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hd-unit3d
they only do 720p but their work is just amazing, considering the size of the files
ESiR
Where's Z@X?Ryan in their team does 1080p,good ones too!=)
like everyone say esir and majority give u the best answer
ESiR is the best
I think ESiR is the best for me
Okay, I've been d/l'ing a whole bunch of stuff the last month+ since I got a PCH box (fooled around with pc-based players, plug-in's, and the like for a couple months before that, to varying results), and when I first started looking around was very hyper about sizing (dvd5/9), but slowly have gravitated toward higher sizes/bitrate, DTS + multiple audio commentary tracks, etc.
But of course it's all eating up disc space at a rather atrocious rate! 5/1.5TB drives already chuck full of 'crud'! I've been trying to get quotes on a unRAID box/system for several weeks, and usually have to explain in depth to the local vendors on what it is, how to build, etc.
The other way to go is a 'standard' RAID5 array, I've got a box with a older Asus MB that will do RAID5 on 6-sata drives, and I'm thinking about that as a lower possibility. But like I noted in another thread here, many x264 encodes are just over DVD9 (or dvd6) sizes, not 'throw caution to the wind' 12-15GB ones.
But most of those in that size range are noticeably superior in picture quality to stuff well below 8GB/DVD9 sizing. The Groups? I've got several examples from lots of them, but I really like the occasional recode that has the multiple audios (commentaries). I really prefer DTS (5.1 or better), but wonder exactly why 'full-rate' 1.5mb/s rather than half-bit-rate 768Kb/s; most commercial std-def DVD's with DTS are at that rate, not the 'full' rate, and even with a top-notch audio system, I'd be hard pressed to ever hear much of a difference between the two. Lot's of bits eaten up there.
Again, from what I can see, not much of a 'standard operating procedure' from any, if at all, of these groups. Maybe I simply haven't tripped over any, but the postings seem to really run the gamut, except for those that 'specialize' in AVCHD aimed at the PS3 crowd.
For the 'best' without regard to much of anything (bit-rate, sizing, etc.) CtlHD, Esir, Cinefile, and occasionally Sinners seem to be okay. But there simply hasn't been enough examples of something were all the groups 'jump' on it, and provide enough of a differentiation between them.
Lots of the 'early' stuff (about a year or so old) seemed to have various audio/video problems. But it can probably be laid at the early software difficulties (DTS dropouts in particular).
And oh, quite a few from 'Don', add me be the 'surprised' that it isn't 'on the group list'.
A few more thoughts...
I haven't seen any 'marching orders' from any of the people/groups doing any of these postings. The wild swings in sizing/bitrate between them, even in the same 'group' release, tells me it's simply the re-coders 'preference'. Nothing like 'Replica' in the early days of DVD, that toed the line pretty strictly on 3kb/s, although it has been my opinion that 4Kb/s was a more 'reasonable' target.
A couple of the posters seem to put their target at the 10kb/s level, or thereabouts, and it does make a difference, particularly when a/b'ing the result to efforts in the sub-5k region.
I simply haven't seen a really good technical write up of where the 'slippery slope' is on x264 encodes, like there were with mpeg2 (again, in the 'early days' 10 years ago). Part of the problem may be the plethora of really bad mastering/transfer 'efforts' by some/most of the studios, or the companies they hire to do the BR discs themselves.
Of particular note alone these lines is a 'franchise' of inestimable cash cow, is the 'Bond' series (Connery through Moore through...). I was just re-reading some of the BR reviews (both from web sites and 'high-end' mags like 'Widescreen Review'), and taken as a whole, it's simply appalling. Yes, many of these titles are well over 30 years old. Yes, they've already been 'cleaned up' at least one or more times. And so now, you're going to skip that step in a mad race for a quick buck?
I find myself 'falling back' on earlier comments, that the BR 'slope' is following almost precisely the same track as DVD's followed 10 years ago. It's going to take at least another 5 years + until they really 'clean up' their act, both from the film side AND the player side. The fact that here we are over a decade into the BR era, and the almost universally regarded as the 'best' player out there is a GAMING CONSOLE!?!?!?!
Although I was a VERY early adopter in HD/digital display technologies (fed by both up-converted SD DVD's and HD satellite transmissions), I kept waiting for the BR players to get the kinks ironed out. I'm still waiting. That song 'Common Disaster' (Cowboy Junkies?) rattles through my head.
And, here's yet another 'complaint'; why oh why do a LOT of these folks, after going through the trouble of ripping the BR, jumping through the various hoops and machine grinding time, seem to REFUSE to post even a bare minimal nfo...???? Those who consistently refuse to do so.... need a headspace adjustment.
I agree with you Beck38. I wish there was some sort of top quality regulation instead of how the encoder feels at the time . I notice you didn't mention EureKA ...How did you find them? I personally rate DON,EureKA and ESiR as top .It is a shame that it does vary but really there's sod all we can do .
all the HDbits internal groups are top notch. forget scene. its only good for getting things quick. their rls rules are to sloppy for really good quality. if you are about true quality get your stuff from hdbits.
As I've not seen any ESiR rips in action I only voted EuReKa and CtrlHD, although from what I hear ESiR is up there as well. For EuReKa, they truly do seem to care about quality as well, but sometimes, IMO, they get carried away, go overboard, and totally disregard file sizes, as some releases tend to get bloated.
Hi Guys,
Care to send me invites from hdbits, biy-hdtv or scenehd? My email address is [email protected]. Will appreciate to those who will send me invites. Thanks!
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new horizont ppl from WIKi
Hi guys, as someone who has just got a Popcorn Hour and is new to this whole downloading blu-ray rips, I have to say this thread is fantastic - I have just read all 10 pages and its given me an idea of what to look out for in terms of groups, and good standards of audio and bitrates to look for in NFO's
A couple of questions I have
1. Im not a member of any of these HD Tracker sites, so I get my NZB's from various sites (not sure if I can mention them?) One of them splits its Blu Ray into 2 sections - HD Blu Ray which seem to be straight copies of Blu Ray, and HD x264 which Im guessing is what this thread relates to...groups who re-encode blurays to produce smaller files. If that is the case, will the BD25's and BD50's always be of a higher quality than files that have had to be re-encoded??
2. Is there a website which has user reviews of all releases by Rip Groups..reading this thread highlights that whilst there are some great groups who produce high quality consistently, there may be occasions when some movies are released by them which may not be of the same quality, and if there was somewhere on the net where I could read folks like you discussing individual releases, that would help those like me who probably arent sure whats what!
Thanks
ooh, also, I understand that a higher bitrate = higher quality, but can someone explain in simple terms (for idiots like me) why?
how come THORA isn't listed here? i love their anime releases!
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Originally Posted by lozkin
Welcome.
The bluray discs will be higher quality. The goal of an encode is to shrink the file size while retaining as "transparent" picture quality as possible. Scene groups also have size rules and pre race issues going on, so that means the encodes they release are not as high quality or transparent.
You can mention other nzb sites here, but they have a nice nzb index here too. Head over the Newsgroups forum where all the cool folks hang out.
I've never heard of a website like that. Your best option is to just compare nfos, try a few of the same movies from different groups and get a general idea of which you find to be acceptable or better.
Thanks for your reply :D
I remember using this site when I used to download avi's & xvids and so on
http://www.vcdq.com/index.php
I think something similar for the Blu Ray community would be helpful!
Sinners always delliver.:)
ESiR
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Yuk hate them. SecretMyth is worth the extra 0.4GB :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by zonta
They(He) does R5's too and they look amazing. I dont know what filters SecretMyth use but they're incredible.
Also Nhanc3 are alright too.
ESiR is the best out there
ESiR is the best HD encode/Rip group
they always on the top
ESiR all the way. <short>
No Wiki?
i think "wiki" is also a good Encode Group.
I usually grab ESiR rip
ESiR rips all the way!!
What do you think about WiKi? I forgot to add it in selections
I love ESiR and EuReKa...
But this new internal group FraMesToR from BIT-HDTV is sick. Their Blu-ray rips are topshelf -- very high video quality + HD audio.
I think ctrlHD
WiKi's releases have been as good as CtrlHD's and HiDt's.Quote:
Originally Posted by technodrome
CtrlHD,EuReKA and ESiR
Is it me or have DON and ESiR been quiet of late?!
ESiR fo sho
gotta go with esir right now.
Not scene.Not Eureka.
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