, whatever. Choose one then be happy with it, they are all great products. Switching all the time just messes up your system, then you find you have problems; how did this happen you ask!! What makes you think that hackers are going to target you anyway? If they did then no software firewall will stop a profficient hacker, it will however block all the scripts, port scans and internet 'noise'.

Same for AV's, Norton does just fine, AVG great, nod32 great if you can crack it. The reason most people report infection while using norton, is probably because most people are using Norton. You yourself must adopt common sense practices to avoid infecting your system. Theres a pinned topic on that subject.

:)

i found the 30 day trial for 4.5.530 and (racked it. thanks. i like ZA more than my sygate. should i delete sygate or just delete it?
11-20-2003, 01:18 AM
muchspl2

do you ask to goto the bathroom?

if you like za, keep it, if you don't, get rid of it
its already been stated not to run 2 firewalls at once
11-20-2003, 01:34 AM
boyzeee

:D now the heat seems to died down on this thread :o i will stick my nib in the ink ;) i use norton av and firewall 2003 and imo they do a fine job :o ive never been hacked or got a virus and they integrate into systemworks which makes things nice n simple. yes i know they are a bit of a resource hog :rolleyes: but that isnt an issue for me and its not so much that you would really notice anyway ;)

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