Suggestions For FST

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

My point was that if you want to have people as "contributors" then give them an actual task and have their usergroup name represent that.

Ie if Illumanati is in charge of submitting news then he'd be "FST New Guy"

Gepperankins is "FST Radio Guy" as he does the radio.

Other titles can be given if they are actually needed. I can't think of any myself though, is there actually anything else?

Having a blanket group doesn't really define what these people are contributing and in fact is insulting to the rest of the membership. I think fewer people will have problems with people being given "jobs" and titles to match these "jobs".

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Well we had wanted it to be more generalized and had chosen things like Verifieds and NZB in addition to News also because these are areas that are drawing Google hits and new traffic into the site which translates to new members which is what we have been trying for with whatever changes that are made lately.

The Verifieds and NZB may not be used by some alto but were put up front and additional had a No Content hack applied primarily to draw Google hits which in turn means more traffic and members for you to have all your glory with. Its no secret this place was on a slide not that long ago.

This is why a general name was chosen which was hardly even my thought as its been done on many other forums for that matter. I just cant imagine why you find it so offensive though. If this was just about News then I agree we could call it FST News Guys or something but it was intended to be more than that which is maybe what your missing.

Of course again if you choose to criticize the name based on some concern that it has some sort of insulting overtones than please take into account what the actual thought behind this is and suggest a better name for it if you want...

How about an FST NZB Guy and a FST Verifieds Guy then? :unsure:

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Originally Posted by DanB

How about an FST NZB Guy and a FST Verifieds Guy then? :unsure:

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No...

:P :P

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

You know you want to really. If the mods think you're doing a good job, which they seem to then they should let you carry ot on with a few less restrictions (ie the moderation thing).

And as you have ideas for further improvements you seem the best man for the job. Got my vote, even above the awesomeness of Bawa. ;)

Illuminati = FST News Guy.*

*But let us think of a better title. :lol:

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I wouldn't decline the offer (Who would it be passed to? ;)) but I have been wary about helping out after the 7th's time *spits*

If I do end up being it though, I might change my username instead - How about Jeremy Paxman? ;)

The job thought and seperate titles sounds grand but creating multiple Usergroups just dosent seem needed really...

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Originally Posted by RealitY

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

My point was that if you want to have people as "contributors" then give them an actual task and have their usergroup name represent that.

Ie if Illumanati is in charge of submitting news then he'd be "FST New Guy"

Gepperankins is "FST Radio Guy" as he does the radio.

Other titles can be given if they are actually needed. I can't think of any myself though, is there actually anything else?

Having a blanket group doesn't really define what these people are contributing and in fact is insulting to the rest of the membership. I think fewer people will have problems with people being given "jobs" and titles to match these "jobs".

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Well I had wanted it to be more generalized and had chosen things like Verifieds and NZB in addition to News also because these are areas that are drawing Google hits and new traffic into the site which traslates to new members which is what we have been trying for with whatever changes that are made lately.

The Verifieds and NZB may not be used by some alot but were put up front and additaional had a No Content hack applied primarily to draw Google hits which in turn means more traffic and members for you to have all your glory with. Its no secret this place was on a slide not that long ago.

This is why a genereal name was chosen which was harly even my thought as its been done on many other forums for that matter. I just imagine why you find it so offensive though. If this was just about News then I agree we could call it FST News Guys of something but it was intended to be more than that which is maybe what your missing. Of course again if you choose to critisize the name based on some concern that it has some sort of insulting overtones than please take into account what the actual thought behind this is and suggest a better name for it if you want...

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So for someone in the group that submits verifieds or NZB's you could call them something like "Content Submitter". So long as they continue to submit the aforementioned content.

I understand your idea fully. It just needs a little tweaking is all.

Now you could just call them all "Forum Contributors" and lump them all in one group but I think that splitting people into the roles they intend to perform for the forum will lead to less confusion, more acceptance and less claims of "elitism".

Well at an afterthought, chances are that at least 9/10ths of those picked already have their own custom names anyway, and will likely change theirs the first chance they get.

So why not stick with the Forum Contributors usergroup (no seperate usergroups) and let these Contribs change their own custom names to whatever they do. It'll let them show their job in their own creative way :)

Personally, I don't have a problem with a Forum Contributors usergroup the same way I did when the Forum Stars usergroup was introduced, but that's my opinion.

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Originally Posted by RealitY

The job thought and seperate titles sounds grand and all but creating muliple Usergroups just dosent seem needed really...

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I disagree as I've mentioned above. It presents no difficulty to the admin, and will in fact make your job easier when you're checking to see if somebody is still "contributing" because you'll know what they are supposed to be doing and they can't fob you off with with excuses.

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

So for someone in the group that submits verifieds or NZB's you could call them something like "Content Submitter". So long as they continue to submit the aforementioned content.

I understand your idea fully. It just needs a little tweaking is all.

Now you could just call them all "Forum Contributors" and lump them all in one group but I think that splitting people into the roles they intend to perform for the forum will lead to less confusion, more acceptance and less claims of "elitism".

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I think Content Submitter may be a better choice and can be applied to even those submitting News so it works as a generlized name. Of course as mentioned anyone can change their user title anyway. I do think its a tad dry though but deffinatly on the right track and perhaps on the way to a happy middle ground...

Been thinking about this bit about submitting content and that.

But what about someone like clocker then?

He doesn't submit any verifieds or news, but along with others, like lynx, and vb, he sorts out a lot of stuff for people.

I think (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) that the news, and the verifieds are used by relatively few people. And as for the frontpage, that is rather useless, IMO the www.filesharingtalk.com/ url should be pointing at the forum index.

I reckon this whole concept of who is valuable or not is kinda' lopsided, like someone said, cutting and pasting news, or confirming a verified, isn't hard, granted, it does take some time, but then they wouldn't be looking for it if they weren't interested in it themselves in the first place.

IMO (again) someone who solves problems>someone who posts news.

And the thing is, it's hard to judge if someone is contributing or not, as a lot of people will pitch in if they come across something they actually know how to sort out, but stay away otherwise from giving advice (rather than spamming up a topic in a "serious" world), while others will post indiscriminately to boost their post-count or whatever, maybe solving a couple of problems in the process, maybe not.

How can YOU possibly judge who is useful, and who is not?

Do you have a formula to calculate the ratio of useful, and non-useful posts for each individual, and for that matter, do you have an idea on when to make the distinction on what is useful enough to count worthy of lending the poster privilieges in your little scheme.

And for that matter, I highly doubt someone like titey would have recieved any rewards if he was still here, yet I think he was one of the bigger assets this forum ever had. I know he wouldn't care much about it anyway, but what about running the risk of alienating someone like him who does care, in favour of some total arse who happens to spend a lot of time on fasttrack, or wherever, verifying pron or something?

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Originally Posted by SnnY

I think (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) that the news, and the verifieds are used by relatively few people. And as for the frontpage, that is rather useless, IMO the www.filesharingtalk.com/ url should be pointing at the forum index.

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Actually the portal was intended to also create more traffic which it does now as if you look at the poll thats been placed there this week its one of the most active this forum has had. and it does take a good amount of hits and if nothing else makes FST look all the better. If you look at most any other well populated forums they all have portals now. If you dont have a care for it dont bookmark it but theres NO reason to get rid of it or the work thats been put into it.

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I reckon this whole concept of who is valuable or not is kinda' lopsided, like someone said, cutting and pasting news, or confirming a verified, isn't hard, granted, it does take some time, but then they wouldn't be looking for it if they weren't interested in it themselves in the first place.

IMO (again) someone who solves problems>someone who posts news.

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Were not here to say who is better or not and once again this NOT what the intention of this is. Its a simple thanks and a couple of light hearted features along with some to make the board better also but you feel the need to make something ugly of it.

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And the thing is, it's hard to judge if someone is contributing or not

How can YOU possibly judge who is useful, and who is not?

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I dont see why that so hard as it would actually seem obvious on most counts. Besides everyone is welcome to be involved in those decisions although if you find it that difficult you wouldnt be required to participate.

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what about running the risk of alienating someone like him who does care, in favour of some total arse who happens to spend a lot of time on fasttrack, or wherever

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This may be your best point so far. I would hope that those they feel should that dont wouldnt take it that hard perhaps. It could be easily considered to not include those that are of assistants I guess and just keep this to Content Providers although I would think its a pleasant way of saying thanks and cant imagine someone else being in such a fluster that he didnt get some modest addons that they would leave.

I think maybe you shouldnt take those to possibly being so petty. I think that those who assist others do so because they like to and its doubtful that a member of that type would be the same type to take such an unnecessary offense to this. On the flip side I do however think it may encourage some n00bs and regulars to participate more in the areas that have been mentioned and may be quite a positive for the forum since thats all this is attempting to do...

:blink: that poll is posted in the BT section for all i know there's where people found it the frontpage is where you end up if you only type the url keep it by all means but make a link called "portal" or something where you put the news and that and let the forum index be the frontpage and I have to say that all my points worth considering cos people do care i mean why did you suggest it in the first place otherwise and it isn't that easy to say that this or that bloke is an asset and that another bloke isnt cos you cant measure what a person does to improve how people feel about the place and i dont understand why thats so hard to understand im not determined to make something ugly out of it but when you start to distinguish between people on such dubious grounds then youll get this kind of feedback besides the way you rate people by saying that some contribute more and some dont which you inevitably do if you implement this youll make some feel as if they arent as good as the ones you put in the other usergroup and whats the point of changing something when no one has asked for it anyway?


/communicating with the natives.

I dont think theres any intention of switching the portal and the front page although perhaps adding a link to the portal from the forum is a decent though I had been thinking as well.

As for the rest I dont see any point in debating this further as the point that if only a few bicker regarding not getting something they feel they should then perhaps its not worth the ill feelings it may create so it will be changed to Content Providers which will be for those posting News Verified or NZB regularly. This will be a simple formula so there is no confusion. I hope that is more to your likings...

So does Bawa get his stripes, or what.

The way I see it, what got me to join in the first place was that the place was a kind of anarchy, at the temp forum we were all the same. There were no groups or specific hangouts for different people, instead we were all lumped together, even the mod I most came into contact with (balamm) was really no "better" than the rest of us.

It was all a mess, but no matter who you were, you could have your say and be listened to, and it really didn't feel, to me, as if one single individual could have an opinion that on its own would immediately be percieved as better than someone else's.

By labeling people in any which way, we move away from the anarchy, and the equality that made me stay around, so I can honestly say that for people like me, everything that makes us less equal makes the forum less attractive.

I don't care for privilieges (or authority for that matter) or dividing people into different classes, so I'd rather have less of it, than a bigger pm-box (I prolly wouldn't notice the rest) just 'cos I might be doing something you think is good.

That's why I don't care for stars (adblocked), or postcounts, or special fancy-pants superduper usergroups. It just makes it harder for someone to join the ranks and feel as if they are on equal footing with the rest of us. Besides, any kind of ranking system, or special privilieges will have some people trying to attain a higher status, sometimes in strange ways.

And it may also mean that those who behave, but don't behave in the way you say is desirable above all other ways, may begin to resent the fact that others, whose "work" they've hardly noticed, gets a higher status, like I've said. I know you don't quite get that, but it's just the way some people are.

Which means more post-whores, more spam, more arguments in here, and so on.

If you are determined to make changes, why not make it better for everybody, by giving all of us slightly bigger pm-boxes after making a set amount of posts, or whatever?

The good thing about the interweb is the fact that it gives us a sense of more equality than anywhere else, that's something that should be cherished.


If not, then I really think bawa should be the first member of your group. I'd enjoy that.

I've got an idea.

Leave it alone. The people that contribute ALREADY do it because they like to do it. :blink:

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Originally Posted by SnnY

If you are determined to make changes, why not make it better for everybody, by giving all of us slightly bigger pm-boxes after making a set amount of posts, or whatever?

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So then I guess your saying someone who makes oodles of posts should get a bigger pm box then rather than Content Providers. Thats interesting thought although it may confict with all that which youve mentioned about anarchy and all that I dont seem to understand. I just cant imagine some starts not making someone equal and that you have the need to block them in the name of anarchy as it just sounds a tad far fetched or perhaps you know more than me.

Seriously though this is just some light hearted features so if you could please not take it to seriously. Its been relabled and toned down already so that nobody would have ill feelings which Ive accepted as a possibility and relize that its maybe not a good thought then or are you still not satisfied. Am I to understand that you now find that others having a lager pm box is upsetting even though you think 5k posters or the like should have them. Seems somehow I find that confusing.

Im also a tad confused with all the comments about athority figures and find them slightly misplaced and and hope you dont have some sort of need to place me in that sort of role so Im set to be the one that represents all your against somehow. I still consider myself a member primarily and whatever I or any of the Team does is just simply to hopefully make FST a better place for us all.

At this stage the only purpose of this is just to encourage n00bs and members to become more active in areas that are drawing most of our new traffic which without there will be not much of anything other than a dozen regulars chatiing about ragging about how slow this place is and that its a waste of time. If you think back a little maybe youde remember or perhaps you would prefer it that way although I doubt it...

Personally I think that you should stick to giving people who contribute a special member title but scrap the idea of giving them bigger PM boxes and ability to make polls anywhere. Neither is really needed, people can delete old PM's and ask mods to move polls if they think it's better placed elsewhere.

Just a little bit of recognition with member titles is fine, and obviously abilities like posting news unmoderated if that's what they are contributing to the forum.

Ive made some changes to the original post above so that hopefully now it will be a happy middle ground for all...

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I've got an idea.

Leave it alone. The people that contribute ALREADY do it because they like to do it. :blink:

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Well said, who gives a rat's ass about bigger pm boxes . Some members with 50 posts contribute as much as some with a 1000. Some like the lounge others software or hardware world. No biggie, I get my thanks with helping and sharing ,thats how this forum came about ............... :)

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Originally Posted by manker

Personally I don't feel comfortable unless I've read the front page news before pissing off directly to the lounge.

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Until today, I didn't know there was a Front Page..I never looked for one :cry:

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

scrap the idea of giving them bigger PM boxes and ability to make polls anywhere. Neither is really needed, people can delete old PM's and ask mods to move polls if they think it's better placed elsewhere.

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Well fair enough so now well just have the basics along with the color change on title. As for the stars well just use the same ones that are set for 5k posters or possibly get some orange ones that are a bit different and for those that may find that offensive they can just addblock them I guess which they would be doing already anyway considering ranks and stars are already in place.

I still think Content Provider is a bit dry and would like other suggestion for the name. This will most likely only be at the View Member Ranks legand as most user customize their title anyway. If nothing else better is to be thought of then I think going back to Forum Contributor is which is a title used on other forums also and I think should be fine now as it wont be associated with those that are of assistants to other and just be related to the outlined areas so then nobody should be offended by it hopefully...

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

scrap the idea of giving them bigger PM boxes and ability to make polls anywhere. Neither is really needed, people can delete old PM's and ask mods to move polls if they think it's better placed elsewhere.

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Well fair enough so now well just have the basics along with the color change on title. As for the stars well just use the same ones that are set for 5k posters or possibly get some orange ones that are a bit different and for those that may find that offensive they can just addblock them I guess which they would be doing already anyway considering ranks and stars are already in place.

I still think Content Provider is a bit dry and would like other suggestion for the name. This will most likely only be at the View Member Ranks legand as most user customize their title anyway. If nothing else better is to be thought of then I think going back to Forum Contributor is which is a title used on other forums also and I think should be fine now as it wont be associated with those that are of assistants to other and just be related to the outlined areas so then nobody should be offended by it hopefully...

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You need a better word than 'contributor'. Trust me on that.

Forum Support Worker? FSW's for short.

I'm sure others can come up with better ideas than me.

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

Forum Support Worker? FSW's for short.

I'm sure others can come up with better ideas than me.

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How about Neo-Support Forum Worker? :shifty:

B3ta readers will get the acronym :lol:

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Originally Posted by manker

Personally I don't feel comfortable unless I've read the front page news before pissing off directly to the lounge.

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Until today, I didn't know there was a Front Page..I never looked for one :cry:

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You do realise that I was being ironic.

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Afaic, the whole idea of doling out badges to people that do a specific thing is a bit silly. Stars that encourage people to post, okay with me - mods need badges to set them apart when dealing with flames or conveying info from TC; in this instance a badge is surplus. I agree with what SnnY wrote so I won't reiterate the reasons.

That said, I imagine that it will happen anyway so to avoid the problems SnnY outlined, I think a public poll to decide exactly who these special people are going to be would be a good idea. Abiding by a democratic decision that goes against you sits a lot easier than putting up with a whim of an individual.

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Originally Posted by RealitY

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Originally Posted by SnnY

If you are determined to make changes, why not make it better for everybody, by giving all of us slightly bigger pm-boxes after making a set amount of posts, or whatever?

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So then I guess your saying someone who makes oodles of posts should get a bigger pm box then rather than Content Providers. Thats interesting thought although it may confict with all that which youve mentioned about anarchy and all that I dont seem to understand. I just cant imagine some starts not making someone equal and that you have the need to block them in the name of anarchy as it just sounds a tad far fetched or perhaps you know more than me.

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No it doesn't, as everybody will hit five, ten or a hundred posts or whatever fairly soon, which was what I had in mind. The only reason I didn't suggest letting everybody have a bigger pm-capacity from the start is that there's no point of expanding the pm-capacity for people that never come here again after asking one question.

The stars, like your idea of a usergroup, gives one the idea of a ranking-system, we already have some people thinking that more stars equal a better poster, this idea of a special usergroup adds to the idea, now we don't just get five-star veterans, suddenly we also have an elite.

I don't understand how you can find the concept so hard to grasp.


I do prefer the idea of making a member responsible for something or other, like you've done with gepper. Make a group called news guys or whatever, but don't make it a reward, but rather an assignment.

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Im also a tad confused with all the comments about athority figures and find them slightly misplaced and and hope you dont have some sort of need to place me in that sort of role so Im set to be the one that represents all your against somehow. I still consider myself a member primarily and whatever I or any of the Team does is just simply to hopefully make FST a better place for us all.

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That was more of an aside than anything. To clarify, I do feel that authority is necessary to some extent as it actually promotes equality. BY having mods on here, people can't insult others to silence and such, which promotes the idea of everyone being allowed to have a voice. I'm not keen on authority on principle, but as long as some can't respect others, or those rules we've all agreed on, then authority is needed as someone has to clean up the mess. Besides, I never felt any special need to respect someone more because they were a mod, instead I try treat people on here the way I do because of who they are.

WRT your idea, I'd much prefer (and this in any community, or situation) that any change came through a communal decision.

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At this stage the only purpose of this is just to encourage n00bs and members to become more active in areas that are drawing most of our new traffic which without there will be not much of anything other than a dozen regulars chatiing about ragging about how slow this place is and that its a waste of time. If you think back a little maybe youde remember or perhaps you would prefer it that way although I doubt it...

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I think that little improvements for every member will work better than larger improvements for a select few.

Of course a busier place is better, but that doesn't mean that we should alter what was good in the first place.

However, should this notion of yours turn out to be something everybody (except me) wanted, then it would be a communal decision, and I couldn't argue with that. You have to remember that decisions made by one admin or another in the past, turned out to repel people rather than attract them (I'm thinking of anti-spam, for one thing).

You could put it to a vote or something.


And while we are at it, see how many members actually think the frontpage is useful, and how many people there are that have a habit of looking at it :unsure:

@SnnY I have given everything youve mentioned consideration and have removed the thought of deciding who is good (or better which seems your concern) at giving assistant. The fact is after some though I dont even want to be a part of making such decisions. The fast is the usergroup is now as you mentioned an assignment to keep it simple. As for the portal I see no reason to take a poll on it as allot of hard work has gone into it and is only a positive for us and in NO could waybe considered a negative at all.

@MCHeshPants420 At this point a member within the usergroup will have a color change and stars to match which we already have in place and unmoderated posting in News for efficiency. This will be based on a very simple formula (as SnnY mentioned) for those who post a given amount in certain areas within a certain time frame. Im thinking 15 per month or something similar. Those that do such should, ,can, and I suggest, change their titles to match what their doing or keep the customized ones that they already have so the name of the group is actually irrelevant anyway. I dont think attaching Job or Worker is needed for obvious reasons as I wouldnt want anyone to feel like thats what this was. Of course if a better name comes along that stands out then thats great and if there are a few we could decide from there.

Maybe take a look at the layout now

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There will be a usergroup added to FST called Forum Contributors. Of course anyone can still change their user title to whatever they want. The name is mainly only used for the admin panel and if anyone views member ranks.

Forum Contributors Will Be

Those that post front page News regularly.
Those that post Verifieds regularly.
Those that post NZB regularly.


Forum Contributors Changes Will be

Orange stars and bold nick in same color to match.
Ability to post News without need for moderation.

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Looks very simple and non elitist and I cant imagine any further offense being taken to this. I have met your concerns and made changes to meet at a nice middle ground so perhaps you could do the same and accept my efforts to do so as I think its good enough for all concerns now.

The only thing intended to accomplish out of this from its original conception was to encourage more posting in areas that are getting the most views currently and taking the most Google hits also. These areas are ultimately in my thought the gateway for n00bs to arrive within our community which is in the best for us all...

Mostly, Im with Snny here, an excellent post imo.

Also, if im right (I may be wrong) the front page has some sort of code or some gizmo-magnet-thingie-stuff-whatever
that spose to get FST more "reputation" or some such on the search engines and other
places that does the gategorizing and eventually bring more folks here,
in which case, I wouldnt throw the front page away.

Anyhoo, I havent been here that much lately so I might be terribly wrong in late turns.

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@Afronaut Ive done everything I can think of to meet SunnY in the middle regarding his concers if you read though...

The portal is there so we have some sort of a home page, and it lets us add more pages such as the board rules and disclaimer notice.
Not sure why you think we should remvoe that. :blink:

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@Afronaut Ive done everything I can think of to meet SunnY in the middle regarding his concers if you read though...

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Apart from spell his name right :P

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@Afronaut Ive done everything I can think of to meet SunnY in the middle regarding his concers if you read though...

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Apart from spell his name right :P

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Meh - It's right phonetically ;)

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Originally Posted by RealitY

Orange stars and bold nick in same color to match.

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Get rid of this and I think you've got a workable idea. Stars shouldn't mean anything, that's why we get people spamming in Gameworld; spammers trying to improve their post count to get more stars. Let's not encourage that by awarding "special" stars to actual contributors.

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

Let's not encourage that by awarding "special" stars to actual contributors.

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You'd think that would make them actually contribute. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

Let's not encourage that by awarding "special" stars to actual contributors.

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You'd think that would make them actually contribute. :rolleyes:

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I'm sorry Ross, I'm not sure who you are referring to. Potential contributors or the spam-monkeys that infest Gameworld?

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You'd think that would make them actually contribute. :rolleyes:

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I'm sorry Ross, I'm not sure who you are referring to. Potential contributors or the spam-monkeys that infest Gameworld?

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spam-monkeys that infest gameworld. ;)

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Originally Posted by RealitY

Orange stars and bold nick in same color to match.

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Get rid of this and I think you've got a workable idea. Stars shouldn't mean anything, that's why we get people spamming in Gameworld; spammers trying to improve their post count to get more stars. Let's not encourage that by awarding "special" stars to actual contributors.

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Although thats exactly what SnnY and others dont want and the actual fact of having to choose and not to choose is a task I doubt anyone wants at this point anyawy. Ive already met a decent middle ground and think its good enough and dont see or removing anymore. The point of you or others being offended by the color of someones stars is a bit much really and if so then you have plenty worry about already...

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

Get rid of this and I think you've got a workable idea. Stars shouldn't mean anything, that's why we get people spamming in Gameworld; spammers trying to improve their post count to get more stars. Let's not encourage that by awarding "special" stars to actual contributors.

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Although thats exactly what SnnY and others dont want and the actual fact of having to choose and not to choose is a task I doubt anyone wants at this point anyawy. Ive already met a decent middle ground and think its good enough and dont see or removing anymore. The point of you or others being offended by the color of someones stars is a bit much really and if so then you have plenty worry about already...

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I can't understand you. The post makes no sense. You need to take your time and proof-read your posts. If you can't communicate your own ideas then how can I know for sure that you even understand mine or SnnY's or anyones points?

I think you need to go back and think of proper ways to generate more traffic to the board instead of dividing the board up into childish groups. People didn't like this idea last time it was suggested a couple years back (?) and it seems they still don't. Why do people have to "met a decent middle ground" (if that's what you meant...) if they mostly think your idea sucks? :blink:

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Originally Posted by Afronaut

Also, if im right (I may be wrong) the front page has some sort of code or some gizmo-magnet-thingie-stuff-whatever
that spose to get FST more "reputation" or some such on the search engines and other
places that does the gategorizing and eventually bring more folks here,
in which case, I wouldnt throw the front page away.

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We could keep it, but we could let this url: www.filesharingtalk.com point to the forum index and let another url, like "www.filesharingtalk.com/portal" point to the portal.

That way it'll still be there to bring people in, but our frontpage proper would be the forum index. Like I want.

I've asked a few people and none of them had gone to the frontpage on purpose, some had seen it, but that was 'cos they didn't remember the full url to the forum index.

Just a thought, really.

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Originally Posted by manker

That said, I imagine that it will happen anyway so to avoid the problems SnnY outlined, I think a public poll to decide exactly who these special people are going to be would be a good idea. Abiding by a democratic decision that goes against you sits a lot easier than putting up with a whim of an individual.

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I think that a poll with nominations for contributors would be a good idea.