Cop out...yes, sure.
We may be witnessing the death throes of the Left, here and there - hope springs eternal, but then so does Socialism/Collectivism/Globalism.
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Cop out...yes, sure.
We may be witnessing the death throes of the Left, here and there - hope springs eternal, but then so does Socialism/Collectivism/Globalism.
Good early morning my friend, what gets you up so early?? Did you shit the bed:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
I just think seeing that election in the UK shows that socialism is not there cup of tea:D. And if you throw in Antisemitism you really get blown out of the water.....
The Labour Party has got to look and reflect what gave them dominance all the years, and really you can have some far out policies, but you do have to throw in a few for moderate ones as well;). I really do think that this will mirror the 2020 election in the US as well. If they get some nutbag Democratic nominee.
I agree with you buddy , But heck what do i know......
Barbs summed it up quite perfectly. From a Londoner's point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarbarossaWe already have borders and control on who comes into our country, because we used our veto and opted out of the Schengen area. You CANNOT get into the UK without a passport, even from continental Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaina
It's a complete myth we don't have border controls, hence the reason people have to resort to trying to sneak in via lorries and dinghies.
The trouble is, people cannot seem to distinguish in their minds between illegal immigrants and the legal immigration that is required to plug skills shortages, e.g. doctors, nurses, fruit pickers, etc. (Yes, it seems UK-born people are incapable of picking fruit, hence why millions of apples have rotted away on trees this year, because of a shortage of EU migrant workers!)
I think it's a language thing. Incomers to this country are always referred to as "migrants", however isn't it strange how people from this country who go and retire in Spain for example are referred to as "ex-pats"...
This whole "uncontrolled immigration" trope is a complete lie. The strain on public services is not caused by immigration, it's caused by the aging native population not dying off.
The "Boomers" clinging on to life after they've ruined the world for the rest of us... nice one. *slow hand-clap*
But people are so thick they believe anything the right-wing press spoon-feeds them.
I had an idea. London stay in the EU and the rest of England leave. Ewe nose it makes scents.
Also, most of the Americans posting in the thread seem to be vastly misinformed.
You can't enter or exit the country legally without a valid passport and in some cases a visa. Fact.
Don't forget the Canadians. Or at least one in particular. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Something Else
Feel free to un-misinform us, please - and be comprehensive, anent "vastly".Quote:
Originally Posted by Something Else
Never thought to comment on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Something Else
So what?
How many Canadians are we afflicted with?Quote:
Originally Posted by CaballeroDon't forget the Canadians. Or at least one in particular. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Something Else
I am blissfully ignorant.
If the World ends, the best thing you can hope for at that point is being the last one to know.
You know there is a difference of ignorance to not being interested. You can always say that even being a minority, your importance doesn't always reflect the majority of the population or the complete demographics of a country....Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
As your negative morbid assumption comment:), saying you are ignorant, you will never know either way buddy......
Comments like that JK24 not only shows who they voted for, it also shows the ignorance of really not knowing how the majority or the rest of there own country feels;)Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4Feel free to un-misinform us, please - and be comprehensive, anent "vastly".
Never thought to comment on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Something Else
So what?
It is like telling someone something 100 times and it is going to change to there way, like i have said myself, i have traveled across the US and been to other countries, but in all my life on this planet i have never traveled across my own country Canada, so saying i really know how they feel would just be a lie. Again the only way to tell how anyone feels is when you see how they vote, and really look at the map of your country, and look at the colors and how people really migrate to areas, then you have to look how close the race was in that state, that tells a lot....
What does this comment mean?? For someone that thinks he knows, really doesn't understand the rest of his Country does he;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Caballero
Look at the recent impeachment vote, that should tell you everything Cabby;), now you wait for the 2020 election, and let me tell you straight out, even if you had the illusion that Trump would be thrown out, and that is a real laugh!!, Pence will win in a landslide, and really the thumping would look worse for even a moderate Democrat nominee :) And Pence in my opinion is even more dangerous being way more far Right. The majority of Americans are not interested in Left Wing Socialists crap, Why the fuck would anyone want to have the Government control anything, especially if they don't have too. Wouldn't you yourself want to have more control??
Time will go fast and we will see then right....
As one Supreme Court Justice Judge said the other day "Merry Christmas" buddy to you and your family;)
Why does this sound like China all of sudden :S And now I`ll be hacked by hundreds of drones to take me out having said anything negative. UK bailing out of EU is a bummer for travel granted but trade yet to be seen (N. IRL a matter apart, no idea why we needed to hold onto that we have a rock in Gibraltar with some monkeys and Penguins in the Falklands - who needs more)
Wait a minute Gribley, forget trade as you said, know one knows yet how that will turn out, better or worse??Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribley
But seeing a comment from one of your fellow persons that i think lives in the UK says that you need to show passports or some sort of ID to travel in and out of the UK, meaning you do already have borders?? And i mean Car travel not fucking Air Travel , i mean that is common sense that you have to show a Passport or ID (EU or whatever i have no idea )..
If you travel by car , van , bus, do you have a physical border that you go through, and you show ID?? And i am talking about your next door neighbor Country??
I thought my comment Gribley was interesting, and do you actually see/look how the rest of your Country votes?? I mean on the map they show you after the elections....
Here is and may be a stupid Question, I really don't know?? Does everyone that travels in and out of Scotland, do they have to enter the rest of the UK?? If you know that i mean??
Like if they did want to separate, how would the entrance to there country really work??
The whole ID thing yes, we do require to travel.... even to S.Ireland not sure about N.Ireland. Your comments about Scots will piss off the Welsh as they too have no borders but you left `em out ;)
Prob with NI is that anyone from the EU can travel to southern Ireland (nice place, really good people - really shit road system) and can then pop over to the North and jump on a ferry to the mainland I think..... I`ve not tried it as I was hatched here.
My apologies to Welsh Gribley:fear:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribley
Interesting.
I assumed you voted, did you look at the map in perspective of how people do vote for certain parties, and do you notice a different type of culture/people vs other areas when you go from the north to the south etc....
Even a bigger laugh that you hear nothing of the Russians interfering with your elections LOL!!, i think you guys should be very angry about that LOL!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by shainaMy apologies to Welsh Gribley:fear:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribley
Interesting.
I assumed you voted, did you look at the map in perspective of how people do vote for certain parties, and do you notice a different type of culture/people vs other areas when you go from the north to the south etc....
You guys have no significant value to the rest of the world, you might as well be Canadian :sadwalk:
The EU coincides with the Maastricht Treaty of...1993, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribley
How long should you have to wait for this "trade" you speak of?
Since I don`t own a company hard to say. I expect my food bills to go up but longer term really hard to analyse.
For Shay, I wish I was Canadian. You have a pre-conception of being nice which I find strangely attractive.
I had 4 choices in my vote, (Green - libdem - labour - conservative) - I hated them all but had to go for one which was Labour
Thank you, but remember i don't do the gay thing :kiss:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribley
How does that saying go, Talk is cheap, what you do to help man (I think the Democrats want to change that verse as well) kind will live forever:idunno:, Or do the opposite that Idol does.:P
You may not want to post it in the open forum, but i be curious why you picked Labour over the others?? And did your vote count?? Did the Labour win in your area??Quote:
I had 4 choices in my vote, (Green - libdem - labour - conservative) - I hated them all but had to go for one which was Labour
I don`t swing the other way either but I like the fact it is no longer a major issue. My vote didn`t make a difference, I`m not sure I wanted it to (as they are all crap)
I really can say it happens everywhere Gribley, i have tried to say that so many times to Idol, respecting his idea that there should be more honest politicians, the problem i also see about that is even if you think a politician is honest, yet the policies/agenda he got voted in to do is never implemented, then what??Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribley
I saw today that the vote is in and the UK separation will happen by the end of Jan 2020, the people have spoken that is what they want, but of course not all;)..
Again Gribley, as long as you and your family are healthy, and happy (you know what i mean;)), what else can you say..
A man who likes to keep his options open :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribley
Never from there. I can't see how that would pleasure. Male on Male in a relationship, get that no girl drama
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Originally Posted by j2k4
Done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Something Else
So that constitutes the entirety of your concern with membership in the EU and is your sole issue with BREXIT?Quote:
Originally Posted by Something ElseDone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Something Else
I'd just like to point out that England is already separated from Europe.
Geez, does no one study geography anymore?
Also, brexit sounds like something I would apply to a rash. Couldn't your druids come up with something better than that?
As an investigator, scientist and geomorphologist, I am qualified to say that England and France are directly connected through a submarine tunnel. You can also cross the English Channel by swimming.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Fake news as I'm reasonably sure I'd drown about 2 kilometers out.Quote:
Originally Posted by dion09529
Next thing you'll be telling me I can swim to Australia because there's water involved.
Jesus Krist, I need a car to get to the grocery store and it's only three blocks.
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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
And we know that is a big fat lie:)Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
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And if it is one of your lazy days...
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Dog-sledders only have to talk a good game.
Or has Idol gone the four-legged route...
Seeing he can be a Jackass occasionally, this might be up his alley...Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
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Mainly I powerlift nowadays but that's only because I hate my joints and ligaments.
Fixed and sounds more realistic for you;)Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
I did that when I was younger, and for the same reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
I can vaguely remember masturbation. :huh:
I already gave my opinion. This was in response to whether the borders were open or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4So that constitutes the entirety of your concern with membership in the EU and is your sole issue with BREXIT?Quote:
Originally Posted by Something Else
Well, then.
I'll have to read back, unless you'd be good enough to link me?
Hope your Christmas was to your liking, you and everyone else.
Should be a day when everything goes nicely for everyone, but.
As re ideology, practice of any of them at the extremes results in excessive stooping to kiss ass and attendant medical difficulties and cost.
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Originally Posted by j2k4
Barbs summed it up quite perfectly. From a Londoner's point of view. I'm a Londoner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
Christmas, I didn't notice, apart from my local shop was closed when I needed it.
All the best to you and yours.