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I never said anything against you mate :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
You know fine well, that im griping about the fact the shit rises to the top everywhere, whether its Politics, Religion or Corporations...
The mass's are usually only guilty of being manipulated... its unfortunate if they are manipulated into breaking their own Religious Beliefs maybe.
The Doctrines of the Religions themselves, I cannot really fault.. any of them. Just the way they are implemented ;)
So we agree...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Just arguing samantics
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Unitarian church
A unitarian church believes in a "God concept", you are free to customize him to your liking.
The key is that God exists and the members draw strength and friendship through this bond.
There is no quibbling interpretation of books or arguing about which prophet is the right one. Just a belief that God exists and that we should all try and get along.
Helped my uncle as he died slowly of ALS last year. He faced his demise with hope not fear.
That is why we created God, to combat fear.
Life is hard, life is evanescent, society NEEDS a God and will create one to suit it's need.
If everyone were Unitarian, then they could have all the benefits of a God safety net, without quibbling the details, which has caused such great strife throughout the world.
I don't believe in God, and it irks me that those who do are making this world such a dangerous place. Such irony when we consider that God is about love and forgiveness.
I thought that was what i was saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
I am an athiest but i keep those views to myself out of respect for others..i wish they would do the same in return. i live in a very religious community and i am not left alone. If i ever do get through to them that they won't change my mind they say they will "pray for my soul" :dry:
One of my values... I am a great believer in free speech and i refuse to be a hypocrit to my values and as being an athiestdoesn't require an act of faith i don't have a conflict between not believing and accepting those that do
I quite agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
I have no problem with Catholic Schools, CofE Supported Schools, nor any others.
The difference is that the Church's are providing funds for the extra Religious Element, and the parents are aware of the schools nature before sending them there.
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Originally Posted by vidcc
I think that to aver that God cannot exist requires as much faith a stating that God does exist.
An Atheist denies the possiblity.
An Agnostic doesn't believe in God, but he admits that he is a possibilty.
Conflict will always arise. But conflicts that arise over some drivel written in a book are pointless. Particularly pointless considering that God is love and one should turn the other cheek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
The world would be a far better place without organized religions that arbitrarily define an unknowable creator.
Firstly if it would make you happier...god doesn't exist..... i believe anyone that thinks he does is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
as to the quote above, would i be correct in thinking sarcasm is intended?
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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
At least those things are real. At least we can approach these conflicts with logic, like the creation of the UN (The UN is a great concept to ensure global stability, it just don't work as it stands now).
I would be hard pressed to explain killing someone because he believed in unicorns and I believe in omnipotent bunnies.
and even though it's you that is misguided i have no problem with you having an imaginary friend :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
A lack of acceptable rebuttal often leads to such a declaration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
God is unknowable, the concept of an omnipotent unicorn, bunny, or slice of cheese has the same merit as a story about Christ.
All are attempts to explain what cannot be known. All are crap, equally.
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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
The actual theme is that people adhering to strict beliefs about God are killing people in his name.
Pointless and stupid.
The Catholic church not providing condoms in AIDS infested countries is just the evil. All dictated by a silly book.
They have completely lost the God concept, for details written by man in a book filled with passages selected by men.
God created the universe but he says "no" to condoms.:frusty:
Now see... I dont claim to know the Bible, but im pretty sure it didnt mention Condoms in there.. :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobbes
prophylactics 13:22Quote:
Originally Posted by Rat Faced
And god spake to the randyites, and did tell them thy seed be sacred, waste not thy seed on stoney or latex ground least my creation become stickey
pythonitus 12:4
And he spake to him, and he did say; "Every Sperm is Sacred, Every Sperm is great"
um. I believe that was Noah, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Spam-King
D'oh... And even with the hint earlier, it never clicked with me...Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthie
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Indeed, that sounds more agnostic.
How do you propose teaching about various religions if you refuse to look at their holy works? Or am I misinterpreting what you mean?
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Noah had them on the ark...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Where do you think aquairiums come from... duhhh :P
"um. I believe that was Noah, lol"
LMAO, ah well serves me right for truanting RE classes
You would have to be a scholar in all religions.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicNakor
The funny thing is most religions point to the same god.
Christians believe in god who created the world in six days and rested on the seventh
Jews obviously believe in the same god.
Muslims believe that Allah, created the universe just like that and he didnt need to rest since he is superior, also they believe in Jesus, Abraham, Moses, Noah and many more,
so my question isn’t Islam and Christianity the same. The only difference I see is that Muslims believe that Jesus didn’t die on the cross+they have a stricter "old fashioned way of living"
the quran basically repeats what the bible says and modifies some of the rules.
My best mates a muslim, and I find Islam as a great Religeon to follow, personally IMO all religeons lead to the same god(unless you are a hindu or something)
Islam has basicly been ruined by all the terrorists etc.
I my self beleive in god and I am looking for a religeon to follow
Lawsuit filed in Georgia by 6 parents and the ACLU..
Yup, the fundamental nutjobs in this country feel that Bush owes them, because they got him into office. Obviously, if he names a supreme court justice..(just a matter of time), they are already bitching that one of his possible choices isn't against abortion. The US is turning into a Christian Crusader country.Quote:
ATLANTA — A sticker in suburban Atlanta science textbooks that says evolution is "a theory, not a fact" is being challenged in court as an unlawful promotion of religion.
The lawsuit, filed by six parents and the Georgia chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union (search), begins Monday and is expected to last four days.
Cobb County (search) school officials adopted the disclaimer after science textbooks it adopted in 2002 were criticized by some parents for presenting evolution as fact. More than 2,000 people signed a petition opposing the biology texts because they did not discuss alternative theories, including creationism (search).
County school officials said their stickers simply encourage students to keep an open mind, but the lawsuit claims the warning promotes the teaching of creationism and discriminates against particular religions.
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1987 that creationism was a religious belief that could not be taught in public schools along with evolution.
The stickers read: "This textbook contains material on evolution. Evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully and critically considered."
"I'm a strong advocate for the separation of church and state," said one of the parents, Jeffrey Selman. "I have no problem with anybody's religious beliefs. I just want an adequate educational system."
A lawyer for Cobb County schools, Linwood Gunn, said he expects the disclaimer will hold up in court. He said the stickers "improve the curriculum while also promoting an attitude of tolerance for those that have different religious beliefs."
If you believe in god why do you need a religion to follow? If god hears all prayers why the need to do it in groups. Why would god need choreographed ceromonies?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spam-King
I've heard a lot of people accuse religion for being responsible for more man made death than anything else and noted the indignation in the rebuttal of religious people
The fact is that the belief in god hasn't cause one war..... but the religions have.
Because each religeon has its own rules, and I want to find one that I can agree with or atleast try to practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
rules..what a concept..religious rules are usually imposed to have control over the people.
there is only one rule....have faith in god.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spam-King
choosing between following the sandal or the gourd makes no difference
Halalujah
An it harm none, do what you will
The three Abramic religions "point to the same god." Shinto, Hinduism, Vodun, and Wicca are all very different.
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Added to which,
"There's nowt as 'Strange' as Folk", as my Granma always told me :rolleyes:
Thank you for the compliment, i shall return it if ever you achieve such a standardQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley