Your Top worst 3 trackers!

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Originally Posted by megabyteme

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Originally Posted by kurdt

there are trackers begging for users every day. check out some of the open signup notifications that keep getting reposted by the sites's owners. Now, how many people are begging you everyday to let them make a website for you and maintain it for free? None. Why is that? Could it be that trackers receive something in return from their membership even if they are "free" to join?

Trackers compete for memberhip. And reviewing and rating trackers publicly only produces better trackers. Trackers are NOT doing you a favor by letting you join. It is in their interest. Without membership, they would not survive.

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Most trackers are paid for out-of-pocket by their owners. Some receive donations to help/pay for that, while a (very) few profit.

The sites that are "begging for members" in the open-sign up section are trying to attract community to the site they have worked hard to create. It's like making a large meal and then "begging" for people to come eat your food for free. :mad3:

Devaluing and berating trackers does not "help" them any more than your teachers in high school telling you that you were the dumbest/worst in class. :slap:

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let's please not turn this into a personal thing with the "you" emphasized. i enjoy an intellectual debate if you don't then just let me know, no hard feelings.

nobody is begging you to eat their free food because that is a one sided gift. however, trackers need members to survive. the trackers that survive are the ones that a self sustaining through member donations, which result from tracker popularity, which result from members building buzz, which result from members joining the site, being active..etc etc. Therefore tracker membership is not a one sided gift and it is not "free food."

even taking member donations out of the equation, trackers benefit from members being on the site. first thing a member has to provide is their e-mail, which information has value in and of itself. being on the site, the member views any advertisements the site chooses to show, and also the site's logo which builds good will and builds up the value of the site's brand. when you download files, by virtue of the nature of the bit-torrent protocol, you are also uploading and therefore donating bandwidth to the tracker. Further, by forcing you to seed you are further donating resources.

also, i am in no way saying I don't appreciate what trackers and especially staff do, or that they deserve to be devalued without a reasonable basis. However, i think the users deserve a free exchange of information regarding the positives as well as the negatives of trackers. trackers compete for your membership. being able to make informed decisions is good fore everyone. It means trackers will strive to be better, by for example not being rude to people, and members won't join sites they won't want to use. win win.

hmm..good question.

I will start with SCC (they banned me first just because I was born romanian)

Since SCT is no longer alive, second will be GFT for similar reason.

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kurdt,

The you part was to indicate finger pointing in a similar manner that is done in these "good through negativity" threads.

Nobody "benefits" from being told they are the worst. Ever.

The only things that are accomplished in these threads are 1) the venting of butt hurt whiners 2) the re-affirmation of negative views of trackers against FST for allowing these, and 3) If tracker owners/staff do happen to read one, it only emphasizes the negative and shows that their work is unappreciated by members who post here.

These are never constructive, fair critiques conducted by individuals who are trying to make sites better. They are masturbatory release threads for the scorned.

Worthless. Actually, worst threads EVER. Now go get inspired to make a better one. :dry:

1.gft
2.bmtv
3.still thinkin'

1&2 because they couldn't find a better option to ban the bad apples, also 1 is just a ghey tracker, at least when I last checked it.

Well i like every tracker that i am there. I respect all tracker or staff of the tracker

1. Oink - Cause they got shut down
2. SCT - Cause they shut down
3. Waiting on the next shut down :\

And off topic, megabyteme, are you one of those people who always want to give everyone a 1st place ribbon for competing? Just curious with that comment about being worst never improving anyone/anything...

never heard of ftc mayb coz im not danish hehe

i like ipt n tl must say very nice ppl very fast!!

i heard bitme banned rutor & deluge wot that about?

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Originally Posted by Tokeman

1. Oink - Cause they got shut down

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They were raided...... and the owner arrested.....

They moved 2 terrabytes of data a day of music, and was truly one of the best music sites ever.

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Originally Posted by Tokeman

And off topic, megabyteme, are you one of those people who always want to give everyone a 1st place ribbon for competing? Just curious with that comment about being worst never improving anyone/anything...

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:) Fair question, Tokeman. No, I just don't find these threads at all constructive. If this were a topic of "name things you would like to see added/improved on trackers", I might find it more interesting.

My educational background is in Management and Communications. Neither would find this type of criticism acceptable or beneficial.

Would you like your boss to give you an annual/quarterly review and tell you, "You are in our top 3 WORST employees" list? And this has discussed at a meeting where you most likely would not have been present to defend yourself? And, you are likely volunteering your time daily.

How about anywhere else. Would you like your teachers telling you that you are the worst in class? At a restaurant where you like to eat- you are their "worst" customer? Your group of friends say you are their "worst" friend?

Would ANY of this be constructive in the "real" world? Why would anyone think it would be "constructive" when "discussing" a tracker that we are guests at?

Try this yourself- Begin working on your own tracker. Gather everyone who you think would be willing to volunteer daily. Build the site and try to attract members to that site. Keep it hosted and secure. Form acceptable rules and try to keep your members following those rules everyday. Listen to the troubles and difficulties that your members say directly to you. Maintain order. And after you have done all of this, come here and read that people think you are the "worst".

See if you find that info "valuable". :ermm:

@megabyteme: I don't agree with you of your point of view.

It would make more sense if you compare Private Trackers like a company. Imagine if a company treats their costumer like "beeeeeeeep" then costumer would take another company which gives a better service.

Some staff from some private trackers are acting like that they own the whole world. Maybe they should take a lesson of how to treat users nice. Of course, some few users may be difficult to handle. Most of the users are sometimes asking annoying questions or bringing up annoying subjects which make the staff so arrogant and pissed. Some other users are foreign, so the staff also needs to be a little patient and to handle the communication with some professionalism.

Keep in mind that not only staffs are putting a lot of hard work in order to make a tracker to work; also some of the users are putting enormous hard work for this.

I basically do not understand the logic from WhatCd. They spend a lot of their time to make new things on their homepage ( i.e. new ratio system ), but all this is very pointless if the tracker doesn't work in proper. Why not putting all their attention to the most important core of the private tracker and fix the tracker? Lots of users have reported the problem about the tracker issue on “what” forum and the staff closes the topic and is telling us that they’re aware of this problem. Users are spending lots of times to seed, to make torrents, to upload torrents etc, but they do not get credited for their upload. It’s not a fair way to treat their own users. I do not use “what” anymore since the tracker is bugging me too much. Users basically get punished for “what’s” errors. Sometimes, the tracker goes offline, sometimes the tracker doesn’t register the upload and sometimes the tracker is down.
Don’t get me wrong about “what”. They have lots of nice torrents. I like the structure of the homepage. Most of their staffs are nice.

@Kurdt: Well spoken.