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Well, my home is valued at $129,000 and going up every year. I have to fight the appraisals every year (have for the past 5) because they keep raising my property value: their excuse is that the market is "hot" whatever the f that means.... 2800 square feet on two lots in the central part of a city with over 200,000 population....lots of building projects going up around here so I can see them forcing the lower income out to make way for higher ones. They've torn down 4 square miles of slums to build new walmart, restaurants, 5 story hotel, townhouses, apartment homes...etc.
Even with deductions I'm paying at the end. Think it was $300 last year I owed... i haven't gotten a refund in probably 6 years!
Don't know why there isn't a state income tax... I know whatever Governor brings that to a vote will not be Governor next election so maybe that is why!!! They do have a sales tax of 8% and of course the lottery which generated over a billion dollars last year for Texas!
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coppercox
Well, my home is valued at $129,000 and going up every year. I have to fight the appraisals every year (have for the past 5) because they keep raising my property value: their excuse is that the market is "hot" whatever the f that means.... 2800 square feet on two lots in the central part of a city with over 200,000 population....lots of building projects going up around here so I can see them forcing the lower income out to make way for higher ones. They've torn down 4 square miles of slums to build new walmart, restaurants, 5 story hotel, townhouses, apartment homes...etc.
Even with deductions I'm paying at the end. Think it was $300 last year I owed... i haven't gotten a refund in probably 6 years!
Don't know why there isn't a state income tax... I know whatever Governor brings that to a vote will not be Governor next election so maybe that is why!!! They do have a sales tax of 8% and of course the lottery which generated over a billion dollars last year for Texas!
Yeah I'm trying to add another bathroom and finish my basement and of course the state won't know about it....that is not until I'm ready to move.:shifty:
At that cost for your home (I couldn't find a home for that cost 'round here), your hourly wage, and the 15% + 300 bones you pay, you are living like a king.
The way I can halfway live like a king is to bargain hunt. I don't pay full price for anything if I can help it.
Btw, the housing market is cooling off big time up here. I love where I live but I've been thinking about moving again so I cn get more land.
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You know I'm old school but always thought it was wrong to mention what one makes an hour . Asking what one does for a living can be deceiving tho .
I say I work in a warehouse people shun me , I mention that I run the union warehouse and its different . I'm on salary but its about $60.000 a year with a bi yearly bonus or $23.00 an hour . Benefits are harder to judge, my family's dental and medical are also covered and I get 4 weeks holidays. Time allowed off to spend with my sons sports is priceless tho , it can't be figured in .
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peat moss
You know I'm old school but always thought it was wrong to mention what one makes an hour . Asking what one does for a living can be deceiving tho .
I say I work in a warehouse people shun me , I mention that I run the union warehouse and its different . I'm on salary but its about $60.000 a year with a bi yearly bonus or $23.00 an hour . Benefits are harder to judge, my family's dental and medical are also covered and I get 4 weeks holidays. Time allowed off to spend with my sons sports is priceless tho , it can't be figured in .
No offense (to your first) but so what, this is the internet. I don't realllllly know you. Some people don't have a bug up their ass about working in a warehouse and only twats will shun them for it.
It seems like coppercox makes more than me. Good for him.
Rip makes less than me. So what. I'm no better than he is. I used to do the same work to a much lesser degree.
Again, if one has problems with announcing such things, don't announce it. When asked "what do you do for a living?"(old thread) many gave bogus responses or no response at all.
I don't make a ton of money and have to bargain hunt for many material items. I'd love to be rich but I'm not. So the fuck what.
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Re: How much do you get paid an hour?
How do you figure out the yearly salary from your hourly?
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rossco
How do you figure out the yearly salary from your hourly?
:huh:
hourly wage X 2080 hours
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Busyman™
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Originally Posted by
rossco
How do you figure out the yearly salary from your hourly?
:huh:
hourly wage X 2080 hours
Assuming you get paid leave and work 40 hours a week.
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If there's more than a £2000 difference in the income you quote as your own it DOES get flagged up
fact
The household income is irrelevant. It might increase your initial credit limit, but that's about it. You don't even have to give it if you don't want to.
And as JP said, if you are found to fraudulently apply for a credit card, which includes lying about your income, you get marked by the credit reference agencies and the fraud agencies.
My point stands.
Someone's income is a crucial piece of information if you were thinking about stealing someone's identity.
BTW
They blocked this website at work :cry:
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I bought a new car on a credit card a couple of weeks ago. Mrs JP's new one. I did it on a whim, because they wanted a £200 deposit and I only had £160 on me. I couldn't be arsed going to the bank down the road.
It was quite funny actually. We went into the showroom and decided we wanted the car. We also liked the lad that showed us it. However he then said that he couldn't actually sell it to us as he was a used car salesman and it had to be a new car salesman who dealt with us.
I said "Gordon, tell your boss that we want to buy this car, from you and that if he insists that someone else does it then I'll go elsewhwere"
He went away and came back a few minutes later saying "Good Morning Mr Fugley, my name is Gordon and 'll be your salesman today."
True story.
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I don't have any credit cards and probably will never have one after realising credit card companies are nothing but legalised loan sharks :lol:
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Skweeky
I don't have any credit cards and probably will never have one after realising credit card companies are nothing but legalised loan sharks :lol:
Not if you just pay it off ;)
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Yeah well, there's the thing
I'm terrible with money. I'd probably run it up to its limit and then spend the next 20 years paying it off.
Safer not to :lol:
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Skweeky
I don't have any credit cards and probably will never have one after realising credit card companies are nothing but legalised loan sharks :lol:
So no mortgage or car financing then either.
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Originally Posted by
Skweeky
If there's more than a £2000 difference in the income you quote as your own it DOES get flagged up
fact
The household income is irrelevant. It might increase your initial credit limit, but that's about it. You don't even have to give it if you don't want to.
And as JP said, if you are found to fraudulently apply for a credit card, which includes lying about your income, you get marked by the credit reference agencies and the fraud agencies.
My point stands.
Someone's income is a crucial piece of information if you were thinking about stealing someone's identity.
BTW
They blocked this website at work :cry:
Credit card companies ask for household income though but you it's irrelevant and it need not be given to them.
The fook?:blink:
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Busyman™
Credit card companies ask for household income though but you it's irrelevant and it need not be given to them.
The fook?:blink:
What the fuck does that mean.
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Nope, if you don't want to give the household income you don't have to. Just as you can decide not to include your financial partners in the application.
They'll also ask you for your employers address, bank details and more than one contact number. None of which you have to give
Buy my cars cash, don't want a mortgage as I'm not interested in owning a house. I like moving around and I doubt I'll always stay in this country, so why would I want to own a house, or have a mortgage and be at least £70K in debt?
Everything single thing I own is fully mine and I owe no institution any money whatsoever.
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Skweeky
Nope, if you don't want to give the household income you don't have to. Just as you can decide not to include your financial partners in the application.
They'll also ask you for your employers address, bank details and more than one contact number. None of which you have to give
Buy my cars cash, don't want a mortgage as I'm not interested in owning a house. I like moving around and I doubt I'll always stay in this country, so why would I want to own a house, or have a mortgage and be at least £70K in debt?
Everything single thing I own is fully mine and I owe no institution any money whatsoever.
That's right you do travel. I forgot.
So disclosing income isn't necessary for credit? How is it a security risk then? I know every union person's income level in my company (it's in a contract book) and some management.
Btw, the most guarded thing here is your SSN#. Income is squat. No SSN, no credito.
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Your personal income IS important, but the household income isn't.
It means jack all if your partner earns £50K. If you don't earn at least £10K you're not getting a credit card ( with us anyway, it does vary from company to company) unless you have assets you get an income from. Like property, or shares etc...
Don't know what an SSN nr is but I assume it's like an NI nr here. Not necessary for any type of application.
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Mr JP Fugley
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Originally Posted by
Busyman™
:huh:
hourly wage X 2080 hours
Assuming you get paid leave and work 40 hours a week.
Okay assuming that 22080 yearly:O
Could go up at some point soon too and i also might work some saturdays once in a while.
Considering I have no monthly bills to pay yet and don't own a house...:D
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rossco
Okay assuming that 22080 yearly:O
Could go up at some point soon too and i also might work some saturdays once in a while.
Considering I have no monthly bills to pay yet and don't own a house...:D
Okay sorry.
hourly wage X # hours per week work X # weeks per year work
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Originally Posted by
Skweeky
Your personal income IS important, but the household income isn't.
It means jack all if your partner earns £50K. If you don't earn at least £10K you're not getting a credit card ( with us anyway, it does vary from company to company) unless you have assets you get an income from. Like property, or shares etc...
Oh ok okay. Around here SSN is the most important. Knowing anothers income level is not. Income level is not a security key here. Household income on credit apps is very important. Child support can even be included yet it has
Don't know what an SSN nr is but I assume it's like an NI nr here. Not necessary for any type of application.
nothing to do with your work.
To steal an identity, the basic foundation of what one needs are
SSN
Full name
Address
Employer
The last three can be found almost anywhere. The first cannot. However, once it is found, it is easy as hell to steal an identity and that's why ID theft runs rampant. All one needs to do is give a new address, state the old one, and claim they've moved. All of a sudden the victim never sees a bill yet they are billed....at the new address (and the bills hit the trash).
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Mr JP Fugley
Yeah but what has busy told us about himself. What he does for a living, where he works, his colour and height, nature of his injuries, where his house is, with a description of it, how much land he has round it, how many people live in his house, the type of car he drives, what his hourly rate is.
How on Earth would anyone have any prospect of identifying him.
While this is probably a little late to the thread, busy would probably make use of the guns in each room of his house.
:shuriken:
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peat moss
You know I'm old school but always thought it was wrong to mention what one makes an hour . Asking what one does for a living can be deceiving tho .
I say I work in a warehouse people shun me , I mention that I run the union warehouse and its different . I'm on salary but its about $60.000 a year with a bi yearly bonus or $23.00 an hour . Benefits are harder to judge, my family's dental and medical are also covered and I get 4 weeks holidays. Time allowed off to spend with my sons sports is priceless tho , it can't be figured in .
Wrong is in the eye of the beholder....if your uncomfortable don't worry about anwering it...appears many people are very uncomfortable about it.... but a lot of us are not and those are the people that give the answers I was curious about.... although i did enjoy some of the off-topic discussions (except when Mr. Jp fugley and Proper bo decided to have their nonsense ramblings in this thread)...
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are you the guy that makes me unable to piss in pub toilets?
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No offense (to your first) but so what, this is the internet. I don't realllllly know you. Some people don't have a bug up their ass about working in a warehouse and only twats will shun them for it.
It seems like coppercox makes more than me. Good for him.
Rip makes less than me. So what. I'm no better than he is. I used to do the same work to a much lesser degree.
Again, if one has problems with announcing such things, don't announce it. When asked "what do you do for a living?"(old thread) many gave bogus responses or no response at all.
I don't make a ton of money and have to bargain hunt for many material items. I'd love to be rich but I'm not. So the fuck what.
Well said...I tried to say it but I'm tired so I have not much thinking cells left for the night... Hard day at work but fun! put in 10 hours and am spent...too tired to even drink a beer....
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GepperRankins
are you the guy that makes me unable to piss in pub toilets?
lol...i don't think so...why would I have anything to do with your inability to urinate?
you may be in the wrong thread: this thread asked how much you make an hour? you may want to check the thread: who is the guy that makes me unable to piss in pub toilets? Therein lies your answer....
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coppercox
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Originally Posted by
GepperRankins
are you the guy that makes me unable to piss in pub toilets?
lol...i don't think so...why would I have anything to do with your inability to urinate?
you may be in the wrong thread: this thread asked how much you make an hour? you may want to check the thread: who is the guy that makes me unable to piss in pub toilets? Therein lies your answer....
ok. i'll make the thread now.
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Originally Posted by
coppercox
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Originally Posted by
peat moss
You know I'm old school but always thought it was wrong to mention what one makes an hour . Asking what one does for a living can be deceiving tho .
I say I work in a warehouse people shun me , I mention that I run the union warehouse and its different . I'm on salary but its about $60.000 a year with a bi yearly bonus or $23.00 an hour . Benefits are harder to judge, my family's dental and medical are also covered and I get 4 weeks holidays. Time allowed off to spend with my sons sports is priceless tho , it can't be figured in .
Wrong is in the eye of the beholder....if your uncomfortable don't worry about anwering it...appears many people are very uncomfortable about it.... but a lot of us are not and those are the people that give the answers I was curious about.... although i did enjoy some of the off-topic discussions (except when Mr. Jp fugley and Proper bo decided to have their nonsense ramblings in this thread)...
I'm not uncomfortable about answering the question. It's just crass to ask.
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i don't have any kids or responsibilities yet. so in my young hippy brain i think people who really give a shit about other peoples hourly wage are not nice people :dabs:
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GepperRankins
i don't have any kids or responsibilities yet. so in my young hippy brain i think people who really give a shit about other peoples hourly wage are not nice people :dabs:
That's about the size of it. The young, like your good self don't give a shit. The old, like me, think it's dreadfully rude to ask. There are obviously those to whom it seems a reasonable question, tho' I can't even begin to imagine why they would be interested in other people's income. Unless it's to assist in the pigeon-holing process.
It may however be a cultural thing. Perhaps we are just more reserved than our colonial cousins. Tho' I suspect that j2, clocker etc may also feel it a rude question.
Maybe it's an unsubtle way of declaring your own income. i.e. Rather than say "Look at me, I'm doing fine". You ask "what do you earn, I earn ..."
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JPaul
It may however be a cultural thing. Perhaps we are just more reserved than our colonial cousins. Tho' I suspect that j2, clocker etc may also feel it a rude question.
You're right.
My initial reaction was that it's rude to ask.
Not sure whether it's age or just upbringing that forms this opinion.
After reading the thread a few other random thoughts emerged:
-I have no idea what my hourly rate might be; it's been decades since I was paid by the hour, so coppercox (a newer member with whom I've had no interaction) must be rather young to even pose the question in such a way.
-Any response would be only superficially telling without considerable additional information. A princely income in Ames, Iowa would make you a beggar in Manhattan or London so what have you learned?
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Originally Posted by
clocker
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Originally Posted by
JPaul
It may however be a cultural thing. Perhaps we are just more reserved than our colonial cousins. Tho' I suspect that j2, clocker etc may also feel it a rude question.
You're right.
My initial reaction was that it's rude to ask.
Not sure whether it's age or just upbringing that forms this opinion.
After reading the thread a few other random thoughts emerged:
-I have no idea what my hourly rate might be; it's been decades since I was paid by the hour, so coppercox (a newer member with whom I've had no interaction)
must be rather young to even pose the question in such a way.
-Any response would be only superficially telling without considerable additional information. A princely income in Ames, Iowa would make you a beggar in Manhattan or London so what have you learned?
I haven't learned anything (tho' I suspect the question wasn't aimed at me), your answer is pretty much as I would have expected. Which is a wee bit sad for both of us, but in a comfortable way.
I disagree with your age assessment tho'. I think she's about 38.
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clocker
You're right.
My initial reaction was that it's rude to ask.
Not sure whether it's age or just upbringing that forms this opinion.
After reading the thread a few other random thoughts emerged:
-I have no idea what my hourly rate might be; it's been decades since I was paid by the hour, so coppercox (a newer member with whom I've had no interaction) must be rather young to even pose the question in such a way.
-Any response would be only superficially telling without considerable additional information. A princely income in Ames, Iowa would make you a beggar in Manhattan or London so what have you learned?
Excellent, then saying what one does for a living is along the same lines.:ermm:
I really don't get the big deal of asking such a question on the internet but maybe this forum is more part of one's daily psyche than I previously thought.:idunno:
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Originally Posted by
Busyman™
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Originally Posted by
clocker
You're right.
My initial reaction was that it's rude to ask.
Not sure whether it's age or just upbringing that forms this opinion.
After reading the thread a few other random thoughts emerged:
-I have no idea what my hourly rate might be; it's been decades since I was paid by the hour, so coppercox (a newer member with whom I've had no interaction) must be rather young to even pose the question in such a way.
-Any response would be only superficially telling without considerable additional information. A princely income in Ames, Iowa would make you a beggar in Manhattan or London so what have you learned?
Excellent, then saying what one does for a living is along the same lines.:ermm:
Not at all, voluntering information about one's own employment is in no way analagous to asking someone else what they earn.
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Originally Posted by
clocker
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Originally Posted by
JPaul
It may however be a cultural thing. Perhaps we are just more reserved than our colonial cousins. Tho' I suspect that j2, clocker etc may also feel it a rude question.
You're right.
My initial reaction was that it's rude to ask.
Not sure whether it's age or just upbringing that forms this opinion.
After reading the thread a few other random thoughts emerged:
-I have no idea what my hourly rate might be; it's been decades since I was paid by the hour, so coppercox (a newer member with whom I've had no interaction)
must be rather young to even pose the question in such a way.
-Any response would be only superficially telling without considerable additional information. A princely income in Ames, Iowa would make you a beggar in Manhattan or London so what have you learned?
Jpaul's explanation makes sense.
I had the naive belief that the internet was where someone could come and ask questions just about anything, especially topics that are considered crass, rude, or taboo to ask in person. I will not meet any of you in person, hence, I do not get embarrassed asking such questions. But I see this is not the case in this forum where many of the posters have taken affront to my direct and blunt (tell it like it is, not beating around the bush) question.
No, not young, I'm 38...and once again I posed the question just as I would - direct and to the point. The question is clear and understood without question (except for the poster who postulated another meaning: that I was "bragging" about what I made!!! lol...is that something to brag about???? $30 an hour???!!!! maybe my home valued at 129,000 is something to brag about!!! wow....)
What have I learned from posing such a question:
1. The people with thousands of posts seem to have the most difficulty answering the original thread. Such responses as: "i don't get paid hourly so i don't know" or "none of your fucking business!" beats around the bush.......and yeah, it isn't any business of mine so why would you even comment? goto another thread where you can discuss what is everyone's fucking business....
2. There are more reserved people in this forum than I expected. Many of these people have allegiances to each other so if I offend one the others come running to "comment-me-to-death"...they still didn't answer the question though.........
3. Post counts on forums are considered status symbols...so someone with thousands of posts appears to have a "respectable" status while a Noob (like me) with 50 posts is young and immature. Well, in real life someone that talks a lot usually isn't well respected since they seem to comment about everything....just for the sake of talking. I could easily spend a weekend commenting in every post "what a crass question" or something like that and end up in the hundreds of posts.....some people post just to make themselves feel some worth in these forums...
4. I am enjoying this tremendously! What started off as a curious question has mushroomed into something more. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by
coppercox
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Originally Posted by
clocker
You're right.
My initial reaction was that it's rude to ask.
Not sure whether it's age or just upbringing that forms this opinion.
After reading the thread a few other random thoughts emerged:
-I have no idea what my hourly rate might be; it's been decades since I was paid by the hour, so coppercox (a newer member with whom I've had no interaction) must be rather young to even pose the question in such a way.
-Any response would be only superficially telling without considerable additional information. A princely income in Ames, Iowa would make you a beggar in Manhattan or London so what have you learned?
Jpaul's explanation makes sense.
I had the naive belief that the internet was where someone could come and ask questions just about anything, especially topics that are considered crass, rude, or taboo to ask in person. I will not meet any of you in person, hence, I do not get embarrassed asking such questions. But I see this is not the case in this forum where many of the posters have taken affront to my direct and blunt (tell it like it is, not beating around the bush) question.
No, not young, I'm 38...and once again I posed the question just as I would - direct and to the point. The question is clear and understood without question (except for the poster who postulated another meaning: that I was "bragging" about what I made!!! lol...is that something to brag about???? $30 an hour???!!!! maybe my home valued at 129,000 is something to brag about!!! wow....)
What have I learned from posing such a question:
1. The people with thousands of posts seem to have the most difficulty answering the original thread. Such responses as: "i don't get paid hourly so i don't know" or "none of your fucking business!" beats around the bush.......and yeah, it isn't any business of mine so why would you even comment? goto another thread where you can discuss what is everyone's fucking business....
2. There are more reserved people in this forum than I expected. Many of these people have allegiances to each other so if I offend one the others come running to "comment-me-to-death"...they still didn't answer the question though.........
3. Post counts on forums are considered status symbols...so someone with thousands of posts appears to have a "respectable" status while a Noob (like me) with 50 posts is young and immature. Well, in real life someone that talks a lot usually isn't well respected since they seem to comment about everything....just for the sake of talking. I could easily spend a weekend commenting in every post "what a crass question" or something like that and end up in the hundreds of posts.....some people post just to make themselves feel some worth in these forums...
4. I am enjoying this tremendously! What started off as a curious question has mushroomed into something more. Thank you!
Damn! Welcome to the board...again. You hit the nail on the head for the most part. #s 1 & 2 especially.
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I was right about the 38, how fantastic is that.
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Well, what's wring with treating this forum as a part of your life?
Because it's the internet it's less sincere?
there's people on here I've never met, but I have been talking to them and reading their replies for years. JP, J2k4, Bo, etc etc
Is there is such a thing as internet pals, then those are the people that are my 'internet pals'
Of course I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, just like you would give your real friends the benefit of the doubt if some stranger walked into your local and brought up a subject that maybe wasw a bit touchy feely for some people.
Post count means nothing, however, the length of time you've known someone for does.
Take Petri for example. Got barely 500 posts or sth but I've been talking to the guy for years.
As said before. This is the lounge
If you're looking for a straight answer to a serious question then this is the wrong place.
This place has been drivel since the first day I joined and that's why most people like it here.
Simple. Nothing more, nothing less
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Drivel ftw, it's what we come here for.
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I don't think it's a crass question at all,simple curiosity is all.
As I don't work I can't answer,but when I did I was on about 7 quid an hour which was pretty good for factory work back then.