What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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05-24-2005, 02:52 PM
MCHeshPants420

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by manker

He didn't say prefer, he said you barely notice the difference :blink:

Doesn't matter.

Reading words on a screen takes away from on screen visuals.

The average moviegoer can read just fine but if I'm watching visually intensive movie, it fucks it up.

I noticed this recently with the original Spanish version of Vanilla Sky....I like the original better but still hated the subtitles...even though it was barely noticed.

Sounds like a personal reading problem then. Plenty of people have mild forms of dyslexia without even realising it.
05-24-2005, 02:53 PM
MCHeshPants420

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

Umm...
05-24-2005, 02:54 PM
Barbarossa

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

The rest of the world has larger penises and hotter women ... :naughty:
05-24-2005, 02:55 PM
MCHeshPants420

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by barbarossa

The rest of the world has larger penises and hotter women ... :naughty:

Are you saying America doesn't have big dicks?
05-24-2005, 02:55 PM
manker

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Doesn't matter.

Reading words on a screen takes away from on screen visuals.

The average moviegoer can read just fine but if I'm watching visually intensive movie, it fucks it up.

I noticed this recently with the original Spanish version of Vanilla Sky....I like the original better but still hated the subtitles...even though it was barely noticed.

Sounds like a personal reading problem then. Plenty of people have mild forms of dyslexia without even realising it.

Seems more like selective myopia to me. I'm not sure if your post was read at all, the quote button was clicked and something practically unrelated was posted.
05-24-2005, 03:01 PM
Busyman

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by SnnY

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I knew a shot was coming. :dry:

Strain your brain? No it's pretty simple.....

One enjoys the visuals of a movie better when they aren't reading the motherfucker. :ermm:

You are the one that said yours were heaps better. You were practically asking for it.

But disregarding that, subtitles, like anything else that requires thinking is a matter of practice, had you grown up with it you wouldn't even notice them by now ('cept when they get it wrong), besides, it's more or less proven that natives in nations that use subtitles instead of dubbing have an easier time learning new languages.

No one ever accused hollywood of making an effort to expand peoples' minds though.

Everyone but small kids prefer subtitles, here.

'cos it doesn't fuck the movie up.

You see that's the problem with folks like yourself. If I say American cinema is better it's an opinion (although pretty accurate by how many outside the US watch it and swear by it). If it wasn't that good then many folks should fucking stop watching it. :dry:

Subtitles don't require much thinking. It's reading ffs. I simply pointed out that when your eye is focusing on the bottom of the screen (even if it's not that long), it takes the eye away from the on-screen action. Now in dramas it is not as bad as in a horror or action movie.

I agree with the edumacation part but it's rather simple logic that one's would prefer a movie made in a language they understand (not necessarily dubbed) than one that's written. If you are trying to learn another language (or are deaf) maybe subtitles are great but most people hit the movies to enjoy the entire cinematic experience.
05-24-2005, 03:02 PM
99%

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

in relation to Mankers last pot(+quote) the usa needs europe for grammar & spelling?

it is a sad day
05-24-2005, 03:04 PM
Busyman

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Fuck you.

Oh man....was that undignified...oh well

FUCK YOU!!! :ermm:

That's a bit abusive

Oh he must have been asking for it.

Anyone notice that Americans don't really come on here insulting other's nationalities? :dry:
05-24-2005, 03:06 PM
JPaul

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

That's a bit abusive

Oh he must have been asking for it.

That's OK well.
05-24-2005, 03:06 PM
Busyman

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

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Originally Posted by Busyman

No one prefers a subtitled movie. :dry:

Read a book ffs.

Plenty of people do when faced with the options.

1. Subtitles.

2. Dubbing.

3. Poorly made remake.

4. Learn the language of the film.

If a film is good then the fact that it is subtitled has no bearing on my enjoyment of it, to me subtitles is the best way of presenting a good film to a foreign audience. Seems to be you're a little closed minded.

On-topic: Open-mindedness.

I didn't see this post before but I agree. I liked Open Your Eyes better yet if it was subtitled but was made, not dubbed, in English, I'd have liked it better.
05-24-2005, 03:09 PM
Busyman

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Doesn't matter.

Reading words on a screen takes away from on screen visuals.

The average moviegoer can read just fine but if I'm watching visually intensive movie, it fucks it up.

I noticed this recently with the original Spanish version of Vanilla Sky....I like the original better but still hated the subtitles...even though it was barely noticed.

Sounds like a personal reading problem then. Plenty of people have mild forms of dyslexia without even realising it.

How so?

I can read just fine. I would have prefered not to read a movie. It turns out I had no choice and still liked it.

fWt aer yuo no abtou? :blink: Lysdexia?
05-24-2005, 03:09 PM
manker

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by JPaul

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Oh he must have been asking for it.

That's OK well.

You got your RealitY check, then.
05-24-2005, 03:11 PM
99%

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

Is it me or where you (busyman) not posting on this site until the word usa popped up.

The world has
animals
nature
oxygen
photosynthesis
marshmellows (indeed american)
social space
hobos
malakas
women

and so much more

but

why does it feel that the world is smaller than the usa?
05-24-2005, 03:13 PM
MCHeshPants420

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

A superpower to take the mickey out of.
05-24-2005, 03:14 PM
Busyman

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by 99%

Is it me or where you (busyman) not posting on this site until the word usa popped up.

The world has
animals
nature
oxygen
photosynthesis
marshmellows (indeed american)
social space
hobos
malakas
women

and so much more

but

why does it feel that the world is smaller than the usa?

I don't get that feeling at all.

I post in threads that interest me. Interesting threads are hard to come by these days and I don't post in the "chitchat" threads that much. You seem to make some thought provoking threads sometimes versus idle chatter.

Does that answer your question?
05-24-2005, 03:19 PM
Mr JP Fugley

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by manker

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Originally Posted by JPaul

That's OK well.

You got your RealitY check, then.

No, it proofed too bee unpossible.
05-24-2005, 03:31 PM
Snee

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

Oh, here we go again.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

You see that's the problem with folks like yourself. If I say American cinema is better it's an opinion (although pretty accurate by how many outside the US watch it and swear by it). If it wasn't that good then many folks should fucking stop watching it. :dry:

It's all right, as superficial entertainment goes, which is what most of it is.
Nobody said it was bad, per se, but it isn't excellent either, on average. And really, compared to the rest of the world hollywood churns out a massive amount of movies. The market is full of them, so of course a lot of people watch them. That doesn't mean that american movies are better, it just means that people watch a lot of them as light entertainment in between excellent releases, from wherever.

As far as I'm concerned, the best two movies I ever saw were french, followed by a japanese one. I'm not really keen on movies from my own country, truth be told, which is why it's excellent to not be limited by language.

At least one american movie would rate among my top ten, but since there are lots and lots of them, that's hardly surprising.

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Subtitles don't require much thinking. It's reading ffs. I simply pointed out that when your eye is focusing on the bottom of the screen (even if it's not that long), it takes the eye away from the on-screen action. Now in dramas it is not as bad as in a horror or action movie.

Like I said, you wouldn't notice them, and that's 'cos your focus wouldn't be on them. If you've been around them long enough you can get anything you might need from them just by having them in the periphery. But there's been extensive research done on subtitling, and different countries have different conventions for implementing them.

British, and american subtitling, follows another type of system than ours, where all information that can possibly be crammed into a frame gets put there, which means that the amount of text you have to read is a lot more than the one someone in my country has to absorb.

Our translators favour a less literal approach where the a semantic core is transfered, but not every single word, and they have specific rules about the number of letters allowed on the screen, and how long it has to be displayed.

It's a system that's been through a lot of polishing before it became as good as it is today.

It doesn't take the eye away from anything.

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I agree with the edumacation part but it's rather simple logic that one's would prefer a movie made in a language they understand (not necessarily dubbed) than one that's written. If you are trying to learn another language (or are deaf) maybe subtitles are great but most people hit the movies to enjoy the entire cinematic experience.

The thing is, that since many of us don't really notice the subtitles anymore, we sort of get the information for free without losing out on the experience.

Of course, a majority of us understand english quite well, which means that even the most backward of us only need the subtitles if the language gets tricky. (this only applies to english language movies, obviously)

Like I said though, it would be a hell of a lot easier for you to watch movies with subtitles if you had grown up with them.
05-24-2005, 03:32 PM
99%

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Does that answer your question?

Gracias og ja comprendo, je suis satisfait
geen dank nodig
05-24-2005, 03:34 PM
uNz[i]

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

That's a bit abusive

Oh he must have been asking for it.

Anyone notice that Americans don't really come on here insulting other's nationalities? :dry:

Oh yeah... how could I forget. Objectivity.

:naughty:
05-24-2005, 03:34 PM
Snee

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Anyone notice that Americans don't really come on here insulting other's nationalities? :dry:

No, but that's only 'cos they do it.

Or have you missed all those comments about the french, for instance?
05-24-2005, 03:48 PM
99%

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by SnnY

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Anyone notice that Americans don't really come on here insulting other's nationalities? :dry:

Regard it as a compliment
&
dont worry, it is garantued that one of the other nations will fæk up soon enough
(instructions : turn on news channel)
but where is our hero(ess) who can make it all.........nice & cozy?

President of USA?

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Lasker
Today, 01:13 AM

this is my question guys, why people and also the government of the United States called America his country if America in reality is a entire continent of many nations, is like compare people from Spain calling his country Europe??? this does not mean sense to me, what is your opinion about it?
05-24-2005, 03:57 PM
vidcc

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

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What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

A superpower to take the mickey out of.

You threatening to send in snatch squads ?

http://www.nigelhumour.co.uk/hos.jpg

Mind you after Disney charging us nearly $4 for a hot dog we won't pay the ransom
05-24-2005, 04:02 PM
Snee

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by zed

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Lasker
Today, 01:13 AM

this is my question guys, why people and also the government of the United States called America his country if America in reality is a entire continent of many nations, is like compare people from Spain calling his country Europe??? this does not mean sense to me, what is your opinion about it?

err, what?
05-24-2005, 04:05 PM
manker

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

I suppose it's a more like calling England, Great Britain. Rather than calling Spain, Europe.

Saying 'America' is easier than it's full title, I guess.
05-24-2005, 04:07 PM
MCHeshPants420

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by vidcc

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

A superpower to take the mickey out of.

You threatening to send in snatch squads ?

http://www.nigelhumour.co.uk/hos.jpg

Mind you after Disney charging us nearly $4 for a hot dog we won't pay the ransom

:lol:

Disney aren't my girlfriend's favourite people right now. Click my sig to read her article about it.
05-24-2005, 04:09 PM
vidcc

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

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Originally Posted by vidcc

You threatening to send in snatch squads ?

http://www.nigelhumour.co.uk/hos.jpg

Mind you after Disney charging us nearly $4 for a hot dog we won't pay the ransom

:lol:

Disney aren't my girlfriend's favourite people right now. Click my sig to read her article about it.

I looked before..... sharks are bastards and deserve to be eaten :naughty:
05-24-2005, 04:10 PM
MCHeshPants420

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by vidcc

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

:lol:

Disney aren't my girlfriend's favourite people right now. Click my sig to read her article about it.

I looked before..... sharks are bastards and deserve to be eaten :naughty:

Serves them right for being so tasty.

/hopes she never sees this.
05-24-2005, 04:21 PM
manker

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

Meh, I'd been meaning to click that McChris thing that used to be in your sig, but didn't.

I'll wait awhile to find out about eating sharks :dry:
05-24-2005, 04:21 PM
vidcc

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

I would like to know just how they found out that shark liver oil is a good ingredient for hemorrhoid creams :unsure:
05-24-2005, 05:20 PM
Busyman

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by SnnY

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Anyone notice that Americans don't really come on here insulting other's nationalities? :dry:

No, but that's only 'cos they do it.

Or have you missed all those comments about the french, for instance?

Where? :dry:
05-24-2005, 05:22 PM
Busyman

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by uNz[i]

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Oh he must have been asking for it.

Anyone notice that Americans don't really come on here insulting other's nationalities? :dry:

Oh yeah... how could I forget. Objectivity.

:naughty:

Exactly....get some before saying we have no dignity or integrity. :dry:
05-24-2005, 05:37 PM
JPaul

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by manker

I suppose it's a more like calling England, Great Britain. Rather than calling Spain, Europe.

Saying 'America' is easier than it's full title, I guess.

Give it your best shot, nob.

Not even close :D

1 de-merit for manrod.
05-24-2005, 05:54 PM
DanB

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

Disney aren't my girlfriend's favourite people right now. Click my sig to read her article about it.

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Disney Shark Soup Shocker

A quality Sun-esque headline :01:

Busyman, I take the piss out of manker for being Welsh
05-24-2005, 06:00 PM
JPaul

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by DanB

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Disney Shark Soup Shocker

A quality Sun-esque headline :01:

Busyman, I take the piss out of manker for being Welsh

Manker calls me Jocko McBannockburn, which I have larfed at oft times.

I studiously abuse all things English, remembering that Welsh Wales is really just an annexe of same.
05-24-2005, 06:01 PM
vidcc

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by DanB

Busyman, I take the piss out of manker for being Welsh

http://www.nigelhumour.co.uk/liz.jpg
05-24-2005, 06:02 PM
MCHeshPants420

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by vidcc

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Originally Posted by DanB

Busyman, I take the piss out of manker for being Welsh

http://www.nigelhumour.co.uk/liz.jpg

What Welsh people does manker own?
05-24-2005, 06:03 PM
MCHeshPants420

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by DanB

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Disney Shark Soup Shocker

A quality Sun-esque headline :01:

Try saying it really fast... :lol:
05-24-2005, 06:08 PM
vidcc

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

What Welsh people does manker own?

:lol: manker "is" welsh ??
05-24-2005, 06:09 PM
JPaul

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

mankerish = Welsh

New word invented.
05-24-2005, 06:25 PM
manker

Re: What does the rest of the World have that the USA does'nt?

Feck's sake, how could I have missed this menagerie of manker mauling.

It'll take too long to refute it so instead I'll just strongly deny it.

YOU'RE NOT RIGHT, 'k.

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