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are you really that ignorant, most of the good site's don't get their torrents from other trackers, the uploaders get them from the top sites where the groups release them to.

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Originally Posted by Halt3r

are you really that ignorant, most of the good site's don't get their torrents from other trackers, the uploaders get them from the top sites where the groups release them to.

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The ignorant here is you. I didn`t talk about 0-day shit, I talk about the shit like sedgr, tpbz, bitme etc

I think there should be a place where we can nominate community Reps. If there is good support from users, i think the staff here should consider them to be added to the list as well.

is that a good idea?

Anyone got an invite for Oink?

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Originally Posted by Cheese

Anyone got an invite for Oink?

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www.google.co.uk

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Originally Posted by Halt3r

if a site asks for it's members not to offer invites on forums, then it's simple they should not be offering them on public forums, yet despite this i have seen plenty of threads in your invite section (i can still see the topics) for these sites which ask it's users not to respond to such threads, however i have the feeling that people in fact do. how can you justify saying these are good user's when they can't follow such a simple site rule? please explain that to me.

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RealitY and j0hn already answered your question a few posts back but you failed to understand their point of view.

so i will try to simplify it for you.

This is what you think:
you consider this a place which does trades of invites to sites who do not allow that. people should give their invites to other people they know and trust, and not trade them blindly and give them to people they know nothing about.

This is what the FST community thinks:

i will quote what j0hn said, because i dont think anyone could state it more eloquently than he just did:

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Originally Posted by j0hn

this place is being labelled as scum, as reality said. i think thats pretty damn rude. how many other public forums with a bittorrent invite section are making such an effort to help sites who they have 100% no connection to. filesharingtalk could say screw you, not help, and allow a flood of noobs in to trade/request invites, and in doing so increase the number of visitors it gets. but they are making a good effort to help the wider community, and its being rubbished right through this thread.

if i were to give a member here an invite to 1 of ur "secret" sites, i think that would be better than 101 other ways an invite could be handed out. ive been member here over a year, and have a large volume of posts. i feel i know alot of the members here, and that they know me. so in alot of ways its not very public at all. not everyone here who uses filesharingtalk, or its bittorrent section, are doing bad things against ur private sites. i make many reports about ur sites being mentioned. u should be praising these forums for making these efforts, as its a rare thing, and not something i think u'll see on alot of other sites.

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so actually, this site is a community in which people know eachother, it's not just some random place swapping invites. people here offer invites to other people they know and trust (and that is exactly the way the rules state invites should be given out) they contribute to the community by being active on the boards hence they are not complete strangers to one another, and while giving out invites on the forum, they are not harming the site by inviting potential cheaters/leechers/threats but people they already know from another community.

FST is a reliable place to give invites at, full stop. And it's not breaking the respective's sites rules, you know why? because those rules are extremely shallow

what does giving invites to people you trust mean????????? if the people you trust are on an online community aka. public place, you cant trust those ppl??? you're supposed to know the people who you get your invites from in real life???? what is the chance of knowing someone from a tracker with 10k users in real life? think about it... you dont know yourself who qualifies as a person you can trust and not... you're shallow yourself...

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Originally Posted by Cheese

Anyone got an invite for Oink?

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Yes, I have some

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Originally Posted by dracophi

I think there should be a place where we can nominate community Reps. If there is good support from users, i think the staff here should consider them to be added to the list as well.

is that a good idea?

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i dont think it would be a fair vote cos users outnumber staff :P

you're trying to get rid of us? and our stars :no:

On the topic of Sites stealing torrents from other sites:
Most sites rules specify not to upload their torrents to other sites. They specify nothing about the actual files themselves should you create your own torrents for them. However... Most torrent sites have their own scene access where they download releases. This does not however mean they all do.

On the topic of invites:
While there are alot of communitities with rules that are more strict than other comunities. I feel each community should be eligible to create thier own set of rules for users to abide by. Ex: While I am here it is my intent and your sites staff intent for me to abide by this sites rules as I would expect them to do on my site. It is merely common courtesy. Each site has thier own set of rules for thier own reasons. Some sites feel being more strinct in their rules they are providing better protection for their users. (You could compare this to countries in the world if you would like an example. EX: Israel has 12 yr old boys walking around the streets in their army with guns. The United states doesnt. Just because 1 place runs things a certain way doesnt mean everyone has to.)

On the topic of our access right to your information:
We see nothing more than your average users see. The only differance in our accounts is we get more shiney stars ;)

Topic about us declaring who we are and where we are from:
We are from torrent sites in one way or another. I feel as mentioned by others it is subject to each personal associated with this class to declare who we are or not declare who we are.

In closing, I would like to thank the staff here for their efforts in helping out the torrent community as a whole. God knows the kind of pressure you guys have had to put up with from both parties. (Staff on sites / Users here) I know what its like so I do have the utmost respect for you guys in trying to help out both parties. Users. Many respects to you as well, some of you may or may not agree with the changes the staff have made to accomodate us but I hope in the longrun it only benefits you and the many differant torrent communities you are apart of now or may be part of in the future. I look forward to getting to know some of you through future posts here, or through other sites that I am a member of. If anyone has any questions for me feel free to post below or ask in private messages.
-TopHos Owner

I blame google Invites

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Originally Posted by jaqozo

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Originally Posted by Halt3r

are you really that ignorant, most of the good site's don't get their torrents from other trackers, the uploaders get them from the top sites where the groups release them to.

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The ignorant here is you. I didn`t talk about 0-day shit, I talk about the shit like sedgr, tpbz, bitme etc

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jaqozo is right about the stealing

sedgr.COM is one of the lamest and most pathetic trackers out there. most tpbz users know that.
tpbz is a great community, the rightful successor of the former sed.GR (most mods former mods from sed.gr are mods at tpbz)

bitme is a valuable tracker, some users on tpbz leaked some exclusive releases to bitme, but that were the USERS, not the staff on bitme so they are not to be blamed

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Originally Posted by syD

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Originally Posted by jaqozo

The ignorant here is you. I didn`t talk about 0-day shit, I talk about the shit like sedgr, tpbz, bitme etc

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jaqozo is right about the stealing

sedgr.COM is one of the lamest and most pathetic trackers out there.

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Hence why Halt3r was on about the good ones, not the lame ones.

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Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

On the topic of our access right to your information:
We see nothing more than your average users see. The only differance in our accounts is we get more shiney stars ;)

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:lol:

If you only knew the history of those stars :whistling

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Originally Posted by syD

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Originally Posted by jaqozo

The ignorant here is you. I didn`t talk about 0-day shit, I talk about the shit like sedgr, tpbz, bitme etc

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jaqozo is right about the stealing

sedgr.COM is one of the lamest and most pathetic trackers out there. most tpbz users know that.
tpbz is a great community, the rightful successor of the former sed.GR (most mods former mods from sed.gr are mods at tpbz)

bitme is a valuable tracker, some users on tpbz leaked some exclusive releases to bitme, but that were the USERS, not the staff on bitme so they are not to be blamed

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Many times you will find staff on most sites are more involved with helping users or managing the site. They many times dont notice WHERE the content being posted is coming from. Myself personally I like sites where theres alot of custom content thats created by the uploaders themselves, as well as the content filtered in from the scene. Provides a great number or releases for all us picky users. I personally have been using bitsoup the last couple of weeks. Great site despite what others may think.


Barbarossa feel free to provide some insight if you like. Would be glad to hear your opinion on them.

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Originally Posted by Halt3r

the uploaders get them from the top sites where the groups release them to.

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top sites? :D you have got to be kidding youself mate! perhaps you meant dumps... there's a slight difference between the two ;)

:huh:

Alot of posts are being done by personal opinion rather than actual experience it seems.

Most torrent sites, despite being totally different sites, actually DO work together. They work together helping each other out, whether it's a member that's not doing as told, to coding issues, threats etc. At least the ones I know of are very helpful in helping other staff of other sites.

RealitY, has access to forums that I've made possible for him to see this all in action. There are a few squabbles, but the majority of people do respect the others.

Each individual site is intitled to have it's own sets of rules. What makes one site different than another is the staff. Some staff may find it neccessary to enforce some rules more than others. Whereas on another site, that rule is there but they bother enforcing something else.

Private does not necessarily mean "invite only". Some sites are invite only but advertise openly. Others are what I'd describe as "underground".
When you sign up to any site you check the box that asks if you read the rules. If you don't abide by that site's rules that person violates the agreement and it can be terminated. As mentioned this has a lot to do with individual staff of that site.

Grouping sites jaqozo as a clump is unfair when you say that "all sites download .....". Yes, this DOES happen time to time on a site or two, but not ALL sites do this.

I have not seen where anyone has said that this site was "scum". Putting words out that were not said is also unfair. It's giving a false perception of things.

Knowing how sites "normally" operate, I can say that the bt grapevine runs deep. If one person knows about something you can bet by the end of the day that 1000+ will know.

It was only about a year ago, that you couldn't even mention another site's name on another site. Most of you have to have noticed that this has relaxed some. URLs mostly are not allowed still, but naming a site is ok. Alot of his has come with sites banding together and supporting each other with what they know. Sometimes that information just may be some guy on some site posting a site which shouldn't be named. Such as this case.

I approached RealitY on a subject that was mentioned, about invites. I was not rude, mad or offensive to him. I would think I was very nice, and friendly. Simply I asked him what I had heard was true or not, and just wanted to find out what happened.

Talking with him, he thought it would be a great idea in helping sites out here as well. I showed him the set up we had. He's seen it all first hand.
No one has forced anyone here to do this. It was thought of as a great idea to help each other out not a hostile takeover. No one is telling FST how to run the site. They ARE the ones running it. Just now they happen to be tapped into a larger resource of knowlege.

Knowlege is power. The more you know the more informed you can be to make actual opinions and decisions.

What's so bad about expanding someone's learning?

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Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

. (You could compare this to countries in the world if you would like an example. EX: Israel has 12 yr old boys walking around the streets in their army with guns. The United states doesnt. Just because 1 place runs things a certain way doesnt mean everyone has to.)

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Friend, I think u're watching 2 much CNN.
From where did u get that idea ? :angry: 12 yr old boys with guns....
First know the facts - then u can write whatever u want.

(& no, we don't use Camels to get from 1 place 2 the other)

So long as the new chaps don't have access to my personal details, including IP then I'm not really fussed.

Tho' to be fair I have been saying you shouldn't be "trading invites" with people you don't know for months know. Further that the private BT sites whose invites are being shared are going to get a bit fucking annoyed about it.

It's sort of defeating the idea of private tracker. Some muppet coming here, making 5 posts, then getting invites to private sites. It sort of defeats the point. N'est ce pas.

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Originally Posted by JPaul

So long as the new chaps don't have access to my personal details, including IP then I'm not really fussed.

Tho' to be fair I have been saying you shouldn't be "trading invites" with people you don't know for months know. Further that the private BT sites whose invites are being shared are going to get a bit fucking annoyed about it.

It's sort of defeating the idea of private tracker. Some muppet coming here, making 5 posts, then getting invites to private sites. It sort of defeats the point. N'est ce pas.

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I know ALL about you...:naughty:
Joking with you of course lol.

Sorry, for laughing but you sounded so cute being a bit paranoid lol

No worries, it's nothing like that, I can only see as much detail as you are willing to share on your own profile. No one has access to FST staff tools or access levels. :)

Sorry again, but it DID sound cute lol

To clarify and will be added to the first post...

For those interested most of the sites represented at FST dont have any objections to trades and just ask you do it responsibly. The only site that were currently aware that does object to is u*** so just dont trade those as theres many others you can. They dont even have invites currently. Some sites dont want their names or urls mentioned and FST has filters for those so dont use spaces or something similar. Hope this clarifies things a bit...

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Originally Posted by JPaul

So long as the new chaps don't have access to my personal details, including IP then I'm not really fussed.

Tho' to be fair I have been saying you shouldn't be "trading invites" with people you don't know for months know. Further that the private BT sites whose invites are being shared are going to get a bit fucking annoyed about it.

It's sort of defeating the idea of private tracker. Some muppet coming here, making 5 posts, then getting invites to private sites. It sort of defeats the point. N'est ce pas.

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I know ALL about you...:naughty:
Joking with you of course lol.

Sorry, for laughing but you sounded so cute being a bit paranoid lol

No worries, it's nothing like that, I can only see as much detail as you are willing to share on your own profile. No one has access to FST staff tools or access levels. :)

Sorry again, but it DID sound cute lol

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No prob

By way of apology please send me an invite to whatever BT site(s) you represent.

Me = Cute :wub:

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Originally Posted by RealitY

To clarify and will be added to the first post...

For those interested most of the sites represented at FST dont have any objections to trades and just ask you do it responsibly. The only site that were currently aware that does object to is u*** so just dont trade those as theres many others you can. They dont even have invites currently. Some sites dont want their names or urls mentioned and FST has filters for those so dont use spaces or something similar. Hope this clarifies things a bit...

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By "do it responsibly" I take it you mean "only invite people you know and trust" so that we don't put other members at risk.

This is internet, you don't know who is who or what somebody did before he joined this site unless that somebody says it. But would you belive it and what does it matters ? There are forums & hubs i know where everybody is a moderator if he is from yeasterday on internet or for the start.

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Originally Posted by limesqueezer

This is internet, you don't know who is who or what somebody did before he joined this site unless that somebody says it. But would you belive it and what does it matters ? There are forums & hubs i know where everybody is a moderator if he is from yeasterday on internet or for the start.

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There are people here I know loads about and I have given them invites to sites. They have done the same for me. There are also people I have given invites to :earl:. I always thought that was the point of private trackers. If they are to be swapped with strangers then just make them public.

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Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

. (You could compare this to countries in the world if you would like an example. EX: Israel has 12 yr old boys walking around the streets in their army with guns. The United states doesnt. Just because 1 place runs things a certain way doesnt mean everyone has to.)

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Friend, I think u're watching 2 much CNN.
From where did u get that idea ? :angry: 12 yr old boys with guns....
First know the facts - then u can write whatever u want.

(& no, we don't use Camels to get from 1 place 2 the other)

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I have acctually visited the country in question 13 times in the last 5 years. Each time there were in fact 12 year olds with guns. If some of them were even that old. Maybe you go to a differant side of the country that doesnt participate in war as much.

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Originally Posted by syD

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Originally Posted by Halt3r

the uploaders get them from the top sites where the groups release them to.

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top sites? :D you have got to be kidding youself mate! perhaps you meant dumps... there's a slight difference between the two ;)

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I know the differance between the 2. Lookup my name on google search for refrences if needed. Check info about scene busts from JUNE of this year.

Maybe this topic is getting a little off the original subject??
As stated in previous posts. Alot of sites dont mind when people give their invites away to people they trust. Most sites just dont want their addresses posting publicly. You will even find alot of sites now allow you to refer to them by certain code names. Ex: FTN. I have to agree with WV's post where she stated alot of other sites have been working together. I also have seen this first hand. Its been very good for the torrent communities in a whole when they work with other sites. We find vulnerabilities and help confront other issues. Its also nice to talk to staff from other sites once in a while to blow off steem.

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Originally Posted by RealitY

To clarify and will be added to the first post...

For those interested most of the sites represented at FST dont have any objections to trades and just ask you do it responsibly. The only site that were currently aware that does object to is u*** so just dont trade those as theres many others you can. They dont even have invites currently. Some sites dont want their names or urls mentioned and FST has filters for those so dont use spaces or something similar. Hope this clarifies things a bit...

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bitmetv and bitme do not allow their users to hand out invites using this method either, and unless i'm mistaken ftn and sct are the same.

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Originally Posted by Cheese

Anyone got an invite for Oink?

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Hmmm?

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Originally Posted by zooom

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Originally Posted by RealitY

To clarify and will be added to the first post...

For those interested most of the sites represented at FST dont have any objections to trades and just ask you do it responsibly. The only site that were currently aware that does object to is u*** so just dont trade those as theres many others you can. They dont even have invites currently. Some sites dont want their names or urls mentioned and FST has filters for those so dont use spaces or something similar. Hope this clarifies things a bit...

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bitmetv and bitme do not allow their users to hand out invites using this method either, and unless i'm mistaken ftn and sct are the same.

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:yup:

No BT site that isn't totally closed looped (no invies, no way in) can even humor themselves about being safe from the RIAA/MPAA.

You can google the names and locations of undercover CIA agents. You think a Pro couldn't find your torrentsite and get an account? Lucky for you, they don't want you. If the 'powers that be' want you, they'd find you. They can't sue everyone, nor do they want to - or have to. There are plans in the works right now for combating BT starting with the internet connection you're using. Right now is the Wild West stage of the internet. The yonger people here will be telling their kids about the shit they were able to get away with, and they won't believe you.

You guys should loosen up and enjoy what's left of the ride. Let the invites be trade freely. To hell with all the secret clubs and the people on their high horses.

Umm, no?
For some 'odd' reason we at ST tend to think, strongly may I add,we have the right and obligation to do just things for our own sake and for the benefit of our loyal trusty good members - old or new. What's left of the ride is to be judged by us on our own tracker. When you are able to have your own server running BT tracker, then you can enforce free for all policy and there's nothing wrong with that as long as you're responsable for your doings.

What I try to really say is: we have strict rules that we expect our members to follow for their own sake and benefit as well as ours. We're not chopping heads or mutilate them in order to prove us right. It's our content/qos and behavior that prevails over free http services (regardless of protocol they might use).

wel come m8

Hi there Fevves, nice to see you here. You guys do a great job on ST.