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would it be as much fun if it were legalized? i don't know. But, like 99% of the artists i listen too now, i wouldnt even buy their cd anways. they should just be happy i am listening. and the ones know and are my favorite, i buy their cd, band shirts, hoodies, etc anyways
Legalized it should be!!!!!
Nice idea for a research report, Im going to use it myself and for once Ill have a rather persuasive argument to write about.............forget music its the psx games and official movies that they need to legalize........
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I think that as with a lot of things illegal, it might not be so appealing to so many people if it were legal - it would take some of the excitement from it. A lot of what people download they never use or only use it long enough to try it out briefly. Then there's all the stuff people download that they can't afford to buy or wouldn't be willing to spend the money for, so the companies aren't really losing money there either. I download a lot of audiobooks, but I wouldn't buy them because at $30 - $60 a pop, and more, I can't afford them. A lot of the music I download are CDs/tapes I owned years ago, some of them I purchased several times over the years, so I refuse to go out and buy them again - I'm probably gonna listen to them 3 or 4 times and delete them till the next nostalgia wave hits me. As for new music... well, if I download it and really think it's a great CD - not just some one-hit wonder - then there's a good chance I'll go out and buy it. If it's an artist I've been a long-term fan of, I'll definitely buy it.
Yes, OFC.
you did not mention what do you mean by legalise ?
i think a very good ideea would be to create a service that works like kazaa / torrent / dc (not really important) and where you have to pay a small fee (i mean SMALL = 1-2$ / mo) to have access. the rest of the money can be earned by including advertising in the products (by advertising i don't mean what Daemon tools did with the last version ... a small banner is more than enough). A very good example of advertising is Crystal player. They have a roll bar that is updated when they enable another free period.
i dont remember where i heard this, but artists make about half of thier money from concert ticket sales. think about it, the amount of people at concerts and performing every day or two? thats alot.
i think dling music actually increases the profit of artists because:
1. if you have no intention of buying a cd, you lose no money - $0
2. downloading music helps you discover new bands, and in turn, you go to their concert and they make more money than if they were never discovered by downloaders. i know i would never have gone to plenty of concerts ive been to if it wasnt for file sharing. and thats $ money $ for them.
wot is a illegal??? by wot i mean is... in a way we all r doin a copyright infringement.... so in a way were all as bad as each ova.. soz jus my opinion.... i wud rather file share wiv sum1 n get a fantastic copy say superman (new movie) than av bought it frm sum bloke in a pub n get a crap copy..... :whistling
i dont mind for a babe like you
Yes. File sharing should be legal. In fact, the record companies should embrace it instead of trying to destroy it, because it'll only end up worse. Blanket lawsuits scared people, effectively stopping them...temporarily. They stopped using an inferior file sharing program that downloaded song by song with crappy quality, viruses, and adware. They moved on to something more efficient, something safer. So now the average Joe probably isn't on Kazaa, he's on some other file sharing program with encryption that allows full album and movie downloads with perfect quality and greater speed.
How will they make money? If the artist creates good music, the fans will support him or her. They won't go hungry, that's for sure. It's not like profits will disappear(except maybe for those that intend to excessively profit off the artists such as corrupt labels, etc.)
Without large monetary incentive there's no reason for artists to make music? That's contrary to everything I've ever known about art. Music will continue being made, and the artists won't be sent to the poorhouse.
But then again, what the heck. They can continue running the music industry the way it is and point their fingers at us and cry and sue dead people, and we'll just get better at it. Eventually the industry will have to change. Something will.
i love downloading music...but it shouldnt be legal...why should it be legal?
artists need to make money for their talent its just not gunna come from me...
basically if you legalize illegal downloading of music wouldn't you have to get rid of copyright laws all together, and as good as it sounds that would have bad implications in many different areas. There are no really good arguments for doing this but many people will support the idea for the selfish reason that they want free stuff, not thinking about how it would really effect the bigger picture. Without copyright laws who would publish books or release movies, if they have no way of recouping the costs.
What it is not legal
Nothing in excess.
I dont feel sorry for the record companys, if they made the price more realistic they would solve most of the illegal stuff.
Isn't life a bitch, off you pop to the shops, get yourself the latest game for your system (console or PC) get it home, put it into the machine, play it only to find out it's total and utter POOH! You looked at the reviews, saw the demos and it seemed like it was going to be good, but no it was POOH! Thank god for file sharing. Download it try it if you like it go buy it. Provides money for the good developers weans out the dross developers. The same thing often goes for other types of files too, music, movies applications et al. So YES legalise P to P and weed out the lamers who are getting rich on selling dross.
As a lawyer friend said, it shouldn't be legalized, but decriminalized. Don't know too much about the difference, but he's a smart guy!
you should believe in what you did
I believe
What right does anyone have to deny another from making a new instance of something with with his/her own resources?
If my neighbour builds a swing on his backyard, should he have the right to deny me from building an identical copy of it on my backyard? I think not.
There is no justification for copyright, it needs to be removed.
It should stay illegal.
I think it should stay illegal so the RIAA and MPAA can point the finger at us and say "theres the bad guy"
I got the idea from Scarface :p
it is NOT illegal, you formulated your question awfully
He said illegal filesharing, meaning copyrighted files which is illegal to share and download.Quote:
Originally Posted by jokzor
There's no need to be a dick when you post, btw.
i think they sould make it legal BUT the should be fair on the dime...
we want to help the artist but not to get robbed in bright daylight...
i'm also writing a paper on this topic......
it's illegal b/c people are freely trading copyrighted material...
The RIAA claims that when you buy a cd you have the right to listen to it, that is all...they claim that you dont even have a right to make a backup copy for yourself; without the express written permission of the copyright holder. I believe it's absolute BULL....
but think of it as anything else, if you were a teacher and bought a text book, you couldnt copy it for everyone in the class and then pass it out to all the students, then the publishers wouldnt make any money..
In a sense its the same thing, but how are they going to stop the downloaders....sure the RIAA shut down Napster, Grokster, among others... but there are hundreds of other places to get the music, and it's impossible to stop the millions of people to do it....like terrorism, you can go after the big terrorists but more and more will be developed and its impossible to stop them all...
RIAA just tries to make money, they twisted the meaning of copyright, protection of authors rights. Artist doesnt need that much protection, he could write good music without millions on a bank account. Making music isnt making movies, you dont need a datacenter to record an album. Hell, Nirvana recorded its first album for $600.
its file sharing talk
Well if music was a small enough cost then everyone would purchase .... could it be that the Music Industry has had a Good Thing for Too Long !!! They (the Music Industry) winge that profits are going down - could that also indicate the "quality" of the performers and tracks also going down ??? ... from speaking to a mate if they charged 1p to listen to a song via the internet then people may be happy with that sort of cost model ....
I don't think it should be legalised but i think people like students and those who can't afford it shouldn't be penalised because i'm sure the artists would prefer us to enjoy it free cos we can't afford to buy the full version; i will happily buy all my music back that i have downloaded when i have a full time secure job
it has to be legal
Wonder how far back the person had to go to find this post......
It was started 11-17-05, 07:09 AM
So i think its settled, i dont thing the person that started the thread need more inputs for his paper. (unless he failed 2 years in a row)
i think there should be a way we can volenteer to pay $0.01-.02 for royalties to protect from legal action
How bout this
Only the original creator owner of such file is allowed to prosecute or punish a proven guilty offender of copyright laws.
IE
A 13 year old girl is "caught downloading a song". The only entitiy that could press charges is the person that actually wrote the song. Meaning an artist would have to look at a person who has expressed interest in his/her music judge them accordingly. hmmm.... how many ARTISTS would actually prosecute every offender?? Wouldn't they be satisfied that there music is reaching a whole new group of people?? Or would they chose to give a hefty fine to someone is who is now a fan of their music?
My point, we need to bring hell down on the music industry and put it back in the artist's hands. (figurativley speaking);)
Very GOOD!Quote:
Originally Posted by bklan989
Isnt piracy techically petty theft(punishable by $500 max fine) ???
it should stay illegal...
1. deters some people and thus the artists make money
2. wouldn't be as much fun.
Yes it should be legal. The amount of money that the artists make is beyond normal thinking.
Why need to legalized something that's already legal?
You are merely sharing music with "friends". You are not selling the music for money or profit.
The issue now is the loss of profit from the recording company.
only for poersonal use
As I mentioned earlier, regarding this convenient list of pirates; who are actually not doing anything illegal at all. They are just sharing data; with friends.
Perhaps you could give us some feedback and lets us see your research paper... :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by LilAznAccommodator