What about the power cable to the drive. Perhaps the connector or wire is no good. Can you try another one from the power supply?
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What about the power cable to the drive. Perhaps the connector or wire is no good. Can you try another one from the power supply?
this may have already been sedQuote:
Originally posted by Smurfette@14 December 2003 - 03:20
Hold on a minute before you junk the HDD.
WTF has drive content got to do with getting to the BIOS?
It doesn't matter what is on the HDD, it should still get to BIOS.
Can you tell us what CD/DVD drives you have installed?
What about which IDE channels the devices are on, and which are master/slave?
What's the exact model of the mobo & gfx card?
HDD crap CAN mutate the bios
ati's smartGart is known 4 this (scimanAl, good call)
check the jumpers, check the ribbon cable, and last but not least, PLEASE be sure that you are NOT plugging ur HDD in as a slave with no master on the cable. thats just st00pid, and if thats what ur doing, then thats probly the source of ur shit
Good, now that we know that you know what a post test is, perhaps you can tell us if it is doing it?Quote:
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Originally posted by raiserblade2003@14 December 2003 - 18:43
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@14 December 2003 - 18:29
Mate posting is a test it runs to check all your components are communicating with each other.If its not posting one of your parts is failing or being prevented from talking to another part like mobo>ram>cpu>devices.I know you say you've tried everything but its just got to be there some where,i'd have a fiddle in the bios and every jumper setting esp'jumpers for power related. :)
i knwo what a post test is. i didtn say i didnt. haven mess w/ bios yet, but jumper are set correctly so its not taht. maybe i should try reseting the cmos
If it is not doing a post test, the problem is not directly related to the hdd. It may be a power problem or something related to plugging the cable into the motherboard. [/b][/quote]
what's ur psu?
its post but it wont go to bios or anything,,,,just a stupid blank screen. hdd is connected to the master connector in ribbon cable. set to master or single in jumper. connected to eide 1 port.
well at least while i was messing around to see whats goin on w/ this, i discover my cpu jumpers is set to 100 instead of 133mhz. ;)
well im off to do some more fiddling.
i think it was already posted, but you cant have a winxp or 2000 install done on one machine and moved to another, the configs will be different, due to different hardware configs and mobos, and chipsets, etc....... xp takes a sorta "fingerprint" of the comp it was installed on, if you move that drive to another comp, it wont work right, if at all. some peeps may have pulled it off once or twice, but i have never had it work. i have 2 comps, so ive tried it.
nm, the freakin thing work now.....dont know y though. i took a spare ribbon cables and use that and suddenly it work....only it stop at the part when windows is about to load up. i still dont know why it didnt work b4, it cant be the ide cables becuz i try 2 b4 this one. and the 2 that i try work perfectly on the one im typing this up right now but y wont it work in the new pc?
read back 2 posts.
read back two post....Quote:
Originally posted by Mïcrösöül°V³@15 December 2003 - 02:43
read back 2 posts.
y do u want me to read my own post <_< ;)Quote:
its post but it wont go to bios or anything,,,,just a stupid blank screen. hdd is connected to the master connector in ribbon cable. set to master or single in jumper. connected to eide 1 port.
well at least while i was messing around to see whats goin on w/ this, i discover my cpu jumpers is set to 100 instead of 133mhz.
well im off to do some more fiddling.
sorry read my post to see if that helps, lol :P one page back
yea, i know that now, but what im asking is y is this ribbon cables working but the other 2 i try didnt work for my new pc. but when used on my old pc, it work fine.
btw, if you are still a bit unclear, i got the hdd to work w/ the new system after using another eide cable
i have noticed, for some screwy reason, that some cables may be designed for a P4 board, and i think the cable config is different than other boards, cuz i saw the same problem you talk about. i think its messed up also. just check to see if your cables have the little guide slot on both ends that makes sure the cable goes in the drive and the board the same way, some cables dont have one, and some cables have holes that are plugged. i know , its a pain in the ass. heres a stupid example of stupid shit, "i can plug a P4 power supply into a celeron 366mhz board, and it runs fine, BUT, i cant plug that same power supply into a P3 1ghz board!? the plugs dont match." i think the same applies to the eide cables of different comps. but hell, im no genious, just reporting what ive seen. :)
yup, my other 2 cables were form p4 system. but is there really a differenct...i mean when you buy one from the store, they didnt say which system it should be use for.
now to my other question....y isnt my frontpanle led and hdd acess led working? its just off. the wires are connected correctly but for some reason, its not working....oh well, its not that important anyways
if they are connected properly , they should light up. check and make sure they are. if im not mistaken, you can actually put those on the pins "backwards". that will make them not work.
my power LED comes on when my computer is turned off <_< dont ask why but my hdd led works.
your power LED might be like mine but id try flipping around the plugs just to see if that helps, especially since the hdd led wont work either.
Good to see you got it working. :)
The LED connectors have a correct polarity. You must have them connected backwards. Switch the connector around and the try it.Quote:
now to my other question....y isnt my frontpanle led and hdd acess led working? its just off. the wires are connected correctly but for some reason, its not working....oh well, its not that important anyways
okay ill try that, but y dont the manufactorer make them so that it only fit one way. or have it work both ways. y would they have it so it can go backward?
They make them ambidextrous just to screw with you.Quote:
Originally posted by raiserblade2003@14 December 2003 - 23:26
okay ill try that, but y dont the manufactorer make them so that it only fit one way. or have it work both ways. y would they have it so it can go backward?
They are aware of how much you enjoy groping around in inaccessible crannies with tiny connectors trying to engage little pins.
What could be more fun than that?
They make them ambidextrous just to screw with you.Quote:
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okay ill try that, but y dont the manufactorer make them so that it only fit one way. or have it work both ways. y would they have it so it can go backward?
They are aware of how much you enjoy groping around in inaccessible crannies with tiny connectors trying to engage little pins.
What could be more fun than that? [/b][/quote]
yea especially w/ my fat fingers :lol:
yea especially w/ my fat fingers :lol: [/b][/quote]Quote:
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Originally posted by clocker@15 December 2003 - 06:39
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@14 December 2003 - 23:26
okay ill try that, but y dont the manufactorer make them so that it only fit one way. or have it work both ways. y would they have it so it can go backward?
They make them ambidextrous just to screw with you.
They are aware of how much you enjoy groping around in inaccessible crannies with tiny connectors trying to engage little pins.
What could be more fun than that?
Ah! I see you understand perfectly now. :lol:
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LEDs are diodes and, as such, need to be connected correctly to work. Some power LEDs are (for want of a better word) 'multifunctinal' in that they light up a different colour when the system is in standby (as on monitors)... I haven't bothered to find out how but I suspect it may be by having a voltage passed in the other direction.
How do you tell which way round to put the connector on?
Well, pin 1 of the head is always marked (sometimes just with an arrow, sometimes with a number and sometimes it's only shown in the manual), and is positive.
Also, you may have noticed all your case LED and switch wires have one coloured wire common to all and this indicates negative. On all the cases I've worked on, the negative wires have been white.
@ raiserblade2003: You didn't answer my questions when you quoted your original posts in your reply. That doesn't matter because you've sorted the problem out now, but may I just explain why it's important to be specific?
- Motherboards can have problems that get posted about all over the net (eg I replaced a K7S5A mobo because it would lock up and overheat the chipset if the memory was set to 133MHz, which is a variation on a common problem it has) so someone here may have heard about the problem you're experiencing.
- The same applies to gfx cards - some are known to draw a lot of 'juice' or need to be firmly seated in the slot.
- Just sayng you've got a HDD and a CDRW drive and that you've checked the jumpers isn't enough when problems can arise from certain hardware. I have an Afreey DVDROM drive that won't show in my XP system (even blocks out the CDRW on the same channel) and doesn't show on my girls' ME system unless the jumper is set to CS. Some optical drives prefer to be set as master, others don't work correctly as slave to another device. FWIW, you can have a slave device without a master; my Afreey DVDROM is set to CS and appears as the secondary device because it's at the end of the cable but is the only device on that channel. Telling us what you've got and where it is helps us help you easier.
okay, what was your question again? :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by Smurfette@16 December 2003 - 00:28
<sigh>
LEDs are diodes and, as such, need to be connected correctly to work. Some power LEDs are (for want of a better word) 'multifunctinal' in that they light up a different colour when the system is in standby (as on monitors)... I haven't bothered to find out how but I suspect it may be by having a voltage passed in the other direction.
How do you tell which way round to put the connector on?
Well, pin 1 of the head is always marked (sometimes just with an arrow, sometimes with a number and sometimes it's only shown in the manual), and is positive.
Also, you may have noticed all your case LED and switch wires have one coloured wire common to all and this indicates negative. On all the cases I've worked on, the negative wires have been white.
@ raiserblade2003: You didn't answer my questions when you quoted your original posts in your reply. That doesn't matter because you've sorted the problem out now, but may I just explain why it's important to be specific?
- Motherboards can have problems that get posted about all over the net (eg I replaced a K7S5A mobo because it would lock up and overheat the chipset if the memory was set to 133MHz, which is a variation on a common problem it has) so someone here may have heard about the problem you're experiencing.
- The same applies to gfx cards - some are known to draw a lot of 'juice' or need to be firmly seated in the slot.
- Just sayng you've got a HDD and a CDRW drive and that you've checked the jumpers isn't enough when problems can arise from certain hardware. I have an Afreey DVDROM drive that won't show in my XP system (even blocks out the CDRW on the same channel) and doesn't show on my girls' ME system unless the jumper is set to CS. Some optical drives prefer to be set as master, others don't work correctly as slave to another device. FWIW, you can have a slave device without a master; my Afreey DVDROM is set to CS and appears as the secondary device because it's at the end of the cable but is the only device on that channel. Telling us what you've got and where it is helps us help you easier.
LOL :D