Good question I'd be curious to hear what the UTorrent staff have to say about this one might have to go have a look at the forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh
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Good question I'd be curious to hear what the UTorrent staff have to say about this one might have to go have a look at the forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh
here's what I found on a private tracker forum about this release
Hope this helps
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Is it allowed here?
NO
Why?
uTorrent 1.7, NO other torrents going other then 1 linux iso torrent, no other applications running (actually running in wine), separate dedicated IP = Mediasentry IP hits 36.
Halite, same torrent, same system = 0 Media sentry IP hits.
Every version > 1.6.1 is Bittorrent Inc., which is directly in partnership with the movie studios. Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures, News Corp.'s 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate, Palm Pictures and Kadokawa Pictures USA etc etc .
In fact versions > 1.7 don't even have the same developer doing it. It's all handled now by Bittorrent Inc's development. The original author (up to 1.6.1) is no longer even part of the project.
Right from uTorrent's FAQ
"Who makes µTorrent?
Ludvig Strigeus (ludde) is the original author and former maintainer of µTorrent.
BitTorrent Inc's developers are the current maintainers of µTorrent. "
Will it ever be allowed?
NO
If your in doubt trrace these IP's that were blocked from outgoing through my firewall with uTorrent 1.7
64.124.145.113
64.124.145.104
206.169.225.92
64.34.174.141
64.34.172.152
206.169.170.246
206.169.230.102
Link to utorrent 1.6.1:
http://download.utorrent.com/1.6.1/utorrent.exe
Actually, it provides no legitimate information backing up the bans.
It provides no proof that there is any information being exchanged.
It provides no proof that any sensitive data is being exchanged.
None of these posts by detractors provide any proof to back up the claims that uT is actually doing anything wrong. It's just rumours, tinfoil hat posts and bandwagons.
LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh
The fact of the matter is we are just letting you guys know our reasons for banning utorrent 1.7+, you can still use it if you want. Our reasons are ours weather we have access to more information or "hard proof" doesn't really matter, we banned it on our sites because of what we know, other sites with similar information are doing the same. Why are we banning it? To protect our users and our sites.
It's as simple as that, you can continue using it as long as you want, you just might not be able to do it on a bunch of private trackers. If you don't use the sites that are banning it then don't worry about it! :cool:
I only came in here to explain why sites are banning it and to warn the users not to use it. You can believe that we have our reasons for doing it or not, I really don't care anymore. I've gave enough reasons not to use the client, I'm not going to play with the ignorant and keep explaining. Happy Torrenting! I'm out! ;)
@willy101 - Thats the post on the DH forums that I'm representing, I posted it earlier a few pages back.
I don't know where people get the impressino that Bram were an "evil" guy - he really isn't. As someone who's been a member of the BitTorrent developer team and who designed the previous BitTorrent logo as well as the previous BitTorrent web site (before BitTorrent Inc. was founded and took over the project), I had a few longer chat sessions with Bram, in which we talked about personal histories and exchanged social-political views. From what I can tell, for a guy who's trying to make a business, Bram is as nice as you can get - even less evil than Google, I'd say. ;)
PS: In case anyone wonders, I never had nor currently have a business relationship with Bram, BitTorrent Inc., or any other entity involved with BitTorrent. The works I did for the BitTorrent project was for free.
I have now edited this post, as I have now had a chance to test 1.7.1 myself, and can find no evidence to backup the claim that this version reports anything to anyone.
The temp ban has now been lifted on my site.
One wireshark log coming right up.Quote:
You could also spin that round and say theres no hard evidence to discredit that it's not a reporting tool either.
http://depthstrike.com/~dwknight/wir...-utorrent.pcap
Not one of the IP addresses in the above post came up during the capture.
Personally, DWK... the line I found the funniest in all of this was "we banned it on our sites because of what we know"...
Which logically means, they've banned it for absolutely nothing...
-- Smoovious
I hate when people muddy the waters by pretending there's two sides to a story when there's not.
1) First of all, note that of the most respected and skilled torrent admins and coders: djGrrr, Retro, Zlo, even Oink/TMT, none of them spout this bullshit about uTorrent being spyware.
2) Firon, a developer for uTorrent, is also an admin on HDBits, where uTorrent is obviously a recommended client. I eagerly await ACiD's "proof" that HDBits is simply a front for the MPAA.
3) The fact that these people are using PG2 to prove their point ought to be self-discrediting. Using PG2 at all is generally a sure sign of incompetence.
4) Examine their conspiracy theory for a second: According to them, instead of the MPAA going after the hundreds of thousands of people openly publishing their IPs by using public trackers, the MPAA decided it would be simpler and more cost-effective to redesign a client for the purpose of ... mining IPs.
As sk0t found out, when the MPAA is after your site, you'll know about it.
im using it and its great it has a PM button straight to the CIA
:w00t::D It rats itself out!!! So you or your ISP don't have too!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Green_Thumb
But really 1.6 will eventually become a relic.
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Originally Posted by HairbauttReason?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
Hope they will lift the ban cause I lost my copy of v1.6.1 :dabs:
Here's a copy of 1.6.1 :
http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=utorrent
Cool I'm still using 1.6.1.
I won't bother to upgrade.
I've now had a chance to test 1.7.1 for myself, I've just sat for hours on end watching wireshark (thrilling) I can now say that I have no worries about lifting the temp ban on 1.7.1 on my site. I have also sent out a pm to all members stating this as well. I don't know where the source of this information came from that it was a reporting tool for the MPAA, but as far as I can see it's complete bullshit http://forum.utorrent.com/img/smilies/smile.png
I'll be the first to admit that I did ban it last night until I had the chance to discredit the allegations, but that was purely a precautionary measure.
Normal service has resumed and µtorrent is back to the primary download client on my site http://forum.utorrent.com/img/smilies/smile.png
Funny so many newcomers support 1.7.1 ... Makes me wonder..
Anyway do whatever you want, the ppl told what they think/know and shared their thoughts with us.. act at your own risk now ;)
If you think I'm a newcomer I think you should have checked my profile first. Just cos I don't post a lot on here, don't mean I'm a n00b :lol:
Join Date: 09-14-06
Infact I've been here longer than you
Join Date: 10-21-06 <<<< your signup date :lol:
Just cos I don't spam the crap out of every thread don't mean I'm not active here
<3 1.6.1. Until death do us apart..!
I tried 1.7.1 too and it was working just fine but it's not allowed everywhere...!
Thx peat i had forgotten to back it up :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by peat mossQuote:
Originally Posted by Hairbautt
Here's a copy of 1.6.1 :
http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=utorrent
i couldn't use BitmeTV / SCT and i had to dowload Azureus :O
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Originally Posted by iNSOMNiAThx peat i had forgotten to back it up :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by peat moss
i couldn't use BitmeTV / SCT and i had to dowload Azureus :O
Hey no problem but the OP had a link I did n't see at first to 1.6.1 build 490 :
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=19865
It look like that 1.7.1 is secure to use, judging by HDBits admins.
I don't think there's a problem with it, most of the sites will aprove it in the next few days
Having pooblems alraedy, sT won't load up torrents here, Revert abck to V1.61, works perfectly.also, my DSL connection keeps breaking up and Reconnecting with V1.71
Hmmm, someone posted a redirect in the News Section. Good stuff, too.
Check here for more: Utorrent 1.7 and above security in question! Check your trackers!
And merged topics. Oh.
Most torrent sites are banning the new update by uTorrent. Too bad they were taken over by Bittorent...:cry: Now have to switch to Azureus for the meantime
Iam usin it without any prob!!
1.7.2 came out a few days ago. The security hole is patched and most trackers should start unbanning it now.
using 1.5 and having no probs at all :D
I noticed PG2 has updated their blocklists to say "Bittorrent Inc" instead of that Swift w/e...
Anyways...It blocks it every so often on port 6881. I have automatic updates disabled, too. :dabs:
i'm migrating to azureus 2.5 ... any one else?
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Originally Posted by Roark
Fair point.
-bd
I see the paranoid knobjockeys @ bitmetv.org have still to unban utorrent 1.7.2.
...tossers!
utorrent 1.6 is the best.
I highly doubt theres any kind of snooping built into this new version, even so i went back to 1.6... just in case lol
Way to back up your convictions there, pbjabba... .. .
-- Smoovious
@ACiD
Read all 12 f'n pages of this post and the whole BitTorrent Inc/Viacom thing makes my palms sweat! Right or wrong, you make interesting points. Better safe than sorry these days. I'm downgrading 1.7.2 for 1.6.1 tonight (thanks for link peatmoss!). Curious about this Halite... checking it out asap. Anyone know if 1.6.1 supports the WebUI?