Legalizing drugs.

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

People were more prejudice against drugs in 1950s, 1960s. Drugs being then part of the "counterculture" and seen as an act of rebellion .Someplace around 1970-1980 they became tied to the club scene and casual sex. Now suburban soccer Moms do drugs as they are just another quick and easy way of making the World go away.

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Well, in the 1960s, many people were against the hippie counter-cultural rebellion, but educated middle class people were not strongly opposed to drugs.

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Originally Posted by OlegL

You know, sometimes I wish I had lived in the 1950s, 1960s, or 1970s when people were less prejudiced against drugs.

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If this were the 1950s, 1960s, or 1970s... you'd have to get a job. :fear:

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Well, in the 1960s, many people were against the hippie counter-cultural rebellion, but educated middle class people were not strongly opposed to drugs.

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And you know this to be true exactly how?:mellow:

Seeing you were born in the mid 80's like.

megabyteme, well, as you know, I am on SSI, and, as far as I know, Social Security was created when Roosevelt was President in the 1930s...
IdolEyes, someone who lived during that era told me that people were less prejudiced against drugs than they are now.

There are a lot of vested interests who would stand to lose a lot of money if recreational drugs were legalized -- and I don't mean the street-corner drug dealers.

Imagine the police departments laying off their entire narc division and quitting buying all that expensive SWAT gear (which is used almost exclusively for drug raids) causing the companies that make those products go broke. There would be a lot fewer people in prisons, so those multi-billion dollar prison-construction and service industries would take a big hit.

Like it or not, the criminal 'justice' system forms a major part of our economy. Because the prohibition on drugs keeps a lot of people employed and makes a lot of money for a lot of corporations, so it should come as no surprise that whenever proposals come up for legalizing/decriminalizing drugs -- such as California's recent Proposition 19 -- there is always heavy lobbying and campaigning against it.

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megabyteme, well, as you know, I am on SSI, and, as far as I know, Social Security was created when Roosevelt was President in the 1930s...
IdolEyes, someone who lived during that era told me that people were less prejudiced against drugs than they are now.

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Yes, but your bullshit "diagnosis" would not have received any money.

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megabyteme, well, as you know, I am on SSI, and, as far as I know, Social Security was created when Roosevelt was President in the 1930s...
IdolEyes, someone who lived during that era told me that people were less prejudiced against drugs than they are now.

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Wouldn't that assumption be totally dependent on his/her personal experience?
I'm taking a stab in the dark here but I would guess tha a Berkeley college student and a farmer from Idaho would probably have two different stories to tell.

Btw I'm telling you that they weren't so who you gonna believe?

Remember Canadians don't lie.

Remember Canadians who aren't politicians don't lie.

Well, IdolEyes, since you are one of the most intelligent people on this board, I believe you. :)

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Originally Posted by OlegL

Well, IdolEyes, since you are one of the most intelligent people on this board, I believe you. :)

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I'm not sure he's ever demonstrated that, though he's never claimed any intelligence either. What exactly did you choose to believe in now?

I believe him when he says that many folks were prejudiced against drugs during the psychedelic era of the 60s. And speaking of IdolEyes, he has never made any dumb posts on this board; that's why I believe he's intelligent.

I'm also a flower child and know about stuff like this.

And by stuff I mean pointless comments.

Even on a bad day I am smarterer than mjmacky though.

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Well, IdolEyes, since you are one of the most intelligent people on this board....:)

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I am also smort enough to know the phrase "Damning with faint praise"

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Even on a bad day I am smarterer than mjmacky though.

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Another thing I like about Idol is his sense of humor.

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Even on a bad day I am smarterer than mjmacky though.

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Another thing I like about Idol is his sense of humor.

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We can't all be autistic savants. Good thing too.

Altho' I'd like to be one for a day. Very much like I'd want a vagina for a day.
I'd cram as much stuff as I could fit into my new brain/vagina til the early onset of haemorrhage.

The experience would improve me as a person, I think :eyebrows:

I would have been in heavy praise of the label "autistic savant", but some of the qualifications had to be stretched to match what I do (which is why I ultimately didn't endorse it). Not that I don't have anything against the types, they're quite entertaining.

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Another thing I like about Idol is his sense of humor.

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We can't all be autistic savants. Good thing too.

Altho' I'd like to be one for a day. Very much like I'd want a vagina for a day.
I'd cram as much stuff as I could fit into my new brain/vagina til the early onset of haemorrhage.

The experience would improve me as a person, I think :eyebrows:

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That might be stretching it a bit.
If nothing else at least you'd have a good story to tell the Grand-kids.
Those were the salad days.

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Another thing I like about Idol is his sense of humor.

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We can't all be autistic savants. Good thing too.

Altho' I'd like to be one for a day. Very much like I'd want a vagina for a day.
I'd cram as much stuff as I could fit into my new brain/vagina til the early onset of haemorrhage.

The experience would improve me as a person, I think :eyebrows:

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Squeamous can give you some tips on cramming things into orifices. The weed whacker is still missing in action last I heard :fear:

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Btw I'm telling you that they weren't so who you gonna believe?

Remember Canadians don't lie.

Remember Canadians who aren't politicians don't lie.

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Well, maybe Canadians don't lie, but the author of this thread sometimes acts like a complete dumb ass and he's Canadian. :)

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Well, maybe Canadians don't lie, but the author of this thread sometimes acts like a complete dumb ass and he's Canadian. :)

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He's also the one who stole the weed whacker...

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Squeamous can give you some tips on cramming things into orifices. The weed whacker is still missing in action last I heard :fear:

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haha

keep them illegal so i can feel like a big man when i go into our bathroom or communal garden to do them.

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

I would have been in heavy praise of the label "autistic savant", but some of the qualifications had to be stretched to match what I do (which is why I ultimately didn't endorse it). Not that I don't have anything against the types, they're quite entertaining.

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Au contraire. It's just that you so perfectly fit the behaviour patterns of an autistic savant (albeit a high functioning one). At first the fact you claimed to be well liked and sociable gave me some trouble, until I realised socialising to you is just another formula into which you plug a set of variable parameters.

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I think that one has legs, Sq. :happy:

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I would have been in heavy praise of the label "autistic savant", but some of the qualifications had to be stretched to match what I do (which is why I ultimately didn't endorse it). Not that I don't have anything against the types, they're quite entertaining.

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Au contraire. It's just that you so perfectly fit the behaviour patterns of an autistic savant (albeit a high functioning one). At first the fact you claimed to be well liked and sociable gave me some trouble, until I realised socialising to you is just another formula into which you plug a set of variable parameters.

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Your social/related ones kind of might work off handedly, but I'll highlight the ones that you were stretching. I feel if you spent some more time constructing the argument, you could have made it work.

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Think about it: good with maths, ability to drone on and on with meticulous verbosity on subjects of no interest to anyone else, obsessive attention to detail, able to function socially only through a series of learned routines rather than through any real empathy. I could go on but suffice it to say:

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Your qualifier is based on subject matter, of which I stick to interesting topics (without delving into pop culture too much). Obsessive attention to detail was also forced. Though I pick at technical details and literal nuances, it's usually to annoy someone rather than a driven interest. The context of these things matter.

I could certainly make a much more successful argument, but then I'd be doing all the work for you. I can't imagine a reason I'd ever be inspired to do that.

There is one other problem, Tom Cruise is alive in all those scenes. There's no way I'd permit that.

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Originally Posted by OlegL

Well, maybe Canadians don't lie, but the author of this thread sometimes acts like a complete dumb ass and he's Canadian. :)

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He's also the one who stole the weed whacker...

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He's a retard.

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Originally Posted by Darth Rings

Apart from the occasional Belgian beer and French wine, I have no vested interest in any narcotic drug.

It has become apparent to me that residents of this forum are at the very least knowledgeable on the subject, so now I'd like to find out what the argumentative hype is. To the extents of my knowledge and professional social circles, I know of no one who supports this movement, with direct relation to the substances at hand themselves, with an annual salary higher than 5 grand a year (I'm just rounding up) (Unit of measurement: Mexican Pesos).

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Well here is one person. Annual salary higher than 200 grand (in swiss franks). Weed is widespread here but alas a legalization referendum 2 years ago failed by 45/55%. Estimated # of users is 1 million on a population of 8 million. Police hardly give it any attention. I grow my own (4 plants a year) while having a wife and 2 teenage kids and a good (IT) job at a bank. There are many like me.

We do not harm anyone, there is no reason to persecute us and even less to lock us away (society would collapse).

The question should never be why to legalize something, but why to prohibit something. Prohibition is not a normal state of things and should be underpinned with extremely good arguments before starting such a blunt policy.

I don't want to go into the details here (there are numerous other forums on the topic elsewhere), but at least for weed there are 0 arguments to have it outlawed. Everything behind the prohibition is based upon lies and caused by vested interests.

Although I have nothing with harder drugs, never used them and never intend to do so even once, I think that prohibitions net effects even for these substances are negative and people and society would be better of without prohibition. Instead, you need health care, regulation and education.

b.t.w. I donate quite a bit to various legalization movements (and to the EFF and other organizations that fight for civil liberties).

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Your social/related ones kind of might work off handedly, but I'll highlight the ones that you were stretching. I feel if you spent some more time constructing the argument, you could have made it work.

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I would, but I'm afraid I'm not an autistic savant and so just don't have that kind of obsessive attention to detail.
Obsessive attention to detail like this:

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Think about it: good with maths, ability to drone on and on with meticulous verbosity on subjects of no interest to anyone else, obsessive attention to detail, able to function socially only through a series of learned routines rather than through any real empathy. I could go on but suffice it to say:

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Your qualifier is based on subject matter, of which I stick to interesting topics (without delving into pop culture too much). Obsessive attention to detail was also forced. Though I pick at technical details and literal nuances, it's usually to annoy someone rather than a driven interest. The context of these things matter.

I could certainly make a much more successful argument, but then I'd be doing all the work for you. I can't imagine a reason I'd ever be inspired to do that.

There is one other problem, Tom Cruise is alive in all those scenes. There's no way I'd permit that.

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You either saved my comment for future reference or you went all the way back through the threads to find it. You couldn't just paraphrase. But then paraphrasing would require a level of social/conversational dexterity you don't possess. Rainman.

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I also think it's cute that Mary thinks that the untalented glebe on An Idiot Abroad is an autistic savant.
Only an autistic savant would think such a thing. Trufax.

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I also think it's cute that Mary thinks that the untalented glebe on An Idiot Abroad is an autistic savant.
Only an autistic savant would think such a thing. Trufax.

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I think he put that meme up simply because he knows we're English and was trying to find an English reference we might be able to relate to :smilie4:

Can someone tell me when she apologises so I can take her off ignore. kthnx

I thought Mary was Macky? Confused.

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I thought Mary was Macky? Confused.

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Mary is macky and your previous comment was both insightful and witty - manker, however, isn't English.

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You either saved my comment for future reference or you went all the way back through the threads to find it. You couldn't just paraphrase. But then paraphrasing would require a level of social/conversational dexterity you don't possess. Rainman.

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I went back, I'm careful like that. Also, it was incredibly easy since that thread was already open in another tab, and my settings max out # posts per page. Cabalo hates that I do that.

About the other thing you suggested, it would be totally pointless to make my own index of posts made by myself or other people since that's a function inherent in a forum's design! I almost want to bold all of that and go all caps. Another neat trick, just do an advanced search typing at least one word you remember, and specify username, the results come back in a very relevant fashion. That's how, earlier today, I found my posts messing with some person wanting to trade for CartonChaos.

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I also think it's cute that Mary thinks that the untalented glebe on An Idiot Abroad is an autistic savant.
Only an autistic savant would think such a thing. Trufax.

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The reason I brought Karl into this is because I once uttered the near redundancy of "autistic savant", literally, while describing Mr. Pilkington. My first perception when watching the Ricky Gervais show was that he was just an absolute moron. Then I started thinking he's probably developmentally disabled. In continuation of the new assumption, I started finding his perspective uniquely fascinating. He has a sort of purely logical perspective unencumbered by critical thought, like a child, but with the life experience of an adult.

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I thought Mary was Macky? Confused.

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Mary is macky and your previous comment was both insightful and witty - manker, however, isn't English.

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That's all find and dander, but who the hell are you?

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The reason I brought Karl into this is because I once uttered the near redundancy of "autistic savant", literally, while describing Mr. Pilkington. My first perception when watching the Ricky Gervais show was that he was just an absolute moron. Then I started thinking he's probably developmentally disabled. In continuation of the new assumption, I started finding his perspective uniquely fascinating. He has a sort of purely logical perspective unencumbered by critical thought, like a child, but with the life experience of an adult.

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Nah, he's just a northerner (we say what we like and we like what we bloody well say).
If your diagnosis is correct then Lancashire and Yorkshire possess the same autistic savant to non-autistic savant ratio as the area twixt your monitor and the chair-back.

You do have me at a disadvantage, however. I downloaded series one and got halfway thro' the first ep before I decided that it was a shite travel show not worthy of my attention.

Manker isn't English? You mean I've allowed myself to thaw to a virtual stranger? I feel sullied.

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I went back, I'm careful like that. Also, it was incredibly easy since that thread was already open in another tab, and my settings max out # posts per page. Cabalo hates that I do that.

About the other thing you suggested, it would be totally pointless to make my own index of posts made by myself or other people since that's a function inherent in a forum's design! I almost want to bold all of that and go all caps. Another neat trick, just do an advanced search typing at least one word you remember, and specify username, the results come back in a very relevant fashion. That's how, earlier today, I found my posts messing with some person wanting to trade for CartonChaos.

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Is there anything else you'd like to say before they take you back to your room? I might not be able to come and visit you for a little while. Wanna touch heads maybe? Have a 'moment'?

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The reason I brought Karl into this is because I once uttered the near redundancy of "autistic savant", literally, while describing Mr. Pilkington. My first perception when watching the Ricky Gervais show was that he was just an absolute moron. Then I started thinking he's probably developmentally disabled. In continuation of the new assumption, I started finding his perspective uniquely fascinating. He has a sort of purely logical perspective unencumbered by critical thought, like a child, but with the life experience of an adult.

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He's not clever enough, that's why it's 'autistic savant'. He's just autistic. Anyway, since when did the lunatics start diagnosing the asylum? Get back in your cell.