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Good gawd that's a lot of letters all strung together. :O
The need for a Jewish homeland is certainly justified. The way in which the West decided to disrespect the 'then' landholders was a massive screw you. If the Jews absolutely had to have that particular land (yeah, there's reason), then the West shold have respectfully negotiated with those in the area. Instead, a resolution was passed, which completely spat upon those there. That insult has not gone away.
I'm absolutely not against the Jews, but see this as a multifaceted clusterfuck that will not heal. Countless lives have been lost, as well as endless worldwide conflict has resulted. A patch of fucking dirt isn't worth the trouble that it has caused. Get everyone out of there and nuke the whole fucking area. Make it glass for the next 1000 years. :idunno:
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Good gawd that's a lot of letters all strung together. :O
The need for a Jewish homeland is certainly justified. The way in which the West decided to disrespect the 'then' landholders was a massive screw you. If the Jews absolutely had to have that particular land (yeah, there's reason), then the West shold have respectfully negotiated with those in the area. Instead, a resolution was passed, which completely spat upon those there. That insult has not gone away.
I'm absolutely not against the Jews, but see this as a multifaceted clusterfuck that will not heal. Countless lives have been lost, as well as endless worldwide conflict has resulted. A patch of fucking dirt isn't worth the trouble that it has caused. Get everyone out of there and nuke the whole fucking area. Make it glass for the next 1000 years. :idunno:
Here is another one.... You said you like to read LOL!!...
You know what Meg... Myself being a Part time Atheist, blowing up the area may not be a bad idea, but just give warning to the people there get out by this date or you are dead. I can tell you if the threat came from the US?? I guarantee the Jews and Christians would be out of there!!!, and could blend in anywhere in a Democracy country or State:D(sorry that deserved a smile face), but i can guarantee the Palestinians would not leave and end up dying, again part of there DNA
But just some info for you...
Israel Wars...
Golan Heights-Won from Syria and offered part of it back, now a huge buffer zone with lots of land undeveloped (and in question if it is considered part of Israel )
Gaza- Won from Egypt war offered it back didn't want the responsibility of the people living it( then Camps of now Palestinians )
The West Bank- Won from Jordan more than 80% of the land is undeveloped and the majority to be for a Palestinian State, but it could never completely be given to them because it is a Part of Jerusalem and they know what that means to the Jewish people Hatfield and Mccoys shit LOL!!
Gaza once had Jews living there and Israel in a land negotiation was given to the Palestinians in swap (approved on both sides), all the Jews were kicked out.
So the land division is very tricky Meg because it was actually smaller until Israel won the wars and expanded it, hens 1939-1967 borders bla bla..
The new Palestinian people do deserve to live free and without what they call occupation? but in my eyes i would call it more defense against threats
There are no Jews living in Gaza or Part of the West-Bank but because of the threats(happening as we speak now) and being so close together, the security for Israel is also imposed there(which i would think makes sense or the Jews are dead!!)...Plus all the water and Electricity is supplied from Israel at no charge, but that is supposed to change.
It is so complex that even if the PLO leaders(who are secured and guarded by the IDF LOL!!) and Israel sat down (No Hamas considering there charter is to kill every Jew on the planet (In there interpretation of the Quran or something??), but they are elected leader of Gaza), If Israel even gave them all the land they wanted it would not be good enough, especially if the Jews have leaders in Israel....
To me it really is a Lose Lose situation, and very sad..
But again it is not going to stop Terrorism in the Middle East, Assad is Russia and Iran's boy toy, this fuckin guy with the help of his friends are really committing genocide(Palestinians in camps there as well) !! Nothing to do with Israel, but mention the name and yup there fault LOL!!
Bin Laden hated the west, never attacked Israel but there fault anyways
Saddam Hussein WE (Israel l) saved your guys ass when Israel allegedly went in and bombed the nuclear plant(your guys were pretty shocked when Israel pulled it off), lots of documented videos on that, you should watch it quite amazing what they pulled off, but oh ya Israels fault
To me that is really fucked up, and i don't think in my life time there will be a solution, but i do really hope there is and everyone can live in peace..
And thank you for the reply, it was appreciated.....
And if you think i was wrong in anything i said or don't agree with it please say something?? You would never ever offend me:D
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Zionism or Zionist....
a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.
I am trying to figure out why on some blogs on the internet where they get the idea that only Jews are to live in Israel using the Zionists excuse??
Yes it is a Democracy run by Jews in the Middle East, but where do people get the idea that other races or religions are banned or rejected Israeli citizenship...
To me being raised in Canada and living in a Democracy, i would think you have every nationality or race should be given a chance/right for citizenship in that country or state if they choose??
Seeing some blogs make Israel out to be for Jews only?? Yet there are Christians, Muslims, citizens in Israel. So does that mean the concept of Zionism doesn't work or is a failure??. To myself the word Zionism really has no meaning other than any Jew has the right to live in the home land of Israel??
So wouldn't that be the same in Canada or USA?? if you apply and are a good human being, Israel does not refuse citizenship, and being in the Middle East is there any other place that has the same concept?? Even under a different name than Zionism is there??
That to me is very interesting...
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"... one of which is the freedom to worship any God you wish ..."
How can anyone write that and not understand that to worship any God you wish can only mean there is more than one.
Which there isn't of course, it really is a binary option, 0 or 1.
Unless you are a Hindu of course, but as I understand it the author is a monotheist of some description.
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"... one of which is the freedom to worship any God you wish ..."
How can anyone write that and not understand that to worship any God you wish can only mean there is more than one.
Which there isn't of course, it really is a binary option, 0 or 1.
Unless you are a Hindu of course, but as I understand it the author is a monotheist of some description.
So how do you know if you are praying to the right G-D?
The day someone up there gives you the answer JPaul , go buy a lottery ticket as fast as you can:D
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"... one of which is the freedom to worship any God you wish ..."
How can anyone write that and not understand that to worship any God you wish can only mean there is more than one.
Which there isn't of course, it really is a binary option, 0 or 1.
Unless you are a Hindu of course, but as I understand it the author is a monotheist of some description.
So how do you know if you are praying to the right G-D?
The day someone up there gives you the answer JPaul , go buy a lottery ticket as fast as you can:D
Which part of there being either no God or one God is it you are finding difficult to understand.
It's not that difficult a concept.
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I'm not normally opposed to Arabs doing Arab stuff, even in the 'West'
You've a open heart for all humans alike, I'm already aware of it as we have had these discussions in the past too. Common folks like you and Idol at least have the balls to stand and say the just no matter what the consequences, I'll tell you MBM it takes a lot of courage to do that. And you are not alone, there are millions and millions like you in the west as well as in Arabia. These motherfucking Capitalists and sexists have made our lives hell for their desire to have more then everyone else.
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If Israel loses, they can have a patch of land inside Arizona or Nevada. At least the US has the right to give that land away.
West has a vested interest(s) in the Zionist state. Primary motive to carve out a nation for Jews was because west had to find a way to de-invest their wealth from it's economies, and to get rid of them from it's societies. What could accomplish this goal better then giving them their own nation to live with each other and invest in their economy. They have this tendency to hijack the entire economies and manipulate the societies. There's a reason why ever nation has went against them through out history, Babylonians, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Crusaders, Nazis, Muslims, and God knows who else, and the aim was never to colonize or punish them but to completely abolish them.
There's a reason why Romans devised and implemented Diaspora, just to understand how important was it keep them away, When Muslims took charge of the holy land in 638 A.D from Romans, no battle occurred, Romans surrendered it simply in the exchange of the terms that Diaspora must remain in effect.
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According to this analogy..... Just because USA dropped a couple of nukes on Japan over 60 years ago, I too have a morally valid right to drop a nuke anywhere I deem fit.
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Fuck me. That's some hella fucking illiterate jew wank going on right there.
In the olden days cunts got banned for this kinda religious radicalism. Seems our tolerance level for zealot spastics has increased considerably.
Can someone please write a petition to nominate this guy for the presidency of the Board of English Language and Heritage?
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These motherfucking Capitalists and sexists have made our lives hell for their desire to have more then everyone else.
I'd be more than happy to kill Larry Ellison but I'm going to need a gun.
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Can someone please write a petition to nominate this guy for the presidency of the Board of English Language and Heritage?
To be fair he's some sub-genre of British so being a cunt is basically his natural state.
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Full disclosure. I could probably kill Ellison with a moderately sharp stick but I just really want a gun.
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Plans are being made to give discussion of Israel/Middle East Conflict a homeland in The Drawing Room. Deals are being made to drop it in the middle of a Mexican Immigration discussion without the thread owner's consent. We expect this to go peacefully...
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According to this analogy..... Just because USA dropped a couple of nukes on Japan over 60 years ago, I too have a morally valid right to drop a nuke anywhere I deem fit.
But the difference is you would kill yourself and anyone else with the thought of something better for you on the other side waiting for you??
I prefer to stay on earth as long as i can and cherish my life and children, especially my children...So far everyone that does control/have nukes , and the means to fire them has the same morals,Even with the everyday threats they have..
As i said Cdfan i want peace and quiet for everyone, and realistic suggestions for peace around the world, But yours getting rid of Jews just doesn't work.. Just like getting rid of Good intention Muslims would not be mine..
But i think the world has spoken that the Bad Muslims do need a solution, do you have one for that?? It seems that everyone except the Good Muslims are taking steps and trying to stop the bloodshed?? Help and suggestions would be nice??
Cdfan.. They just elected the first British Muslim faith mayor in England... I really think that is fantastic, and he will do good things for everyone...If he hires Jews on his team is that ok with you??
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Plans are being made to give discussion of Israel/Middle East Conflict a homeland in The Drawing Room. Deals are being made to drop it in the middle of a Mexican Immigration discussion without the thread owner's consent. We expect this to go peacefully...
I am done with it...Thanks Meg.
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Plans are being made to give discussion of Israel/Middle East Conflict a homeland in The Drawing Room. Deals are being made to drop it in the middle of a Mexican Immigration discussion without the thread owner's consent. We expect this to go peacefully...
I am done with it...Thanks Meg.
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Ok Meg it was kind of funny but i am still done... And the Mexicans i will leave in your good hands:unsure:, or is that Cubans?? It is a little confusing.....
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You've a open heart for all humans alike, I'm already aware of it as we have had these discussions in the past too. Common folks like you and Idol at least have the balls to stand and say the just no matter what the consequences, I'll tell you MBM it takes a lot of courage to do that. And you are not alone, there are millions and millions like you in the west as well as in Arabia. These motherfucking Capitalists and sexists have made our lives hell for their desire to have more then everyone else.
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megabyteme
If Israel loses, they can have a patch of land inside Arizona or Nevada. At least the US has the right to give that land away.
West has a vested interest(s) in the Zionist state. Primary motive to carve out a nation for Jews was because west had to find a way to de-invest their wealth from it's economies, and to get rid of them from it's societies. What could accomplish this goal better then giving them their own nation to live with each other and invest in their economy. They have this tendency to hijack the entire economies and manipulate the societies. There's a reason why ever nation has went against them through out history, Babylonians, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Crusaders, Nazis, Muslims, and God knows who else, and the aim was never to colonize or punish them but to completely abolish them.
There's a reason why Romans devised and implemented Diaspora, just to understand how important was it keep them away, When Muslims took charge of the holy land in 638 A.D from Romans, no battle occurred, Romans surrendered it simply in the exchange of the terms that Diaspora must remain in effect.
Welcome the the world of the BDS!!
And if that is your realistic view, i would suggest you go back to the stone age...
And now i will really finish with Megs full statement that i agree with and have no reason not too
"I'm not normally opposed to Arabs doing Arab stuff, even in the 'West' (with exception for blowing things/peoples up, ofc), but the idea that Muslim views are vertically opposed to the West, being stated by a Muslim, makes me not so happy."
Your statement...
"These motherfucking Capitalists and sexists have made our lives hell for their desire to have more then everyone else."
Are you kidding me!! Your leaders have 12 palaces and sit on thrones, allow the people they want to prosper, meanwhile the rest of the population live in shit!!.
Sexist!! Name any gay or interracial marriages in your country?? And that is without getting killed!!
Why i am falling into your idiocies makes me wonder, if you are looking for excuses to blame people...
The majority of the Middle East hates the west and there way of living, A lot of the Muslims in Israel are moderate or conservative just the same as the Jews, trying to paint another picture is just nonsense. I mean other than Qatar, where else has a Middle Eastern country moved to the 21st century?? Even in Europe, the Muslim communities are trying to go secular and not blend with anyone else..Look at where the Bombers ran too and where they hide??(And in defense not all bad but clueless and do nothing about it)
You flat out knock Jews/Israel, and progress yet you use the benefits , from there inventions, life saving equipment drugs,(Do you think the Pal treated Abbas or his brother??, or an Israeli hospital did dumbass!!saved the so called enemies ass life, but shit Jews are bad!!) and sharing it with everyone not keeping it just for Jews!! Every time you type on your keyboard and reply to a text, Email ,make a phone call, costumer service, without Israel it wouldn't exist, other than oil and blood. name some of the accomplishments Muslims have and share it with the rest of the world?? (and not the Muslim Israeli citizens, the Jews and Israel are no good).
Jews, Chinese, Christians, English, may be hated but they are not on the bottom of the list, can you guess is?? And there is a lot of them, and a large portion of them are good but the bad ones now out way the good ones. Time to change that and stop blaming everything else in the world, be it Jews, Western way of living, or any other religion/race....
If the Jews were gone all of this ends?? Give me a bloody Break!!!
Meg is offering Israel a piece of land in the USA, why not Hamas/Hezbollah, ISIS, PLO or Muslims??
People with propaganda interest are the ones to take things out of context
And the vast funds invested in Israel are all paid back in spades!!, when Palestinians receive funding where is it going?
Billions of dollars to make there lives better received by there leaders, where the heck is it??
Stop blaming the world and everyone else and stand up to the leaders that have your dreams in there hands...
The teachers finally did and how many were killed for it?? People try to stand up to the leaders elected?? They are killed, is that the worlds fault??
Grow up!!
And Jews are welcomed in Democracy Countries, are you??
In Israel Economy and Business are growing and flourishing, there is no need for them to move anywhere else. But if you live in poverty and famine why wouldn't Palestinians want to move to the USA, Canada, or any democracy countries and make a better life for themselves?? What are they waiting for?? Jews that left Muslim countries and where you claim no one wanted them are prosperous and happy, I don't see your point that no one wants the Jews yet your people are now getting slaughtered by the thousands and still Muslims countries don't help, Why??
Christians help Christians, Jews Help Jews , and each other, Why not in the Muslim Faith??
These are facts and reality, not propaganda shit. I mean the USA, Russia (And Israel as well) is helping Muslims but there own is killing them??
Canada is 149 years old how long did it take its enemies to realize they are not getting there land back, before they made better lives for there families??
USA over 240 years
Israel over 60 years
How long??
That makes a lot of sense to me while i sit in my backyard knowing i am guarded and safe. And Israel builds bomb shelters for there people to be safe from there surroundings (Every Israeli citizen and visitor,not just your so called Zionist Jews)...
Life should be considered precious, Not extinguished for faith or cult...
Born in America big threat to the world
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Born in Israel and now live in America big threat to the world
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A woman of catholic faith big threat to the world
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A woman of Muslim faith wearing a Burka walking(Are they allowed to drive) in downtown New York City threat to the world
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Woman of Muslim faith wearing a Niqab walking in Washington DC, threat to the world
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A woman wearing an Hijab walking down the street in Downtown Miami, threat to the world
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A family walking in Israel, threat to the world
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I leave the answers in your hands....
I said i wouldn't do this again and falling into stupidity i did anyways.... Go figure......
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To keep on the Tread Meg..
All the media says that Bernie really has no chance yet he stays in the race? And could you see him being Vice President to Clinton??
Or maybe vice versa??
I mean what if Trump is the next President?? Do you think he is able to do the full job as commander and chief??
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If you take our former mayor Rob Ford (just past away), i mean his personal life was a mess, but politically he did save the taxpayers a lot of money. Saying that all the shit with Trump i guess it could be the other persons he appoints to office as well no??
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Hopefully Clinton will name a good Vice President and then die shortly after being inducted into office.
This. I've actually said this. Although 'die' is too vague and needs to involve words like "masked men", "truck", "bludgeoned", "televised manhunt, ending in authorities arriving too late", "horrific", "we cannot show the found footage on-air", "still no suspects"...
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........*And the lot's of useless images on the topic so intense that literally hold the fate of the world which lies on the outcome *.....
I feel like I've unintentionally stepped on the tail of a carnivorous cat.
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........*And the lot's of useless images on the topic so intense that literally hold the fate of the world which lies on the outcome *.....
I feel like I've unintentionally stepped on the tail of a carnivorous cat.
No but you may have touched a nerve or two, and maybe i have gone to far on expressing something that i really have no outcome on...
And really the images are useless or true?? and no comment or response or debate on anything else i suggest/solution?
makes sense :rolleyes: I guess my suggestions were not complex enough...
And the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is just a fart in the wind compared to what is going on in the rest of the world. And a great cop out or fall back on what is happening to good Arab/Muslims in the Middle East and the rest of the world. Especially from there own Muslim people...And of course the radical Islamist's and the weak minded people they recruit to cause mayhem everywhere..
It is strange and hard to understand why any family person would want a faith that assumes death is better than life??
I say and will always say Religion can not rule people, no matter what your beliefs are, man made interpretations
fuck the whole thing up, and weak minded people just follow like cattle, or in some cases just killed if they don't...
Common Sense and human nature, and laws for pro Life not Death, especially not really knowing what is on the other side...
I do apologize if you think my impression is that you are bad person Cdfan, because i don't, and never did..
But talking politics and putting blame with no solutions doesn't help either, especially there are always two sides to every conflict/story, and being honest i know both sides have to lose to solve any conflict. In human nature both sides need to feel that they won and lost at the same time if that makes sense...
To me what i have done may have stepped to far, but so did you...
I do regret that racism, antisemitism and just plain hatred will never stop, but it doesn't have to happen here.
If i am going to blame or make a statement i try to also add a solution, be it right or wrong, but at least it is a start in a discussion...
Again i apologize if i did offend you Cdfan, and i hope you feel the same way towards me..
Shay
PS. What happens if you didn't know i was Jewish and myself, you being an Arab?? Would that change the outcome of this debate ??
PEACE
