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Originally Posted by Busyman™
Neither was I.:wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
This must be Stereotype Day.
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Originally Posted by Busyman™Neither was I.:wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by vidcc
This must be Stereotype Day.
The thing is my friend: I AINT SAYING ITS OK TO INSULT ANYONE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™Like it's ok for me to talk to your wife, son, and friends the same way you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by namzuf9
You are in a bubble.
If nigger is an insult then fine lets all get pissed off when people use the word.
If lard arse is an insult lets all get pissed off when people use the phrase.
The point is all insults are designed by their very nature to hurt. Why should it hurt more for someone to be called a nigger than if they were called a lard arse?
Consider that nigger is adapted from the word negro which is a descriptive term for a black man. Lard arse is not actually in the dictionary so it's complete slang concivied purely to insult.
My quarry is not with how insulting the "n" word might be but how it should be more insulting than anything else that deals with a persons attributes.
The reason is because the word 'nigger' invokes memories of slavery, lynch mobs and persecution. Calling someone a 'lard-arse' invokes no such memories.Quote:
Originally Posted by namzuf9
Therefore calling a fat black bloke that you don't know a 'nigger' is much more offensive to him than calling him a 'lard-arse'.
It's fucking obvious.
I thought slavery was abolished loiyke over a hundred years ago in 'merka:unsure:
not that i'm condoning the use of the word nigger or any other racial slur, like.
I'm off to bed now,It's to damn late for me to continue this debate. If anyone cares to reply, I will be back tommorow.
At this stage I would like to mention I am not a racist in fact I have a lot of black family. My aunt married my uncle in 1974. My uncle came from Jamica and as a result the marriage was deeply frowned upon. My aunt and uncle suffered real racist abuse, the "n" word was the very least of their worries with people spitting on them in the streets and bricks being thrown through their windows.
I recently went to my aunts 70th birthday party and felt like the spot on a domino! So before some idiot decides to tell me I dont know anything about black people and the black community please fuck off!
I dunno how this guy just lost it and went off on those African American folks, it was definitely uncalled for.
I don't think you're a racist but having black family/being black/liking rap does not preclude someone from being racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by namzuf9
FYI.
Yeah it was :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper Bo
True, but there is history tied to the word nigger. If a white person calls a black person a nigger (and are complete strangers) and he means it then it sounds very bad (because he's white). If a white person calls a black person a nigger even if they are friends then it still sounds bad because of the history tied to the word (because the person is white some black people must insist he's racist because of that fact he said that but at the same time they are too if he does not mean it - of coarse its hard to tell most of the time).Quote:
Originally Posted by namzuf9Why does it matter who's saying it. Surley a nigger is a nigger as much as a lard arse is a lard arse? Or is it only ok for a nigger to call someone a nigger as is its ok for a lard arse to call someone a lard arse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
People make fun of Jews all the time, even on t.v. (ex: Southpark) and there is history tied to that ethnicity too. There is no slang for the word so it doesn't sound bad if any person calls a Jew a Jew. I mean, it is okay to call a Jew a Jew because that is what they call themselves. Black people continue to call themselves niggers and it seems like that is what they want to call themselves because of how often they use it and how they use it.
America has a Black History month, but do we have a Jewish history month? No. I'm not trying to stereotype black people but our country seems to care more about black people than Jews not like it really seems like a big deal to most people.
I don't think anyone should use the word because of its meaning. We have to learn our history and learn from our mistakes.
I'm white, by the way, and I like Jews and black people (I have black friends). Just my 2 cents... ;)
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Originally Posted by Proper BoWord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
You do realise that Southpark makes fun of people who take the piss out of Jewish people, rather than poking fun of Jewish people themselves, don't you :dabs:
Oh, wait. You're 16 and your interweb handle is 'Gam3Guy'.
NVM.
Oh, so that means I'm stupid? Theres a difference between a Jewish person and a Jew, btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
So how can the word nigger stir up memories of slavery?:blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerYeah it was :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper Bo
Pretty much so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gam3GuyOh, so that means I'm stupid?Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Not at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gam3GuyOh, so that means I'm stupid?Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
It just lead me to believe that you really didn't know that the SouthPark writers aren't anti-semitic :)
one of them is jewish.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerNot at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gam3Guy
It just lead me to believe that you really didn't know that the SouthPark writers aren't anti-semitic :)
I understand that. I'm saying it's okay to call people certain things as long as they have the right intention. I know the SouthPark writers aren't anti-semetic - they poke fun at everyone and everything without a bad intention. That's why I love that show.Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerNot at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gam3Guy
It just lead me to believe that you really didn't know that the SouthPark writers aren't anti-semitic :)
Aww man, not the "I have black family and friends so I can't be racist" bit. :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by namzuf9
I was waiting for Cosmo to give the "I'm have black friends" testimonial.:lol:
It's not that I don't think you know about black people. I don't think you know the human condition in general.
You "logicalize" nigger as simple name calling yet can't seem to grasp why is it that almost an entire group of people find it more offensive than lard ass.:ermm: It is a lack of common sense.
Obviously having black family didn't put you over the hump.
It only would if the person could either remember 100 years ago, could remember someone older than them telling them about it or could remember garnering the information from some kind of third party. Like a book or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper BoSo how can the word nigger stir up memories of slavery?:blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Other than that you're right, there is absolutely no way whatsoever that the word 'nigger' could invoke a memory of slavery.
Probably because there are black people that were born yesterday but eventually will learn their history. An actual memory? No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper BoSo how can the word nigger stir up memories of slavery?:blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
They're not poking fun at Jews for being Jews - or cripples for being crippled - or black people for being black, dickhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gam3GuyI understand that. I'm saying it's okay to call people certain things as long as they have the right intention. I know the SouthPark writers aren't anti-semetic - they poke fun at everyone and everything without a bad intention. That's why I love that show.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
They're poking fun at ignorant people. That's the joke. Duh.
True but not all black (read as african-american if you're one of those over the top politically correct merkins) people were slaves or descended from slaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™Probably because there are black people that were born yesterday but eventually will learn their history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper Bo
Not really sure it's relevant, but I'm correct tho':smilie4:
So I guess I am a "dickhead" for saying what you said only more generally. Wow, you are a fucking prick.Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerThey're not poking fun at Jews for being Jews - or cripples for being crippled - or black people for being black, dickhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gam3Guy
They're poking fun at ignorant people. That's the joke. Duh.
You're a dickhead for saying 'People make fun of Jews all the time, even on t.v. (ex: Southpark)' and believing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gam3GuySo I guess I am a "dickhead" for saying what you said only more generally. Wow, you are a fucking prick.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Ok?
Just a little scene & song from a Broadway show I saw over the weekend...
Princeton:
Say, Kate, can I ask you a question?
Kate Monster:
Sure!
Princeton:
Well, you know Trekkie Monster upstairs?
Kate Monster:
Uh huh.
Princeton:
Well, he's Trekkie Monster, and you're Kate Monster.
Kate Monster:
Right.
Princeton:
You're both Monsters.
Kate Monster:
Yeah.
Princeton:
Are you two related?
Kate Monster:
What?! Princeton, I'm surprised at you! I find that racist!
Princeton:
Oh, well, I'm sorry! I was just asking!
Kate Monster:
Well, it's a touchy subject.
No, not all Monsters are related.
What are you trying say, huh?
That we all look the same to you?
Huh, huh, huh?
Princeton:
No, no, no, not at all. I'm sorry,
I guess that was a little racist.
Kate Monster:
I should say so. You should be much more
careful when you're talking about the
sensitive subject of race.
Princeton:
Well, look who's talking!
Kate Monster:
What do you mean?
Princeton:
What about that special Monster School you told me about?
Kate Monster:
What about it?
Princeton:
Could someone like me go there?
Kate Monster:
No, we don't want people like you-
Princeton:
You see?!
You're a little bit racist.
Kate Monster:
Well, you're a little bit too.
Princeton:
I guess we're both a little bit racist.
Kate Monster:
Admitting it is not an easy thing to do...
Princeton:
But I guess it's true.
Kate Monster:
Between me and you,
I think
Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go
Around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact
We all should face
Everyone makes judgments
Based on race.
Princeton:
Now not big judgments, like who to hire
or who to buy a newspaper from -
Kate Monster:
No!
Princeton:
No, just little judgments like thinking that Mexican
busboys should learn to speak goddamn English!
Kate Monster:
Right!
Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Today.
So, everyone's a little bit racist
Okay!
Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
But you laugh because
They're based on truth.
Don't take them as
Personal attacks.
Everyone enjoys them -
So relax!
Princeton:
All right, stop me if you've heard this one.
Kate Monster:
Okay!
Princeton:
There's a plan going down and there's only
one paracute. And there's a rabbi, a priest...
Kate Monster:
And a black guy!
Gary Coleman:
Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Kate?
Kate Monster:
Uh...
Gary Coleman:
You were telling a black joke!
Princeton:
Well, sure, Gary, but lots of people tell black jokes.
Gary Coleman:
I don't.
Princeton:
Well, of course you don't - you're black!
But I bet you tell Polack jokes, right?
Gary Coleman:
Well, sure I do. Those stupid Polacks!
Princeton:
Now, don't you think that's a little racist?
Gary Coleman:
Well, damn, I guess you're right.
Kate Monster:
You're a little bit racist.
Gary Coleman:
Well, you're a little bit too.
Princeton:
We're all a little bit racist.
Gary Coleman:
I think that I would
Have to agree with you.
Princeton/Kate Monster:
We're glad you do.
Gary Coleman:
It's sad but true!
Everyone's a little bit racist -
All right!
Kate Monster:
All right!
Princeton:
All right!
Gary Coleman:
All right!
Bigotry has never been
Exclusively white
All:
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
Even though we all know
That it's wrong,
Maybe it would help us
Get along.
Princeton:
Oh, Christ do I feel good.
Gary Coleman:
Now there was a fine upstanding black man!
Princeton:
Who?
Gary Coleman:
Jesus Christ.
Kate Monster:
But, Gary, Jesus was white.
Gary Coleman:
No, Jesus was black.
Kate Monster:
No, Jesus was white.
Gary Coleman:
No, I'm pretty sure that Jesus was black-
Princeton:
Guys, guys...Jesus was Jewish!
Brian:
Hey guys, what are you laughing about?
Gary Coleman:
Racism!
Brian:
Cool.
Christmas Eve:
BRIAN! Come back here!
You take out lecycuraburs!
Princeton:
What's that mean?
Brian:
Um, recyclables.
Hey, don't laugh at her!
How many languages do you speak?
Kate Monster:
Oh, come off it, Brian!
Everyone's a little bit racist.
Brian:
I'm not!
Princeton:
Oh no?
Brian:
Nope!
How many Oriental wives
Have you got?
Christmas Eve:
What? Brian!
Princeton:
Brian, buddy, where you been?
The term is Asian-American!
Christmas Eve:
I know you are no
Intending to be
But calling me Oriental -
Offensive to me!
Brian:
I'm sorry, honey, I love you.
Christmas Eve:
And I love you.
Brian:
But you're racist, too.
Christmas Eve:
Yes, I know.
The Jews have all
The money
And the whites have all
The power.
And I'm always in taxi-cab
With driver who no shower!
Princeton:
Me too!
Kate Monster:
Me too!
Gary Coleman:
I can't even get a taxi!
All:
Everyone's a little bit racist
It's true.
But everyone is just about
As racist as you!
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
And everyone stopped being
So PC
Maybe we could live in -
Harmony!
Christmas Eve:
Evlyone's a ritter bit lacist!
P.S. for vid:FTW stands for f*ck the world, a slogan of white supremist groups.
that's too long :/
I used to be a huge fan of Cramer, and was even defending him when I first heard he weant off.. but after watching that video, that SH$$ was disgusting. I dont give 2 FU%%s about him or his racist career. He deserves whats coming to him.. oh yeah, and I am black
First off, you are over analyzing what I said. Secondly, you need to get outside because you have been on this board for two years and you have over 30,000 posts. Lastly, you are being a prick for trying to prove me wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerYou're a dickhead for saying 'People make fun of Jews all the time, even on t.v. (ex: Southpark)' and believing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gam3Guy
Ok?
So how about you fuck off, dickhead.
So what you're basically saying is 'fuck off, get a life, get laid, wanker'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gam3GuyFirst off, you are over analyzing what I said. Secondly, you need to get outside because you have been on this board for two years and you have over 30,000 posts. Lastly, you are being a prick for trying to prove me wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
So how about you fuck off, dickhead.
I always thought that was interweb speak for 'I capitulate' - but it can't be cos you're so worldly wise and I'm a sad fuck with no life.
Quelle conundrum.
Have you ever noticed though, that those who say "get a life" are typically the ones that need a life?Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
This thread is about insulting other people.
For once you are on topic.
Surely you're not suggesting that Gam3Guy might be a bit of an introvert who has trouble speaking to girls without stammering or dribbling down the front of his cardigan :oQuote:
Originally Posted by NikkiDHave you ever noticed though, that those who say "get a life" are typically the ones that need a life?Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
I had taken him to be the straight A, quarterback, babe-magnet type.
But of course. Hardcore gamers usually are, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
I've never met a hardcore gamer who hasn't been a total babe magnet.Quote:
Originally Posted by NikkiDBut of course. Hardcore gamers usually are, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Of course, that may because I've never actually met a hardcore gamer because they're always at home. Alone.
Hmmmm... I think I may be afraid to meet one. They always have such tough looking avatars.Quote:
Originally Posted by mankerI've never met a hardcore gamer who hasn't been a total babe magnet.Quote:
Originally Posted by NikkiD
Of course, that may because I've never actually met a hardcore gamer because they're always at home. Alone.
Beware "chrome-bin-buying-banker's guilt" over your exceedingly cruel behavior. :whistlingQuote:
Originally Posted by mankerSo what you're basically saying is 'fuck off, get a life, get laid, wanker'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gam3Guy
I always thought that was interweb speak for 'I capitulate' - but it can't be cos you're so worldly wise and I'm a sad fuck with no life.
Quelle conundrum.
You are correct and it wasn't relevant but thanks tho'.:smilie4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper BoTrue but not all black (read as african-american if you're one of those over the top politically correct merkins) people were slaves or descended from slaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
Not really sure it's relevant, but I'm correct tho':smilie4:
Actually no. Many times those who have that said to need to get a life, but not always.Quote:
Originally Posted by NikkiDHave you ever noticed though, that those who say "get a life" are typically the ones that need a life?Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
It'll be someone who puts so much stock in their post count, etc.
If I say to that person, "get a life", it doesn't mean I need a life jus' cuz I said it.:unsure:
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Originally Posted by mankerSurely you're not suggesting that Gam3Guy might be a bit of an introvert who has trouble speaking to girls without stammering or dribbling down the front of his cardigan :oQuote:
Originally Posted by NikkiD
I had taken him to be the straight A, quarterback, babe-magnet type.