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1.basketball
2.skiing
3.table tennis
I like midget-throwing!!!
And cowtipping!!!
And ladies mudwrestling........
And live chessmatches!!!
Camelraces are cool.......
Haggis Hurling!! Demonstratonal sport at coming olympics!!)
What is haggis-hurling??
Bog snorkelling is real cool!!
http://www1.britishcouncil.org/japan...er-330x220.jpg
Etc, etc, just love sports!!!
Yogi
lol
mud fight :lol:
ROTFLMAO!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by SensualGardening@19 January 2004 - 19:35
I like midget-throwing!!!
And cowtipping!!!
And ladies mudwrestling........
And live chessmatches!!!
Camelraces are cool.......
Haggis Hurling!! Demonstratonal sport at coming olympics!!)
What is haggis-hurling??
Bog snorkelling is real cool!!
http://www1.britishcouncil.org/japan...er-330x220.jpg
Etc, etc, just love sports!!!
Yogi
tralalala
i can't really decide its like a tie between basketball and baseball
1. table tennis.
2. soccer.
3. tennis.
4. ice skating.
5. F1 racing.
I think the reproducibly most exciting sporting event would have to be the NCAA mens college basketball tournament.
It brings out all those conference rivalries (Big 12 asserts its supremacy) and there are always those "Cinderella" stories.
Plus it occurs over Spring Break when all college students have to do is drink beer and get some sun on South Padre Island.
http://www.sanddollar-realty.com/texmap1.gif http://www.babylane.net/mikeimages/s...2/Mvc-123s.jpg
Hockey. I love hockey. I live and breathe hockey. When I'm not on crutches, I play hockey. When hockey season ends, I cry. Especially when the Leafs suck in the playoffs - so yeah, I cry a lot... and I swear a lot (Rat Faced will attest to this).
I love American Football. I coached football in High School, because I was a girl and they wouldn't let me play it. I also swear a lot when watching football. And yes, I am one of those people who thinks that by screaming loudly at the television that I can change the outcome of a game. I'm certain at one point yesterday, in the 4th quarter of the Colts-Pats game that the referee heard me calling him a useless f*** when he failed 3 times to call pass interference.
I also love Gymnastics - yeah, strange considering the other sports I like. I took Gymnastics for 12 years, and competed nationally for the last three of those years. It was my life until I was 15 (almost 16) years old. It only took and blown ACL and a pathetic health care system to kill my career in the sport. I still take part in the sport, doing photography for meets all over Canada in which my cousins (aged 14 and 17 and ranked 1st and 7th in their respective divisions in Men's) are competing in. And for anyone who thinks it's a "pussy sport", as I've so often heard it called, I'll ask you to look at my 17 year old cousin's 16 inch biceps and repeat that statement. ;)
I'm not at all passionate about sports though. :lol:
IKE is an undercover F1 racer guys!!!Quote:
Originally posted by {I}{K}{E}@19 January 2004 - 21:08
5. F1 racing.
he could be schummi, or ralf, or jack, or eddie... who knows?!?!?! :lol: :lol:
tralalala
p.s: IKE, give us a hint... what car you drivin during the races? :lol:
Well, since Jonno doesn't seem to be here, I'll have to say it myself:Quote:
Originally posted by NikkiD@19 January 2004 - 19:46
I'll ask you to look at my 17 year old cousin's 16 inch biceps and repeat that statement. ;)
We don't care about your cousin's biceps, we wanna see you in tight gymnastics outfit!!! http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smi...00tdribble.gif
BTW, I like Kendo, but can't find a decent dojo around here...
Erm... Gurahl... note the age... 15... I was underage!!
Ah, nikki, just when I needed a mod!Quote:
Originally posted by NikkiD@19 January 2004 - 21:15
Erm... Gurahl... note the age... 15... I was underage!!
Someone hacked my post and made me look like a complete twat... Can you do something about it?
:">
Well I was about 15 when you were........So would it beQuote:
Originally posted by NikkiD@19 January 2004 - 16:15
Erm... Gurahl... note the age... 15... I was underage!!
wrong to daydream? ;)
Peace brotherdoobie
lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I blew both of my ACL's playing basketball and tore my meniscus in my left knee (Glucosamine Chondroitin helps regrow cartilage). Now I play without them just fine (I never got reconstruction). The thing is I don't dunk anymore and am not as "fearless" as I use to be (I learned basketball very late; about 17 yrs old).Quote:
Originally posted by NikkiD@19 January 2004 - 20:46
It only took and blown ACL and a pathetic health care system to kill my career in the sport.
I'm not at all passionate about sports though. :lol:
I played football, ran track (distance and sprint), and now I shoot pool. I still play a little football whenever I can get the fellas together in the fall and winter.
:) Motocross
i would have to say extreme outdoor ironing.
:lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by Spider_dude@19 January 2004 - 17:23
i would have to say extreme outdoor ironing.
I blew both of my ACL's playing basketball and tore my meniscus in my left knee (Glucosamine Chondroitin helps regrow cartilage). Now I play without them just fine (I never got reconstruction). The thing is I don't dunk anymore and am not as "fearless" as I use to be (I learned basketball very late; about 17 yrs old).Quote:
Originally posted by Busyman+19 January 2004 - 18:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 19 January 2004 - 18:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-NikkiD@19 January 2004 - 20:46
It only took and blown ACL and a pathetic health care system to kill my career in the sport.
I'm not at all passionate about sports though. :lol:
I played football, ran track (distance and sprint), and now I shoot pool. I still play a little football whenever I can get the fellas together in the fall and winter. [/b][/quote]
I'll look into the Glucosamine Chondroitin - I'm going in for another surgery sometime this year - I've been waiting for an MRI since July when I tore my knee up badly again - they know I've torn the lateral and medial meniscus (again, which they've sewn up a total of 7 times now) and they think I've stretched the tendon which now suffices as my ACL - so that needs to be fixed again too - I'm too active on it, and if they don't fix it it'll just keep getting worse. I wouldn't bother, but I can't walk over uneven ground or pivot on it at all, it totally gives out on me, and I need to do both of these at work on a daily basis, so I'm pretty useless without the surgery. Or at least I feel like it. :rolleyes:
Save your money Nikki, Glucosamine Chondroitin is of no help at all. Sure, it is what cartilage is made of, but the body does not absorb it whole. It breaks it apart and has to reassemble it in the joint.
If your diet is decent, you have more than enough building blocks to create more cartilage.
The problem is that when cartilage is denuded, there are no progenitor cells available for repair.
Your problems stem from ligamentous instability, not a lack of cartilage. If your knee "locks" you may have some loose pieces of cartilage that need to be removed by endoscopy.
Wow... you're good...Quote:
Originally posted by hobbes@19 January 2004 - 22:09
Save your money Nikki, Glucosamine Chondroitin is of no help at all. Sure, it is what cartilege is made of, but the body does not absorb it whole. It breaks it apart and has to reassemble it in the joint.
If your diet is decent, you have more than enough building blocks to create more cartilage.
The problem is that when cartilage is dunuded, there are no progenitor cells available for repair.
Your problems stem from ligamentous instability, not a lack of cartilage. If your knee "locks" you may have some loose pieces of cartilage that need to be removed by endoscopy.
That's exactly the problem, and they will be fixing both - the ligament and the cartilage. According to the surgeon, there's not much sense in removing or repairing the torn meniscus while the ligament (well, tendon wrapped with reinforcement) is unstable, as it will just tear again. And the degree of lateral shift is great enough that I would appear to have damaged the ACL again. Hence the MRI - to conclude whether this is to be a hospital stay or outpatient surgery, and which surgeon will be performing the operation.
I had that same knee locking problem. I would play basketball, come down wrong and it felt like my leg was broken. I would hobble to the bleachers, straighten my knee out and hear and feel a click then the pain would be gone (weird).
Your right hobbes in that Glucosamine Chondroitin does nothing for ligaments but your advice of absolutely NOT using it for damaged cartilage is not sound. Nikki you should consult your doctor's AFTER your surgery as to whether using the product won't help.
People in our situation will most likely be looking forward to arthritis. I was slightly lucky in that I can do without ACL reconstruction (most cannot). I tore mine partially because I'm bowlegged. My surgeon advised me that a reconstructed ACL will "feel" better than it actually is. Basketball player Danny Manning tore his twice in one leg, once in the other.
My meniscus, when it was injured, was wedged in my knee in a fashion that I couldn't straighten my leg out. The surgeon slipped the meniscus from in between that part of my knee and basically trimmed the damaged cartilage. I had localized anesthesia and watched the arthroscopic surgery on a monitor. During the surgery he saw that I had no ACL (which is probably why it was easy to tear my meniscus).
Again hobbes and Nikki, the ligament is absolutely the greater problem. I believe it's the reason I tore my meniscus. After that is "fixed" though Nikki, remember the arthritis that is sure to come. Glucosamine Chondroitine as a supplement has been shown in numerous independent studies to regrow cartilage.
I have not had knee problems for 7 years.
I have no ACL's.
I have been taking the supplement for awhile now.
I get some arthritis pain in extreme cold every blue moon. I only can imagine the pain had I not been taking the supplement.
My surgeon is actually amazed that I still play basketball at an extreme level.
My surgeon also told me there are some who don't recommend the supplement (due to "job security"). He is extremely blunt. My surgeon was Dr. Vetter in Maryland.
Busyman,
There is popular medicine and there is proven medicine.
I will firmly stand by my statement that Glucosamine Chondroitin is totally worthless. I don't care what some medical reports say. Doctors used to treat high blood pressure with salt restriction before they understood that if the body had too much salt, it got pissed out. Medical literature is full of so much bullshit. Broccoli prevents prostate cancer, Vitamin C prevents whatever. This popular medicine crap is to give people a feeling of control over their destiny, check back in 10 years, all this shit will fade.
A balanced healthy diet is all anyone needs.
As you know, I have no agenda, just want to save Nikki some cash.
I respect your opinion hobbie.Quote:
Originally posted by hobbes@20 January 2004 - 05:32
Busyman,
There is popular medicine and there is proven medicine.
I will firmly stand by my statement that Glucosamine Chondroitin is totally worthless. I don't care what some medical reports say. Doctors used to treat high blood pressure with salt restriction before they understood that if the body had too much salt, it got pissed out. Medical literature is full of so much bullshit. Broccoli prevents prostate cancer, Vitamin C prevents whatever. This popular medicine crap is to give people a feeling of control over their destiny, check back in 10 years, all this shit will fade.
A balanced healthy diet is all anyone needs.
As you know, I have no agenda, just want to save Nikki some cash.
My point is, because I am also a skeptic of sorts, is you don't KNOW that it DOESN'T work. I am familiar with companies that have THEIR scientists do a study for them to back up THEIR agenda. I gotcha.
At the same time it is a little irresponsible to say to a person "like" myself who is almost guaranteed to be arthritic to absolutely deny that it doesn't work.
Hell I'm scared of LASIK vision correction for some of the same reasons even though there is new Wavefront technology.
For every report that says one thing, there might be 3 that say the opposite. Tried and true medical findings have been refuted in this day and age.
I do care what medical reports say.
Ya just gotta read more than the one in your doctor's office. ;)
I just understand physiology.
All ingested substances are broken down into their basic components, not abosrbed whole.
So your Glucosamine Chondrotin is broken into to tens of thousands of little pieces and absorbed. To think that it magically reassembles in joints is a fairy tale the manufacturers tell you.
Most diets have enoungh nutrients to make this stuff, without supplementation.
All the supplements give you is the components to make cartilage, these components are abundanet in anyones normal diet. Somehow people think that the molecule is absorbed whole and transported to your joints, this is absolutely false.
Well when body builders take creatine supplements, it increases muscle water retention yet creatine is gained naturally in foods.Quote:
Originally posted by hobbes@20 January 2004 - 05:55
I just understand physiology.
All ingested substances are broken down into their basic components, not abosrbed whole.
So your Glucosamine Chondrotin is broken into to tens of thousands of little pieces and absorbed. To think that it magically reassembles in joints is a fairy tale the manufacturers tell you.
Most diets have enoungh nutrients to make this stuff, without supplementation.
All the supplements give you is the components to make cartilage, these components are abundanet in anyones normal diet. Somehow people think that the molecule is absorbed whole and transported to your joints, this is absolutely false.
However one does not get enough creatine from foods to cause this to any significant degree.
You get amino acids from beef and other foods. How does it know to go help muscle growth?
How does Tylenol know where to stop the pain? It's magic that's what. :lol: :lol:
As they say in the UK
Cheers hobbes!!! :D
Cheers, indeed! :lol: :lol: :lol:
My brother used to do gymnastics pretty seriously (ever heard of Mitch Fenner Nikki? - he was his coach) and when doing a somersault he managed to put his teeth through his bottom lip and about an inch into his knee. Made me feel pretty ill... :x
Seriously, all those supplements are just to make money, they have no real effect.
I would make an exception for hormones, which tell the body how to handle what it has available. Steroids are some dangerous, but very effective molecules.
Busyman, I was a very serious weightlifter 10 years ago, all I needed to go from 150 to 200 was dormatory food and some weightlifting resolve. That took only 5 months.
My mother told me that my transformation was surreal. I was accused of being on steroids. It was just hard work and dorm food, I didn't have the cash for anything else.
I agree hobbes. Supplements are alot of times used as a shortcut. Years ago all of these supplements didn't even exist. All supplements are not placebos though.Quote:
Originally posted by hobbes@20 January 2004 - 06:42
Seriously, all those supplements are just to make money, they have no real effect.
I would make an exception for hormones, which tell the body how to handle what it has available. Steroids are some dangerous, but very effective molecules.
Busyman, I was a very serious weightlifter 10 years ago, all I needed to go from 150 to 200 was dormatory food and some weightlifting resolve. That took only 5 months.
My mother told me that my transformation was surreal. I was accused of being on steroids. It was just hard work and dorm food, I didn't have the cash for anything else.
Again look at the creatine example. Not saying you NEED creatine but your saying it has NO EFFECT and that is false.
I agree hobbes. Supplements are alot of times used as a shortcut. Years ago all of these supplements didn't even exist. All supplements are not placebos though.Quote:
Originally posted by Busyman+20 January 2004 - 06:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 20 January 2004 - 06:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@20 January 2004 - 06:42
Seriously, all those supplements are just to make money, they have no real effect.
I would make an exception for hormones, which tell the body how to handle what it has available. Steroids are some dangerous, but very effective molecules.
Busyman, I was a very serious weightlifter 10 years ago, all I needed to go from 150 to 200 was dormatory food and some weightlifting resolve. That took only 5 months.
My mother told me that my transformation was surreal. I was accused of being on steroids. It was just hard work and dorm food, I didn't have the cash for anything else.
Again look at the creatine example. Not saying you NEED creatine but your saying it has NO EFFECT and that is false. [/b][/quote]
Sure, ok buddy, I will not spout absolutes.
But then again, I am the white devil :lol: :lol: :lol:
fo' shizzle dizzle!! :D
(sorry just wanted to say that)
Aww man you white?!!! Me too fukkk...in A man!!!Quote:
Originally posted by hobbes@20 January 2004 - 06:50
But then again, I am the white devil :lol: :lol: :lol:
"sike"