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But these things will only make him feel ok till they ware off then everythings gonna be shit again :( I dunno what the answer is bro I suppose just believe in yourself, today your sitting by your pc wondering what lifes all about 2morrow u might stumble over the cure for cancer :o Rest in the mind bro that were all feeling the same some days but tommorrows just another day. :D
Success is a journey not a destination.
First you say life isn't worth living so people should do drugs to help them through, then you say people should try drugs because they will change their outlook on life.Quote:
Originally posted by Arm@31 July 2004 - 23:40
Although life does suck and not worth living, drugs exist to help you get through life easier. All kinds exist for every problem from minor pain relief to disassociatives that will make you lose all contact with your body and meet aliens and maybe even god in the little drug-induced world inside your head. :blink:
Try getting some shrooms or LSD and swallow. You could have long-lasting spiritial enlightenment that will totally change your outlook on life. :unsure:
What was your outlook on life before drugs changed it? Logic dictates it must have been that life was, in fact, worth living.
There is a clear message here:
Drugs > You
Thanks for the "solutions" :huh:
I think Biggles is right(he's the one of a few people who possesses the right view in this forum :blink: )
"in order to overcome it you must surrender to it"
drugs is just a form of resisting life negatively, just like I said, it has positive and negative effect, finally the effect is negative. Life is like drug, it has positive and negative meaning, the final meaning is negative coz people die and get nothing finally. in this context, postive meaning of life is good just when it is in contrast to negative meaning, without negative meaning, it worthes nothing. to make it worse, a high level of enjoyment is better in contrast to the lower level of enjoyment. it makes people alway wanting the highest level of enjoyment. that's why people can be addicted to drugs. the enjoyment of life is just as illusive as the excitement by taking drugs. the harder you try to resist life, the more annoyance it gives you. suicide is a worse form of resisting life negatively.
Many people can realize the harm of drugs, but only a few people can realize the harm of life. by not taking drugs, one will get healthy, by not attending two-sided activities, one will get enlightened. here now I understand the wisdom of monks.
By drugs I refer to medicine and recreational drugs first off. :01: And I also mean that people who have used psychedelics have had long-lasting spiritual enlightnment, depending on the substance, their environment and their set of mind. It is possiblebut doesnt happen to everyone. :unsure:Quote:
Originally posted by manker@31 July 2004 - 18:27
First you say life isn't worth living so people should do drugs to help them through, then you say people should try drugs because they will change their outlook on life.
What was your outlook on life before drugs changed it? Logic dictates it must have been that life was, in fact, worth living.
There is a clear message here:
Drugs > You
And my outlook on life was extremly negative before and after I experimented with drugs. Though I only lightly experimented with DXM (thats the active ingredient in cough syrup children. ;)). Not much drug experience there.
eliteks post also made no sense to me. Trying to explain drugs and life in a really confusing as hell way.
And this part I dont get either:
And heres a clear message here:Quote:
There is a clear message here:
Drugs > You
:01: > :blink:
By drugs I refer to medicine and recreational drugs first off. :01: And I also mean that people who have used psychedelics have had long-lasting spiritual enlightnment, depending on the substance, their environment and their set of mind. It is possiblebut doesnt happen to everyone. :unsure:Quote:
Originally posted by Arm+1 August 2004 - 00:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Arm @ 1 August 2004 - 00:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-manker@31 July 2004 - 18:27
First you say life isn't worth living so people should do drugs to help them through, then you say people should try drugs because they will change their outlook on life.
What was your outlook on life before drugs changed it? Logic dictates it must have been that life was, in fact, worth living.
There is a clear message here:
Drugs > You
And my outlook on life was extremly negative before and after I experimented with drugs. Though I only lightly experimented with DXM (thats the active ingredient in cough syrup children. ;)). Not much drug experience there.
And this part I dont get:
And heres a clear message here:Quote:
There is a clear message here:
Drugs > You
:01: > :blink: [/b][/quote]
At best your post was poorly written, at worst it's contradictory.
You make a point of saying you take drugs, I took that to be the cause of your poor post - hence the Drugs > You message - of course you may just be a dumbass :D
I'm not anti-drugs at all, in fact I think in moderation most drugs do more good than bad. but. in a thread about a suicidal kid you post about trying psychedelics because they will change your outlook on life - that's bad advice.
Life is full of suffering but we bring the suffering to ourselves by falling into the attachment trap. I find it very hard to let things go although deep down I know that I would endure less suffering if I did so. I have endeavoured to rid myself of as many material binds as I can at the moment and the more I release the better I feel, but the hardest are the last to go.
I think that I know my purpose in life, its not very grand and it wont change the world, but if I can change little peices of other peoples worlds I think I'm on the right path. I don't expect anything from life. If I can make someone smile everyday - brilliant, if I can make someone laugh - even better.
I don't believe in a singular truth I think that there are many truths and many ways of seeing and interpreting those truths.
@ Biggles - yes, bound by physical existence, thats what makes enlightenment so difficult to attain and why many people can only reach it through meditation. The only meaning that I can see to life is experience. Which brings me full cirle back to suffering, because only when we can understand suffering and its causes can we break through the false illusions.
Someone whos bored with life doesnt sound suicidal to me. It sounds like someone who needs something new and intresting in life. :)
And also I am not on drugs. :rolleyes: If I was on DXM my grammer would be horrable. :01: And if I was on drugs ide have better things to do then arguing with someone on the internet.
And having a depressed person use psychedelics is definetly a bad thing. It can cause bad things that are unhappy and stuff. :01:
Your all thinking about this ffaarrrr 2 much, just get up in the morning and take what lifes got in store good and bad. :D
Hope for the best,expect the worst and take what comes.
And what if your life has nothing in it? I wake up, use my computer and rarely leave the house. OOh what an exciting life that is.Quote:
Originally posted by keyser_soze@31 July 2004 - 19:21
Your all thinking about this ffaarrrr 2 much, just get up in the morning and take what lifes got in store good and bad. :D
Hope for the best,expect the worst and take what comes.
the answers staring u in the face m8, get something to do that does'nt bore u. :)Quote:
And what if your life has nothing in it? I wake up, use my computer and rarely leave the house. OOh what an exciting life that is.