Can you people even read? This is a DIFFERENT list in terms of Content/Speed/Pretimes and NOT rarity.
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Can you people even read? This is a DIFFERENT list in terms of Content/Speed/Pretimes and NOT rarity.
I haven't really been reading this thread, but I hope that the rarity aspect of that jumbled and misinforming thread will be abolished, or at least reconsidered.
Besides, this list should make all you level whores feel good! It puts the less rare trackers way up on that list :)
This was sarcasm directed to those guys that can't read.
:lol: this is the best post in here.. you really made me laugh lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mickyman
..sigh..:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mickyman
I also think that arranging the list by genre is more useful, and then, inside each genre, by quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
And also agree with you on the foreign trackers. It's very sad to see someone complaining about 'how shitty' the tracker is because he didn't know anything about it and only got it because of its rarity.
I was thinking along the lines of this:
Edit: FST somehow insists my html is a doc???
It's a good thing. Those traders probably spent lots of time and effort to get there just to find they're not interested in content. Maybe they'll be smarter next time. I guess native users can get invite without any trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaffeine
1. it is not crapQuote:
Originally Posted by taba
2. for download purposes TL is better than FTN, for the community it's not but how many regular users signup to a torrent tracker to chat...not many imo, am not trashing FTN it's one of the greatest trackers in the world but u people should get a hold of yourselves
for people with dsl or a poor connection TL is way better than sct coz they can keep a ratio...the average joe who wants to download a movie and doesn't have atleast 5-10 mbps half an hour delay doesn't count, for busy people that don't have the time to check the tracker every 5 minutes or so neither
i hope u got my drift...so tired about the i want it because it's rare attitude
Everybody make room, it looks like the Veteran Traders have come out to play...
PF, if you don't understand the concept of a list that informs readers of trackers' real worth instead of how hard it is to gain membership, why don't you just say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Patriot foreve
What you mean to say is that trading is based on rarity for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by taba
Many members here have expressed their disdain that the WIAW thread rates trackers with less content and slower speeds higher than others with more content and faster speeds, purely because one is harder to get an account on than another.
You can't expect everyone to think the same way you do merely because you're only after the kudos that comes with a level 10 account.
I'm sorry if you find English difficult to read so I'll say that again in your native tongue...
u r only thinkin of da respec dat u get wiv an acc frm da top o da wiaw list.
dat makes u a moron.
I even typed it with your favourite crayon, too.
Chewie is funny. :)
kunny funt :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewie
:glag:Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtMajorkunny funt :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewie
Nothing is gonna please everyone, so 2 separte threads is a sensible option :whistling
OMG!!! I never realized that someone making a list based on content would make the hardcore traders humongous E-penises crumble and fall of.
Have you guys no compassion. I mean you will turn their entire world upside down. They may go into severe manic depression if you go through with this!!!
It shits me how traders have brought this site down so much, and what annoys me even more is they have forced a lot of people away due to frustration, some who i had become great friends with over the last 2 years.
This really is a step in the right direction. There is another Invite trader webpage which has basically taken this approach and has cut out all trading.
Please do not PM me asking what this other site is as it can not be mentioned here, not even via PM.
what i can really see is bunch of Anti-Traders who wanna things tehre way no matter what it can be applied or not
your are going to put for example TL in same league with FTN and ofc it's impossible that someone will exchange his FTN invite for a TL due to the difefrence and strict in the invites systems of both trackers even if they both have nearly same content or speeds
your are dreaming if you think that someone who got an invite to SCT for example will exchange it for arenabg which is open signups as this makes no sense
you wanna a reliable thread then make athread for content like Corey's old one and it can be used as arefernce although i think current reviews is already covering that but it can be more detailed and then we will see how it will be doing but trying to decieve some members by putting TL with FTN where you know that no one will follow that and just create more chaos in here while the main reason is to simply create problems for those who want to exchange their invites with otheres where they can makeup their mind by using the content ranking and the reviews
you know what i really like about Anti-Traders is that they are pretty organized and reply as whole especially those whose part of some groups and i really admire that allowing you to present your strategy in a solid way while most members won't really care about such threads
i dont mean the idea is crapQuote:
Originally Posted by pECi1. it is not crapQuote:
Originally Posted by taba
2. for download purposes TL is better than FTN, for the community it's not but how many regular users signup to a torrent tracker to chat...not many imo, am not trashing FTN it's one of the greatest trackers in the world but u people should get a hold of yourselves
for people with dsl or a poor connection TL is way better than sct coz they can keep a ratio...the average joe who wants to download a movie and doesn't have atleast 5-10 mbps half an hour delay doesn't count, for busy people that don't have the time to check the tracker every 5 minutes or so neither
i hope u got my drift...so tired about the i want it because it's rare attitude
i mean the idea of making another topic with that system is bullshit.... the consederation ofthe content is already taken as a way of ranking just
* Trackers now have ratings from 1 to 10 in the [#] tags.
* This is based on Content and Speed and Pre-Times.
also gender is taken just read the wiaw guide and u will get it
any othe info u want u will find it in the tracker review and if u want to add somethin just pm the review maker or a mod and he will edit it if it is worthy (like my review about NB they added IRC)
so now our own FSTers topic that was made our own posts and ideas for more than a year is perfect
u want to add somethin to it share us the idea but we will not replace it with already predone ideas given by some new noobs or antitraders
btw check my profile am 5m away from my last trade but i will never sell my soul like some did and do now trien to ruin this place
and they say we want to clean it.........after 2m here and he says i wanna clean it:frusty: just take a look who is the junk here
i remember the days when FTN was possible to obtain with TL simply because you earned trust and made friends.
*sigh*
i couldn't agree more ,The new system is pure crap if its' done that way because some Anti-Traders think that they are more superior to others ,i have already retired and i could personally care less but the system you have in mind is just what i can call insanity so i am standing against it unless you have some good ideas to talk about but re-inventing asystem which is afailure and main purpose only to create confusion to various members regarding their memberships of some trackers is non-senseQuote:
Originally Posted by taba
That technique is still possible even nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Force
Not again this thread become anti and pro traders Thread...
Until we do not implement it we can't see the outcome. I suggest that lets try the new ranking system and see what will happen. All of us want to change what is happening now, so why not try some ideas that might help obtaining it....:)
so true you want to take it or leave itQuote:
Originally Posted by tabawat is that crap supposed to meanQuote:
Originally Posted by jr56
all wat u said is found in the already done ranking and in the reviews ...all wat u want to do is to convince the noobs that TL equals sct and ftn
and that is crazy
tradin is all about rarity u want to believe or not it is all ur problem
u want some anti trade so say it in public and dont manipulate like that
it wont change how its
its all about rarity it was that and will be that forever
so dont bother try change it
bat FTN iz rair :ph34r:Quote:
Originally Posted by th0r
look guys I can see that a lot of people are threatened by the talk of the new ratings thread (not what invites are worth thanks) but really if you don't like it don't participate pretty simple really ;)
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btw it's not all about rarity FFS it's about content/community who gives a stuff how rare a tracker is.
I think it should either merge with the existing WIAW thread, in a completely seperate section of it, and have the thread renamed, OR, a completely different thread.
And sear is right, NO ONE is going to trade FTN for TL, BUT, this isn't a list about rarity at all.
And again, I'd gladly maintain it. :)
"Retired trader" self-horn-tooter mostly de facto equals "I crawled my way up the top of the pile before you got here, so to hell with today's plebs" mentality.
I'm neither overly pro nor anti-trader, I'm simply satisfied with where I am and have a mostly clean conscience about how I got here. Having said that, my favorite and most used trackers rank 3, 4 and 6 in the WIAW thread though I have a number of much higher ranked trackers.
I'm pretty sure this list wasn't created to increase invite trading so it should be it's own seperate entity. I like others prefer a list where unessential things like rarity can be taken out and the tracker can be judged for it's true worth with things like content and speed.
So I guess the anti-traders are the democrats and the pro-traders are the republicans...LOL
I guess I'm a independent:)
It seems clear that ever since the WIAW Thread came about many people are out for the highest bider and that sickens me.
should we ban trading..no
there are ways to trade that don't involve this cut neck mentality.
before this WIAW thread it was easy for me to climb the ladder and to get better and better sites.
now a days I believe it is harder because people read WIAW like it's the fucking bible.
the solution is simple. Revamp the WIAW thread like skizo's example! pure and simple.
not for anti-traders. Not for pro-traders but because it would improve not only the invites section but the community.
We have to assassinate Patriot foreve :)
Amen bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gish
No-one is out to ban trading, it just ain't going to happen. But what we can do is change perception of trackers and help users to get what they want/need based on a new philosophy. Like the oil tanker turning round, it is going to take a long time, nothing is going to change overnight.
The WAIW thread was prob done with good intentions, for which I applaud PF for putting all the effort into it, but it has created a monster, and that monster has had its day, it needs revamping to go into a new direction.
We all know no-one is going to trade a TL for an FTN, and the rarity of a tracker can stay, my idea is to incorporate it into the current thread as a bold black number, what we are aiming to do is to remove the pyramid scheme of trading for trading sake just to reach the top, with that removed, people can carry on trading if they wish, just that there will be no easily viewable pyramid to strive to climb.
The WIAW was the very first attempt to even out things, maybe it is now time just to have a look at other options and other ways to present things?
That's precisely the problem. You n00bs take the list as gospel. :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by mickyman
Don't tease me. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
I don't know why some traders don't want to implement this new ranking system.. This will not affect them and also this is not for trading purposes. This new ranking system will just give some newbie and maybe also old members another perspective what really the tracker is, based on content/Speed/Categories.:)
You guys are going to love this thing when I'm done. I've completely abandoned the original attempt and have this crazy hybrid thread going..... freakin tons of work though. :wacko:
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Originally Posted by kirktrix
u still sayin the same words ...so i will say my words again
wat is the damn point to b added if we make another thread about that new bluffy ranking while the already written wiaw thread have
u just read the guide look at the reviews made by TRADERS and u will get that all content/Speed/Categories no review ever hasnt commented on such points
WHY TO MAKE A NEW THREAD WITH THE SAME IDEAS ALREADY DONE AGES AGO? by ppl certainly older more experties and more loyal to the community here
Typing in bigger and even more colourful fonts doesn't make it true ;)
A lot of hard work has gone into the WAIW thread no one is doubting that, we just want to try something new. What's wrong with that? Some of us just feel it's time to take the focus off the rarity, that's all.
1. This is a bit different mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by taba
2. That's offensive. If you're truly 24 then I've got a few years on you, and WTF do you know about my experience or loyalties or for that matter anyone else who's posted in this thread?
It isn't like the WIAW thread is going to be taken down, because it isn't. The information contained therein is valid and useful.
This new thread will bring some balance to why people trade or request a particular invite though.
Exactly so where is the big deal? Cant everyone agree that they are sick of noobs constantly seeking SCT and FST when they TL would do them fine! Half the time i don't even think they would have the connections to keep up on these sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
All this new thread would be doing is putting things in perspective. So we don't get stupid thread all the time.
Couldn't have said it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by G-ForceExactly so where is the big deal? Cant everyone agree that they are sick of noobs constantly seeking SCT and FST when they TL would do them fine! Half the time i don't even think they would have the connections to keep up on these sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
All this new thread would be doing is putting things in perspective. So we don't get stupid thread all the time.
I'm sure there will be plenty of older members who ignore this thread, but hopefully the newer members who have no preconceived notions will view the two threads with some equality.
it is clear that the dicission is already madeQuote:
Originally Posted by SkizoCouldn't have said it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Force
I'm sure there will be plenty of older members who ignore this thread, but hopefully the newer members who have no preconceived notions will view the two threads with some equality.
so it is of no benifit that i discuss anymore
go and kill traders as far as they are very idiots and didnt say a word here
but watever u do it will b foreve about RARITY .... it is about man kind instincts to chase wat is far and beyond his own grasp
even if he know it is sucks he will run after it
Of course but people need to understand they can have a SCT with 1000 invites but if they dont have the connection or the nno how it will be useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by tabait is clear that the dicission is already madeQuote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
so it is of no benifit that i discuss anymore
go and kill traders as far as they are very idiots and didnt say a word here
but watever u do it will b foreve about RARITY .... it is about man kind instincts to chase wat is far and beyond his own grasp
even if he know it is sucks he will run after it
BTW I just called the police, you just murdered the queens language.
[quote=G-Force;2305437]Quote:
Originally Posted by taba
it sucks anyway
very poor language...killed everyday on the US tv shows
btw when your position is weak in a discussion dont go around so clear like that stay with the main topic of the discussion
[QUOTE=taba;2305440]Our language sucks? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Force
I know you are but what am I?
An all-time classic comeback from the witless moron.
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If anyone wants to help me with this masterpiece, I need the following information from the following trackers. most of the reviews are out of date and I want current info.
I don't need screenshots either, just the info.
Torrents
Peers
Seed/Leecher Ratio
- Filelist
- Filezone
- FB
- HeavenTracker
- iPlay
- NB
- PiSexy
- PT
- PotUK
- RevTT
- rSR
- TauriTracker
- TD
- Tbits
- TB
- TTi
- Bitme
- Bitspyder
- docs.torrents.ro
- ElbitZ
- eXbits
- LearnBits
- TheVault
- Audionews
- IT
- MP3 Nerds
- MusicVids
- OiNK
- BT Music
- ST Music
- TT
- Tribal Mixes
- VIP Music
- Empornium
- PB
- HD Source
- BiT-HDTV
- BitmeTV
- Cinematik
- DigitalHive
- HorrorCharnel
- KG
- S.I.T.R.
- TV-Junkies
- tv.torrents.ro
- SweDVDR
- DVD Club
- BitHQ
- ExtremeBits
- SportBit
- TS
- ChristianTorrents
- ThePokerBay
- GFXNews
:dabs:
You gotta love the way the Vets trot out the same old bullshit all the time, bleating about rarity being everything.
There are many members that are unhappy with the WIAW thread and want something that they can use to easily see which trackers are best based on content. Accept that and let it be.
Even better, go back to the VTG and get back to stroking each others' egos.