Why ask for Ratio proof?

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Originally Posted by prasadah

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staff cannot find cheaters....I challenge .....and i wonder how do you think cheaters using the same old script from your "back-in-the-day"'s
users are more smarter than staffs according to my research....

I know how to rebuild Utorrent 1.7.6
how does it sounds???

In my simple words
I know how to rebuild utorrent 1.7.6
and there are people already using rebuilded AZuerus

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Thanks for this info with comments like this I highly doubt that you will be getting an invite around here since you are basically condoning cheating on a site because you could so why should you have to share right.

I am sorry if there is a misunderstanding but your past few posts don't give me any confidence in ever filling a request you make and just realize that it only take getting caught cheating once to lose a bunch of sites if it gets reported to the BT community staff.

that is also a flaw happens here
cos they will put the photoshoped screenshot or edited scrip SS or they will provide u the ratio cheated profile link

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Originally Posted by prasadah

that is also a flaw happens here
cos they will put the photoshoped screenshot or edited scrip SS or they will provide u the ratio cheated profile link

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I think you are trying to make some valid points.
But you're lack of fluently in engish is really crushing those points. And due to the topic at hand, making you look like a cheater.

Besides, this thread is about doctored screens, not hacked clients. If we start going in several directions, everyone will get lost.

wow, that's nice. This is a simple, but perfect photoshop picture.

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Originally Posted by DKre8ive1

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Originally Posted by prasadah

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staff cannot find cheaters....I challenge .....and i wonder how do you think cheaters using the same old script from your "back-in-the-day"'s
users are more smarter than staffs according to my research....

I know how to rebuild Utorrent 1.7.6
how does it sounds???

In my simple words
I know how to rebuild utorrent 1.7.6
and there are people already using rebuilded AZuerus

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Thanks for this info with comments like this I highly doubt that you will be getting an invite around here since you are basically condoning cheating on a site because you could so why should you have to share right.

I am sorry if there is a misunderstanding but your past few posts don't give me any confidence in ever filling a request you make and just realize that it only take getting caught cheating once to lose a bunch of sites if it gets reported to the BT community staff.

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i really need more than hour to understand your standard english....english is not my native....also read my prev posts
just to highlight points a cheater asks here invite by providing photoshped SS or ratio cheated profile link so it is impossible to find you tht who is providing real or unreal proofs.....he will also try to create multiple accs.in trackers.....
as well in FST.....with having dynamic ips.....
are you going to complaint on cheater to bt mod....if so what he can do?? bt mod will search for cheater request threads and inform to the respective trackers that he is a cheater....so if the admin of the tracker is n00b he will blindly bann him(cheater) otherwise he will check or moderate on his acc wether he is cheating or not...and defntly he will not be cheating cos cheaters never request invites openly...if they want to ask invite openly... as i already said in my prev posts he will be having 3 kind of accs ie. good bad and neutral
he will ask invite in open thread by his good account....and he will not cheat on that acc and he will wait for to become PU and he will invite himself and starts cheating from multple acc....he will ask invite by bad accounts by sending private messg....he will cheat an acc which he got invite by requesting from bad account.....as i already said there no need to spend whole life time to maintain multiple accounts......

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Originally Posted by Broken

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Originally Posted by prasadah

that is also a flaw happens here
cos they will put the photoshoped screenshot or edited scrip SS or they will provide u the ratio cheated profile link

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I think you are trying to make some valid points.
But you're lack of fluently in engish is really crushing those points. And due to the topic at hand, making you look like a cheater.

Besides, this thread is about doctored screens, not hacked clients. If we start going in several directions, everyone will get lost.

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I know every one get doubt on me that i am cheater.....but thats not fact and also i donot want to get certificate from people that i am honest....thats all inside me.....and you are saying Besides, this thread is about doctored screens, not hacked clients. If we start going in several directions, everyone will get lost
but you created this thread by this title Why ask for Ratio proof
that is why my answer is no need to provide screen shots cos you cant identify them....so you may get a question if you invite a trusted and old member...to answer that.... read my reply to DKre8ive1;

@prasadah

Why are you pretending to write in bad English. People from your country with your kind of skill DO NOT WRITE in bad English; unless you do not want people to know the real you.

@prasadah

Hes made it more then clear that he welcomes cheating. You ruined your credibility buddy. I just hope you stop posting things relating to how to cheat. It makes us all look bad. Even the good members. This thread was intended to raise the question on why you should ask for ratio proof when certain individuals could just post up fake screenshots.

nothing like that
i just wanted to give reply to people who decided that not to ask screen shots instead they shud ask profile links from trackers or sending PM.....
so my point is....... that method also dont work cos still you will invite a cheater...you can alos fake the speedtest.net you can also fake the utorrent bar etc etc..and i thnk this wud be my last reply to this thread

how did u do it? :D i want a tutorial ;)

I just noticed that I went off topic so let me state my view on this which is ratio proofs dont mean nothing to me since like it probably already been said it real easy to rent a box and buffer your ratios or you could do it by cheating and not getting caught.

To be honest I have never yet used them to choose who I invite and I've had a pretty high success rate with the people I invited. I mean asking them to pm you from the site they claim they are on or you sending them a pm on that site is a pretty good way to do things, but I would also suggest looking at there post history here to help you make a decision.

My motto is "Its not the quantity of members I invite its about the quality of members I invite."

This guy makea a few valid points if you take a second to understand what he is saying. He says even if you ask for the link to the profile, they will have cheated on the account, thusly producing a good ratio, which is not photoshopped.

But back to this source code editing, with php, there is some much you can do even without skill. Just run it off a editing softwares and its like using word, this really does make me wonder about these ratio shots. You could really give users bad names with this kind of techniques. Damn you Nekohdot for opening my eyes to the horrors of the torrenting world ;)

The way he is talking though.

Every cheater is Einstein and every staffer on a tracker is thick as pig shit.

On BCG we do have scripts, we have a hell of a lot behind the scenes scripts going on, not all of it is auto as some things can be misconstrued as cheating, so its best for the human eye to look at those.

Now im not saying that we do not have any cheats, as that just isnt true, but if everyone on the tracker did cheat as you tend to imply then the tracker would very much be dead in the water, as no one would upload anything to anyone else.

Cheating is a problem, but i honestly dont think its as widespread as you claim it to be, you still do get very stupid cheaters who are easy to catch.

and yes i am the owner, im just not sure if i want CR (the stars) yet.

as for the pics and getting people into the tracker, its like everything in life, Do so at your own risk, if it goes pearshaped, dont come crying to the staff.

People ask RatioProofs, than if they think it's a litle bit anormal, they ask URL link, and they will see if it matches.
Even if you have a positive ratio, people will be abler to check if it was possible in a few minutes, than they'll know.
And when people are smart ask Profile Prints Ratio Proofs. Like I do.

Other way, only a few are good samming in Photoshop.

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Originally Posted by stoi

The way he is talking though.

Every cheater is Einstein and every staffer on a tracker is thick as pig shit.


Now im not saying that we do not have any cheats, as that just isnt true, but if everyone on the tracker did cheat as you tend to imply then the tracker would very much be dead in the water, as no one would upload anything to anyone else.

Cheating is a problem, but i honestly dont think its as widespread as you claim it to be, you still do get very stupid cheaters who are easy to catch.

staff.

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Dude I am not saying cheater is Einsten and also I know very few cheaters are there in all trackers...my point is.... there is a chance to cheat by also ratio spoofing method along with photoshop technique....thats all!!

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Originally Posted by pandabear

This guy makea a few valid points if you take a second to understand what he is saying. He says even if you ask for the link to the profile, they will have cheated on the account, thusly producing a good ratio, which is not photoshopped.

;)

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atleast one understood me :)

What i said on the 1st page of this thread

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Originally Posted by stoi

not only is it easy to fake a ratio pic, but what makes a member with a huge buffer a good user.

3 scenarios to follow.

1: They could have just got the account in a trade and it already had a huge buffer on it, and they are just using it to get higher up the ladder.

2: They might beg/borrow/steal a seedbox for a bit, get most of the upload on 1 torrent over 1-2 days, but have a history of 20 torrents where the rest of the torrents are way under a 1 ratio.

3: They might be a very careful cheat, so its really hard to spot for the tracker.

that to me is just some of the disadvantages of not only asking for ratio proof, but also trading/giving away invites.

What the best way to do it is though, i have no idea as i dont do giveaway or trade.

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so tell us something we dont know, we dont need to know that members can cheat, we already know that, but your posts were implying that it was an epidemic, which i can assure you its not, yes its a problem, but not as widespread a problem as your making it out to be.

Unless its just your lack of English that is making it come accross that way.

i am not saying its an epidemic
all of them in this thread started deciding that they shud ask account link to verify the ratio....so i said for those who use the photoshop technique will be also familiar with ratio spoofing technique....so its not wide spreaded its only in the frame of cheaters....
photoshop technique is also not epidemic

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Originally Posted by prasadah

i am not saying its an epidemic
all of them in this thread started deciding that they shud ask account link to verify the ratio....so i said for those who use the photoshop technique will be also familiar with ratio spoofing technique....so its not wide spreaded its only in the frame of cheaters....
photoshop technique is also not epidemic

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i feel your frustration , i have written threads , and people read and go off on a different tangent to what you intended.

and you find your self reading the replies and screwing your face up thinking Whaaaat ?


as for your point on there being an open door to fooling people , i agree , there is if you take these screenshots as gospel.

I think with Low level trackers it don't really matter , because why would someone with photoshop skill waste there time getting low level trackers, but for more higher level , just take the screen shot as ONE piece of the puzzle to summing up who you are dealing with.

Speeds tests helps 2 :P

speedtests don't help any.... what do they say?? nothing.. thats what... all they prove is whether or not someone has a seedbox... cause a lot of people strive to get tests off their boxes these days... forget about real speed.. lol

so, the speedtests are absolutely false and worthless as can be..

as was said... if you really feel the need to investigate someone before giving.. ask for actual profile links..... and see'em for yourself... and thats not 100%.. only ther thing is to know the person well before giving..

other than this you don't have anyway of knowing for sure whom your giving to.. it's always a risk... hell i've been burnt by peeps i know IRL before.. so... take it for what its worth.. and use good judgement, thats all

well after you see some prints you can ask for him profile nick in the tracker and check yourself and, ask him too for send you a pm there so its solved no liars.

giveaway could be for good users here and not ask only for ratio, buffer etc. stoi said that already too.

prasadah, you sound like you've had a go with cheating clients on quite a lot of trackers. And this has nothing to do with your english.

This thread should be stickied - some good ideas and thoughts...but before it descends into chaos though lol

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Originally Posted by DKre8ive1

To be honest I have never yet used them to choose who I invite and I've had a pretty high success rate with the people I invited. I mean asking them to pm you from the site they claim they are on or you sending them a pm on that site is a pretty good way to do things, but I would also suggest looking at there post history here to help you make a decision.

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Errmm, that's the best way to check BUT ONLY if you have access to their tracker(s). What would you do if you can not log into their site(s) ? I think that's what the thread starter means.

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Originally Posted by F3n1x

well after you see some prints you can ask for him profile nick in the tracker and check yourself and, ask him too for send you a pm there so its solved no liars.

giveaway could be for good users here and not ask only for ratio, buffer etc. stoi said that already too.

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oh MY gOd
WhAt kInD oF pErsON YOu are!!! :blink:
I know you did not read any other posts except 1st page's

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Originally Posted by Vercors

prasadah, you sound like you've had a go with cheating clients on quite a lot of trackers. And this has nothing to do with your english.

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tell some thing related to this thread....
I dont want any certificates that I am honest

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Originally Posted by kadake

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Originally Posted by prasadah

i am not saying its an epidemic
all of them in this thread started deciding that they shud ask account link to verify the ratio....so i said for those who use the photoshop technique will be also familiar with ratio spoofing technique....so its not wide spreaded its only in the frame of cheaters....
photoshop technique is also not epidemic

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i feel your frustration , i have written threads , and people read and go off on a different tangent to what you intended.

and you find your self reading the replies and screwing your face up thinking Whaaaat ?


as for your point on there being an open door to fooling people , i agree , there is if you take these screenshots as gospel.

I think with Low level trackers it don't really matter , because why would someone with photoshop skill waste there time getting low level trackers, but for more higher level , just take the screen shot as ONE piece of the puzzle to summing up who you are dealing with.

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what is the point there actually?? :wacko:

Like I said before, it's pretty easy to tell from someone's posting history and someone's personality what kind of person they will be on a tracker. Ratio proofs are redundant and unnecessary, and can, obviously, be easily faked.

lol this could be a funny picture thread.

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Originally Posted by krunktastic

Like I said before, it's pretty easy to tell from someone's posting history and someone's personality what kind of person they will be on a tracker. Ratio proofs are redundant and unnecessary, and can, obviously, be easily faked.

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as i said already they will be having 3 accounts good bad and neutral

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Originally Posted by zaa730

lol this could be a funny picture thread.

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yes dude now i realized :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by prasadah

as i said already they will be having 3 accounts good bad and neutral

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Originally Posted by zaa730

lol this could be a funny picture thread.

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yes dude now i realized :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Yeah, but either way, things are more thorough than a quick glance. And not everyone has three accounts.

not every one has three accounts and i agree with that...
but cheaters have 3 accounts :lol::lol:

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Originally Posted by prasadah

not every one has three accounts and i agree with that...
but cheaters have 3 accounts :lol::lol:

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Innocent until proven guilty imo.

Problem is, here, everyone is guilty until proven innocent.

intresting points, but couldn't you give out a username that isn't yours?

Or you could avoid all these risks and invite only people you know.

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Originally Posted by pandabear

Or you could avoid all these risks and invite only people you know.

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true that.

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Originally Posted by zaa730

lol this could be a funny picture thread.

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http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9028/rulesgt2.jpg
:D

found a link on from other site... seems its fake, isn't it!!!

http://tinyurl.com/6pz5l3

ask them for the profile link
then ask them to pm you from that account

You shitting me right? You can see thats fake from 100 miles. Just compare ratio font and downloaded font.

i ask for links to their profiles if im going to invite anyone. anyone who really trusts screenshots just hasnt been around long enough to get screwed over by an invitee or are too stupid to learn from that.

The way I used to do it is this.

I Asked for a screenshot of their client with what they are sharing, showing the uploaded/downloaded amount and the torrents. I also would look at people's post history. Of course that could also be done with photoshop but that's how I used to do it for giveaways. Of course after I got burned with BitmeTV, I stopped doing giveaways.

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Originally Posted by Broken

Anyone could just photoshop any ratio they wanted onto any pic they get ahold of.

IE



This was done in under a minute.

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http://i25.tinypic.com/2cy4k8w.gif
yeah and it looks like shit. the ratio value has a completely different font. If anybody sent me a ratio proof like that I would make a topic about how fucking funny it is :P