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Obviously anything which is an item of dogma within a specific religion is by definition non-negotiable. However there are also areas of theological uncertainty. These areas however cannot by definition parts of the central beliefs of that religion, that just wouldn't make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
Obviously life is full of grey areas if one is looking at things objectively. However, if one becomes say a Baptist the other members might look askance if you say "obviously I don't believe in a literal God" That point is non-negotiable as far as they are concerned. In some churches Noah's Ark, talking snakes and fruit that confers knowledge of good and evil are also non-negotiable. However there is always the CofE bless :)Quote:
Originally Posted by manicgeek
Me for example, I'm not particularly concerned about much of the Old Testament. I'm more interested in the New Testament and in particular the teachings of Christ. To me that's what being a Christian means.
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Originally Posted by Mr JP FugleySome of it's pish but it's what it teaches ewe that matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
fixed.summarized.
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Keep Scotland out of this :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by manicgeek
More "some of it's meh" but your way of putting it was better.
So when do you want the holy wars to commence ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Squeamous
Well, hopefully not for the next couple of hours because I've got the dinner on.Quote:
Originally Posted by manicgeekSo when do you want the holy wars to commence ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Squeamous
I'm not sure it's possible to keep the cause of all trouble out of any argument ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BigglesKeep Scotland out of this :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by manicgeek
And it says in your belief system that holy wars cannot be fought through dinner time does it :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Squeamous
Bored now.....
Fair point well presented.Quote:
Originally Posted by manicgeekI'm not sure it's possible to keep the cause of all trouble out of any argument ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
I vote the Holy War is put off till better weather though.
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Originally Posted by Squeamous
Now if we could bottle that and send it out to the ME :shifty:
may be i donīt care
That comment really wasn't worth pressing my mouse button for. Or writing this for that matter :dry:.
I'd be upset by this comment but unfortunately it's completely accurate :emo:Quote:
Originally Posted by callumMight be balamm you're thinking of. It took babrbie a name change and several years, before anyone noticed his posts like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snee
It's better than being mixed up with The :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper Boh4r5h :glagpinch:Quote:
Originally Posted by Snee
He only made me an admin because I said I'd sort out the rude word filter. True Story :smilie4:Quote:
Originally Posted by SneeGood point, I was like "what? Who's this then?" when he started running cheese's interwebs forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by callum
http://wagonized.typepad.com/wagoniz...tte_4_blog.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by BarbarossaI'd be upset by this comment but unfortunately it's completely accurate :emo:Quote:
Originally Posted by callum
It's better than being mixed up with The :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper Boh4r5h :glagpinch:Quote:
Originally Posted by Snee
All the best people are doing it? What a joke. Do you define Mr. Blair as one of the best people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP FugleyIf you don't already know the answers to these questions you have already proven yourself not worthy of discussing anything with. This isn't America like, simple minded people do not attend said "school" and go on to become Barristers simply by belonging to a rich family. They attend a polytechnic and go on to become an Accountant.Quote:
Originally Posted by nioin3k
Perhaps you are just ignorant and uneducated. Have you considered formal religion as a lifestyle choice. All of the best people are doing it.
Like I said, believe in God or not. Support religion or not. That's a matter for everyone. However your suggestion that only the ignorant and uneducated are religious is frankly mentalist.
Show me where I said that only the ignorant and uneducated are religious. I simply implied that many of them are, and it's true.
Why are you twisting my words? Why wont you reply to all of my comments and not just the ones you want to reply to?
You don't agree that religion can be used to relate to the people, and thus win popularity contests?
You don't agree that religion has killed millions of people, and has no positive purpose that can't be accomplished without it?
You don't agree that governments use, or at the very least have used religion as a way to control people?
You're welcome to cease your discussion with me, but I hope you'll bless me with your response.
Indeed.
You're a bigot and an idiot.
I assume you're referring to me?Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
Do you know the definition of those words?
no but im sure were gonna blame you for everything anyways.
Maybe I'm paranoid.
Go ahead and blame me, lol.
It takes a very special kind of idiot to not know I was referring to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by nioin3kI assume you're referring to me?Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
Do you know the definition of those words?
That's why I said I assume.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaulIt takes a very special kind of idiot to not know I was referring to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by nioin3k
Perhaps you need to add more detail to your posts if you want people to be positive.
Apparently you don't know the definition of those words, because I am not a bigot or an idiot.
Maybe you're confused.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Go look up those words, take your time, you don't want to rush that little brain of yours.
I'll be back in a few hours to read your one sentence response, I expect a few insults.
Read your own posts, you're the one who insulted people. The only reason I know you are an idiot is because you post like an idiot, so that's down to you. The only reason I know you're a bigot is because you post like a bigot, again that's down to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by nioin3kThat's why I said I assume.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
Perhaps you need to add more detail to your posts if you want people to be positive.
Apparently you don't know the definition of those words, because I am not a bigot or an idiot.
Maybe you're confused.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Go look up those words, take your time, you don't want to rush that little brain of yours.
I'll be back in a few hours to read your one sentence response, I expect a few insults.
Oh and I'll reply to what I want, in whatever manner I want, be it one line or many. You'll notice that my replies to other people who are not religious but are also intelligent and tolerant are more comprehensive. I have neither the time nor the inclination to waste my effort on bigoted idiots, so I'll bid you good day.
Ooooh, are you twirling your handlebar while you flounce, or just swooshing your skirts?
Religion doesn't deserve respect and tolerance.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaulRead your own posts, you're the one who insulted people. The only reason I know you are an idiot is because you post like an idiot, so that's down to you. The only reason I know you're a bigot is because you post like a bigot, again that's down to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by nioin3k
Oh and I'll reply to what I want, in whatever manner I want, be it one line or many. You'll notice that my replies to other people who are not religious but are also intelligent and tolerant are more comprehensive. I have neither the time nor the inclination to waste my effort on bigoted idiots, so I'll bid you good day.
Do you respect the extremists that are killing innocent people in vain? Do you tolerate their beliefs?
Religion has negative and positive effects.
The positive effects that it has can be accomplished with far more peaceful methods.
What is the point of religion?
Read the posts, idiot. I didn't ask anyone to respect God or religion. I specifically said that was a matter for the individual and was down to beliefs, to each their own. Why would I ask anyone to respect God if they don't believe She exists, or by extension religion which would then be in relation to something which doesn't exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by nioin3kReligion doesn't deserve respect and tolerance.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
More hollow insults. I don't even remember what you were talking about, nor do I care enough to check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP FugleyRead the posts, idiot. I didn't ask anyone to respect God or religion. I specifically said that was a matter for the individual and was down to beliefs, to each their own. Why would I ask anyone to respect God if they don't believe She exists, or by extension religion which would then be in relation to something which doesn't exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by nioin3k
It's going to end the same way. You're going to believe what you want to believe, because you're obstinate, and I'm going to believe what I want to believe, because I think it's the best way.
:glag: You went to all that bother just to confirm your status as board idiot and bigot.Quote:
Originally Posted by nioin3kMore hollow insults. I don't even remember what you were talking about, nor do I care enough to check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
It's going to end the same way. You're going to believe what you want to believe, because you're obstinate, and I'm going to believe what I want to believe, because I think it's the best way.
That's cute.
Particularly from someone who described billions of other people as uneducated and ignorant because they believe something different from him. It really is the most bigoted, idiotic position I've seen in ages.
Devout, proselytising Atheists are fan-tastic.
:snooty: It is bloody hard work passionately believing something isn't there. The most people can generally muster is a sort "meh whatever".....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley:glag: You went to all that bother just to confirm your status as board idiot and bigot.Quote:
Originally Posted by nioin3k
That's cute.
Particularly from someone who described billions of other people as uneducated and ignorant because they believe something different from him. It really is the most bigoted, idiotic position I've seen in ages.
Devout, proselytising Atheists are fan-tastic.
or am I confusing most people with me again :unsure:
Three religion-threads at the top of the lounge. Awesome.
:dry:
Click once, get two posts now.
Brilliant.
It's the effort chaps put into convincing me, that's what's really impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles:snooty: It is bloody hard work passionately believing something isn't there. The most people can generally muster is a sort "meh whatever".....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
or am I confusing most people with me again :unsure:
Bigot - God doesn't exist and religions is shite
Me - Fair enough, we'll each believe what we want. No worries.
Bigot - All people who are religious are ignoramuses and murdering cunts.
Me - Like I said, to each their own
Bigot - I fucking hate anyone who believes in religion they are all shite bastard cunt fucks.
Me - That's a bit harsh
Bigot - Don't insult me
:earlQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP FugleyIt's the effort chaps put into convincing me, that's what's really impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
Bigot - God doesn't exist and religions is shite
Me - Fair enough, we'll each believe what we want. No worries.
Bigot - All people who are religious are ignoramuses and murdering cunts.
Me - Like I said, to each their own
Bigot - I fucking hate anyone who believes in religion they are all shite bastard cunt fucks.
Me - That's a bit harsh
Bigot - Don't insult me
Geniousnessitude.
My stance on the whurle subject:
believe what you want or do something else.
Ewe ignorant uneducated people who believe otherwise are all morans.
see what I did there?:smilie4:
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Originally Posted by Proper Bo