Re: Man Utd v Glazer Rumour
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Originally Posted by Rat Faced
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Originally Posted by manker
You seem to have some major insight to which I am bereft. Why will Glazer sell the ground.
I have no idea whether he will or not, i was takin' teh piss out of Man U fans, hence the smilie.. come on, its not often we get the chance to; let us have our fun. :P
More seriously though, i hear they are seriously looking at the £30million offer on Rio... If they start selling the players so soon after all this, then the fans may take that as the new trend.
Hehe yeah, my humour is not so good about this subject atm, sorry about that :D
They're not selling Rio, he's in negotiations to sign a new contract so there would have been speculation anyway, probably caused by Pini Zahavi to get Rio's wages up (:dry:) The takeover has perpetuated it.
However, as with all contract talk it could go tits up if Rio gets too greedy and he may well be on his way. This will be down to the player and not the club, tho' - they've offered him £100,000 a week already.
Re: Man Utd v Glazer Rumour
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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420
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Originally Posted by manker
So, in summary, things are pretty bad but it's not all doom and gloom. My own spirits have been lifted considerably this past week after talking to people that knew more about it that I do. We're still light years ahead of Newcastle and the Scousers. Which is a bonus.
We're the 11th richest club in the world. Soon to be tenth. :snooty:
I thought we were, and you were 10th?
Your dropping quicker than us too (well, you were until this season :( )
Annual incomes 2003-04 (latest available from accounts i think)
1 (1) Man Utd £171.5m
2 (4) Real Madrid £156.3m
3 (3) AC Milan £147.2m
4 (10) Chelsea £143.7m
5 (2) Juventus £142.4m
6 (7) Arsenal £115m
7 (13) Barcelona £110.1m
8 (6) Inter Milan £110.3m
9 (5) Bayern Munich £110.1m
10 (8) Liverpool £92.3m
11 (10) Newcastle £90.5m
12 (11) Roma £72m
13 (18) Celtic £69m
14 (16) Tottenham £66.3m
15 (15) Lazio £65.8m
16 (-) Man City £61.9m
17 (14) Schalke £60.5m
18 (-) Marseille £58.3m
19 (-) Rangers £57.1m
20 (-) Aston Villa £55.9m
Shearer is 5th richest player in UK @ £42mil, thats nearly half of the clubs annual income :ohmy:
Re: Man Utd v Glazer Rumour
RF, MCHeshPants420 is Withcheese :D
He's a Mackem too, I believe.
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Btw, annual income is a pretty poor way to decide which club is richest :snooty:
Re: Man Utd v Glazer Rumour
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Originally Posted by manker
RF, MCHeshPants420 is Withcheese :D
He's a Mackem too, I believe.
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No he isnt... he just supports a Geordie Team :P
I was under the impression he was a scouser... my bad.
/me wonders why people use fake names *sigh*
Re: Man Utd v Glazer Rumour
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Originally Posted by manker
Btw, annual income is a pretty poor way to decide which club is richest :snooty:
Its certainly a bloody good indicator... You cant get the main fixed assets without the income, nor can you keep them. :shifty:
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/me wonders why people use fake names *sigh*
He really did die when he go to 10,000 :mellow:
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Celtic / Rangers certainly aren't in the richest list. The income list maybe, but not the richest list.
It's pretty meaningless when you include some clubs from Europe, which are part hobby. In fact look at Chelski now.
Re: Man Utd v Glazer Rumour
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Originally Posted by Rat Faced
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Originally Posted by manker
Btw, annual income is a pretty poor way to decide which club is richest :snooty:
Its certainly a bloody good indicator... You cant get the main fixed assets without the income, nor can you keep them. :shifty:
If no-one watched Chelsea for the next ten years or bought any merchandise and they refused all prize money, making their income zero. They'd still be the richest club in the world.
Income pays no heed to how well managed or liquid the company is.
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In one sense they did have a huge income... what, with someone pumping huge wads of money into the club. They couldnt have done what they've done on their normal ticket sales, merchandising etc.
Its an indicator... but no, it doesnt account for the odd madman billionaire that wishes to give millions away to his club.
If i had a rich relative that wished to give me loads of money then i guess my salary would pale in comparison to my wealth... but this is not the normal situation in life, or in football.
To any volunteers that wish to give me loads of money..... notice i never said anything against that, please feel free to donate this way ;)
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Originally Posted by RF
In one sense they did have a huge income... what, with someone pumping huge wads of money into the club.
That's what I mean, the 'income' figures are merely P&L top lines and as such won't take into account what really matters. For all we know, Newcastle's #11 position could belie the fact that their expenses > than their income.
What matters is the bottom line P&L figure and, even more importantly, liquidity as shown on the balance sheet.
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true that, but at all times maintaining a good and strong public image is paramount
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NFL wants information on Man U casino ties
WASHINGTON (AP) - The National Football League asked Tampa Bay Buccaneers owner Malcolm Glazer on Tuesday to explain Manchester United's relationship with a Las Vegas casino, a venture that could run afoul of the league's policies concerning gambling.
The request came during the pro gridiron league's spring meetings, the owners' first gathering since Glazer's 790-million-pound (US$1.47 billion; €1.16 billion) takeover of the world's most valuable soccer club.
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Glazer's acquisition did not violate the league's cross-ownership rules and that there was no problem related to the debt Glazer is incurring.
But the league, known to be wary about any connection to gambling, wants to know more about a proposed resort and casino that would be built near Manchester United's Old Trafford stadium as a joint venture between the club and Las Vegas Sands Corp.
"The only potential issue concerns that reported Man U joint venture with the Las Vegas casino, what that means, and does it have any implications regarding our policies," Aiello said.
There is no timetable for Glazer to respond to the NFL's request, Aiello said.
The meetings came on the same day that the U.S. representative of Shareholders United, a group of fans and shareholders who oppose Glazer's takeover, wrote a letter to NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue outlining Manchester United's connection to gambling.
The letter, written by J.D. Deitch, said that United has bookmaking stalls at Old Trafford and has links to a gambling Web site on the club's official site. The letter also mentions the deal with Las Vegas Sands.
"The issue here is whether the NFL is really going to stand by its policies," Deitch said in an interview.
Aiello said he did not know whether Tagliabue had seen the letter.
Several of Glazer's fellow NFL owners said they didn't know much about the casino deal, but they were full of admiration that Glazer was able to pull off the purchase of such a prominent team.
"I didn't believe he could get the job done to get that much control of it, but he's a strong negotiator," Tennessee Titans owner Bud Adams said. "He's got the No. 1 soccer team in the world."
Glazer, who rarely speaks to the media, walked past reporters without comment.
"I asked him how much time he's going to spend over there, and he said, 'Not too much,' " Adams said.
When it was pointed out that Glazer's takeover has met with hostility among United fans in England, Adams said: "That's why maybe he's not going to go over there very much."
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/3637652
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Interesting developments.
Thanks RP.
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Indeed. Don't often get to read stuff from an American perspective.
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Originally Posted by jimmy23
true that, but at all times maintaining a good and strong public image is paramount
Hi Billy :)
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Originally Posted by JPaul
Interesting developments.
Thanks RP.
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Indeed. Don't often get to read stuff from an American perspective.
Quite welcome guys, I've been watching the story to see what Glazer does ;)
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Originally Posted by DanB
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Originally Posted by jimmy23
true that, but at all times maintaining a good and strong public image is paramount
Hi Billy :)
Speaking of a good and strong public image.