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ok. so i should stick with the corsair ram i have up there? [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+19 January 2004 - 13:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 19 January 2004 - 13:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 12:47
Level 2 has better timings. 2-2-2-6 instead of 2-3-2-7. You can change the timings probably..its just that with level 2 its garunteed to run at 2-2-2-6.
Yes, since they dont have any Level II mushkin ram...I would get the corsair you listed above.
Yes, since they dont have any Level II mushkin ram...I would get the corsair you listed above. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+19 January 2004 - 15:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 19 January 2004 - 15:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@19 January 2004 - 13:42
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@19 January 2004 - 12:47
Level 2 has better timings. 2-2-2-6 instead of 2-3-2-7. You can change the timings probably..its just that with level 2 its garunteed to run at 2-2-2-6.
ok. so i should stick with the corsair ram i have up there?
do i need to keep the timings at 2-2-2-6? can't i just use the original timings and still oc?
I dont quite understand what your asking, but you should just leave them on factory settings if your getting the corsair probably. The corsair is 2-3-2-7 I think. The level II mushkin is 2-2-2-6. There both really good, but newegg doesnt have the mushkin level 2. I would get the original corsair you listed above.
yea, that's what i'm doing. but wat i'm asking is do i have to tweak the memory timings to oc? i don't think it's really necessary.Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 16:02
I dont quite understand what your asking, but you should just leave them on factory settings if your getting the corsair probably. The corsair is 2-3-2-7 I think. The level II mushkin is 2-2-2-6. There both really good, but newegg doesnt have the mushkin level 2. I would get the original corsair you listed above.
i'm kinda caught in a problem here. i just looked into both the asus p4p800 and the is7, and i think the is7 might actually be better. both have sata support, and the p4p800 doesn't have firewire ports. the is7 has a better onboard audio thing too. wat's up? the is7 is cheaper too
which one is better? help? anyone? :helpsmile: :helpsmile: :frusty:Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@19 January 2004 - 16:28
i'm kinda caught in a problem here. i just looked into both the asus p4p800 and the is7, and i think the is7 might actually be better. both have sata support, and the p4p800 doesn't have firewire ports. the is7 has a better onboard audio thing too. wat's up? the is7 is cheaper too
With the asus your paying extra for the name keep in mind. The asus looks awesome, and I dont ever use firewire, so I would get the Asus prob...And no you dont have to tweak your memory timings to overclock.
thanks. well, abit is pretty big in the oc world too. and i sometimes do use firewire. it's either firewire and better audio or that hyperpath thing that asus has which makes it as fast as the 875's. hmmmm.... (in deep thought) hmm.....Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 18:47
With the asus your paying extra for the name keep in mind. The asus looks awesome, and I dont ever use firewire, so I would get the Asus prob...And no you dont have to tweak your memory timings to overclock.
WHAT IN THE WORLD does that mean?Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 16:47
With the asus your paying extra for the name keep in mind.
So you pay money just for a brand and not for actual performance?
Its like nike shoes..they just cost more..like intel..like anything else in this world..remember guys he never tries to start fights..i knew before i posted that he would be the first one to quote me with something gay...what i said made perfect since.
thanks. well, abit is pretty big in the oc world too. and i sometimes do use firewire. it's either firewire and better audio or that hyperpath thing that asus has which makes it as fast as the 875's. hmmmm.... (in deep thought) hmm..... [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+19 January 2004 - 17:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 19 January 2004 - 17:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 18:47
With the asus your paying extra for the name keep in mind. The asus looks awesome, and I dont ever use firewire, so I would get the Asus prob...And no you dont have to tweak your memory timings to overclock.
tought choice...what kind of speakers do you use? you might not even need the 6.1 or w/e.
tought choice...what kind of speakers do you use? you might not even need the 6.1 or w/e. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+19 January 2004 - 19:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 19 January 2004 - 19:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@19 January 2004 - 17:50
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@19 January 2004 - 18:47
With the asus your paying extra for the name keep in mind. The asus looks awesome, and I dont ever use firewire, so I would get the Asus prob...And no you dont have to tweak your memory timings to overclock.
thanks. well, abit is pretty big in the oc world too. and i sometimes do use firewire. it's either firewire and better audio or that hyperpath thing that asus has which makes it as fast as the 875's. hmmmm.... (in deep thought) hmm.....
i'm getting subwoofers soon
tought choice...what kind of speakers do you use? you might not even need the 6.1 or w/e. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+19 January 2004 - 19:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 19 January 2004 - 19:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@19 January 2004 - 17:50
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@19 January 2004 - 18:47
With the asus your paying extra for the name keep in mind. The asus looks awesome, and I dont ever use firewire, so I would get the Asus prob...And no you dont have to tweak your memory timings to overclock.
thanks. well, abit is pretty big in the oc world too. and i sometimes do use firewire. it's either firewire and better audio or that hyperpath thing that asus has which makes it as fast as the 875's. hmmmm.... (in deep thought) hmm.....
the abit is cheaper, has all the features of asus, except for the hyperpath thing
Lol you amaze me. I bet if a snake was in front of you it would bit you.Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 17:00
Its like nike shoes..they just cost more..like intel..like anything else in this world..remember guys he never tries to start fights..i knew before i posted that he would be the first one to quote me with something gay...what i said made perfect since.
Yes what you said made perfect SENSE
However I had to ask - you don't seem to know enough about computers to say something like that.
By the way.... what about nike shoes? I don't buy nike shoes. And what about Intel? You use AMD, don't you?
Lol you amaze me. I bet if a snake was in front of you it would bit you.Quote:
Originally posted by DWk+19 January 2004 - 20:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 19 January 2004 - 20:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 17:00
Its like nike shoes..they just cost more..like intel..like anything else in this world..remember guys he never tries to start fights..i knew before i posted that he would be the first one to quote me with something gay...what i said made perfect since.
Yes what you said made perfect SENSE
However I had to ask - you don't seem to know enough about computers to say something like that.
By the way.... what about nike shoes? I don't buy nike shoes. And what about Intel? You use AMD, don't you? [/b][/quote]
lets not turn this thread into a verbal dueling room like the others.
somebody give me some suggestions? i'm stuck between the abit and the asus, and i'm not sure which one to get... EEEEJKKKK :wacko:
I agree. <_< And for someone who says he doesn't start fights... I must say that you do come up with some controversial statements to get people going (poke... poke... poke...).Quote:
lets not turn this thread into a verbal dueling room like the others.
About the MB... I would say go with the Asus but that's just my opinion. (could be influenced by the fact that I had an Abit die on me lately. :( )
how did it die? it just died, or u did something wrongQuote:
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@19 January 2004 - 21:41
I agree. <_< And for someone who says he doesn't start fights... I must say that you do come up with some controversial statements to get people going (poke... poke... poke...).Quote:
lets not turn this thread into a verbal dueling room like the others.
About the MB... I would say go with the Asus but that's just my opinion. (could be influenced by the fact that I had an Abit die on me lately. :( )
I would get the asus.
And I think I know enough about computers to say that Asus cost more for the same features as other companies sometimes...and get some shox...ull start buying nikes haha
It just died. I tried evey trick in the book and still dead. Lost all the data in the RAID 0 setup I had too. All the other parts of the system were still good.Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@19 January 2004 - 20:45
how did it die? it just died, or u did something wrong
i wear nikes. lol. anyways, i know the asus board has it's good features, such as ai ocing (prob not very useful, for the idiot noobies), that hyperpath thing, and a good name.Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 21:51
I would get the asus.
And I think I know enough about computers to say that Asus cost more for the same features as other companies sometimes...and get some shox...ull start buying nikes haha
the abit has: pretty good name, regular bios, firewire, better onboard sound, and it has a fan for the chipset. hmmm......
@VB, that sucks. was there a power surge or soemthing? usually mobo's just don't die unless something happened. look at my old hp. i've used it for 4.5 years, and no hardware probs at all! kinda surprising
yeah same with my 3 year old dell lol..they might not be the best bang for the buck...buttt they will last usually, due to testing before there shipped out.
I know it's kind of surprising but it happened. I don't know if it was a power surge that caused it but it was the only part that died. If it was a power surge then I would think other parts would have gone also. It had run for a little over a year (I never even tried to claim warranty).Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@19 January 2004 - 20:59
@VB, that sucks. was there a power surge or soemthing? usually mobo's just don't die unless something happened. look at my old hp. i've used it for 4.5 years, and no hardware probs at all! kinda surprising
so wat should i do bout my mobo dilemma ppl? the abit is cheaper, and has firewire. the asus is more expensive, and doesn't have firewire. other than that, theres only the hyperpath difference. :unsure: :unsure:
I would go with the Asus.
maybe your rite. that would add up to $119 + $106, or $225. there's only a $5 difference. hmmm..... i'm wondering if the firewire support will come in handy. and certainly the fan on the chipset heatsink will be useful. hmmm..... thanks dawg. now, any other suggestions? not that i don't trust ur judgement dawg, just want more ppl's opinions to help me decideQuote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 22:38
I would go with the Asus.
EDIT: well, i'm buying till this thursday. so i still have time. in the meantime, i've decided to stick with the stock hsf. how far will that take me in terms of ocing? i'm thinking not too far. my goal is 3.4ghz. should i get a new hsf?
Abu, it really is your call. However, the hyperpath BIOS hack that enables PAT is an excellent plus. I myself was thinking of getting one of those but I could not justify the purchase to myself.Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@19 January 2004 - 19:28
so wat should i do bout my mobo dilemma ppl? the abit is cheaper, and has firewire. the asus is more expensive, and doesn't have firewire. other than that, theres only the hyperpath difference. :unsure: :unsure:
Personally I think it is kind of a bad idea to buy a new mobo today as the Prescott is going to be released sometime in the next couple of weeks and it would really suck if your new mobo didn't support it...
Abu, it really is your call. However, the hyperpath BIOS hack that enables PAT is an excellent plus. I myself was thinking of getting one of those but I could not justify the purchase to myself.Quote:
Originally posted by adamp2p+19 January 2004 - 22:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 19 January 2004 - 22:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@19 January 2004 - 19:28
so wat should i do bout my mobo dilemma ppl? the abit is cheaper, and has firewire. the asus is more expensive, and doesn't have firewire. other than that, theres only the hyperpath difference. :unsure: :unsure:
Personally I think it is kind of a bad idea to buy a new mobo today as the Prescott is going to be released sometime in the next couple of weeks and it would really suck if your new mobo didn't support it... [/b][/quote]
hmmm... the p4p800 says it supports it.
wat's a prescott again? arn't they out already? i'm so confused rite now.Quote:
New power design supports Intel next generation Prescott CPU
its the new 64bit chip by intel, like the athlon 64.
:) Sorry bigdawg, but that is just a rumor.Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 20:07
its the new 64bit chip by intel, like the athlon 64.
FWIK its a 90 nanometer microprocessor by Intel that uses a hell of a lot of wattage and has a 1 MB level two cache. I would write more right now but I am trying to finish this job for my boss.
well, the asus one supports prescotts. weird. how does a 865 mobo support 64 bit processors/Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 23:07
its the new 64bit chip by intel, like the athlon 64.
my p4 asus mobo says it supports the new Prescott CPUs as well lol and i dont really know wt it means...lol
btw i got my mobo for cheap!
ASUS P4P8x (dual channel ddr, SATA, 6 channel audio, ai overcloking and yada yada...lol
WORKING GREAT lol
109$CDN
ok. i guess i should get the asus. now, bout the hsf. any suggestions? i have a hunch the stock one won't last at 3.4
doesn't anyone have anything to say bout the intel stock hsf?
ok. i've decided. i'm sticking with the asus. after reading some reviews, and feedback from newegg customers, i'm gonna get the asus.
now bout the hsf...
bump
should i get as3 or as5? (artic silver thermal grease). both seem to be pretty good. and please help me pick a hsf for my budget. $20 ish.
if anyone cares to respond anymore ( <_< ), i'm buying my stuff on ebay.
if i win the bids, i can get:
-artic silver 5 for $0.99 (Buy it Now price)
-Asus p4c800 deluxe for around $80-100
-Thermaltake P4 Spark 7+ for $18!!!!
-the ram for $50-100
that's a huge relief on my savings
:) Sorry bigdawg, but that is just a rumor.Quote:
Originally posted by adamp2p+19 January 2004 - 22:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 19 January 2004 - 22:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigdawgfoxx@19 January 2004 - 20:07
its the new 64bit chip by intel, like the athlon 64.
FWIK its a 90 nanometer microprocessor by Intel that uses a hell of a lot of wattage and has a 1 MB level two cache. I would write more right now but I am trying to finish this job for my boss. [/b][/quote]
What???? I've thought that forever haha. Its not going to be 64bit?????? I thought thats what the new design was for...hm...
I have Artic Silver 3 and my temps are GREAT!
What???? I've thought that forever haha. Its not going to be 64bit?????? I thought thats what the new design was for...hm...Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+20 January 2004 - 20:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 20 January 2004 - 20:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by adamp2p@19 January 2004 - 22:23
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@19 January 2004 - 20:07
its the new 64bit chip by intel, like the athlon 64.
:) Sorry bigdawg, but that is just a rumor.
FWIK its a 90 nanometer microprocessor by Intel that uses a hell of a lot of wattage and has a 1 MB level two cache. I would write more right now but I am trying to finish this job for my boss.
I have Artic Silver 3 and my temps are GREAT! [/b][/quote]
from the reviews, i heard as3 is better than as5, but $0.99 isn't bad at all for as5! i prob gonna buy it
UPDATE!!!
These will most likely be the new prices for the stuff I'm getting:
1. Thermaltake Highest Xaser III V1000D Super Tower for $80-100 ish
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/doc2/interBbl.jpg
2. Either ASUS P4P800 DELUXE or ASUS P4C800 DELUXE for $100-120 ish
3. Thermalright sp-94 or slk 947u with 92mm vantec tornado!! (slk 947u will be $40. If i can find a good store who sells the sp94, i'll prob get it)
4. prob same ram.
anyone find any good reviews for the sp94 that compares it's performance to the other thermalright hs's?