Tv Controls you Banned from FST?

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Originally Posted by Tv Controls you

At the darkest perception of my incident I attempted to sell an invite, which I believe is alot different than selling an invite and receiving money.

But in all reality selling is happening on this forum

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Steam accounts to Trade for invites/accounts
Reason Im trading this is because I no longer play css,1.6 ect Ive had steam uninstalled for awhile now lols. Anyways the games on the account are

Steam account 1 Games: Half Life 2, Counter Strike Source, Hl2M HL2 LostCoast, Hl2 episode 1 & episode 2, TeamFortress 2
Steam account 2 Games: cs,hl2,cz

If you want proof ill up some screens both accounts are not vac banned and legit. pst in this thread with offers or pm me..

Only after these trackers : PolishTracker, IPLAY, Waffles What.cd, FTN(can offer more steams for this) & SCC

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Take a look, he is willing to offer more "steams" lol.

steam is just a way of converting money into an account that can be traded, and then resold for money.
If those "steams" aren't enough he is willing to get more (most likely buy another account)

So if I wanted to "trade" for an ftn invite I would spend $100 dollar in steams then come to the trading forum??? Selling Incognito

Seer I'd like to hear your thoughts on such trades, as you seem like a straight forward guy.

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That's pretty cleaver for a "naive" kid...:huh: Perhaps I underestimated you. I certainly would not have known how to get money out of a "steam" account.

I, too, would like to hear sear's comments on this new piece of info.

Or 44% want you to get out, 21% want you to stay with severe reservations, and 36% want you to stay.

Don't try to skew the results :dabs:

The question poses a hidden bias as there are two questions for me to stay, where as there is only one to be kicked. Therefore it spreads out the votes of people who want me to stay, giving me a disadvantage in a sense.

Although I would have to say that people who voted for me to stay, would also vote for me to stay with disabled privileges.

And don't forget the part where some people that voted for you to stay have gone on record saying that they wished they had voted no originally.

You could also say that those who voted that you could stay with disabled privs would have voted that you get out if disabled privs wasn't an option.

To MBM: I think he's referring to the fact that steam accounts have an inherent monetary value, and can be "resold" for value. Then again, with that logic trading is "selling" as well because, as you said, you can donate to receive invites, then "sell" them back and regain the monetary value. You could go even further and claim that all trades are "selling" items as inherently all trades attach monetary values to items in order to ensure that all the users benefit from said trade.

Most likely however those are phished accounts that will probably get retrieved or disabled soon after the trade. Their "value" is next to nothing and I really wouldn't consider them to be of any "worth". Up to semantics I guess.

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Originally Posted by Tv Controls you

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Originally Posted by Slickerey

The banned option wins by nine posts. :pinch:

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60% want me to stay

40% want me out

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If you had looked closer, then you would know that only 36% want you, 20% want you with disabled privileges, and 43% want you out.

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Originally Posted by Rart

You could also say that those who voted that you could stay with disabled privs would have voted that you get out if disabled privs wasn't an option.

To MBM: I think he's referring to the fact that steam accounts have an inherent monetary value, and can be "resold" for value. Then again, with that logic trading is "selling" as well because, as you said, you can donate to receive invites, then "sell" them back and regain the monetary value. You could go even further and claim that all trades are "selling" items as inherently all trades attach monetary values to items in order to ensure that all the users benefit from said trade.

Most likely however those are phished accounts that will probably get retrieved or disabled soon after the trade. Their "value" is next to nothing and I really wouldn't consider them to be of any "worth". Up to semantics I guess.

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I'm saying if vote to stay wasn't an option, the logical thing to pick would be vote to stay with disabled privs.

Also steam accounts do have money worth, just search ebay for them. Some go for around 60-80 dollars. And I think the assumption that they will get disabled soon, is negligent to the whole point.

Steam trades is just a way to convert your money.

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Originally Posted by Slickerey

If you had looked closer, then you would know that only 36% want you, 20% want you with disabled privileges, and 43% want you out.

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yes thats 56% that want me to stay
and 44% that want me gone.

sorry my math was not exact.

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Originally Posted by Tv Controls you

I'm saying if vote to stay wasn't an option, the logical thing to pick would be vote to stay with disabled privs.

Also steam accounts do have money worth, just search ebay for them. Some go for around 60-80 dollars. And I think the assumption that they will get disabled soon, is negligent to the whole point.

Steam trades is just a way to convert your money.

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Originally Posted by Slickerey

If you had looked closer, then you would know that only 36% want you, 20% want you with disabled privileges, and 43% want you out.

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yes thats 56% that want me to stay
and 44% that want me gone.

sorry my math was not exact.

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And notice that none of those auctions have bids on them. A quick couple of searches in google can do wonders, steam accounts are worth dirt as they are filled with phished, VAC disabled, disabled, or retrieved accounts. And that isn't negligent to the point, they aren't worth anything because of that, and as such don't have a monetary value.

And for just as many people that would turn from "stay" to "disabled privs", just as many people would turn from "disabled privs" to "get out". Either way, you can't spin the data like that.

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Originally Posted by Rart

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Originally Posted by Tv Controls you

I'm saying if vote to stay wasn't an option, the logical thing to pick would be vote to stay with disabled privs.

Also steam accounts do have money worth, just search ebay for them. Some go for around 60-80 dollars. And I think the assumption that they will get disabled soon, is negligent to the whole point.

Steam trades is just a way to convert your money.



yes thats 56% that want me to stay
and 44% that want me gone.

sorry my math was not exact.

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And notice that none of those auctions have bids on them. A quick couple of searches in google can do wonders, steam accounts are worth dirt as they are filled with phished, VAC disabled, disabled, or retrieved accounts. And that isn't negligent to the point, they aren't worth anything because of that, and as such don't have a monetary value.

And for just as many people that would turn from "stay" to "disabled privs", just as many people would turn from "disabled privs" to "get out". Either way, you can't spin the data like that.

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W.e about the vote, lets discuss this selling issue. Its not my position to say how the administration judges the poll.

Quick scan on ebay, found these. Take note on last one!!! Only one game for $25!!!!!!

Its definitely a way to launder money.
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8135/steam1g.png
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6741/steam2n.png
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8450/steam3.png

people selling invites using steam as a proxy to launder the profits should be banned /discussion