Trading of Private BitTorrent Accounts

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Originally Posted by ghurka

Think about this situation - if I give an invite to a decent tracker to someone who then trades that account on, who then trades it on again etc etc somewhere down the line we may end up with someone who cheats or gets caught trading the account. Who do the site trace it back to....me. So I get either disabled or my invites taken away and the person I gave the invite to gets away with it.

If you've acquired an account by open sign-up and want to trade it on that's up to you. But if you got that account through an invite I don't feel it's yours to trade on. Respect the person who invited you!

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Good choice of words.

I think that trading actual accounts is wrong.

However invites is acceptable.

The whole purpose of the invites on sites is so you can get "friends" on the site. Not so you can get/barter for something else.
I think the whole idea behind trading accounts is wrong.
If more people would acctually at least trade their accounts with good users then you guys really wouldnt have to worry about getting scammed/banned for inviting ratio cheaters ect...
Cause if you acctually knew the people you were inviting you would know they werent cheaters and scammers to begin with.

]Never pay for File Sharing![/quote]
What is going on here is actually Barter, that's a form of payment, that is against FST.com policy, that is what is going on here. The perpetrators should be banned the moment they offer an account and their ip noted and sent immediately to the private tracker's admin, they are compromising, so they can seal the security leak and deal with the fraud, buffered account or not.[/QUOTE]

You and I both know that in order to report this to EVERY tracker that gets accounts TRADED. It would be a full time job. I highly doubt even if FST admins had the slightest intention on catching/reporting these people it would even do anything. The accounts are pretty much gonna be traded no matter what countermeasures would be created to prevent this from happening.

EX: The would just take it elsewhere and do the trades.

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Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

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Originally Posted by ghurka

Think about this situation - if I give an invite to a decent tracker to someone who then trades that account on, who then trades it on again etc etc somewhere down the line we may end up with someone who cheats or gets caught trading the account. Who do the site trace it back to....me. So I get either disabled or my invites taken away and the person I gave the invite to gets away with it.

If you've acquired an account by open sign-up and want to trade it on that's up to you. But if you got that account through an invite I don't feel it's yours to trade on. Respect the person who invited you!

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Good choice of words.

I think that trading actual accounts is wrong.

However invites is acceptable.

The whole purpose of the invites on sites is so you can get "friends" on the site. Not so you can get/barter for something else.
I think the whole idea behind trading accounts is wrong.
**If more people would acctually at least trade their accounts with good users then you guys really wouldnt have to worry about getting scammed/banned for inviting ratio cheaters ect...
Cause if you acctually knew the people you were inviting you would know they werent cheaters and scammers to begin with.

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** The problem here is, once you start, sooner or later you will become just another trader, with slightly different rules of engagement.



Good choice of words, 'Nuff said.

It depends what you would class as a "friend"

I agree, and Imagine_If is definitely not that, any more.

Imagine_If is your /our friend thewizeard, and was only Imagining_if things improved at Oink which it definitely has..or will soon.

Also it has come to my attention, one, well know, Oink mod, is sharing pr0n.

I am on a crusade. I hope to see all the banned members, during the last month, reinstated; with an ape-ology.:dry:

so trading accounts is barter, according to you, but trading invites is not barter how? and if it is also barter, then why bother having an invite section at all?
This whole idea is very hipocritical, I think you all should re-think it from the ground up.
Trading is trading is trading. Doesn't matter if its buffered/clean accounts or invites. Its all trading one thing for a similar thing, thats barter, which you say is not good for the community. So, by that logic you want to stop all trading, not going to happen bud, not on a TRADING forum!
'nuff said
edit: in no way do I condone trading accounts, I am just stating that it is the same as invite trading, its bartering both ways. So please do not take this as me defending account trading.

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Originally Posted by trad3r

so trading accounts is barter, according to you, but trading invites is not barter how? and if it is also barter, then why bother having an invite section at all?
This whole idea is very hipocritical, I think you all should re-think it from the ground up.
Trading is trading is trading. Doesn't matter if its buffered/clean accounts or invites. Its all trading one thing for a similar thing, thats barter, which you say is not good for the community. So, by that logic you want to stop all trading, not going to happen bud, not on a TRADING forum!
'nuff said
edit: in no way do I condone trading accounts, I am just stating that it is the same as invite trading, its bartering both ways. So please do not take this as me defending account trading.

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This is in fact one of the most sensible replies in this thread, except for mine naturally :) Going to have to read this more carefully, and I would like to reply on this too.

i think that trading both invites and accounts is accesptable as long as you truad with people that you know aren't cheaters. Selling buffered account, on the other hand, is not okay because it encourages leechers to join the site, they contribute nothing to the site, they don't seed, aren't part of the community, just leech until the buffer is up and then buy another account

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Originally Posted by Solo

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Originally Posted by trad3r

so trading accounts is barter, according to you, but trading invites is not barter how? and if it is also barter, then why bother having an invite section at all?
This whole1. idea is very hipocritical, I think 2.you all should re-think it from the ground up.
3.Trading is trading is trading. Doesn't matter if its buffered/clean accounts or invites. Its all trading one thing for a similar thing, thats barter, which you say is not good for the community. So, by that logic 4.you want to stop all trading, not going to happen bud, not on a TRADING forum!
'nuff said
edit:5a. in no way do I condone trading accounts, I am just stating that it is the same as invite trading, its bartering both ways. 5b.So please do not take this as me defending account trading.

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6.This is in fact one of the most sensible replies in this thread, except for mine naturally :) Going to have to read this more carefully, and I would like to reply on this too.

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All that above 1. I decided you might be right or in any case, have a very good point!

1. To be honest this was an attempt to bring the BitTorrent thinkers, attention, to this problem of trading of accounts.Seems to have had mixed results.
2.Me? Policy here is FST, not mine.I was only highlighting it and the ramifications it has for P2P filesharing.
3. I agree!
4. No only accounts.
5a. I didn't even dream of that, untill you mentioned it, that is! b I didn't.
6. I wish I could say the same for your last post, Solo. :(
7. My conclusion, we all meet for a chat in the Lounge where we have some kewl nakid wimin pics, or if it's serious the Drawing Room, if we ask j2k4 he might arrange some beer or wine ( probably wine) :)

haha
so trackers can "host" the option 4 millions of ppl to download
illegal content but if we trade invites were bad ppl?
H A