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I watched it albeit for free and it's seriously like if someone took the entirety of stupid and congealed it into one movie.Quote:
Furious 7 earned $143.6 million at North American theaters over the weekend and hauled in another $240.4 million around the world, according to The Hollywood Reporter, making for a huge $384 million total and the fourth-highest opening ever.
Hype...
They did that in the last one as well , I think it is the only way you could understand the plot and the series if you didn't start at 1st.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
If you say that about 7th in the series.... Did you like any of them??Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Red Heat (1988) with Arnold Schwarzenegger and James Belushi reminds me of ...
48 Hours (1982) With Nick Nolte and Eddie Murphy
I honesty don't know how many of them I've seen since after the first one and discounting Tokyo Drift they just run together in their sameness.Quote:
Originally Posted by shainaIf you say that about 7th in the series.... Did you like any of them??Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
DanB was cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
I started writing about his exploits, but then wasn't sure how much of it is deleted off the internets on purpose. But tales of his deeds were certainly more interesting than football, or even snow.
I think they were all entertaining in a surround sound theater or family room , but I am not running to the theater to see any of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787I honesty don't know how many of them I've seen since after the first one and discounting Tokyo Drift they just run together in their sameness.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
The only movies I prefer to see on the big screen are Bond movies , It usually the only ones I don't fall asleep and have to be woken up because I am snoring too loud.
Plus it pisses me off when you miss something and you cant fast forward or rewind what you missed.
He had more to work with.Try being cool when all you have to play off of is dion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snee
I'm pretty sure the same to be said about almost any movie involving cars and explosions so consider me unconvinced.Quote:
Originally Posted by shainaI think they were all entertaining in a surround sound theater or family room...Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
I do know that you really have to be borderline Jewish to think that Furious 7 isn't made specifically for the retarded though.
If you think this car series was bad .... I saw someone posted a list of Sylvester Stallone movies (could never replace Bruce Willis and play in the Die Hard series) and he listed Death Race 2000 and I don't remember seeing it , so I downloaded it and started watching it. After 15min into the movie , not only did I turn it off , I couldn't deleted it fast enough . Now that was un adulterated shit!!Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787I'm pretty sure the same to be said about almost any movie involving cars and explosions so consider me unconvinced.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
I do know that you really have to be borderline Jewish to think that Furious 7 isn't made specifically for the retarded though.
It is 20min (including the download) of life I will never get back.
What do you expect? This film was made in the 70's long before CGI and other special effects were ever conceived. Look at the original Mad Max. No super camera angles there. They simply speeded up the film slightly to enhance the fast speeds those cars were already doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
The trouble is that kids today expect so much for so little, and when they have to do a little bit of work, they moan like crazy. Whatever happened to sweat and toil?
I have a feeling that someone doesn't realize that it was a satire.
Hopefully someone will tell me that Furious 7 is also a satire and that no one is suppose to actually buy into the fact that two high powered sports cars can crash head-on into each other at speed and no one suffers even a stretch.
Or that downtown Los Angeles is apparently unpopulated.:mellow:
Satire is always an iffy proposition as it's a delicate balance of fact and absurdity.Tends to be more off-putting than entertaining.
The budget for that one was limited. The director had to total his own car for one of the chase scenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
You are not comparing Mad Max (cant watch anymore because of the Star in the movie) , and Stallone's movie?? The Batman tv series with Adam West had way better special affects. The first action scene Stalllone has a Giant ass sword connected to his front bumper , and when he runs into a guy , and they used a can of spray paint on his crotch for blood effects. They could have gotten a low budget horror special effects guy , that could have done a way better job on special effects. Even Dirty Harry series with Clint Eastwood had amazing effects when someone got shot , or blown up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoXWhat do you expect? This film was made in the 70's long before CGI and other special effects were ever conceived. Look at the original Mad Max. No super camera angles there. They simply speeded up the film slightly to enhance the fast speeds those cars were already doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
The trouble is that kids today expect so much for so little, and when they have to do a little bit of work, they moan like crazy. Whatever happened to sweat and toil?
Mad Max special effects were raw , but it still flowed and was much more entertaining to watch ( when I could , now I choose not too).
Yes, but it wasn't Stallone's movie, was it. It was Caradine's movie, because Stallone wasn't even famous when he was in DR2000. It was one of those, 'before they were famous', moments.
If you look at it that way , Yes , you would be right. So I can say that is not one of the best Caradine's movies then. He defiantly had way better flicks to watch with him in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
All and all... Other than the concept of the movie being used for new updated versions , I don't need to waste space on my server , it would never be watched in full.
Don't tell me Braveheart is ruined for you. That's like ruining Ludwig Van...Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
http://i.imgur.com/oDWNwMy.jpg?1
I wish it was just that LOL!!
Lethal Weapon series was In my all time favorites to watch (over and over) His big mouth fucked that all up. Now I am stuck with Police Academy Series.
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Originally Posted by megabytemeDon't tell me Braveheart is ruined for you. That's like ruining Ludwig Van...Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
http://i.imgur.com/oDWNwMy.jpg?1
Naked Gun/Police Squad > Police Academy
Plus Caridine is a prick ..... He stole Bruce Lee's concept of the series Kung Fu. I think it would have been a way bigger show if you had a Egg Roll travelling through the American West solving all the white mans problems. And if then adding subtitles for the non Chinese parts would have added to the home run it would have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFoX
They are all good.... But I am talking about Police Academy Movie series 1-7Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Shirley, you only mean maybe Police Academy 1-3. Beyond that, and I was a teenage boy at the time, there wasn't much to gain from keeping up with the series. :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by shainaThey are all good.... But I am talking about Police Academy Movie series 1-7Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Racist 'Murka was to blame. Caridine was just better 'suited' for the part since he was white. Bruce Lee also scared the piss out of everyone when he came on the scene as Kato. :01:Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
Speaking of Caridine...lest we knot forget how he passed at the stroke of mid-night. :whistling
Ya found in a closet with a rope around his neck , In Bangkok of course. And with rumors he liked it rough.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Ya Bruce was pretty scary with his black-eye facial mask.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Use to give me nightmares watching the green hornet on Beta-max.
It was a joke alternative Movie series , from banning any series with M-L G--SON , and if you watch movies 4-7 , you see how many actors started to get new rolls in movies or tv series.Quote:
Originally Posted by megabyteme
Except that Kung Fu was as much about juxtapositioning Shaolin monk Caine's tranquility against the violence and I'm not getting much tranquility from Bruce Lee.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
Since Caridine stole the role , we will never know the tranquility , or non violent side of Bruce (and I really don't give two shits about it anyways. LOL!!)Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787Except that Kung Fu was as much about juxtapositioning Shaolin monk Caine's tranquility against the violence and I'm not getting much tranquility from Bruce Lee.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
You can guarantee that if Bruce was the lead , the series would have lasted past the pilot instead of 3 seasons
Be that as it may, captain dense almost has a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787Except that Kung Fu was as much about juxtapositioning Shaolin monk Caine's tranquility against the violence and I'm not getting much tranquility from Bruce Lee.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
I mean, it was Bruce Lee's idea to begin with, which the company stole from him.
Carradine probably didn't know until later.
What the story was about, I'd say, would thus be up to Lee. TBH, I think I'd have preferred Lee in the role. I saw old reruns as a kid, and found Carradine both boring and really out of place.
Not saying that Bruce Lee wouldn't have been more entertaining in the role and that some level of racism wasn't involved in the casting but clearly the show" needed a serene person, and Carradine was more appropriate for the role" holds true or else for better or worse wind up with you have something entirely different than Kung Fu.Quote:
Ed Spielman is the creator of the 'Kung Fu' series. Any claims to the contrary are incorrect, and an injustice. As a teenager, Mr. Spielman worked as a Page at ABC-TV in New York. He discovered the secret arts of kung-fu in the early 1960s, and he studied Mandarin Chinese in College at night. He spent years doing his research in New York's Chinatown and elsewhere unearthing this heretofore secret knowledge. At that time, kung-fu was not known in the Western world and was denied to non-Chinese. It was taught by master/student relationships and within families. It was never revealed to non-Chinese. But, Spielman pressed on.
By the mid-1960s, Ed had acquired a depth of information, and wrote a forty-four-page treatment for film, TV and publishing titled, 'Kung Fu: The Way of the Tiger, The Sign of the Dragon.' He spent the next few years trying to move it forward to film or television. In 1969, he was introduced to young agent Peter Lampack at the William Morris Agency in New York. Lampack liked the material and made a deal with Warner's executive Bennett Sims in New York.
In February of 1970, Lampack bartered a deal for Spielman and his friend and collaborator, Howard Friedlander, to write a theatrical motion picture screenplay from Spielman's original story. All of this occurred in New York.
At the end of this development, Warner Bros. chose not to make the theatrical film. But, studio executive Harvey Frand had faith in the project, and took it to ABC, which by that time, had introduced a pioneering 'Movie of The Week' format.
The Spielman/Friedlander script was pared down for budget, produced and shown on ABC, February 22, 1972. It was an immediate hit. The iconic 'Kung Fu' monthly-then-weekly series followed...
Undoubtedly, Bruce Lee had his own ideas and aspirations, but that has nothing to do with Ed Spielman's ground-breaking and original work. The Writers Guild of America West awarded sole credit to Ed Spielman as the creator of 'Kung Fu'... And no allegation of Bruce Lee's having to do with the creation of 'Kung Fu' appeared in public until 'The Bruce Lee Story' (1993) in which the allegation was made.
Ed Spielman told me specifically: 'In 1993, I was preparing a major law suit against Universal, DeLaurentis Productions and all of those who were responsible for the false allegations in 'The Bruce Lee Story' to deprive me of the authorship of my work and defame me. But, Bruce Lee died in 1973 and his son Brandon also tragically died in 1993. A lawsuit by me would have fallen on Bruce Lee's widow, Linda. She had lost enough. I didn't think she would have survived those years in court. I thought about it...then told the lawyers to forget about it. The documents speak for themselves for anyone who cares to look...I was greatly disappointed that Bruce Lee did not appear as a principal in the 'Kung Fu' series. But he had nothing to do with its creation. My work and the 'Kung Fu' project was on the East Coast; his was on the West Coast. My work predated his by years. The complete story and characters were registered in the mid-1960s. The documents and contracts prove that.
That's interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
On the other hand you have Linda Lee saying it was Bruce Lee's idea, and Bruce Lee himself going onto some talkshow at least a year IIRC before the show aired and talking about a show he called "Warriors", about a martial artist in the old west.
Like I said, I think I would have preferred a more bombastic Lee in the main role, and yeah, it would have been a very different show indeed.
Even if Bruce made some changes in the story line. Unless he wore his kato mask , in that era , he never would have been accepted for a prime time show . And no producer could have got the funding to make it. It was a white mans world then.Quote:
Originally Posted by ckritBe that as it may, captain dense almost has a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
I mean, it was Bruce Lee's idea to begin with, which the company stole from him.
Carradine probably didn't know until later.
What the story was about, I'd say, would thus be up to Lee. TBH, I think I'd have preferred Lee in the role. I saw old reruns as a kid, and found Carradine both boring and really out of place.
If the rest of the world thought it was a boring show the 62 episodes would have been cut off at 15.
I think that is dense enough explanation for 2nd class lieutenant to understand
The thing about personal preference, is that it is personal preference. Captain.
I have no reason to doubt any of that. The thing is though if you factor in what was happening at the time,it being both the heyday of Martial Arts movies and yet a time when Westerns still held a wide appeal,is it not plausible,even likely that more than one person thought of combining the two?Quote:
Originally Posted by ckrit
Personally,not being a patent attorney or someone with something to gain, and as we're not talking Harper Lee here I'm going with the "merely a coincidence".
Of course I could be wrong and when go to register what I think is an incredibly witty and mindblowingly unique username someplace and find that someone's already used it at least now I'll know they stole it.
As what people remember about the show is basically none of the actual fighting but instead "Snatch the pebble from my hand,Grasshopper" then, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by ckrit
On the other hand I don't see Lee being a very good "Bill".
It is true Lieutenant... I really not fond of Reality shows , and who is voting or filling out the surveys ( never seen or received one) to keep them on for years .Quote:
Originally Posted by ckrit
I had this assumption that where they do pick the area for voting , they were pumping something In the drinking water to brainwash them.
What do you mean?? Bruce would have made a great Bill , Bruce's wife kind of looks like Uma Thurman.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
And Bruce and Linda always looked great in photos together. The role of Bill will be played by Bruce "Jeet Kune Do" Lee , I like it!!
However, being Asian, he would have been a natural at running people over in Deathrace.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787