As you wish. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@26 November 2003 - 01:27
Works for me.
Soda on the side?
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As you wish. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@26 November 2003 - 01:27
Works for me.
Soda on the side?
I like the bubbles.
They become absolutely fascinating after just the right amount of W.T.-
Beyond that, and they're just plain difficult to see. :blink:
Beyond that, I don't care. :P
Gonna be fun, sho' 'nuf.
We'll have to behave, though.
You-know-who will be watching us critically, I think. :D
She doesn't drink.
A paragon of virtue, no doubt.
Will we be banished to the porch?
Certainly not.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@26 November 2003 - 01:48
A paragon of virtue, no doubt.
Will we be banished to the porch?
She's concerned for me, and won't allow me to desecrate my temple in your name.
We must get her to care about you, too. :lol:
I hope you two are gonna take photos, the two of you together is an oportunity not to be missed. At least PM me one.
As for Yanks; I've met heaps of them travelling, some "stereotypical" some not. There does seem to be an arrogant air about some Americans, much like the English. They are yobbish, nationalistic, and couldn't give a fuck what you think, America is best at everything; as I say, much like the English, some of them anyway
Others are as nice as pie, and blend in with everyone, have the same thoughts and desires, the same ups and downs.... and always "up for it".
One trait I find hard to cope with from a lot of nations, and America is one, is an air of condescension towards countries like Australia, we're treated like little kids who live somewhere "far away" in a cute little country with kangaroos running through the streets. You half expect them to offer you a lolipop!
The Yanks on this board are a wide spread also, but no more than any other nation. And the triumvirate here, you know who you are, have helped to make this place "the" place to be.
Now, your government, on the other hand ....
:)
I would kill to go "down under". :)Quote:
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@26 November 2003 - 02:08
I hope you two are gonna take photos, the two of you together is an oportunity not to be missed. At least PM me one.
As for Yanks; I've met heaps of them travelling, some "stereotypical" some not. There does seem to be an arrogant air about some Americans, much like the English. They are yobbish, nationalistic, and couldn't give a fuck what you think, America is best at everything; as I say, much like the English, some of them anyway
Others are as nice as pie, and blend in with everyone, have the same thoughts and desires, the same ups and downs.... and always "up for it".
One trait I find hard to cope with from a lot of nations, and America is one, is an air of condescension towards countries like Australia, we're treated like little kids who live somewhere "far away" in a cute little country with kangaroos running through the streets. You half expect them to offer you a lolipop!
The Yanks on this board are a wide spread also, but no more than any other nation. And the triumvirate here, you know who you are, have helped to make this place "the" place to be.
Now, your government, on the other hand ....
:)
Just about got to Sydney for the games, but events intervened.
That wouldn't have counted, anyway; hard to see what's real at an Olympiad.
I understand why people do Europe, and I'd like to do that, too, but if I had the same urge that leads people to the Caribbean (and I do, just not the money), my ass would be flying to Aussieland, you damn betcha'. ;)
I've been around enough people to know that commonality of experience does not in any way correlate with the asshole/non-asshole ratio.
That's always pretty static.
Billy-
If Clocker brings his cam, we'll see about some pictures-I would think he's already got that little beauty packed.
Many studies indicate Americans (especially those in their mid-teens-specifically 15 year-olds) are developmentally challenged with regard to their ability to interact gracefully in cyberspace. ;) [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4+25 November 2003 - 16:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 25 November 2003 - 16:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Arm@25 November 2003 - 10:08
<_< Americans are dumb motherfuckers I agree. I am also 15 years old and an American. :D
B) Good for that study. I can act alot better in cyberspace then alot of people.
You just don't!Quote:
Originally posted by Arm@26 November 2003 - 17:56
B) Good for that study. I can act alot better in cyberspace then alot of people.
:)
That must really get under your skin to see them talking as if they were as intelligent as you. I could see how that would bother you.Quote:
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@26 November 2003 - 06:08
I hope you two are gonna take photos, the two of you together is an oportunity not to be missed. At least PM me one.
As for Yanks; I've met heaps of them travelling, some "stereotypical" some not. There does seem to be an arrogant air about some Americans, much like the English. They are yobbish, nationalistic, and couldn't give a fuck what you think, America is best at everything; as I say, much like the English, some of them anyway
Others are as nice as pie, and blend in with everyone, have the same thoughts and desires, the same ups and downs.... and always "up for it".
One trait I find hard to cope with from a lot of nations, and America is one, is an air of condescension towards countries like Australia, we're treated like little kids who live somewhere "far away" in a cute little country with kangaroos running through the streets. You half expect them to offer you a lolipop!
The english people I've met while traveling explained to me something I had been curious about-the accents. That people living only miles away in England would speak differently from each other, because the country is so rich and diverse. The opposite of "common" and "homogenous". Well, America is not quite that diverse. I mentally divide the U.S. into 3.5 "sections". Yes, i meant to say "3.5", because one section is only a "half section". First there is the south, which stretches from the virginas, west to Missouri, then down to Louisiana, and the states encompassed as well. Then there is the midwest, which counts for a "half". It includes the states of Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, South Dakota, North Dakota, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. The west stretches from Texas, up north to Nebraska, then even further north and to the west to Montana, then west to Washington state, and the encompassed states as well. All other states belong in the northeast. The northeast is the unfortunate home to the traditonal stereotypical "yanks", complete with accents.Quote:
As for Yanks; I've met heaps of them travelling, some "stereotypical" some not. There does seem to be an arrogant air about some Americans, much like the English. They are yobbish, nationalistic, and couldn't give a fuck what you think, America is best at everything; as I say, much like the English, some of them anyway
Others are as nice as pie, and blend in with everyone, have the same thoughts and desires, the same ups and downs.... and always "up for it".
One trait I find hard to cope with from a lot of nations, and America is one, is an air of condescension towards countries like Australia, we're treated like little kids who live somewhere "far away" in a cute little country with kangaroos running through the streets. You half expect them to offer you a lolipop!
Does America consider itself better than Australia, as a whole, yes. So I don't disagree with BD on that one, it's true. Even though I've never been to his country, I do realize it's not some cute little country with kangaroos running wild everywhere. I realize that many Australians, because of the geographic makeup up the country, live within a certain distance from the ocean. So when I think of Australia, I think of beaches, surfing, ect....
:blink:
Are you putting Washington state and Texas in the same "area?"
:ninja:
What an interesting mental picture of the US you have MS.
Personally, I would divide the States into three areas: the East coast, the West coast and that amorphous mass in the middle, best labeled-"Here there be monsters"*. :P
* Except for Colorado of course...that would be labelled-"Here there be skiing and Kobe Bryant".
texas is a problem because if you don't cut states up, you can't easily put it in one of those 3.5 areas without people saying "hey! :angry: texas don't belong there". I've been to Texas many times. It's damn huge. Eastern texas could be part of the south. West texas could be part of the west, as it is in my proposal. So it's a matter of size.Quote:
Originally posted by MagicNakor@26 November 2003 - 14:03
:blink:
Are you putting Washington state and Texas in the same "area?"
:ninja:
@Clocker, you would seriously put people from new mexico in the same category as people from wisconsin? those cheezy midwesterners sometimes even talk with that ever-so-loveable canadian accent. not only that, the attitudes are different. as for colorado, the first time i passed through the front range, i thought i was in paradise. blackhawk city, ect.... i especially liked the cool air coming up from the streams, as a result of the snowmelt. very scenic.
Cheezy midwesterners?
Hey son, I was born in Wisconsin.
i meant it literally ;)
You do realize that to a certain extent this is due to the way your Tourist Board markets Australia to the rest of the world?Quote:
Originally posted by Billy_Dean@25 November 2003 - 23:08
One trait I find hard to cope with from a lot of nations, and America is one, is an air of condescension towards countries like Australia, we're treated like little kids who live somewhere "far away" in a cute little country with kangaroos running through the streets. You half expect them to offer you a lolipop!
Babes in bikinis, that Animal Planet weirdo and "Put another shrimp on the barbie" are the images pushed at us from your own marketing geniuses.
Maybe a quick ring on the phone would straighten them out...
B) Good for that study. I can act alot better in cyberspace then alot of people.[/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by Arm+26 November 2003 - 04:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Arm @ 26 November 2003 - 04:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@25 November 2003 - 16:15
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@25 November 2003 - 10:08
<_< Americans are dumb motherfuckers I agree. I am also 15 years old and an American. :D
Many studies indicate Americans (especially those in their mid-teens-specifically 15 year-olds) are developmentally challenged with regard to their ability to interact gracefully in cyberspace. ;)
Would you, then?
Drop the third-person act, too, if you're going to spend time in here.
We are (most of us) adults who, if forced to spend time with children, prefer those children exhibit extraordinary talent in the area of acting OUR age.
Arm, just to clarify...Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@26 November 2003 - 09:17
We are (most of us) adults who, if forced to spend time with children, prefer those children exhibit extraordinary talent in the area of acting OUR age.
"Our age"= "near death", which explains the extreme morbidity and tendency to gloom around here.
j2..what "third person act"?
There is a bit of truth in what everyone has said about the US's "geographic demographic", but I think it can be more easily understood by breaking it down into an urban/suburban/rural construct.
Toss the accents, which don't mean anything.
Go from the urban, where such things as "tradition" are "quaint" or "quirky" through suburbia, out to the rural, where tradition is "everything".
Go from the urban, where continued "enlightenment" is the rule, again out through suburbia to the rural, where enlightenment is "urban".
Exceptions exist, of course, but there're your delineations, culturally and otherwise.
Or, to qualify even further...
Urban= Black, Hispanic and Asian
Suburban= White
Rural= a couple of Amish families
Hope this helps :D
QUOTE (j2k4 @ 26 November 2003 - 09:17)
We are (most of us) adults who, if forced to spend time with children, prefer those children exhibit extraordinary talent in the area of acting OUR age.
Arm, just to clarify...
"Our age"= "near death", which explains the extreme morbidity and tendency to gloom around here.
Morbidity? Gloom? Near death?
Speak for yourself, sir.
j2..what "third person act"?
Arm has, in other threads, adopted a sort of "Bo knows baseball" thing. It was irritating.
Clocker overstates, however slightly. :DQuote:
Originally posted by clocker@26 November 2003 - 12:39
Or, to qualify even further...
Urban= Black, Hispanic and Asian
Suburban= White
Rural= a couple of Amish families
Hope this helps :D
I am not Amish. :P
I can see your point there Clocker, Australia years ago was promoted as the "Outback" country, deserts, scrub, Ayres Rock, etc. When my mates came here in the 60's I wasn't interested, India was as far as I got. Now it's being promoted as a beach'n'barbie lifestyle. Maybe they are just trying to give people what they don't have in their own countries.
BTW, the attitude I was alluding to was more the patronising type, not necessarily intended, but there none the less.
:)
I would love to speak only for myself, but I represent a large and rabid constituancy which clamors for a voice.Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@26 November 2003 - 09:42
Morbidity? Gloom? Near death?
Speak for yourself, sir.
Oh.Quote:
Arm has, in other threads, adopted a sort of "Bo knows baseball" thing. It was irritating.
BTW, does Bo "know baseball"?
I mean, I thought she was good in "10" and all...
Yes, she does-Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@26 November 2003 - 12:48
BTW, does Bo "know baseball"?
I mean, I thought she was good in "10" and all...
She is a great fan, and is stupifyingly attractive in a baseball cap. :w00t:
I also like her politics. :)
She has politics?
They aren't silicon, are they?
No, they're conservative, and they stand up right proud, don't they? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@26 November 2003 - 13:11
She has politics?
They aren't silicon, are they?
as a true conservative pair should, but be warned...
there is a liberal in your mist
:devil: :devil: :ermm: :'(
j/k
:blink: :'(Quote:
Originally posted by MediaSlayer@26 November 2003 - 15:54
as a true conservative pair should, but be warned...
there is a liberal in your mist
:devil: :devil: :ermm: :'(
j/k
NO!! NO!!!
Wait a minute-
In my mist?
That's okay, then.
That's where all the libs hang out. ;)
MediaSlayer, you must stop offering up waffleballs to j2.
No sense in making his odious task any easier.
libs? that'a a slur :angry: sir!!!%$!@@#*
but i can live with that, since i can just call you umm... ermm..a rep. :wacko:
:blink:Quote:
Originally posted by MediaSlayer@26 November 2003 - 06:30
The northwest is the unfortunate home to the traditonal stereotypical "yanks", complete with accents.
The only "yank accent" I've noticed is from people who migrated from the east coast or deep south.
That's the extreme Northwest mind you, it may be different closer to Oregon.
that was a typo, balaam, and i edited the post. thanks for catching it. :D
No, they're conservative, and they stand up right proud, don't they? ;) [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4+26 November 2003 - 18:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 26 November 2003 - 18:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@26 November 2003 - 13:11
She has politics?
They aren't silicon, are they?
I've always wondered why American's call their political right wing "conservative". I mean you guys founded the country on the basis that everyone gets to be free and do whatever makes them happy. I know most of you guys believe in:
*Better working conditions
*Laws to protect the environment
*Gun laws based on favoring hunting weapons rather than fully automatic machine guns
*A better universal medical system
*Laws to help get rid of racial and sexual descrimination
*Better control of the corporate sector to protect small investors and their savings (and 401k retirment plans), etc.
They are all your really traditional values (in Australia we have quaint term, "giving someone a fair go" and I've never heard it said anywhere else).
So why do you call yourselves conservative? I know I don't mind paying higher taxes if it really does improve the society I live in, although my current government is right wing and they are the highest taxing government in our history - but have managed to significantly reduce services and protection for the community.
I've heard "giving someone a fair go" before.
It's an unfortunate circumstance that the ideals and the reality really don't mesh.
:ninja:
Edit: Oh, and as for taxes, I pay ridiculous amounts in taxes, and still don't see any "good" come of it. I have, however, managed to have a lengthy correspondance with the government offices because they don't know how to communicate with each other.
14% tax on eggs...and they can't even afford a telephone...
A rather crude assessment, but still probably the best way to break it down. I was thinking something very similar myself, but did not include before because my post was too long anyway.Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@26 November 2003 - 17:34
There is a bit of truth in what everyone has said about the US's "geographic demographic", but I think it can be more easily understood by breaking it down into an urban/suburban/rural construct.
Toss the accents, which don't mean anything.
Go from the urban, where such things as "tradition" are "quaint" or "quirky" through suburbia, out to the rural, where tradition is "everything".
Go from the urban, where continued "enlightenment" is the rule, again out through suburbia to the rural, where enlightenment is "urban".
Exceptions exist, of course, but there're your delineations, culturally and otherwise.
If you were blindfolded and placed randomly in America and were allow 1 piece of information, which state you were in would be least useful.
Urban- Keep you head down, wallet hidden and don't ask to join into the next pick-up basketball game.
Suburban- No problems. Go to the mall for a slice of pizza. You will find people there who will hold doors open for you and tell you to have a nice day.
Rural- Watch your pooper, but marry your sister if you want.
Unless you were trying to get home. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by hobbes@27 November 2003 - 04:25
...If you were blindfolded and placed randomly in America and were allow 1 piece of information, which state you were in would be least useful...
:ninja:
I've always wondered why American's call their political right wing "conservative". I mean you guys founded the country on the basis that everyone gets to be free and do whatever makes them happy. I know most of you guys believe in:Quote:
Originally posted by Alex H+26 November 2003 - 19:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Alex H @ 26 November 2003 - 19:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@26 November 2003 - 18:14
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@26 November 2003 - 13:11
She has politics?
They aren't silicon, are they?
No, they're conservative, and they stand up right proud, don't they? ;)
*Better working conditions
*Laws to protect the environment
*Gun laws based on favoring hunting weapons rather than fully automatic machine guns
*A better universal medical system
*Laws to help get rid of racial and sexual descrimination
*Better control of the corporate sector to protect small investors and their savings (and 401k retirment plans), etc.
They are all your really traditional values (in Australia we have quaint term, "giving someone a fair go" and I've never heard it said anywhere else).
So why do you call yourselves conservative? I know I don't mind paying higher taxes if it really does improve the society I live in, although my current government is right wing and they are the highest taxing government in our history - but have managed to significantly reduce services and protection for the community.[/b][/quote]
The political differences are a bit more profound than you think, Alex H.
Your understanding of what a conservative would consider "traditional values" would indicate you are a bit behind the curve, if you'll excuse my saying it that way.
Rather than go into all that here, though, I can only resort to urging you to run a search-while I'm not the only conservative here (there is one other one, young kAb-a good man) I think others would agree I am the most prolific.
So, since I'm feeling really lazy, if you want to find out what this conservative is about, run a search and do some reading. :D
I know, I know.
Never mind.
Just ask the others here-I'm sure they'll tell you about me and my politics. :lol:
Seriously-
Just stick around-things will clarify themselves soon enough.