Lounge Lizards Please Read....

okay... jumping into the fray... coz im like that...

BD.. luv ya heaps... but i dont think your idea is a good one... sorry hon... i think angs is much better!

like i said earlier if it hadnt been for knowing you lot there is NO way i would have posted... not even in a newbie room... which btw... i find a little ummm nasty to be called... it makes me feel like ive got something contagious!... :(

the thread set up for me by shared was a great idea.. it let me stay in my own little space without venturing out unless i wanted to... a NEWCOMER intro thread would be nice... :)

It doesn't matter where you put a thread, if the idiots on this board are allowed in they will flame and abuse. Saying be nice to them is so naive it doesn't warrant thinking about. Look at the very early threads on the forum, from last year even, it's always been a problem, and it won't go away. There are supposedly 55,000 + members, where are they? The truth is, most members don't come back, and plenty of them have told us why. Honey, you had a whole bunch of friends here before you signed up, and friends of friends who posted in that thread, that's not the reality for most people. I still think they should be given an area of their own, to use if they wish. Somewhere they are able to tell each other of their experiences, and ask questions without being told to read the fucking FAQ.


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I'm a 'newbie' (Soz for using this word Honey but i'm being specific so everyone know's what i'm on about) in a sense given that i've only really been very active on the board for the last few week's, but i've got an idea that could work -

A 'newbie' room where they can post what they like, but they're limited to posting in that room for a week/few week's/month (meaning unable to post outside of the room unless they talk to a mod/friend who then talk's to a mod and their status is changed), but in order to help them out the room is moderated by a few of the more knowledgeable peep's who have been here a while and would be willing to do that in order to help them with their question's. They would be able to view the other section's of the board, it would help as they could possibly find answer's that way (it would possibly encourage them to do that more than just posting a question without even looking), but unable to post in any other sections.

It doesn't have to work exactly like that, it's just an idea that could do with a little work on detail's etc :)

That's my 2 cent's on this :)

Sniper.

EDIT : I finished a sentence unfinished lol

Keep these ideas coming people - the sub-title has been changed anyways to try to be a bit more inviting ;) Whether they stay or not, is another story - but its a start.

Peace
UKMan

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Originally posted by Billy_Dean@27 November 2003 - 00:24
Honey, you had a whole bunch of friends here before you signed up, and friends of friends who posted in that thread, that's not the reality for most people. I still think they should be given an area of their own, to use if they wish. Somewhere they are able to tell each other of their experiences, and ask questions without being told to read the fucking FAQ.


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my point exactly BD... i said if it hadnt been for you guys i would have hightailed it out of here for sure... day 1...

i mean even I tried to read the FAQ and lost my way in there too... honestly i felt so stupid making my first post regarding profiles... :(

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Originally posted by Ozbabe@26 November 2003 - 16:51
my point exactly BD... i said if it hadnt been for you guys i would have hightailed it out of here for sure... day 1...

i mean even I tried to read the FAQ and lost my way in there too... honestly i felt so stupid making my first post regarding profiles... :(

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You tried reading them though :)

I only found out about a month ago how to change the bit of text under my avatar, and that was only because I read a post about it lol So there's alway's going to be question's that even peep's who have been here a while might come up with :)

Well, i'm going bed soon so night all, be naughty and i'll speak to ya all later ;) :)

Night Ozbabe Honey :wub: :*

Sniper.

i asked the question Sniper babe, coz i couldnt do what the FAQ's said... and i was getting frustrated with it all.. :)

anyways... nite nite hon... catch up with you tomorrow or in the morning or something... :wub:

How about a n00b room moderated by Funky Carpicorn, he's real good at breaking them in! Well he took my cherry anyway (so to speak)

Seriously though it doesnt matter how long you've been here people can be dicks and will continue to be so.
But us lounge lizards are great people with a strange sense of humour so maybe we should just have a pinned explaining that when we take the piss its just for fun :)

I think maybe a lounge sub forum with the heading "introduce yourself" would be nice (I'm not sure if some one suggested this before, cant be arsed to read back)

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Originally posted by namzuf9@26 November 2003 - 18:13
How about a n00b room moderated by Funky Carpicorn, he's real good at breaking them in! Well he took my cherry anyway (so to speak)

Seriously though it doesnt matter how long you've been here people can be dicks and will continue to be so.
But us lounge lizards are great people with a strange sense of humour so maybe we should just have a pinned explaining that when we take the piss its just for fun :)

I think maybe a lounge sub forum with the heading "introduce yourself" would be nice (I'm not sure if some one suggested this before, cant be arsed to read back)

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sub-title allready changed - now you dont have to scroll up :lol:

I'm slow today :rolleyes:

Sorry I didnt read all the 4 pages obviously but i read the original in About Our Website and Forum.

Just have me 2 cents to add in.

People seem to take pride in bashing the new members. They seem to think they are senior as compared to others. I dont know what joy it gives them only spoils their image in front of other members.

First of all, we need to stop calling New Members expressions "noobs" or "newbies" indicating that they dont know anything about the forum or whatever. When you joined in you were new then. If I have had a welcome like someone calling me "noob" etc. and laughing on my posts. i would have left the forum coz i wasnt welcome. Luckily, I started posting in a place where I knew what was going on more than the majority.
No one is a born genius, help as much as you can while you welcome them in your own community. And if they turn out to be people like n-e-t-w-e-i-s-e-r kinds kick
their ass off. You will get full support from each single member ;)

Otherwise, the only request is Stop Bashing them. And one more thing, just because some posted a question in the lounge it doesnt mean you can ridicule them and laugh at their question and post useless answers. It only reinforces the thought why the decision was made not to increase the Post Count here. Just because one can talk about anything here doesnt mean you reply nonsense.

I am not pointing at anyone, just bringing something to light. Although, I do visit lounge every once in a while to get my laughs ;) and trust me this is more effective then the Funny Section :D

I dont know what i said above. Hope it makes sense.

Just thought that I&#39;d add when I first started using here there was a bit of bashing but luckily nothing like the scale it is now <_< I mean if anything I found the lounge to be the first place I came :lol:

I&#39;m pretty sure we have all asked silly questions or asked someone the answer to something instead of looking it up ourself? I know I do at work :lol:


We&#39;ve all got ideas and we should listen to them all and not fly off the handle. Come on we are talking in a thread about how to make the lounge more welcoming and there&#39;s bad feeling in here&#33;&#33; What kind of an example does that set :blink: :blink:


Edit - still can&#39;t remember to proofread :rolleyes:

How many people who come here for the first time are actually new to internet forums. I have no way of knowing, however I would think that proportionately it is a small number.

It just seems more sensible that, for the majority of new people, they actually have visited other forums before finding their way here.

If that is the case, then I doubt that they leave or fail to post because they are intimidated. They will be aware of forum politics, because in all honesty they will have seen it elsewhere.

A Poll would clarify whether or not this was the first forum for the members here. Though I doubt it would achieve anything.

Bottom line, I don&#39;t think most people fail to post or leave quickly because they feel intimidated.

This is my first forum experience&#33;

I have gathered that it is one of the better ones so I don&#39;t see the need to look further.

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Originally posted by fugley@26 November 2003 - 21:55
This is my first forum experience&#33;

I have gathered that it is one of the better ones so I don&#39;t see the need to look further.

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Do you feel intimidated at all ?

Do you sometimes hold back your thoughts because you fear being flamed ?

Would a room where you could chat with other new people have helped bring you out of your shell a bit earlier ?

Do you intend leaving because of the incessant bashing you have had to endure ?

Nope but I&#39;m too weird to be delicate. I can imagine some aint so "mentally" robust or do I mean retarded?

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Originally posted by fugley@26 November 2003 - 22:04
Nope but I&#39;m too weird to be delicate. I can imagine some aint so "mentally" robust or do I mean retarded?

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I rarely know what you mean, I suspect I am not the only member of that particular club.

you need the fugley translator.

look for the hash in the verifieds. ;)

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Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@27 November 2003 - 06:46
How many people who come here for the first time are actually new to internet forums. I have no way of knowing, however I would think that proportionately it is a small number.

It just seems more sensible that, for the majority of new people, they actually have visited other forums before finding their way here.

If that is the case, then I doubt that they leave or fail to post because they are intimidated. They will be aware of forum politics, because in all honesty they will have seen it elsewhere.

A Poll would clarify whether or not this was the first forum for the members here. Though I doubt it would achieve anything.

Bottom line, I don&#39;t think most people fail to post or leave quickly because they feel intimidated.

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:( Well I was intimidated and if it hadn&#39;t been for my friends I wouldn&#39;t have stayed.

I&#39;m Too Scared To Post On This Forum

:) You don&#39;t scare me anymore.

B)

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Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+26 November 2003 - 21:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 26 November 2003 - 21:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-fugley@26 November 2003 - 22:04
Nope but I&#39;m too weird to be delicate.&nbsp; I can imagine some aint so "mentally" robust or do I mean retarded?

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I rarely know what you mean, I suspect I am not the only member of that particular club. [/b][/quote]
That&#39;s it&#33; - I&#39;m miffed now&#33; I knew I should never have joined this clever peoples oranisationonion&#33;&#33; :ph34r:

Perhaps a separate "Meet and Greet" forum may be a good idea - one for those who not only want to post about filesharing and such, but would like to stick around and chat generally. And I think, given the friendly nature of many posters in here, there would be enough bods around to respond to a post from a n00b introducing themselves and saying hi.

Of course, not all new posters would want to do this, but given the huge number of members KLF has, I&#39;m sure those who wished to say "hi" in a designated area would do so.

And I must say, I was never scared of this place. I&#39;m not really scared of anything. Except clowns..*shudder* :o

B) Morning Ella&#33; Another board I&#39;ve been to has an "Introduce Yourself forum" and it seems to work really well. They always get welcomed.

:rolleyes:

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Originally posted by AussieSheila@27 November 2003 - 00:07
B) Morning Ella&#33; Another forum I&#39;ve been to has an "Introduce Yourself forum" and it seems to work really well. They always get welcomed.

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would they welcome me? :)

hello Andie :teehee:

:) Good morning UKbeenverybusyMan&#33;

(You&#39;ve been exposed in "What&#39;s Wrong With This Picture" just in case you missed it.) :D
:blink: It&#39;s probably not the forum you&#39;re thinking of, we do have a "meet and greet" there. But I&#39;m sure you&#39;d be welcomed at both. :rolleyes:

B)

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Originally posted by AussieSheila@27 November 2003 - 00:18
:) Good morning UKbeenverybusyMan&#33;

(You&#39;ve been exposed in "What&#39;s Wrong With This Picture" just in case you missed it.) :D
:blink: It&#39;s probably not the forum you&#39;re thinking of, we do have a "meet and greet" there. But I&#39;m sure you&#39;d be welcomed at both. :rolleyes:

B)

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Ahh yes, the top 10 for the day - the image is gone now :unsure:
I was&#39;nt thinking of any particular forum, but i know which one you thought i thought :blink: :unsure: wow - my head hurts&#33;&#33;

Yepp - been a busy bee t&#39;day - managed to get the Lounge sub-title changed so it looks more friendly - not that it is mind you :lol:

Peace
UKMan

:rolleyes: Well it does look friendlier&#33; ;)

I&#39;m looking for a Swedish pic for Scavenger Hunt. You should have a go at it.

B)

What about a "Pinned" Meet and Greet thread up there with the mirc one? That would work&#33; :D

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Originally posted by AussieSheila@27 November 2003 - 01:10
:rolleyes: Well it does look friendlier&#33; ;)

I&#39;m looking for a Swedish pic for Scavenger Hunt. You should have a go at it.

B)

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heres one for ya Andie:
What is this and which town is it in?
http://w1.542.telia.com/~u54207239/Sv.jpg

Good Luck

Peace
UKMan

uh thats werid

Proposal by Hobbes


1. A New Arrivals or Introduce Yourself section is a rather standard part of most forums. This is distinct from the General Discussion section.

2. The first experience a person has on a forum, can have quite an influence on their desire to stay. When noobs come to the general lounge and "re-invent the wheel" there, the more senior people sometimes snap because they are tired of the same old questions and telling people to read the fucking FAQ.

3. The Arrival section would allow these rookies to get these awkward first posts out of the way in a forgiving environment, learn how to post on an online forum, and get to observe the lounge, as they learn the interpersonal "dynamics". (oh he&#39;s nice, oh, he&#39;s a joker, what the fuck is BD&#39;s problem, etc.).

4. I think everyone should be allowed to post in any forum at any time. I will probably never enter the Noob section unless I am feeling all warm and fuzzy or something.

5. Any regular who enters there routinely to aggrevate the noobs, will be easily spotted as "a total ass" and will soon be on moderation.

So I propose a Welcome Forum, which can be visited by the regulars who feel altruistic and give noobs a chance to feel comfortable. This will also keep those aggravating noob-type posts out of the lounge.

would be nice but ya know 1 step at a time lol half the board would be under moderation if the rule about harassing the noobs was a rule back then including a moderator :lol:

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Originally posted by hobbes@27 November 2003 - 11:43
Proposal by Hobbes


1. A New Arrivals or Introduce Yourself section is a rather standard part of most forums.&nbsp; This is distinct from the General Discussion section.

2. The first experience a person has on a forum, can have quite an influence on their desire to stay.&nbsp; When noobs come to the general lounge and "re-invent the wheel" there, the more senior people sometimes snap because they are tired of the same old questions and telling people to read the fucking FAQ.

3. The Arrival section would allow these rookies to get these awkward first posts out of the way in a forgiving environment, learn how to post on an online forum, and get to observe the lounge, as they learn the interpersonal "dynamics". (oh he&#39;s nice, oh, he&#39;s a joker, what the fuck is BD&#39;s problem, etc.).

4. I think everyone should be allowed to post in any forum at any time.&nbsp; I will probably never enter the Noob section unless I am feeling all warm and fuzzy or something.

5. Any regular who enters there routinely to aggrevate the noobs, will be easily spotted as "a total ass" and will soon be on moderation.

So I propose a Welcome Forum, which can be visited by the regulars who feel altruistic and give noobs a chance to feel comfortable.&nbsp; This will also keep those aggravating noob-type posts out of the lounge.

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;) Well that sounds really good Hobbes&#33; I think it could work.

:) Sowwy bout the smilies... can&#39;t seem to help myself. :P

Anyway I need them for these bits.

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I will probably never enter the Noob section unless I am feeling all warm and fuzzy or something.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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(oh he&#39;s nice, oh, he&#39;s a joker, what the fuck is BD&#39;s problem, etc.).

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/misc/bye2.gif


:) Seriously, sounds good.

UKMan, I put your &#39;what is it&#39; in Guess The Pic B)

:rolleyes:

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Originally posted by Ozbabe@26 November 2003 - 17:07
i asked the question Sniper babe, coz i couldnt do what the FAQ&#39;s said... and i was getting frustrated with it all.. :)

anyways... nite nite hon... catch up with you tomorrow or in the morning or something... :wub:

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Hi Honey, i&#39;m up ;) :wub:

Understood about getting frustrated, as its easy to get like that when thing&#39;s don&#39;t work like their ment to :)

Perhap&#39;s when a member has signed up they could be taken directly to a guide to the forum, with a menu which will answer all their questions, and then after they&#39;ve read it (and hopefully bookmarked it) they can move on to the room&#39;s? :)

As for the names &#39;noob&#39; and &#39;newbie&#39;, how about changing them to &#39;boob&#39; and &#39;boobies&#39;, would at least be more of a laugh for the guy&#39;s heh ;) Or, more seriously, something like "Fresher" (as in they&#39;ve not been tainted by all the sex talk yet heh ;)) or something, i&#39;m not really sure as i&#39;ve only been up 5 minutes and it take&#39;s my mind about 5 hour&#39;s to start working slightly lol :P :lol:

Well, i&#39;ve got some waking up to do so i&#39;m going to stop using my mind now as I can already smell bacon cooking, and will just read some threads for now and spam.. I mean reply, yea, that&#39;s what I ment heh ;)... to them in a while (unless I find any that I can&#39;t resist replying to lol) :)

Have a great morning/afternoon/evening/night all wherever you are :)

&#33;Hugs Ozbabe Honey :wub: :* &#33;

Sniper. (Once my eye&#39;s aren&#39;t so blurry still from just waking i&#39;ll look in a mirror to clarify it&#39;s really me lol)

:D boobies

:o Oh shit can we please at least be not PC?

A newbie or a nOObie, I don&#39;t think it&#39;s insulting. It&#39;s descriptive that&#39;s all.

B)

;) And why don&#39;t you boys go and make a thread where you say boobies over and over, alternating with the occasional tits or knockers. You could have a competition to see who can come up with the most names.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

open it 4 us

:lol: LMAO&#33; Okay, but it might be a while, I&#39;ve got things to do. But I will, you look out for it.

;)

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Originally posted by AussieSheila@27 November 2003 - 04:35
:o Oh shit can we please at least be not PC?

A newbie or a nOObie, I don&#39;t think it&#39;s insulting. It&#39;s descriptive that&#39;s all.

B)

;) And why don&#39;t you boys go and make a thread where you say boobies over and over, alternating with the occasional tits or knockers. You could have a competition to see who can come up with the most names.

:lol:&nbsp; :lol:&nbsp; :lol:

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heh I like your way of thinking ;) Working on it right now heh ;)

Sniper.

EDIT : Done :D :lol: Alternative names for breasts :D ;)