Are you Glad Bush won?

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Originally Posted by vidcc

J2 i guess you felt the same way about the republican party when they failed to unseat clinton

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For that unfortunate circumstance we have none other than H.Ross Perot to thank; were it not for him, Clinton would have been sent packing first time around, and we'd have been working on a nice unbroken 28-year stretch of Republican leadership.

Hmmm.

I've done quite a few posts by now, and have yet to say I told you so.

Aren't I magnanimous? :)

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Originally Posted by Biggles

:lol:

I would not bank on too much love. There will be some serious gloating afoot if tribal politics runs true to form in the US as it does elsewhere.

If there is any talk of unification it will be purely for form rather any expression of intent.

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Quite oppositely, did you notice that Senator Kerry or Edwards did not give a passing awknowledgement to the President, but Bush went out of his way to congraduate and affirm his opponent and his voting bloc?

No; I honestly feel that any sort of gloating at such time would be inappropriate for many here, and the bringing up of such things such as President Bush recieving the most popular votes in history would be counterproductive.

Armor donned.

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Bush went out of his way to congraduate and affirm his opponent and his voting bloc?

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That would be called kissing the oppositions ass

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Originally Posted by spinningfreemanny

Quite oppositely, did you notice that Senator Kerry or Edwards did not give a passing awknowledgement to the President, but Bush went out of his way to congraduate and affirm his opponent and his voting bloc?

No; I honestly feel that any sort of gloating at such time would be inappropriate for many here, and the bringing up of such things such as President Bush recieving the most popular votes in history would be counterproductive.

Armor donned.

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Well no - I have been at work all day and not seen the news yet. However, would what you say not verify what I said - form over intent?

its because bush rocked the hillbilly states like texas and alabama

EDIT: oh and hell no

opps i accidently voted I Dont Care but meant yes im glad that bush won

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Originally Posted by scroff

Perhaps I will, J2, perhaps I will... in Sweden.

I suggest you inform Bush that unity and love have no place in politics before he continues on his present course of trying to "unify" the country...

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Bush is just trying to make nice.

The liberal divisiveness will continue, and those susceptable to such tactics will remain beyond reach.

I really couldn't care less; if someone rejects my ideals, I owe him/her nothing other than the fruits of democracy, which are there for the taking.

All others can go to Sweden if they prefer, but be prepared to deal with their border control; they can't support everyone, you know. :D

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Are you Glad Bush won?

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No...

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Originally Posted by j2k4

Bush is just trying to make nice.

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This is a disturbing image! :ohmy:

No, I'm not glad Bush won.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

As one of the "computor illiterates" I must point out that most of us are too busy to waste time pissing and moaning about such things on the internet.

Far too few of you have even the slightest idea of what Bush's re-election signifies or the inclination/ability to examine it objectively.

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It signifies

that most sided with him on the gay issue

they think we are going in the right direction regarding Iraq

and most importantly, MCVIV.

THAT BASTARD!! ARRRGG soo much rage!! I swear it's gonna be another assassination! When people are angry.. bad things happen. He better be hideing behind his sexually pleasureing guards to him or else he's gonna be slammed with tons of rotten veggies and trash. Plus Michael Moore might drive by and yell on a loud speaker," Here's your oil bush shit!" ... splash all over him!!

That director soo awesome.



Everyone and myself know Bush cheated.. Who would vote for someone with a full disadvantage over debate, over the country, and over terrorism...whilst Kerry had things ready to be repaired. WHAT THE HELL HAPPEND!! This country is not to blame, IT"S ALL A BUNCH OF BULL UCKIN BUSH SHIT.

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Originally Posted by Wolfmight

THAT BASTARD!! ARRRGG soo much rage!! I swear it's gonna be another assassination! When people are angry.. bad things happen. He better be hideing behind his sexually pleasureing guards to him or else he's gonna be slammed with tons of rotten veggies and trash. Plus Michael Moore might drive by and yell on a loud speaker," Here's your oil bush shit!" ... splash all over him!!

That director soo awesome.



Everyone and myself know Bush cheated.. Who would vote for someone with a full disadvantage over debate, over the country, and over terrorism...whilst Kerry had things ready to be repaired. WHAT THE HELL HAPPEND!! This country is not to blame, IT"S ALL A BUNCH OF BULL UCKIN BUSH SHIT.

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Is that a yes or a no...

Stop sitting on the fence :angry:

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Originally Posted by j2k4

For that unfortunate circumstance we have none other than H.Ross Perot to thank; were it not for him, Clinton would have been sent packing first time around, and we'd have been working on a nice unbroken 28-year stretch of Republican leadership.

Hmmm.

I've done quite a few posts by now, and have yet to say I told you so.

Aren't I magnanimous? :)

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told me what?
just means in my mind you voted for a social, economic and diplomatic moron.:lol: .
clinton won fair and square..decisively....no republican would have unseated him and if he was allowed to run a third time bush wouldn't have become president.

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Originally Posted by manny

No; I honestly feel that any sort of gloating at such time would be inappropriate for many here, and the bringing up of such things such as President Bush recieving the most popular votes in history would be counterproductive.

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yet you still raise it.:whistling

more people voted in this election and he got roughly half of the votes counted of the people that actually voted... to say Bush recieving the most popular votes in history is just spinning numbers. if he had won by a greater percentage then i would concede that point.

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

Haven't read the thread yet, but I will. Just wanted to post before being influenced by any of the prior discussion.

As I understand it there was a record turn out (tho' I don't know in what way). As I understand it the President not only won the necessary number of states, but he also has some sort of record margin of actual votes cast. Highest winning votes since 1988 or something. As I understand it The Republican Party now has the President, The Majority in The Senate and the Majority in Congress. Forgive me if any of the terminology is wrong.

People, whatever we on the interweb may think, the people of the USA have spoken loudly with regard to who they want to govern them. You have given Mr Bush the mandate he craved, he is more powerful than ever he can now do whatever he wants.

It would appear that he and his party were a tad more popular than some people may have thought.

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MCVIV

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Originally Posted by Busyman

MCVIV

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I'll decode....

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Bush cheated because there is no possible way that America actually voted for him.

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i still say the whole election system is fucked up over there.......

in most states it doesnt matter what you vote, so people dont even bother voting....... i bet the outcome would be totally different if the US had a proper election system

still waiting for you to tell us you've enlisted in the army manny....or are you all talk?

A very sad day for humanity, there is absolutely NO excuse for what the American Public has done. So when reprecutions come around, I'm not gonna blame Bush, I'm going to blame the American People (those that voted for Bush, not those that didn't). Sad day indeed :(

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Originally Posted by spinningfreemanny

I'll decode....

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Very good. ;)

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

What's MCVIV.

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1109.

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

Thanks.

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Actually I got it wrong. My Roman numeral convertor is a bit crappy.

Edit: Actually I have no clue whether I'm right or wrong now...

What a waste of a good joke.. :no:

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

What's MCVIV.

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http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/showp...7&postcount=41

god bless america, where the free and brave kill the enslaved innocent souls of other countries.

FFS, STOP BOMBING WEDDING PARTIES!!!

A belated thanks to RF for creating the poll. :01:

Am I glad shrubya won? :no:

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

What's MCVIV.

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Busyman was kind enough to decode it for me last night in another thread.
MCVIV = More Computer Voting Insured Victory

What a great day to be a Republican :)

I know how hard this must be for you all to accept that more that 3.5 million people think like myself, J2, and Manny that you all.

I’m off to smoke my victory cigar :smoke:

4 more years of W :01:

BB_H, lets all call you a f_cking d_uche :)

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Originally Posted by uNz[i]

Busyman was kind enough to decode it for me last night in another thread.
MCVIV = More Computer Voting Insured Victory

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wow i almost swore that it said "1109"

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

What a great day to be a Republican :)

I know how hard this must be for you all to accept that more that 3.5 million people think like myself, J2, and Manny that you all.

I’m off to smoke my victory cigar :smoke:

4 more years of W :01:

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How do you think?

You have never told us. :huh:

I know j2's views pretty much...I actually share some of them. What about you?

It's not hard to accept btw. You follow the Bible I take it? There will be many that accept what is right in front of them as good moral values while being bent over. :devil:

I am not surprised. I had 1 logical conclusion each for his win and his loss. The win margin was excellent. It was close but not close enough "to make a (court)case about it".

Very good. ;)

vid: "I told you so"= Bush would win; surely you haven't forgotten-but really, it was no great feat to foretell, and I think I said that, too.

My colleague Mr. Fugley has managed to quite easily point out that which most of you ignore:

The American people have spoken, loudly and plainly, and it is indisputable that most people who chose to vote (and by default must likewise be considered to be more engaged than those who did not, and therefore also more politically astute, which in turn indicates the majority who voted hold the prevailing attitudes of the country at large) are not of a liberal persuasion.

It is most definitely true that, if those currently apathetic to the voting process were similarly engaged as to the relevant issues, the majority would hold up throughout.

As an example of the liberal disconnect, consider the fact of the gay-marriage referendums having gone down in utter flames on every slate they were contested...

The prevailing liberal school of thought is (and this is indisputable) that conservatives turned down the referendums because of an inherent hatred/homophobia, when the simple truth is that they wish to preserve marriage as it has existed until now.

This is supported at a glance by the circumstance of a skew in the numbers of votes cast in the Presidential races in the same states where the referenda were on the ballot. i.e., misguidedly assuming a uniformity of beliefs, precisely how is it that in a state that ultimately went for Kerry pretty handily (Oregon) the vote on the gay marriage amendment went down big: 56%-44%?

I daresay (easy on the "dare") no such percentage exists on this board, so at least take the lesson that has been demonstrated so clearly:

The people on this board, including the American contingent, are outside the mainstream of American thought.

I'll bet most of you are utterly shocked at this news, huh? :)

Nonetheless-there you have it; the Americans actually are just as barbarous, uncouth, and worst of all, unenlightened as you've suspected.

B if you haven’t figured out where I stand on things by now then you never will.

I’m not going to fight with you over this.

All we’ve been doing for the past 6 or 9 months is going at each other and its time for a break. Truce?

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Originally Posted by atiVidia

BB_H, lets all call you a f_cking d_uche :)

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By golly, Hank, I think this fellow has denigrated you with a not-so-subtle French reference. :huh:

Utterly crass....

@scroff that is so truehttp://www.anywhichway.net/

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Originally Posted by j2k4

The American people have spoken, loudly and plainly, and it is indisputable that most people who chose to vote (and by default must likewise be considered to be more engaged than those who did not, and therefore also more politically astute, which in turn indicates the majority who voted hold the prevailing attitudes of the country at large) are not of a liberal persuasion.

It is most definitely true that, if those currently apathetic to the voting process were similarly engaged as to the relevant issues, the majority would hold up throughout.

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well the % of people that voted wasn't 100%...and by the standards set to judge kerry on his track record no vote means they oppose...besides how would you know what a non voter thinks...could just be apathy could be disgust at the choices given.


however bush got only 51%...a narrow majority.... hardly an endorsement from all americans....and don't try to tell me you wouldn't be saying the same if kerry won by the same amount.

as to not being of liberal persuasion...how come clinton won 2 terms. If what you say is true do you state that a democrat will never again be president?
as to the gay issue it's just another act of intollerance based on this fictional person called god and it's shameful..... the more intollerance i see because of religion the stronger my athiest convictions become....
If Bush was an athiest and just ran on his policies he wouldn't have been elected...

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Originally Posted by vidcc

well the % of people that voted wasn't 100%...and by the standards set to judge kerry on his track record no vote means they oppose...besides how would you know what a non voter thinks...could just be apathy could be disgust at the choices given.


however bush got only 51%...a narrow majority.... hardly an endorsement from all americans....and don't try to tell me you wouldn't be saying the same if kerry won by the same amount.

as to not being of liberal persuasion...how come clinton won 2 terms. If what you say is true do you state that a democrat will never again be president?
as to the gay issue it's just another act of intollerance based on this fictional person called god and it's shameful..... the more intollerance i see because of religion the stronger my athiest convictions become....
If Bush was an athiest and just ran on his policies he wouldn't have been elected...

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I agree with you, vidcc..the intolerance of the right is simply amazing.
Also, 51% hardly makes for a mandate...that's the work of a vivid imagination.

Please find my reply in blue:

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Originally Posted by vidcc

well the % of people that voted wasn't 100%...and by the standards set to judge kerry on his track record no vote means they oppose...besides how would you know what a non voter thinks...could just be apathy could be disgust at the choices given.

Put it however you like, vid-if it were possible to make non-voters vote, they would vote a statistical tie, which would not change the outcome.

It's really just that simple.


however bush got only 51%...a narrow majority.... hardly an endorsement from all americans....and don't try to tell me you wouldn't be saying the same if kerry won by the same amount.

I'll do better than try, vid, I'll state it flatly:

Had the result been reversed, you'd have heard no carping from me; I live in the real world, where sympathy of the type you seek can be found in the dictionary, right between shit and syphilis.

as to not being of liberal persuasion...how come clinton won 2 terms. If what you say is true do you state that a democrat will never again be president?

I don't see a liberal of the ilk we've seen lately ever getting elected, vid.

I did not say no Democrat would win.

Show me the right Democrat, and I'll vote for him.

BTW-Hillary is toast, as is Edwards.

For good.

as to the gay issue it's just another act of intollerance based on this fictional person called god and it's shameful..... the more intollerance i see because of religion the stronger my athiest convictions become....

Just as I said-you make the mistake of attributing what has happened to your misperception of a hatred of gays; you can't even see how blind you are.

When I tell you it has nothing to do with any religious beliefs I might hold, you can take my word for it; you really don't have a choice, anyway.

If Bush was an athiest and just ran on his policies he wouldn't have been elected...

Quite right-that would have made him just like Kerry, you see? :)

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Originally Posted by j2k4

the simple truth is that they wish to preserve marriage as it has existed until now.

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what? homosexual marriage is a threat to heterosexual marriage? or to heterosexuals' monopoly on marriages-of-convenience, perhaps? if preserving marriage is a concern, though, i'd suggest pickling it.

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Originally Posted by 3RA1N1AC

what? homosexual marriage is a threat to heterosexual marriage? or to heterosexuals' monopoly on marriages-of-convenience, perhaps? if preserving marriage is a concern, though, i'd suggest pickling it.

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:cool:

Heterosexual marriage is a threat to heterosexual marriage, Britney Spears is a threat to heterosexual marriage, Fox is a threat to heterosexual marriage (Anybody wanna marry a millionaire... or a midget?)

Two people enough in love to risk public scorn and ridicule to get married aren't a threat.

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Originally Posted by bujub22

@scroff that is so truehttp://www.anywhichway.net/

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Thank you :1eye:

I voted No.

Oh well, four more years. Which country will we invade next? Place your bets ladies and gentlemen.