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Some people have upload speeds substantially lower than their download speeds. Making it difficult to keep a decent ratio. That is not a factor with usenet as uploads are irrelevant.
Also BT is the next big target for the authorities. The people here "trading" invites are doing a good job of helping them.
I've been thinking about making the switch because RR provides'em...but I just hardly ever d/l anything... :-\ Seemed too difficult last time I tried.
i use both newsgroups and torrents
torrents as the best torrent sites get the tv+divx etc more or less within mins of it being released
i dont browse ng but use index sites and most of them are fast but not as fast as the private torrent sites
also i more or less get max speed suing torrents from scenetorrents and ftn etc so speed is the same but in general u get max spoeed 24/7
only problem with usenet for me with giganews is if my connection cuts out in the house and then i cant reconnect to newsgroups as has login issues for say an hour then its fine
so it can cause problems
also $25-30 for unlimited doewnloads from giganews is HARDLY paying for filesharing where one 360 game covers the expenses more or less
overall i would say:
speed same
requests ng
releases pretimes torrents
quantity: torrents
cheapness torrents
i use both ng+torrents as to dat e i havnet found an index site of ngs that is fast enough as say SCT+FTN
also foir say tv shows etc sct and ftn more or less have the full series for avaiability including bitmetv which does
with newsgroups you will only fing the last 120 days although they can be requested etc
if anyone knows any fast indexing ng site then pm me if you can
I couldnt do without both. If all you want is scene stuff, then private torrents gets stuff faster, and on a good site, you get fast speeds (max speed depending if your connection isnt super super fast). I need NG for older stuff no longer seeded, and tv series not found on torrents. Also for the Full Hd caps. Couldnt imagine download a 20gb movie from torrents, then having to seed it lol. $15 a month is a small price to pay for leech access to scene stuff and non scene stuff.
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Keep in mind that when you're paying for newsgroup access you're paying your host for the bandwidth, and that's it. This doesn't mean that torrents are better, it means the download speed is slower overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by WannaPlay
When everyone in the world has fiber connections then I can see torrents being equal to newsgroups as there will be unlimited amounts of bandwidth.
Another thing to keep in mind... I pay $13 dollars a month for my newsgroup access and this eliminates the need for me to leave my computer on to seed 24/7 or until certain torrents reached an acceptable ratio. For you who need to leave your PCs on to seed torrents, think for a minute what that is in electrical cost per month? I haven't done the math but it would seem to me that using newsgroups and having the ability to shut your PC down every night will save you MORE money in the long run...
I will admit though, using both tools is the ultimate in file sharing. Newsgroups for scene release and torrents for the really old, odd shit that I can't find on a newsgroup, which is quite rare.
bitorrent is cheaper but if i am considering newsgroups cause $10 month aint too bad and these slow ass speeds on torrents r getting on my nerves
I prefer newsgroups, as the download speed for me is much faster. However, my ISP only has an 8 day retention on binaries, whereas I can find practically anything anytime via torrent. For me though, from a security standpoint, newsgroups are the way to go.
Bittorent actually works quite well... Depending on what you download and where you download from. If you use solely private trackers, you should get blazing fast speeds. Thats what I prefer.
All the old timers use usenet while all the young fresh kids use bittorrent, especially with the big deal about private bittorrent trackers and their exclusiveness.
That's my very short, crude, and stereotypical thought process on the topic. :D
Hit me up on MSN. I'll have you rolling within 5 minutes. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hairbautt
Also, I think newsgroups arent used as much nowadays is because most people dont really know how to use them... Too much work for to do the same thin in bittorent with the click of a button.
newsgroups are good if you like select content, but expect to PAY for what you GET: You don't have to worry about that with bit torrents. :) Personally, I like both.
I don't pay a nickel for newsgroups. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by thegman24
yea, cos some newsgroups are actually free from the ISP that provides your service. So check with them first, and if a no go, then u gotta pay....
I've got a question, as coming to these forums were the first time I've heard of newsgroups for music. Is high quality easy to find, or is the amount of stuff like a mixed bag...I'm not sure if this is a relevant question or not, but is most of the available music 'quality'? Cause what sparked my interest is d'ling at full speed, since private trackers, though they have a lot of the music I look for..it can get slow if they're not popular.
You can find quality of all kinds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pzero
You'll find a lot of flac as well, as users are not worried about having to seed back a large file.
It's really simple. Let me explain:
Newsgroups > Bittorrent
True story.
Fact.
Who gives a feck. I use both. I do prefer newsgroups.
(For obvious reasons)
We did have nominal success in your other thread. I believe we successfully converted at least one bittorrent user. :01:Quote:
Originally Posted by brotherdoobie
I agree. use both if u can. But if u cant, then go Bittorrent all the way.
but as i think someone stated bittorrent forces users to upload, if that user is downloading copyright material then they are more likely to get prosecuted, where as if i am correct there is near enough no way of getting to usenet users?
am i right?
It's not that there's no way of getting to them but it's not easy.
Your newsgroup provider can see exactly what you're downloading since they're providing the service and your ISP can read your packets and check which posts you're downloading against the post ID from the server you're using.
Your newsgroup provider could get a subpoena to provide logs showing which IPs have downloaded certain posts and they could comply with that meaning you are at risk of being caught.
Your ISP could also get a subpoena to provide details of your port 119 packets and they could comply meaning you're at risk of being caught. If your ISP keeps logs of packet content they might contain enough detail for the authorities to tell which posts have been downloaded.
Scenario 2 is only going to happen if you come to the attention of the authorities. That is to say they would need to be investigating you already.
I wouldn't worry for a long while yet though since you're only downloading and anti piracy organisation aren't interested in you. They're after people uploading or sharing.
At the moment they are, anyway.
has it ever happened in the past that a newsgroup provider has been given a subpoena for just downloading?
Bitorrent Rocks
Nothing against Bit-torrent but it's newsgroups for me. Pay 10 bucks a month for a good news-server not much money,I can afford it. I can afford a computer and the internet after all. Not to mention everything I downloaded in a full week is WELL worth 10 bucks a month. Got full 10 meg connection speeds, 45 days binary retention, always find what i want with 67,000 different newsgroups out there, or maybe more now i dont know. Thats the great thing about it really. There's entire dedicated groups to one particular thing on usenet. You really can find anything on there. If you have a decent ISP server check it out, everyone says its hard to learn it isn't. As far as security of usenet let's just say this. There's a risk with everything. I've never heard of anyone getting caught downloading off of usenet before. I'm not gonna say it can't happen, but it's sure as hell more likely to happen to people who use bit-torrent considering your Ip is freely availible to see at the click of a button.
I set up my free newsgroup access from comcast using the mac program unison, but when i browsed all the stuff they seemed random as f*ck and terrible selection. Like really bad stuff. I would like to know what i did wrong.
Well, ISP Newsgroup service isn't very good. The retention isn't as long, and likely isn't getting all the posts to the newsgroup.
Your much better off joining a premium provider and try looking through again. Also, use NZB files to get files if you can.
So i just downloaded an NZB movie file. What do I do now? How do I put all the files together? I'm using Mac OSX
Unison should be able to handle it, but be careful, even with NZB files won't get what you want unless the service you're using still has the files. It should start downloading once you open the file in unison, but I don't use NZB files, so I'm not sure how they work.
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Lucky guess? :dabs:
-bd
we had this conversation before!!