valcans... lolz..
hobbes IS weird recently
he's prob on drugs or somethin :blink:
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valcans... lolz..
hobbes IS weird recently
he's prob on drugs or somethin :blink:
Or Tribbles.Quote:
Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@11 January 2004 - 21:58
in the Star Trek tv shows, people who make such claims are often referred to as Vulcans.
Or Tribbles. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by clocker+12 January 2004 - 06:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 12 January 2004 - 06:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-3RA1N1AC@11 January 2004 - 21:58
in the Star Trek tv shows, people who make such claims are often referred to as Vulcans.
How troubling.
:ninja:
i realise that my next comment won't bring anything to this topic at all, but it seems fitting to post it from bash.org:
"The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?"
:)
This whole thread is wandering off topic, read the first remark. This thread is not about American citizens being blamed for the actions of their government, it's a defence of the US administration on the grounds that any other country would do the same, given the same power. This is, of course, rot! Australia was given as an example, but I can tell you right now, our government would not act in the same way, because the citizens of this country would not allow it. For one thing, we have the ability to completely change our political landscape, something the US, with it's Tweedledum\Tweedledee party politics can never achieve.Quote:
Originally posted by hobbes@11 January 2004 - 13:22
I really get so sick of USA bashing when it all comes down to impotent nations pretending that they are somehow different, when, in fact, they would be no different from the USA if they had the ability.
When an uncontested super power appears upon the Earth you will know it by this sign, the impotent will join in a confederacy against it.
Really, it is simple human psychology. All men/nations want autonomy over their lives, their destiny. When this is removed, it causes unrest, anger, and resentment.
Like all the low level workers who gather in the break room talking about how stupid their boss is, slapping each other on the back and laughing. They discredit any achievements of the boss as a ruse to mask their impotence. They demean the boss and his integrity. They wouldn't be caught dead being such an ass kissing low life as their boss who was obviously pandered to all his live.
The Boss acts without caring about others. Yeah, like any country, ever, has passed up something to strengthen itself because it wouldn't be "nice". Humans are humans.
So all I see is anger and specious moral high ground acting as a facade to mask fear and impotence.
That's all you see?Quote:
So all I see is anger and specious moral high ground acting as a facade to mask fear and impotence.
:)
:blink: :huh: :blink: :huh: What dat mean? I'm American.Quote:
Originally posted by 4th gen@12 January 2004 - 06:46
i realise that my next comment won't bring anything to this topic at all, but it seems fitting to post it from bash.org:
"The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?"
:)
bravo, busyman :lol:
braVO!!
:blink: :huh: :blink: :huh: What dat mean? I'm American. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by Busyman+12 January 2004 - 05:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 12 January 2004 - 05:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-4th gen@12 January 2004 - 06:46
i realise that my next comment won't bring anything to this topic at all, but it seems fitting to post it from bash.org:
"The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?"
:)
:lol:
I realise that the quote below won't bring anything to this topic at all either, but it too seems fitting to post it, and I find it insanely funny, if barely likely to be true:
Quote:
This is the transcript of the actual radio conversation of a US Naval ship with the Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in Oct 1995.
Radio conversation released by chief of naval operations 10/10/95.
Canadians: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
Americans: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the north.
Canadians: Negative. you will have to divert your course 15 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
Americans: This is the captain of a US navy ship. I say again, divert your course.
Canadians: No. I say again, divert your course.
Americans: This is the aircraft carrier USS Lincoln. the second biggest ship in the United States Atlantic fleet. We are accompanied by three destroyers, three cruisers and numerous support vessels. I demand that you change your course 15 degrees north, that's one five degrees north, or counter measures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship.
Canadians: We are a lighthouse. Your call.
FUNNY AS SHIT!!!!! :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by barbarossa@12 January 2004 - 15:13
I realise that the quote below won't bring anything to this topic at all either, but it too seems fitting to post it, and I find it insanely funny, if barely likely to be true:
Quote:
This is the transcript of the actual radio conversation of a US Naval ship with the Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in Oct 1995.
Radio conversation released by chief of naval operations 10/10/95.
Canadians: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
Americans: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the north.
Canadians: Negative. you will have to divert your course 15 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
Americans: This is the captain of a US navy ship. I say again, divert your course.
Canadians: No. I say again, divert your course.
Americans: This is the aircraft carrier USS Lincoln. the second biggest ship in the United States Atlantic fleet. We are accompanied by three destroyers, three cruisers and numerous support vessels. I demand that you change your course 15 degrees north, that's one five degrees north, or counter measures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship.
Canadians: We are a lighthouse. Your call.
Just doing my share to help out in the fight against American intelligence is all. :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@12 January 2004 - 08:31
bravo, busyman :lol:
braVO!!
:) ok then hows this for an americans view of the world :)
http://www.zigzap.com/up/world-usa.gif
Or is that to simple for you all?
There ya go.
There are alot of dumb American jokes out there.
Interesting that America is a superpower yet we are stupid.
Must not be too dumb.
Foreigners including the Arabs that hate us send their kids here to go to school.
I take it all foreign governments are ultra smart. I think not.
btw there people ALL OVER the world that think like the above pic. :lol: :lol:
doesn't take intelligence to be a superpower ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Busyman@12 January 2004 - 14:36
Interesting that America is a superpower yet we are stupid.
Must not be too dumb.
doesn't take intelligence to be a superpower ;) [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by 4th gen+12 January 2004 - 16:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 12 January 2004 - 16:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@12 January 2004 - 14:36
Interesting that America is a superpower yet we are stupid.
Must not be too dumb.
It takes more than you think 4th gen.
Especially when not run by a dictator.
it seems all the U.S. needs is a lot of nuclear weapons and the 'balls' to fight anyone who pisses them off... ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Busyman@12 January 2004 - 15:01
It takes more than you think 4th gen.
Especially when not run by a dictator.
It takes intelligence to get nuclear weapons.
Whether procured or invented.
In the US it was not always this way of "fighting anyone who pisses us off".
After WWII there was a dramatic shift in foreign policy.
By leaving "the world" alone, the world almost had an evil dictator.
if money = intelligence then you're rightQuote:
Originally posted by Busyman@12 January 2004 - 15:08
It takes intelligence to get nuclear weapons.
Whether procured or invented.
if money = intelligence then you're right [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by 4th gen+12 January 2004 - 17:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 12 January 2004 - 17:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@12 January 2004 - 15:08
It takes intelligence to get nuclear weapons.
Whether procured or invented.
How do you get money if you are not born into it?
Or hit the lottery? :lol:
you use slave workers to mine your gold :)Quote:
Originally posted by Busyman@12 January 2004 - 15:27
How do you get money if you are not born into it?
Or hit the lottery? :lol:
and you buy alaska for next to nothing from the russians, then exploit the oil reserves (now, where have i heard that before...?) :)
you use slave workers to mine your gold :) [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by 4th gen+12 January 2004 - 17:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 12 January 2004 - 17:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@12 January 2004 - 15:27
How do you get money if you are not born into it?
Or hit the lottery? :lol:
Oh and that's not smart? Have someone else do work for you for free.
Blacks helped build this country for free with no choice I might add.
are you proud of your country doing that?Quote:
Originally posted by Busyman@12 January 2004 - 15:32
Oh and that's not smart? Have someone else do work for you for free.
Blacks helped build this country for free with no choice I might add.
Fuuuuck no!!! I'm black myself.
I didn't say it was right.
Any black historian will tell you they same thing.
i can't keep this discussion going, it's a pointless waste of timeQuote:
Originally posted by Busyman@12 January 2004 - 15:36
Fuuuuck no!!! I'm black myself.
I didn't say it was right.
Any black historian will tell you they same thing.
i don't like america, it's as simple as that
where is my biatch?
*grabs shotty*
i feel safe now :lol:
i can't keep this discussion going, it's a pointless waste of timeQuote:
Originally posted by 4th gen+12 January 2004 - 17:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 12 January 2004 - 17:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@12 January 2004 - 15:36
Fuuuuck no!!! I'm black myself.
I didn't say it was right.
Any black historian will tell you they same thing.
i don't like america, it's as simple as that [/b][/quote]
Oh wow I didn't know it was quite like that. :o
It's a waste of time when your point is shit. I know man.
Hell "I" don't like MOST of the politicians in office.
You don't like us...
Oh well fuck off then....... <_<
i said that i didn't like americaQuote:
Originally posted by Busyman@12 January 2004 - 15:47
Oh wow I didn't know it was quite like that. :o
It's a waste of time when your point is shit. I know man.
Hell "I" don't like MOST of the politicians in office.
You don't like us...
Oh well fuck off then....... <_<
there's a difference between not liking america and not liking americans... :)
Every country HAS done what the US is accused of, especially the European Colonial countries like the UK.
It was wrong then, its still wrong now..
However, just as all Brits werent and arent the same as the people in power at the time, the US citizens arent the same as the US Government.
The main difference these days is that the world is a much smaller place, and people find out about the shit....its much harder to not get caught out by your citizens these days.
I am critical of anything i see as unjust, wether its by my own Government, the US Government or anyone elses..but I am open to the fact its what I perceive to be unjust...others are free to disagree.
The Americans have no monopoly on stupid people...I believe our % of morons are about the same. I believe sometimes however; that when someone comments on "Stupid Americans" they are commenting on the Government...the citizens dont make the stupid regulations, laws and wars that they are calling "Stupid"...
I think its like, as an example...Im free to call my sister a bitch, but outsiders arent... We get very protective of our families and countries, even if we agree with whats being said sometimes....its the way its being said, and who is saying it...
As to Billy_Dean....Australia has never been in the position, however if their treatment of refugees etc is anything to go by, then the Australian citizens may have a lot less actual control than he perceives; if they ever are in that position...
May I just point out that anyone that actually wants the job of running a nation....has already demonstrated that they are unfit to govern in my opinion. Meglomaniacs are two a penny in the world, and shit rises to the top a lot more often than cream does...just my 2 pennyworth...
i said that i didn't like americaQuote:
Originally posted by 4th gen+12 January 2004 - 17:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 12 January 2004 - 17:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@12 January 2004 - 15:47
Oh wow I didn't know it was quite like that. :o
It's a waste of time when your point is shit. I know man.
Hell "I" don't like MOST of the politicians in office.
You don't like us...
Oh well fuck off then....... <_<
there's a difference between not liking america and not liking americans... :) [/b][/quote]
When you say you "dont like America" what exactly do you mean, then? That you dont like the land that they live on? :blink:
What is a country without the people that inhabit it?
i said that i didn't like americaQuote:
Originally posted by 4th gen+12 January 2004 - 17:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 12 January 2004 - 17:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@12 January 2004 - 15:47
Oh wow I didn't know it was quite like that. :o
It's a waste of time when your point is shit. I know man.
Hell "I" don't like MOST of the politicians in office.
You don't like us...
Oh well fuck off then....... <_<
there's a difference between not liking america and not liking americans... :) [/b][/quote]
I wholeheartedly apologize.
Hard to differentiate the two though when you make jokes (which were quite funny) and then say you don;t like America.
No prob 4th gen ;)
When you say you "dont like America" what exactly do you mean, then? That you dont like the land that they live on? :blink:Quote:
Originally posted by alpha+12 January 2004 - 18:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (alpha @ 12 January 2004 - 18:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by 4th gen@12 January 2004 - 17:55
<!--QuoteBegin-Busyman
Quote:
@12 January 2004 - 15:47
Oh wow I didn't know it was quite like that. :o
It's a waste of time when your point is shit. I know man.
Hell "I" don't like MOST of the politicians in office.
You don't like us...
Oh well fuck off then....... <_<
i said that i didn't like america
there's a difference between not liking america and not liking americans... :)
What is a country without the people that inhabit it? [/b][/quote]
I think he's referring to American foreign policy.
As a foreigner, that is only thing I can fathom 4th gen having a problem with.
Are you disallowing for the fact that people of different cultures may react differently to different situations?Quote:
Originally posted by hobbes@11 January 2004 - 05:22
I really get so sick of USA bashing when it all comes down to impotent nations pretending that they are somehow different, when, in fact, they would be no different from the USA if they had the ability.
That's a rather narrow perspective.
Quote:
Originally posted by Busyman@12 January 2004 - 17:10
What is a country without the people that inhabit it?
I think he's referring to American foreign policy.
As a foreigner, that is only thing I can fathom 4th gen having a problem with. [/quote]
that and the fact that we don't spell words like colour correctly :lol:
that and the fact that we don't spell words like colour correctly :lol: [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by vidcc+12 January 2004 - 17:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (vidcc @ 12 January 2004 - 17:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@12 January 2004 - 17:10
I think he's referring to American foreign policy.Quote:
What is a country without the people that inhabit it?
As a foreigner, that is only thing I can fathom 4th gen having a problem with.
an divvent speak propa like wot we do...
sup rat faced hows it going :lol: ;) long time no see
I am a bit perplexed by this statement.Quote:
Originally posted by 4th gen@12 January 2004 - 12:30
and you buy alaska for next to nothing from the russians, then exploit the oil reserves (now, where have i heard that before...?) :)
We picked up Alaska from the Russians; true.
We got a terrific deal; true.
Are you implying we somehow used the Russians in the process?
That the Russians allowed themselves to be duped?
I myself am not wild about the Russians, but I would be loathe to insinuate they are somehow incapable of proper negotiation.
Also:
There is oil in Alaska, which, by-and-large, we have not extracted.
Why do you insist on the pejorative "exploit"?
Does this mean you believe the entire middle-east is "exploiting" their oil supplies?
Or Russia? Or Venezuela?
Are you anti-oil, too?
I suggest you park your little Ford, then.
Swear off plastics while you're at it.
:)
if america didn't supersize their engines then the current oil situation would be much better :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by j2k4@12 January 2004 - 17:29
I suggest you park your little Ford, then.
Swear off plastics while you're at it.
if america didn't supersize their engines then the current oil situation would be much better :lol: [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by 4th gen+12 January 2004 - 18:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 12 January 2004 - 18:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@12 January 2004 - 17:29
I suggest you park your little Ford, then.
Swear off plastics while you're at it.
it will never happen with petrol being so cheap...with the current exchange rate petrol is about 80 pence per gallon
petrol in the uk is 80 pence per litreQuote:
Originally posted by vidcc@12 January 2004 - 17:49
it will never happen with petrol being so cheap...with the current exchange rate petrol is about 80 pence per gallon
perhaps america could think about the rest of the world...?
or maybe they'll just go for bush's favourite measure and plant some petrol trees (reference to bush's solution to co2 pollution/global warming (not that i subscribe to the global warming theory))