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I don't see whatthe problem is with pm'ing people when you remove a post of thiers. I mean wtf, its common decency.

You want to be treated with the respect you think you deserve, then treat us with the respect we think we deserve :dry:

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And I don't see what the problem is pm'ing the Team with problems. I mean wtf, its common decency.

You want to be treated with the respect you think you deserve, then treat us with the respect we think we deserve :rolleyes:

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Well done for quoting my post back to me :D

Why should the onus be on the member though when its the team member deleting the post? :unsure:

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Originally Posted by SnnY

Rob, I can't speak for everyone else, but I certainly didn't post anything just to try and see how far I could go in the thread in question.

If someone has, willfully, been doing that, and you are sure of it, then that's another thing entirely.

And as for pm:ing anybody, I tried that twice in the past when threads of mine went missing, and the mods I asked to find out came back, only being able to tell me that it was probably <insert whoever (possibly) did it>, that felt like a fairly pointless exercise.


Hell, the only time I was ever on moderation no one told me who put me on it, (Although I have a fairly good idea of who and why, 'cos I'd been a bad boy :D)

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I assure you I'm not accusing you of doing it willfully, but its been a trend lately, and needs to stop. There has been a focus on the games section lately, even resulting in moderation periods for some, buts its becoming a trend all over the board. Please, we are accountable for our actions with the rest of the team. When there is a serious problem with any action taken, it does come up. The Mod/Admin team are not robots. we all do the best we can and make decisions as best we can. We were all asked to do this job based on who we were, and our ability to do it. It doesn't mean we all agree all the time, but are able to work things out amongst each other. Attacking individual team members needs to come to an end also. I cannot think of many boards that would allow even a topic such as this to begin with. I see people want pm's when their topic/posts are deleted, but how many of thosw who want it actually send Pm's to the team before starting topics such as these ? :rolleyes:

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Like I said, in my earlier experiences there was no point in picking a team-member at random to pm, 'cos they didn't know who did it anyway.

This reaction isn't a sudden one, it's been building up to this for quite some time for me.

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Originally Posted by SnnY

Like I said, in my earlier experiences there was no point in picking a team-member at random to pm, 'cos they didn't know who did it anyway.

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Create a thread in the report section, this way all teammembers can read it and the one who removed your reply will post a comment or reason.

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I assure you I'm not accusing you of doing it willfully, but its been a trend lately, and needs to stop. There has been a focus on the games section lately, even resulting in moderation periods for some, buts its becoming a trend all over the board. Please, we are accountable for our actions with the rest of the team. When there is a serious problem with any action taken, it does come up. The Mod/Admin team are not robots. we all do the best we can and make decisions as best we can. We were all asked to do this job based on who we were, and our ability to do it. It doesn't mean we all agree all the time, but are able to work things out amongst each other. Attacking individual team members needs to come to an end also. I cannot think of many boards that would allow even a topic such as this to begin with. I see people want pm's when their topic/posts are deleted, but how many of thosw who want it actually send Pm's to the team before starting topics such as these ? :rolleyes:

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Like I said, in my earlier experiences there was no point in picking a team-member at random to pm, 'cos they didn't know who did it anyway.

This reaction isn't a sudden one, it's been building up to this for quite some time for me.

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If you think you know who did it you can PM them, if you have no idea you can use the report section... All mods see that.

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Originally Posted by DanB

Why should the onus be on the member though when its the team member deleting the post? :unsure:

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If the same logic could be used by moderators it would look like:

Why should the onus be on the moderator though when its the member who posted poorly? :unsure:

It all makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by DanB

Why should the onus be on the member though when its the team member deleting the post? :unsure:

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If the same logic could be used by moderators it would look like:

Why should the onus be on the moderator though when its the member who posted poorly? :unsure:

It all makes no sense.

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With power comes responsibility

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Like I said, in my earlier experiences there was no point in picking a team-member at random to pm, 'cos they didn't know who did it anyway.

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No. You should just sign off in the thread if you delete any offending posts. That way a person can just cut out the whole middle-man and PM the moderator who deleted the post directly if they feel they have been wronged. Also, other people will realise that this sort of thing is not tolerated.

Why are you so averse to admitting that you have taken action? Most other boards I inhabit are more strict but they will always tell you when they have taken action. How hard is it to make a simple post saying, "Sorry guys I've had to delete a few posts because they were off-topic. Please PM me with any questions"?

Stop being lazy, stop hiding behind rules. Or stop being a moderator, it's not as if we need as many of you guys as we seem to have.

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No. You should just sign off in the thread if you delete any offending posts. That way a person can just cut out the whole middle-man and PM the moderator who deleted the post directly if they feel they have been wronged. Also, other people will realise that this sort of thing is not tolerated.

Why are you so averse to admitting that you have taken action? Most other boards I inhabit are more strict but they will always tell you when they have taken action. How hard is it to make a simple post saying, "Sorry guys I've had to delete a few posts because they were off-topic. Please PM me with any questions"?

Stop being lazy, stop hiding behind rules. Or stop being a moderator, it's not as if we need as many of you guys as we seem to have.

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We (I) dont hide behind rules. we (I) follow them. (a thing some of you dont)

I still dont see the point in sending a PM when I delete a completely useless reply.
We are talking about 2 sections this section and the games section. As you can see both have a sticky saying off-topic replies WILL be removed or moved to the lounge. we dont remove ALL off-topic replies sometimes a thread just goes off-topic but still remains a serious thread.

and I'm not lazy, you must have no idea how much time I have spent here trying to improve this forum/website.

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Originally Posted by Virtualbody1234

If the same logic could be used by moderators it would look like:

Why should the onus be on the moderator though when its the member who posted poorly? :unsure:

It all makes no sense.

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With power comes responsibility

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Members have responsability too.

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No. You should just sign off in the thread if you delete any offending posts. That way a person can just cut out the whole middle-man and PM the moderator who deleted the post directly if they feel they have been wronged. Also, other people will realise that this sort of thing is not tolerated.

Why are you so averse to admitting that you have taken action? Most other boards I inhabit are more strict but they will always tell you when they have taken action. How hard is it to make a simple post saying, "Sorry guys I've had to delete a few posts because they were off-topic. Please PM me with any questions"?

Stop being lazy, stop hiding behind rules. Or stop being a moderator, it's not as if we need as many of you guys as we seem to have.

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We (I) dont hide behind rules. we (I) follow them. (a thing some of you dont)

I still dont see the point in sending a PM when I delete a completely useless reply.
We are talking about 2 sections this section and the games section. As you can see both have a sticky saying off-topic replies WILL be removed or moved to the lounge. we dont remove ALL off-topic replies sometimes a thread just goes off-topic but still remains a serious thread.

and I'm not lazy, you must have no idea how many time I have spent here trying to improve this forum/website.

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See the other day you deleted one of my posts when I pointed out that you should re-open the Michael Jackson thread in the lounge to keep off-topic comments out of the Boring Tomb thread. Now the fact that you re-opened that thread suggests that my idea was useful. So why the deletion? Turns out it was a useful suggestion to something you posted in that thread. I'm sure other people can argue similary against deletions of their posts.

If you think it's a useless post fine enough, but at least give a person a chance to defend themselves by admitting to a deletion in the thread. Also, if they continue bad form (by your standards) they will have been given ample public warnings.

And if you don't want people to think that you are lazy then you should really jump at the chance of proving it by the insertion of a few posts indicating that you are doing your job. By saying you have deleted a post you are also saying "Hey, look at me! I'm doing my job!" ;)

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Originally Posted by DanB

With power comes responsibility

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We can't delete posts though. :blink:

You are right I should have send you a PM after I removed your post from the MJ thread in the The Drawing Room, but I thought you would understand if I removed it because your reply didn't add anything to the current discussion in that thread

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With power comes responsibility

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No they don't.

That's just a cop out.

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Originally Posted by JPaul

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Members have responsability too.

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No they don't.

That's just a cop out.

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VB is used to that though, he copped out of being a mod after all :pinch:

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No they don't.

That's just a cop out.

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VB is used to that though, he copped out of being a mod after all :pinch:

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I thought VB made for a good mod, and it was a shame he left after the Yogi/sig thing (if memory serves me right...).

I had a mod nice enough PM to tell me he deleted my post and thats all I asked for. do that then us members will STFU about it..

Its just common curtsy

what do you do when you work in a business?? do you burn documentation without telling a employee

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Yes, there is. Because if we have a complaint about it, if we feel our post is on-topic and that you are being unfair we need to know who to engage to make a complaint.

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guess what I have 1 problem with rule 13

how the flying fuck are we suppose to know who deleted the post to PM???

and if you mods read your rules guess what yoru breaking them!!!!

NikkiD posted once the rules for mods in this board like me to bump it???

and deleteing posts without explanation was not one of them

oh and IKE ive been around the forum for over 2 year before you were mod when i was posting shit worse shit long before any of you here and the mods back then couldn't care less you could never handle me back then the old mods are far Superior to the new ones

is there an option to disagree to this thread
or is it oneway conversation

you guys think the gamesworld part is bad????

i guess you NEW mods were in nappies 2 years ago when musicworld was known as the music lounge and it kicked the living shit out of teh gamesworld spam you see now

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No they don't.

That's just a cop out.

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VB is used to that though, he copped out of being a mod after all :pinch:

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Fuck off. http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smi...ingerright.gif You don't know what your talking about.

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I thought VB made for a good mod, and it was a shame he left after the Yogi/sig thing (if memory serves me right...).

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Very good. You do have a good memory but it involved more than just the sig thing. There were other thing going on within the team at the time.

{I}{K}{E} is power crazy, so why should we care. This topic should be closed too.

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{I}{K}{E} is power crazy, so why should we care. This topic should be closed too.

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Hehehehehe...

Thanks for the giggles, I was waiting for that one.
Yes, 1|{3 0u7 0f (0n7r0|, w3 mu57 |{1LL |-|1|\/| !!!oneoneon!!!11!!

Anyhoo.

For me it seems that folks like to pick on even the smallest things sometimes,
I guess its the nature of internet, especially forums.
The folks who spends the most time online usually are the ones that
gets the pants up the crack quicly, or they like to "make a point" just
for sake of argument. (or having fun arguing). Or maybe that's just imo.

Is there some sort of tension that keeps building up and needs to be
ejaculated over the board every now and then? I dunno, really.
Could it be a little lack of drama? Excitment? No?

Now, im not pointing any fingers here so you must not get tarred,
its just something about the vibe in here I wanted to post about.

I dont have a problem with Ike or any other Mod. deleting my off-topic stuff.
Personally I think Ike does much more good to this board than bad.
Infact, I think the current Team (excluding author) does more than decent job imo.

In one hand, them mods dont clean up enough so we got reports,
then again, some posts gots deleted and its considered really a bad thing.

Cant please everyone can we, no matter what?
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No Snny, I didnt delete you posts. I hardly delete anything, only if its reported
and that's because other mods has their eys on stuff more than I do.
But if I do delete something, im not sure if im arsed to send a PM but that all depends what the post was about.

Got enough hassle with PM's allready. I'd like to read and post too and not spend all my time in PM-box. (im a lazy git)

Basically, I think good enough solution for this is "PM a Mod issue" is
use the report section. Any mod can and will see it. Things get forward from there.


:D

(I'll get back to my UACD, checking back later...)

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Originally Posted by Virtualbody1234

If the same logic could be used by moderators it would look like:

Why should the onus be on the moderator though when its the member who posted poorly? :unsure:

It all makes no sense.

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See, here is the root of the problem. You see it as power, I see it as responsibilty. We do the best we can, and make an occasional mistake. I have shown my willingness on several occasions to make things right when that happens. Nobody ( and I don't mean you VB1234:P ) is perfect. There are several means of resolving problems without resulting in all the drama, and that was why I quoted your post back to you. We have made several options available, but most members don't use them. However, that doesn't mean just because you ( not you Dan, members in general) feel there is an issue, that the team will agree :rolleyes:

As I have already said, things have been slowly getting out of control, and I see no fault in Ike's judgement

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With power comes responsibility

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See, here is the root of the problem. You see it as power, I see it as responsibilty. We do the best we can, and make an occasional mistake. I have shown my willingness on several occasions to make things right when that happens. Nobody ( and I don't mean you VB1234:P ) is perfect. There are several means of resolving problems without resulting in all the drama, and that was why I quoted your post back to you. We have made several options available, but most members don't use them. However, that doesn't mean just because you ( not you Dan, members in general) feel there is an issue, that the team will agree :rolleyes:

As I have already said, things have been slowly getting out of control, and I see no fault in Ike's judgement

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The bottom line is Mods (IKE especially) and some admin make many poor judgements as well members.

Sometimes shit should be left well enough alone. Stop nitpicking.

Anytime a member gets banned for one post....

Has a post deleted for saying Star Wars sucks and isn't worth the dl (IKE, I know it was you)...

...and hides afterwards is worthy of derision.

Let some shit go. Unfortunately, I had to point out IKE since he seems to be culprit.

I used to like the fact that he was very active and adds stuff to the board but now it's undeniable that he takes himself too seriously and it's a horrible trade-off. Go outside some, read a book ffs. :dry:

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Has a post deleted for saying Star Wars sucks and isn't worth the dl (IKE, I know it was you)...

...and hides afterwards is worthy of derision.

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That was posted by a new member who signed up only to get a torrent invite I removed all his posts because they were all useless.

hide after deleting a post? :unsure:

You shouldn't be swapping torrent invites anyway. Unless you really know the person who you are giving them to. It's very poor form.

I think I said that in another thread as well.

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Has a post deleted for saying Star Wars sucks and isn't worth the dl (IKE, I know it was you)...

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That was posted by a new member who signed up only to get a torrent invite I removed all his posts because they were all useless.

hide after deleting a post? :unsure:

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It was my post IKE. :dry: I don't know about this other fella.

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That was posted by a new member who signed up only to get a torrent invite I removed all his posts because they were all useless.

hide after deleting a post? :unsure:

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It was my post IKE. :dry: I don't know about this other fella.

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then I also removed yours.

but I think you understand why it was removed.

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It was my post IKE. :dry: I don't know about this other fella.

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then I also removed yours.

but I think you understand why it was removed.

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Obviously cause I said the movie...

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....in a Star Wars thread.

Next time I'll give it praise to keep my precious post count up to it's esteemed levels.

Keep up the great work. :dry:

Is this a joke, was a post deleted because the person said they didn't like a movie.

In Movieworld.

In a thread about that movie.

What would the logic behind that be.

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Is this a joke, was a post deleted because the person said they didn't like a movie.
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Nope, as I understood, the posters posts was all removed as
t'was about spammin to get invites.

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Is this a joke, was a post deleted because the person said they didn't like a movie.

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It was removed because it didnt add anything to the discussion. Saying a movie sucks (in caps if I remember correct) without giving a reason is imo a useless reply.


so are we now gonna talk bout every post I removed in the past?

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Is this a joke, was a post deleted because the person said they didn't like a movie.
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Nope, as I understood, the posters posts was all removed as
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I meant the Busyman thing.

Like I said I don't agree with the whole invites thing anyway. If people know each other, fine do it in private. But invite swapping is just plain wrong and I am sure it will get the forum into bother. It is putting other people at risk to suit our own ends.

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Is this a joke, was a post deleted because the person said they didn't like a movie.

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It was removed because it didnt add anything to the discussion. Saying a movie sucks (in caps if I remember correct) without giving a reason is imo a useless reply.


so are we now gonna talk bout every post I removed in the past?

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Not me mate, I have no issue with you about that. I think you are a decent chap who does his best. The fact that I may not agree with you all the time is neither here nor there, that's just a matter of opinions.

However, as I have said often in the past, in my opinion censorship is wrong. Tho' I can see it is sometimes necessary. That is why things should be left alone, unless there is a reason to remove them. It is therefore up to the censor to justify what they do, not the poster.

I say again, a simple "deleted by IKE" is all it would take to satsify me. Not a PM. That way if I take issue with the decision I can contact you and we can discuss things like adults.

I've asked in the TC if there is a way we can let members see a deletion notice when only their post is removed. If I enable it now you can also see the deletion notice when someone elses post is removed which I think isn't needed for members to see.

I'm not saying if its possible we will enable this, because all team members need to agree on this before we enable such option for members ;)

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I've asked in the TC if there is a way we can let members see a deletion notice when only their post is removed. If I enable it now you can also see the deletion notice when someone elses post is removed which I think isn't needed for members to see.

I'm not saying if its possible we will enable this, because all team members need to agree on this before we enable such option for members ;)

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Thanks for that.

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Is this a joke, was a post deleted because the person said they didn't like a movie.

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It was removed because it didnt add anything to the discussion. Saying a movie sucks (in caps if I remember correct) without giving a reason is imo a useless reply.


so are we now gonna talk bout every post I removed in the past?

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Ok this is getting ridiculous.

It wasn't in caps. I don't post that way.

Second off, it's a fucking opinion. WhoTF knows what reasons I said it was a bad movie.

This IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! (oops ALL CAPS)

It is not your job to say my opinion is a usless reply...especially in a thread about the movie ffs.

Then to top it off, the reply magically disappears. The good thing is everytime there is a deletion like that..we all really should know which mod to PM 'cause no other mods do this in such an inconsistent and tyrannical manner. (Good Ole Deletion IKE)

That much is CaptainObvious and I'm done with it. There isn't anything you can say whatsoever as a comeback that will be of note. :dry:

Peace out.

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it's a fucking opinion. WhoTF knows what reasons I said it was a bad movie.

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It was your opinion yes, but dont you understand it's a bit useless if you dont tell us WHY you think its a bad movie?

Would you like it if everyone only posted things like 'nice movie' / 'didnt like it' / 'hated it' :huh:

If you start a thread in the movies section about a film you wanna talk about/discuss that movie not see posts like that.

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it's a fucking opinion. WhoTF knows what reasons I said it was a bad movie.

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It was your opinion yes, but dont you understand it's a bit useless if you dont tell us WHY you think its a bad movie?

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It's cool man. I'll try to adhere to your WHY format in the future and look forward to your future deletions of said non-adherence. I doubt you remember if I did post a reason tbh (seeing that you didn't remember the deletion and why would you among all the other mass deletions).

Logical as always. :1eye:

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it's a fucking opinion. WhoTF knows what reasons I said it was a bad movie.

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Would you like it if everyone only posted things like 'nice movie' / 'didnt like it' / 'hated it' :huh:

If you start a thread in the movies section about a film you wanna talk about/discuss that movie not see posts like that.

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Missed your edit....

The thing is I wouldn't micro-manage it to this degree.

I know there will be a post here and there like that and most of the time another member will call those posts into question and the reason will come out anyway. :dog: Run-On :dog:

It wouldn't be my job to ensure this unless it gets out-of-hand.