man how did pot screw up so much?!!?
makin a nice russian ts into there crap, bad AR, blocky ass cam lol
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man how did pot screw up so much?!!?
makin a nice russian ts into there crap, bad AR, blocky ass cam lol
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Originally Posted by neotheone
They're planning on making 2 more sequels? Is that bs like when Indepence Day came out? Still waiting for those sequels...not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
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Not looking forward to this film now. They really fucked up The Time Machine, another favourite of mine. Be interesting to see how Spielburg handles the themes HG Wells introduced in his novel or if he changes this into a piece of cheese.
How so Busyman,if I remember the book it finish's same as the film
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Originally Posted by gripper103.2
Spoiler: ShowMaybe in the sequl they invade in bio-suits? :lol:
If anyone is interestedthis link http://www.rense.com/general4/hg.htm takes you to the original radio broadcast of WOTW by Orson Wells that caused panic in the U.S when first broadcast
I guess Spilberg really took care dealing with his movie,
it's been almost three days and theres still no decent copy
on the web, just russian, german and spanish cam's. Damn, Im
waiting for a nice copy, its an ejoyable movie.
i have the russian ts with english audio :DQuote:
Originally Posted by worldpease
Hey guyver, and could you give us some detail,
is it available somewhere?, did you make it?, is it
good quality?, may be some screenshots.
Good movie however........
Spoiler: Show1. Cruise's ex-wife's brownstone was conveniently immaculate.
2. The things were in the ground all this fucking time like fucking cicadas. So no one noticed a huge hulking metal mass...phone company, water and sewer, construction folk?
3. The aliens looked like the one's from ID4.
4. The son should have been dead...if just for his stupidity alone...and the fact that our military got there ass engulfed by a huge fireball...and uh..he was with 'em.
5. Why would Tom NOT talk to his son, daughter, and especially the mechanic about the impending disaster...it's fucking stupid.
6. I knew the son was going to fuck up when it was his turn to drive. If he saw a rack of people, he should have turned his ass around. Tom should have run over the lady and her kid. He also should have picked up his gun.
7. Kudos for Tom killing Shawshank (really :clap: ) but conveniently leaving his daughter alone while alien eyes prowl about.
There ya go.
8. Kudos for also assuming you can go to sleep with no one keeping watch simply because the aliens came in the basement before. They couldn't possibly come again. They already checked and they said, "All clear". :dry:
9. The machines had not one but two asshole sphincters. However they were gay alien machines 'cause they liked it one way and that way was inward. :sick: They practically ate with their ass...es.
10. I'll say it. His daughter was a dipshit. If you get scared, you don't run upstairs to where the aliens are. When you do shit like that, you get yourself and you father placed in an alien rectum. :sick:
11. If there's an alien invasion, you don't stop to conversate with an old fuck partner. You get on the damn boat. Fucking may proceed after which you avoid being vaporized. :1eye:
12. How many fucking times...during an alien invasion does a motherfucker have to point up to the sky (you know...where the aliens are) for a trained soldier to take a look (you know....follow the pointing finger). "Look at the birds...ya dipshit. L-O-O-K U-P.......YESYES..U-P YA DIPSHIT!!!".
13. They shat/bled Fanta Orange....or was it SunKist? Everytime a tripod was shot or had diarrhea, I got thirsty.
14. Btw, it was mighhhhhhty convenient that when Tom was driving his minivan...past everyone else that was stranded on the road..he had a nice, however winding, clear path to ease on down the road.
This also occured after the Donnie Darko/FirstEpisodeLost moment. He just drove away...debris nicely parted for him like a bad haircut.
After all of that, I still liked the movie. WTF?!!!
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I've never read the book befor but can anyone enlighten me on the ending. I just grabbbed any old copy (it was watchable) and it cuts off right after Morgan Freeman says;
They were doomed from the start-
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What did stop them? Bird's? I thought it was some kinda bacteria :huh: at least thats what i had heard. Also when there in that basement with that old guy did anyone else feel that the scene dragged on way to long, the aliens searched for like 10 minutes then went, and then another alien came for another 10 minutes.
After reading a review in a national newspaper claiming it to be the best action movie ever i felt as if i had been robbed. The fact that the sotry only follows Cruise means you don't get a whole sense of the battle (Which by the seems of the night and day timings lasted 1 night, hardly a hard battle was it :rolleyes:
No...in the book, it took place in the late 1800's, there was more than just tri-pods, there were also flying machines. And I don't think they sprayed human blood in the novel either.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Peerzy
Spoiler: ShowThey were stopped by bacteria which they didn't have any immunity to. I had the same copy as you but that's what Morgan Freeman was about to explain. The birds were just able to land because when aliens feel a bit ill they like to shut down their shields... :blink:
This is from the musical version but I think it is similar to what MF was going to say:
I agree with you about that basement scene. The movie was okay-ish up until then but it did lose a lot due to focusing on Tom Cruise & family. I wanted to see shit get fucked up, and I'm sure HG Wells would have wanted to see a large industrial country getting pwned.Quote:
Directly the Invaders arrived and drank and fed, our microscopic allies attacked them. From that moment - they were doomed!
watched it
cool film the effects were wicked tom did some good acting
worthing watching
Best movie of 2005, in fact it's the best movie that I've seen in a very long time, and it's well overdue. Definitely worth my money, I recommend everyone to see it. At first I was skeptic and thought it was a crappy movie with over the top special fx, but there's actually a good story here (if you haven't read the book, don't watch it, read it then watch, trust me on this one).
And for those that keep complaining about how the story only follows Cruise around and doesnt focus on the bigger picture, I dare you to try and make one that does, this movie was never meant to be an epic like LOTR (god i hate that movie[s]).
I was laughing my ass off when that Robbie kid was like: "was it terrorists?" and then Cruise said no and then the dumbass says: "was it from europe?" :lol:
Okay i'll compare it to the first LOTR.Quote:
Originally Posted by cpt_azad
First off the whole storyline on LOTR is set arround those 10 characters (The fellowship + Gandalf), and its 10 characters. They are the main focus for the story and for what is happening arround the world. Also it cuts alot to the evil guys to show what they are doing and whats up with them.
WOTW stays on 3 characters the whole movie, none of them drive the story, you get to see very little of who they are fighting and get no real sense of what the enemy is. The movie goes suddenly from the whole of the human race being captured or destoryed (right after the basement/underground house scene) to them walking into a town populated by thousands and the war all but over.
So the 'war to end all wars' lasted less than 24 hours.
There was no indication till right at the end that what happened happened and how the certain side won. Infact i didn't even know the Aliens had shields under Cheese just said.
How on earth did it go from the end of the human race to, millions have survived, everythings cool. Also the film then continues to contradict science. There weakness was Bacteria, so apparently there was no bacteria in the group where they had been living for millions of years. Or when they first start popping up in that town where Cruise is, your telling me that all the destruction and the dust and rubble contained no bacteria.
I like Cheese wanted to see the film focus less on the family and more on mankinds struggle. Basically the whole moral of the film is that no matter what, if you love your family and you're american god will bless you and everything will be fine.
6/10 - Nothing more than a pro-american special effects fest.
well for one thing, you are right about it being hella pro-american peerz. As for the whole "first person perspective" (ok before flame i know it's not FPS, it's like third person but focused only on 3-4 characters).
You must be blind, I saw the shields atleast 3-5 times in the movie, mostly during the whole hand-grenade incident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
As for the whole war being over in 24hours, I agree too, too short. I was hoping it would be longer, the movie was way too rushed, they should have released it in 2007.
But still, this movie is the best sci-fi this year, or possible ever IF it wasn't so short and they could show just a bit more of other ppl's perspective, even the aliens. The audio in this movie is the most brutal (in a good way) and hair raising sound I have ever heard in my life, every time those horns went off I had goosebumps.
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Originally Posted by cpt_azad
Saving Private Ryan had better sound effects overall then this movie.
Best Sci-Fi ever? Alien? Best Action movie ever? Die Hard?
Releasing a movi in 2007 also does not make the time scale i the movie increase by 2 years just to let you know :rolleyes:
About the shields, i saw them however never really registered them. For example Inderpendance Day we saw the Aliens had shields yes, then they talked about them having shields, then they made a plan to wide out the shields, then thy did the plane, in this you saw a shield or two then at the end of the movie when the bidget had run out they get Tom to point at some birds on an alien, even then he didn't mention the shields.
Before the end town fight you don't see the army fighting the aliens on a large scale. Maybe they should have showed the army trying to fight them, then finding out about the shields then all dieing.
Also thinking about it there wasn't one character (even a minor character) who was an ethnic minoraty.
Seeing as the book was based in my home town (Woking/Horsell) quite a rural area why they decided to shift everything to America and totally forget the rest of the world exists.
The only other country that featured/was mentioned was Ukraine, and im pritty sure most American's think thats a state anyway :rolleyes:
How Cruise manages to survive everything also. When the plane crashes on his house, not only his him and his family perfectly fine, but his nice car survives without a scratch.
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Also thinking about it there wasn't one character (even a minor character) who was an ethnic minoraty.
Another good point, like I said (and you said too) this movie is pro-american to the max. But it's still a damn good movie, I didn't say it was the best sci-fi ever (re-read post and look for the capatalized IF). And if they released it in 2007, then they would have a lot more time to increase showtime and add more things into it like going into detail how the aliens were defeated and overall make the movie longer and more coherent.Quote:
The only other country that featured/was mentioned was Ukraine, and im pritty sure most American's think thats a state anyway :rolleyes:
One thing that really pissed me off was how the hell did that Robbie kid survive, that really made the movie look like a cliched POS.
Yup, quick run off into the ball of flames and hundreds of tripod aliens, as long as you love America it's fine :dry:
sounds like a roland emmerich movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
i'll prolly see it eventually, despite being lukewarm to cruise and spielberg (they've both done some good movies, but... EH). 'cause i'm a genre junkie and will give most anything a chance if it has decent rayguns or a werewolf. howzzit compare to, say, Independence Day re: amount of cliche, syrupy patriotism, entertainment value, etc... can i expect it to be better or worse than that one? is it just resting on its literary credentials, or what. ?:|
Spoiler: ShowWhy did Spielburg have to change the story with the aliens already having their machines on Earth. Like I think Busyman pointed out they'd have been noticed by someone. Also if they have the technology to beam themselves across space in lightning, set up tripods from space you have to think they'd have picked up on bacteria.
All I can think is that their governement was a bit tight-ass like ours and wouldn't provide full military gear for its soldiers.
Whilst we're on those lines why the hell was Europe hit the hardest? Do you hate us that much? From a military point of view (and these aliens have been watching us for all this time with envious eyes so you'd think they'd have a decent plan) they should be attacking the country with the biggest army and most nukes the hardest...
Making the aliens have those stupid impenetrable shields from the crappy 50's movie sucked as well. Make them like the novels war machines and have them hard to bring down but possible. Then we could have had the "Thunderchild" scene. That would have rocked. Instead we just get a ferry being turned over.
The main problem of this movie, was of course, the fact that we are just seeing the story from TC's eyes. The novel does this as well but rather than that character being central to the plot he is more there to be an observer to destruction of the world. Perhaps that doesn't work too well as a film, we need character development, but Spielburg swung too hard in that direction methinks.
I gave it 6/10 at IMDB. It's not much cop. Though, there have been two other WOTW films released this year which I've seen and they were truely awful. So if you only watch one War of the Worlds movie this year make it Spielburgs.;)
This one's not as patriotic as Independence Day (duh) or most Emmerich films, but it does kinda take a page from the "America is better than you so STFU and GTFO cuz we're the only ones that can destroy these alien dudes" despite the fact that we're insignificant to these aliens as they will kill any human and that the Japanese have already taken down a few. (meh so i said japanese, oh noes i've violated a spoiler law or some BS like that).Quote:
Originally Posted by 3RA1N1AC
It's a good movie all round, especially the starting and the middle parts, the ending just plain sucked (way too rushed). The audio (keyword here is audio) and special fx are top-notch. But it all kinda boils down to how you like your movies, I'd check this one out if I were you then you can let us know what you think, every one has an opinion.
Obviously the Japanese had help from Godzilla and those giant robots they seem to love so much. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by cpt_azad
You are kind of contradicting yourself in that sentence. ;)Quote:
It's a good movie all round, especially the starting and the middle parts, the ending just plain sucked (way too rushed).
I just got back from seeing this film, and I thought it was amazing! Not having read the book or seen the old film, I wasn't disapointed with any of it. Sure, it ran out of steam near the end, but the rest had been so enjoyable I didn't really care!
I don't know the where some of you get this American patriotic stuff from besides the fact our military is fighting them. ID4 had this big time but with this movie, it's was pretty much nonexistent.
....and wtf is wrong with some of you? Ya got an inferiority complex or sumthin'?
If the movie takes place in America it doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't matter. IT MEANS THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE IN AMERICA. I didn't feel slighted 'cause the aliens didn't blow up the White House.
Get a fucking life.
It's an American made movie ffs. A European company could have bought the rights and made set the movie in the small village of WelshChesHorshire for all I care and I doubt Americans would have given a shit.
Btw, shields were mentioned in a news broadcast of something early in the movie.
And after all this....Spoiler: Show1. Cruise's ex-wife's brownstone was conveniently immaculate.
2. The things were in the ground all this fucking time like fucking cicadas. So no one noticed a huge hulking metal mass...phone company, water and sewer, construction folk?
3. The aliens looked like the one's from ID4.
4. The son should have been dead...if just for his stupidity alone...and the fact that our military got there ass engulfed by a huge fireball...and uh..he was with 'em.
5. Why would Tom NOT talk to his son, daughter, and especially the mechanic about the impending disaster...it's fucking stupid.
6. I knew the son was going to fuck up when it was his turn to drive. If he saw a rack of people, he should have turned his ass around. Tom should have run over the lady and her kid. He also should have picked up his gun.
7. Kudos for Tom killing Shawshank (really :clap: ) but conveniently leaving his daughter alone while alien eyes prowl about.
There ya go.
8. Kudos for also assuming you can go to sleep with no one keeping watch simply because the aliens came in the basement before. They couldn't possibly come again. They already checked and they said, "All clear". :dry:
9. The machines had not one but two asshole sphincters. However they were gay alien machines 'cause they liked it one way and that way was inward. :sick: They practically ate with their ass...es.
10. I'll say it. His daughter was a dipshit. If you get scared, you don't run upstairs to where the aliens are. When you do shit like that, you get yourself and you father placed in an alien rectum. :sick:
11. If there's an alien invasion, you don't stop to conversate with an old fuck partner. You get on the damn boat. Fucking may proceed after which you avoid being vaporized. :1eye:
12. How many fucking times...during an alien invasion does a motherfucker have to point up to the sky (you know...where the aliens are) for a trained soldier to take a look (you know....follow the pointing finger). "Look at the birds...ya dipshit. L-O-O-K U-P.......YESYES..U-P YA DIPSHIT!!!".
13. They shat/bled Fanta Orange....or was it SunKist? Everytime a tripod was shot or had diarrhea, I got thirsty.
14. Btw, it was mighhhhhhty convenient that when Tom was driving his minivan...past everyone else that was stranded on the road..he had a nice, however winding, clear path to ease on down the road.
This also occured after the Donnie Darko/FirstEpisodeLost moment. He just drove away...debris nicely parted for him like a bad haircut.
....the movie was still good besides the fact...it actually should have been more focused on blowing shit up but I think they wanted to utilize Tom Cruise more in the acting department.
I love the scene where all the clothes are falling out of the sky btw.
Actually no-one has to buy the rights as the novel is in the public domain. This is evidenced by the fact that we have two other films released this year of War of the Worlds. One being set in London at the time the novel was based, it is dire beyond belief though. There is even an animated version of Jeff Wayne's coming out next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
I have no problem with Spielburg's film being set in America at all, and I'm sure HG Wells would have approved of it being set in the world's most industrialized country. I reckon if Wells was with us now he'd have wanted the film "more focused on blowing shit up", if only for his dislike of industrialization.
The throwaway comment about Europe being hit the hardest is kind of funny. If I was an alien invader I'd have left the Europeans until last, after all they'd (the Europeans) would have been trying to find a peaceful solution to the invasion... ;)
"If we just maintain sanctions on the aliens we can resolve this conflict peacefully..." - French/German diplomat.
:lol: :lol: .....as they get vaporized leaving only their shirt with no mark of underarm deodorant to speak of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fake Shemp
Well shit if there are 2 movies set in Europe, maybe they can say America gets hit hardest and we can get all bent of out shape about it. :dry:
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Originally Posted by Busyman
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Thing is, no other country exists in the movie. It would be like the movie Pearl Harbor but insted of bombing Japan, they bomb a different part of America cause they got lost, and then America fights back against....America :blink:
Also they changed the location dramatically. It would be like taking Lord Of The Flies and setting it in New York.
The kid also wants to be a patriotic hero and goes off into the big ball of fire to fight and die, only you find out at the end thats not the case and he magically knew where his mum was and such.
What happend in Europe? What happened in Aisa? What happened in Africa? What happened in South America? What happened in Oceania? All you get to see is the story of one invinceable man sit in some cave for 20 minutes then come out and America has won the war pritty much.
It's stupid that just because its an American film, means the whole story has to have American values, all the actors have to be American, the settings have to be American, there can be no anti-American views in the film and so on.
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Originally Posted by Peerzy
Spoiler: ShowSorry Peerzy but to me it makes sense that the film is set in America. HG Wells wanted to show his reader the arrogance of the superpowers in both his aliens and how easily a super-industrial-power (like America, or England in his novel) could be bought to its knees. I guess Spielburg copped out a bit by throwing in the European comment but I just dismissed that as a character in the film giving inaccurate information (not that it is that important).
To be honest there wasn't much flag waving patriosm in this film and in the context of seeing the whole film through TC's eyes and his family's it would have made no sense to cut to what was happening in England/Japan/Australia.
I don't think you can claim that the film ends with America being declared the victor because it is obvious that bacteria is what killed the aliens. All in all it wasn't as nauseting as Idenpendence Day, there were a couple of bits that Europeans will roll their eyes up at but nothing anyone should get too wound up about.
The film itself does end badly though. The last 20 minutes drag and TC becomes an action hero to take out a tripod. But the worst bit by far was the boy surviving. Sentimental crap, everyone else in the film gets killed but this whole family survives? Yeah, right...
By the way if the film had been set in the Middle East then the aliens would have been in trouble. Suicide bombers vrs Tripods? The suicide bomber just waits until he's been caught by a tripod and getting taken inside and detonates...:pinch of salt:
Verrrry good point. However, in a war such as this, there would be many suicide bombers in many countries (once the :shit: (pun intended) was figured out).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fake Shemp
Think of the small sacrifice. There weren't that many tripods per capita.
Are you some new type of idiot? :huh: Read this spoiler below......Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
Well the film was made for entertainment and not for Peerzy's anti-American views to pop in. The plot of film seem to be okay without it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
The setting was American but what "American values"? If the setting is America wouldn't there be American's in it...or does Peerzy feel left out.
Get a life and stop watching AMERICAN movies then.
Not really, just badly put. I'm trying to say it's a good movie, it would have been BETTER if the ending wasn't so rushed, the ending was abrupt. The movie tried so hard to not let TC be a hero and make the movie cliched and I loved that they tried for 3/4 of the film, but then they said "ah fuck it. lets just make our lives easier and make him a hero" that really ticked me off. If they could have done what they were doing the whole film till the end, then this movie woulda been excellent but then Spielberg decides to give TC a bunch of grenades and says "ok now act like your Tony Montana..." :dry: But still, very good movie if you can put up with the ending.Quote:
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Spoiler: ShowObviously this only works if all tripods are assigned to gather people up. Perhaps there were harvester units and all out war units roaming America (and the rest of the world of course ;) ).
So these aliens weaknesses were bacteria and having grenades shoved up their butts? :lol:
LMFAO, this reminds me of something my friend said when the movie ended, it was hilarious. The ending (to him [and me to some extent]) was so rushed and abrupt he didn't really understand it.
Morgan Freeman tells of how the aliens were defeated, end credits start to roll
Friend: "So wait, Internal Affairs knew that he was with the FBI?"
Laughed a little to hard after hearing that, almost choked on popcorn....
They used the humans for power. It was the Matrix all over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fake Shemp
what does it say on my copy it goes "the moment they landed and brathed out air" then goes silent
any help on this would be great