I use sunnyusnet 900 days Retention very cheap prices. also have a block account with Newsgroupdirect and also have a block account with astraweb.
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I use sunnyusnet 900 days Retention very cheap prices. also have a block account with Newsgroupdirect and also have a block account with astraweb.
Ok thanks for the suggestion.
I vote suppernews
Newsgroupdirect with Astraweb as a back up.
Frugal works for me, I go with the cheaper year deal to avoid monthly. It's more risky in case the service deteriorates, but it's been working fine for me for over a year. The retention is reasonable.
usenet has been good for me
astraweb was great for years then started having issues occasionally usenet has been 0 issues
I've been using SunnyUsenet for two years now. Perfect service, super cheap :-) .
Use newshosting here which are doing a special at the moment but still no where near as cheap as Frugal, might have to give them a try
I use tweaknews 10Mbit special offer, 9.95 EURO for 3 months.
I am reasonably happy with http://www.sunnyusenet.com/
it's € 3,83 p/m :cool:
I have been with Astraweb for a few years, never had any problems.
Another vote here for Astaweb ;)
does anyone know if sky or bt have free access to news servers the same as virgin?
I think that BT has a free news server but it's speed capped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain
to the sunnyusenet users: Any idea if it has more take downs than tweak? I read a lot of good comments about usenetbucket and was ready to switch but it had way more take downs than tweak when I tried their free trial.
I just get blocks from newsgroupdirect, seems to be the best option for me.
I'm using UsenetBucket, the completion rate is fairly good and I hardly ever run into takedowns, but they are there on occasion. Mostly with really popular movie releases. Was a Giganews member for years until they got nazi-fied with the takedowns.
tweaknews.eu
I pay by the gigabyte, but I am really only a passive user.
great retention
Tweaknews for backup here on a block account... Seems to notice a few mixing articles with them so jumped to another provider
I have good experience with sunnyusenet, not many takedowns lately, but there was a period when a lot of fresh stuff was removed
I just use some of the free newsgroups and rely on sick beard to grab stuff fast. If there is anything older I grab a trial account from a variety of places and use that. Don't have much trouble that way and don't pay a dime.
Im looking for a cheap provider to add on with Astraweb so I can get faster speed, any recommendations?
40Mbit Usenetbucket would be around $4.60/month with a 25% off coupon, if that's still good. Nice to have a Euro server as a backup to an American company.
wheres the coupon?Quote:
Originally Posted by justlooking
http://slickdeals.net/f/6780400-usen....net+Forums%29Quote:
Originally Posted by fpsfreakwheres the coupon?Quote:
Originally Posted by justlooking
Yes some of those free providers provide decent retention 850-1665 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by flyinonice
Using Giganews, recommend, but more expensive than most
Cheapest is xennanews , it's FREE
test.xennanews.com
no username or password required
Interesting. What are retention, maximum connections and speed like on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stabber
I'd really like to know what are you using for an ISP, and what is the route (do a tracert) from you to Astra(US/EU).Quote:
Originally Posted by vigor5000
Most providers are at the same number of connections (20) as Astra, I easily 'swamp' my 30Mb/s with running 15 and I have swamped it with 10 (but keep at 15, leave 4+ for additional connex to EU server or for Blocknews 'when SABnzbd thinks it's 'necessary')
This is on Docsis3, not fiber (fiber in my area is literally one block away but they won't 'wire' my cul-de-sac due to back-room deal with Comcrud).
I'm 850+ miles from the Astra/US plant, as the fiber runs. And I go through a VPN on top of that (great server from that provider).
So until I see your route, I don't know why you're getting poor service speed/transfer wise.
More: Just fer fun, I needed to suck down a nice BD50 today, and set my SABnabD down to less than the usual (15) connections, and didn't see the throughput start to be affected (<30Mb/s) until I got below 8 connections. With 6, it was obvious.
Now, you also didn't say what kind of machine you are using, in my case, it's a 4-core AMD/P2 Black 3200Mhz+ with fair (not top of the line) ram, but top line WD/Black HD drives, and an older (for today, top line when built 5 years ago) Asus MB w/ gigabit lan. In short, for today, pretty middle or even below middle of the road. Yes, stuff gets 'old'. Not my 'best' machine, but those that are better are busy with other, more CPU intensive tasks ( recode city).
Maybe I got good internet (for what I throw at Comcrud every month I should!). I lust for fiber. I MAY move this summer onto FIOS so we shall see.
Sorry for the late reply, so I have Docsis3 cable internet too(150/10) and I did a tracert to the US SSL host and was wondering why it gives me a 207.246.207.xxx address and sometimes a 216.151.153.xxx address.I have a OCed quad core and using WD BLack + SSD's so thats not the issue,although I used to have problems with the repair + unrar stopping my downloading on my Seagate drive.I signed up with a UNS Holdings reseller for the times I cant max out my connection, helps on Sunday nights.Just curious why do you use Giganews? when there are cheaper alternatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck38I'd really like to know what are you using for an ISP, and what is the route (do a tracert) from you to Astra(US/EU).Quote:
Originally Posted by vigor5000
Most providers are at the same number of connections (20) as Astra, I easily 'swamp' my 30Mb/s with running 15 and I have swamped it with 10 (but keep at 15, leave 4+ for additional connex to EU server or for Blocknews 'when SABnzbd thinks it's 'necessary')
This is on Docsis3, not fiber (fiber in my area is literally one block away but they won't 'wire' my cul-de-sac due to back-room deal with Comcrud).
I'm 850+ miles from the Astra/US plant, as the fiber runs. And I go through a VPN on top of that (great server from that provider).
So until I see your route, I don't know why you're getting poor service speed/transfer wise.
More: Just fer fun, I needed to suck down a nice BD50 today, and set my SABnabD down to less than the usual (15) connections, and didn't see the throughput start to be affected (<30Mb/s) until I got below 8 connections. With 6, it was obvious.
Now, you also didn't say what kind of machine you are using, in my case, it's a 4-core AMD/P2 Black 3200Mhz+ with fair (not top of the line) ram, but top line WD/Black HD drives, and an older (for today, top line when built 5 years ago) Asus MB w/ gigabit lan. In short, for today, pretty middle or even below middle of the road. Yes, stuff gets 'old'. Not my 'best' machine, but those that are better are busy with other, more CPU intensive tasks ( recode city).
Maybe I got good internet (for what I throw at Comcrud every month I should!). I lust for fiber. I MAY move this summer onto FIOS so we shall see.
Code:traceroute to ssl-us.astraweb.com (216.151.153.11), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 10.406 ms 6.714 ms 6.281 ms
2 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 9.096 ms 11.296 ms 7.716 ms
3 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 11.115 ms 12.883 ms 11.538 ms
4 10ge7-4.core1.tor1.he.net (209.51.164.81) 15.284 ms 7.855 ms 16.899 ms
5 100ge13-1.core1.chi1.he.net (184.105.80.5) 20.531 ms 18.469 ms 17.972 ms
6 10ge3-2.core1.den1.he.net (184.105.213.86) 43.525 ms 42.934 ms 10ge11-4.core1.pao1.he.net (184.105.222.173) 72.350 ms
7 * * *
8 eqx-ix.sj.astraweb.com (206.223.116.89) 73.017 ms 71.576 ms 71.307 ms
9 unknown.sj.astraweb.com (216.151.153.11) 69.902 ms 74.682 ms 71.296 ms
Code:traceroute to ssl-us.astraweb.com (207.246.207.130), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 7.471 ms 7.326 ms 9.885 ms
2 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 10.132 ms 10.714 ms 11.881 ms
3 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 12.255 ms 12.402 ms 14.530 ms
4 10ge7-4.core1.tor1.he.net (209.51.164.81) 9.237 ms 10.639 ms 7.976 ms
5 100ge13-1.core1.chi1.he.net (184.105.80.5) 17.674 ms 20.040 ms 22.840 ms
6 10ge11-4.core1.pao1.he.net (184.105.222.173) 78.819 ms 69.494 ms 10ge3-2.core1.den1.he.net (184.105.213.86) 51.222 ms
7 10ge13-5.core1.sjc2.he.net (184.105.213.105) 82.466 ms 70.621 ms 72.004 ms
8 eqx-ix.sj.astraweb.com (206.223.116.89) 72.589 ms 71.417 ms 72.991 ms
9 207.246.207.130 (207.246.207.130) 73.488 ms 71.595 ms 84.006 ms
Code:traceroute to ssl-us.astraweb.com (216.151.153.21), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 8.631 ms 8.017 ms 11.217 ms
2 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 7.724 ms 11.060 ms 11.923 ms
3 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 12.196 ms 10.761 ms 7.882 ms
4 10ge7-4.core1.tor1.he.net (209.51.164.81) 8.048 ms 15.439 ms 7.789 ms
5 100ge13-1.core1.chi1.he.net (184.105.80.5) 17.508 ms 24.999 ms 18.585 ms
6 10ge11-4.core1.pao1.he.net (184.105.222.173) 78.869 ms 70.312 ms 10ge3-2.core1.den1.he.net (184.105.213.86) 43.807 ms
7 10ge13-5.core1.sjc2.he.net (184.105.213.105) 70.509 ms 70.753 ms 68.901 ms
8 eqx-ix.sj.astraweb.com (206.223.116.89) 131.413 ms 197.555 ms 203.877 ms
9 unknown.sj.astraweb.com (216.151.153.21) 72.809 ms 84.839 ms 69.993 ms
I have am extremely low-end GigaNews account that you can't even buy anymore (grandfathered) for $2/month. It's what I use to 'test' propagation from Astra block account used to post, leaving my 'unlimited' Astra account open for whatever ('leech'). This is account specs (particularly the Astra block account) what you'll find most serious uploaders use.
Astra/US 'flips' which feeds you are being 'fed' with every few hours, so that any Tier1 provider doesn't feel like they are being 'hammered' particularly. I see mine change from Level3 to Comcast to Congentco and that's just the last 30 miles from my hosting facility (VPN) in SF to the Astra facility in San Jose. Now of course, it still runs on whatever Comcrud uses for their main connectivity (mostly Level3 in these parts), so from the 'local loop' here to SF is over their plaint (I helped redesign lots of Level3 on the West Coast from Seattle to San Diego about 15 years ago, probably been done yet again for sure since).
I rarely find that Hurricane Electric is 'in the mix', although they are Headquartered right there in Fremont CA (used to live there years ago). One would think that isn't quite the problem, but if that's your ISP's 'main squeeze' for internet connectivity, you may be stuck with them; this may be 'fallout' from not having decent net neutrality laws in this country.
Once (if ever) I get on fiber, things may change (different provider, 2-3 times the speed I have now at half the cost). But if that's your main constriction (what looks like Toronto to Chicago to Palo Alto to San Jose) there may be some 'squeeze' going on there, most probably in the Toronto to Chicago loop. It was better than 20 years ago I did work on fiber coming out of Toronto 'going south' so it's really out of date. But Hurricane 'may' be routing things wrong, they could be sending your traffic out Toronto through Winnipeg BACK to Chicago then out to Palo Alto, who knows (not going through routers in Winnipeg, simply what's called a wavelength point to point connection, perhaps because the Toronto to Chicago waves are 'full up'.
Only someone either at your ISP or Hurricane would 'know fer sure'. But over the years, folks in the north land have always had problems of one type of another.
So the reason why I get slow speeds sometimes is because "Hurricane 'may' be routing things wrong, they could be sending your traffic out Toronto through Winnipeg BACK to Chicago then out to Palo Alto".So since the plant is far away and because of the routing this is normal then for me to experience slow speeds ,and there is no solution?When it is slow I got to use more then 10 connection to make it faster.
vigor5000, is your reverse traceroute identical? http://www.news.astraweb.com/tools/tracepub.cgi
Secondly, have you tried running connections to both the US & EU sides simultaneously? Like a ghetto load balancer. Start 50/50 and then bias the # of connections whichever way provides the greatest speed.
Knowing, of course, that the route would be Toronto through NYC then out to the trans-Atlantic fiber systems (most landing stations these days are either on Long Island or New Jersey shore vrs Rhode Island 'back in the day', those stations are mostly now shut down w/ cables decommissioned.
Also, since Sept11, every big interconnection point in NYC has been rebuilt a couple of times (from WTC1/2 sub-basement which was the largest fiber interconnect in the world at the time, some building in NJ is supposed to be now, between North Bergen/Union City and Fort Lee if I'm not mistaken, and probably am) but all should be super-speed at this point. As long as your bits can get OUT of Toronto in decent fashion.
For me, Cogentco redid a bunch of wave connections (multiple 100G) across the US to SF a couple years back, and that really helped connecting to Astra/EU. I await someone to redo them again to multi-Terabit.
He has a goodly amount of bandwidth from the ISP. I could be that fast but I simply won't pay the $300+/month to Comcrud, when the fiber is 1/2 to 1/3'rd that. I REALLY got to move.
Hey ya it looks the same but I used the SSL server hostname to do tracert too it, don't know if it matters.I have tried using US and EU at same time but I was doing 10 connections each,I will try lowering the connections and see how it works out,at the moment I am having no speed issues getting 16-17MB/s.Exactly one week ago I was experiencing slow speeds on Astra,Supernews,Newsdemon(slowest to highest speed) I switched through the different providers and increased the connections but could not get more then 3-5MB/s on astra and like 6-8MB/s on Supernews and then was able to get 10-14 MB/s on Newsdemon , this lasted for few hours till I was able to get full speed on lower connections.I tried my Usenetbucket free account out durig that time too and was able to get full speeds no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by piercerseth
Code:Traceroute from us.news.astraweb.com:
Hostname Best Worst Avg
0 gw.eqnx.sj.astraweb.com (216.151.153.1) 0.28 0.36 0.32
1 10gigabitethernet2-3.core1.sjc2.he.net (206.223.116.37) 1.39 6.03 3.30
2 10ge5-2.core1.pao1.he.net (72.52.92.69) 1.98 12.30 6.71
3 10ge12-8.core1.chi1.he.net (184.105.222.174) 53.01 93.01 70.11
4 100ge9-2.core1.tor1.he.net (184.105.80.6) 62.76 94.62 73.20
5 10gigabitethernet3-1.core1.tor1.he.net (xxx.xx.xxx.xx) 62.23 62.87 62.57
6 (xxx.x.xxx.xx) 63.57 67.40 65.51
You know, the one thing that hasn't come up in this conversation, is the possibility that the ISP is throttling usenet traffic; where changing the port you are using (SSL or non-SSL) may help. Astra does support a couple of really non-standard ports on both SSL/non-SSL transmissions.
Another 'work around' (especially since you are crossing an international border) is a VPN service. The best ones (paid) are excellent speed wise (so far and according to unsolicited reports the one I use is good to go for 1Gb/s fiber speeds) but of course add to overall costs. But try swapping the ports around if you already haven't.
Using a VPN router means ALL the traffic you generate goes through the VPN, your ISP and even intermediate carriers don't know squat about what your traffic is or the destination, until it reaches the outgoing port at (changeable) city X. I wouldn't use a cable internet service without it, and haven't since the day I got off DSL several years ago.
Anyway, it's yet some more thoughts; it's probably pretty frustrating not to get the speeds you're paying for (probably through the nose). When I see my 'shared' cable service speeds take a dive every evening as the working folk get home and fire up their links, even though I'm on a 'commercial' line and paying dearly for it, I grind my teeth and know I've got to get off my rear and MOVE to fiber. It will happen, just got to get all the ducks in order so that all the costing results in, at the end of the day, lower pricing all around (energy, internet, taxes, etc.).
I have tried switching the ports around,I get better speeds on 443.I have also tried a VPN but the best speed I got with it was 4MB/s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck38
4MegaBYTES or 4MegaBITS. Don't fall into the Euro trap of confusing the two. If 4Mb/s (BITS) then it was a pretty poor excuse for a VPN service, although even 4MBYTES/S (which would equal 32Mbits/s) would still be pretty poor. The service I use has been tested by folks with FIOS (>300Mb/s symmetrical in the eastern US) and with those with 1Gb/s download (various non-Google fiber around the US) with excellent results. But I'll admit that both the client h/w (VPN router plus accelerator) is a bit steep (>$700US) and the cost for the service is >$20/month. So not cheap by any means. I have the VPN router sans accelerator which is about half that h/w cost, and can add the second accelerator part later on when I get on fiber.Quote:
Originally Posted by vigor5000
People have tended to call me a bit 'nuts', but I tell them, as I'm retired, that it all keeps me 'off the streets'. (!)
Yes 4MegaBYTES, usually I see it like MB/s or MiB/s. Well i guess since it was a $5 vpn service I wouid only get that kinda speed.What VPN provider are you with if you don't mind sharing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck384MegaBYTES or 4MegaBITS. Don't fall into the Euro trap of confusing the two. If 4Mb/s (BITS) then it was a pretty poor excuse for a VPN service, although even 4MBYTES/S (which would equal 32Mbits/s) would still be pretty poor. The service I use has been tested by folks with FIOS (>300Mb/s symmetrical in the eastern US) and with those with 1Gb/s download (various non-Google fiber around the US) with excellent results. But I'll admit that both the client h/w (VPN router plus accelerator) is a bit steep (>$700US) and the cost for the service is >$20/month. So not cheap by any means. I have the VPN router sans accelerator which is about half that h/w cost, and can add the second accelerator part later on when I get on fiber.Quote:
Originally Posted by vigor5000
People have tended to call me a bit 'nuts', but I tell them, as I'm retired, that it all keeps me 'off the streets'. (!)