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Originally Posted by Menteur
Well, then somethings horribly wrong with you. How do you even manage to get banned several times?
It's like going on a date with a girl, if you do something wrong on the first date you'll learn not to do the same thing next time. But you just keep doing the same wrong thing on every date.
I'd never date you.
Think outside the box. You can do different mistakes, not the same one all over again. :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roooney
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Originally Posted by Menteur
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I noticed your profile contains a lot of fappin.Quote:
Originally Posted by n00bz0r:lol: apt for a thread like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by squirr3l
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You can fap to this thread if you want to.
its too lame to be of any use for the purpose you just mentioned.. :pinch:Quote:
Originally Posted by MenteurI noticed your profile contains a lot of fappin.Quote:
Originally Posted by n00bz0r
You can fap to this thread if you want to.
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Ratio Cheating itself does not, it is the leeching that does. Usually the leeching is counteracted by the seeding but in the case of Ratio Cheating there is generally little seeding done and it is thus counterproductive.
Even on "No Ratio" sites Ratio Cheating is counterproductive because it these sites generally function based on upload and Ratio Cheating makes a mockery of systems such as the Userclass, Invite, and Forum systems.
The general mindset of people is to contribute enough to the site to "even out" what you take. Ratio Cheating provides a means to get around that.
lol...good answer at least you're honest. I'm thinking you're either Pablo or Zaa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Menteur
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonkeyPacker
PS: This nick, and the underlying motive of choosing it, seems eerily familiar. If my brain is cooperating with me willingly, without the required dose of caffeine, welcome aboard mate!
hell yeah..he is honest!Quote:
Originally Posted by searlol...good answer at least you're honest. I'm thinking you're either Pablo or Zaa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Menteur
about multiple accounts, ratio cheating, and most importantly.. his LOVE for FST. :fst:
Since this thread,i have done some research into this stuff and came to a couple of conclusions.Ratio cheating is very much equivalent to hacking into a tracker(hard to explain,sort of like virgin conception)and if trackers don't pay attention,alot more malicious innovations are set to come out of what's already there.
Just like carding people like pablo get into this not to stay, but after uploading 500TB out of nothing on their test site <read demonoid>curiousity has the best of them and they soon choose to take their game to higher risk playing fields.Soon it becomes a trade too addictive to get out of but rather a game of conquering.So don't believe them when they tell you of a reformed ratio cheat,its a myth.
^^a ratioless tracker of 800 at time of counsel.Quote:
few leechers,but the staff are dull heads so go ahead.200kb should be fine
same place as above.Quote:
flash uploaded 15gb (10sec).4 days ago and not banned
And there were alot more similar confessions of places you wouldn't have typically been groomed to believe harbored such people.So tracker staff too i feel ought to be a little more alert or at least ditch the fossil scripts they are running for the new bling bling :P(and if its the coders who are getting rusty,then go the what.cd way and enroll them in an online college)
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ratio cheating just like the volkswagen was invented in germany.
money can buy anything,including the databases at SB and **** forumer.
vuze is the prefered torrent client by ratio cheats coz of its extensive mod capabilities(banned or least recommended at most places that am at)
I just can't figure why they are so loyal to one another.
my 2cents..
There should be a punkbuster for trackers.
I've heard about all the reasons behind this and cheating is totally wrong. I actually heard a decent excuse once that I would like to share. At one time most sites where only based on ratio. Quote, " I have to cheat to survive at this site or be banned. With all the seed boxes it makes it impossible to keep a good ratio. If I could afford a seedbox I wouldn't do this in the first place." But now most trackers have a seed for a certain period of time based on how much you've uploaded. Which in my opinion eliminates the need to cheat. I also believe that if you need to cheat at a site, then maybe the site is to much for you to handle and you should find a site like mentioned above. Example there is no way to survive on bitmetv without a seedbox, so if you don't have one simply get tvtorrents.
what do you really think is the answer to this thread?
That's not true it's possible to survive on any site without a seedbox if you're smart about how you download when you first join up. I've never used a seed box and get along fine with my slow upload speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinkerBell
Not on seedbox-only trackers. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by searThat's not true it's possible to survive on any site without a seedboxQuote:
Originally Posted by TinkerBell
No I suppose that's true though I've never actually heard of one. Have you?
When PTN was new people said it was a seedbox-only tracker, that was just hype unless it really was one in their early days.Quote:
Originally Posted by sear
But still, I heard of one. :P
Hell no. It's possible, I've never use seedbox and I don't have problems with ratio there, and some similar sites to BMTV, despite my slow connection.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinkerBell
http://www.speedtest.net/result/498159958.png
Why you say so?? You want make excuse for people who cheat because they don't have seedboxes??
On every single site it's possible to survive, without boxes and without cheating. But one thing is important: you really have to want it.
I have left my app open and seeding on a particular tracker for a whole week while I was abroad. When I came back in the country, my torrent app said I upped about 4GB per day for 7 days, which is about 28GB. The tracker, to this day, said I have uploaded 1GB and downloaded 5GB.
I'm not sure if I did a reverse cheat or wtf happened, but I still (thankfully) have not been banned, but my numbers simply do not show up anymore no matter how much I down or up.
some ppl dont survive even have seedbox lol i know a few of my friends just join the tracker when sign ups open and they downloaded crazily and when i tell about keep a good ratio hard at there they just kidding me and i said oki do what you know after that both them banned for low ratio lol cuz the tracker uploaders dont even getting 3 ratio when uploading 720p tv show(one epps like prison break) about bitmetv keep a good ratio hard cuz ever1 have a decent connection and if you notice when 850-900 ppl snatched the torrent there is 950-1000 seeders(re-seeding)Quote:
Originally Posted by TinkerBell
It was hard to survive at there when i had seedbox as well but i was filling request but one of their mod gave me a pointless warning and i stopped the filling request but it was good to make someone happy and put a smiley to them face...
After got 0-day scene tracker and free pack honestly i understood no need to bitmetv generally but it is good tracker with decent speeds...
About cheating bitmetv has a great cheater script as well maybe this is the best part of their and "staff" ...
and about topic cheating is not all about ratio or not i think cheater only think they are clever and dont want to throw out cash $ and they dont want to keep on pc 7/24 especially for seeding they are just leeching...
So yea cheating is really hurt the tracker and about cheating and ip ban(whole or a part 'range' banning) some trackers staff members banning ranges and who country cuz most ppl just talking about how to cheating on tracker on im contact and mocking about tracker and how to pass the tracker this is another story like seedbox users and e-penises...
if i were a staff member on a tracker(i already been lol ) i never banned someone only for low ratio if he/she is keeping seeding with low connection as well...
I saw a few member who keeping seeding over months the files with the low connection...
low connection is really doesntmatter if he/she will keep seed a long time how many ppl keep seeding files on seedboxes some of them just renting 1 months and after got decent ratio just hit and running then this who have low connection is helping more than a seedbox user ;-)
Another funny story is about cheaters who have seedboxes already lol i would tell about this too but look like i typed long enough for today ....
Laws are written from people with power. It's like the credit system. When you get credit money comes from nothing. They are not existant. But after you get them to buy something you pay with interest and this all goes to people that are on top of this cycle :/Quote:
Originally Posted by lysineit's injecting upload that does not exist into the system. the same thing happens when a tracker sells upload credit to users.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
one is permitted, one is not.
We are slaves to law. Nobody can tell if this is wrong or right that's for sure
I dont really know much about this sort of stuff, but really as I see it, its their tracker, tehy can tell us what to do. If they want us to download ten GB a week then so be it, tis their site, their rules, if we dont like it we dont have to use the site, no?
In my Opinion,it is unfair for the normal member
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Originally Posted by lisabritpop
There's only 1 thing 2 say....
if u use ratio cheeting I don't think u deserve 2 be a torrenter cuz u simply ignored its basic rule; SHARING!
it doesn't matter if it causes any damage 2 the tracker or not!
http://azureuswiki.com/index.php?tit...rs#Overseeding
Too much sharing (seeding) hurts users because it is unfair to newcomers. Too much cheating (leeching) hurts users because it creates poor speeds and dead torrents.
Leeching would be healthy for the tracker if it ameliorates the issues of widespread over-seeding. However, to take it upon oneself to cure the tracker of its ailment assume the rewards of doing such is extremely narcissistic.
Vigilantes should be punished, not justified. The people pay the government to represent and protect them - not you. You have an issue with the state of affairs - legislate. This is no comic book. You are no hero. Good day, kind sir.
on a specific tracker I upload 1 tb A DAY ;)
He isn't serious... OFC it does.. !!!
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Originally Posted by mievmo
tbh, no one cares..Quote:
Originally Posted by QPD
It may not hurt the tracker but it hurts the community built arround the tracker,this makes everyone have problems.
Not true!!!!!one!!one!!111oneQuote:
Originally Posted by cinephiliatbh, no one cares..Quote:
Originally Posted by QPD
You is leet! I bow to you!! :cool:
This is a hard subject. Naturally I am against cheating the ratio system. But if and how much damage it actually does is a harder question. I think we can all agree on one thing... It's morally wrong and it shows disrespect to the site the person cheats on.
Does it harm the site in other ways?
Well... If everyone would cheat our private trackers wouldn't be as good as they are.
If a person cheats let's say 5 TB on his ratio but seeds as long as the other people without using an application such as NetLimiter I would actually say... No. In that case it does no real damage. It could even encourage people into leeching torrents (Many new sites have problems with that). If they would also keep seeding for a long time - they would still handle it good. Looking at it that way, though, it's unfair for the people that actually has to work hard to get Promoted or get to the Top 10 list.
It may hurt the site. It may also profit the site.
Is it ever morally correct? No. Absolutely not.
My final saying would be, I am against ratio cheating. Don't do it. If you want a good ratio and have a lame home connection, buy a seedbox. They are not really expensive.
I don't understand why people would cheat in any way, that goes with trading, ratiocheating, dupe accounts, NetLimiter etc... What happened to "Sharing is Caring"?
I really don't understand these guys:(
I have seeded some torrents from trackers like Waffles and Bitme for over 14 weeks. As long as you don't delete the files after you are finished with it I don't see what harm it could do to just keep the torrent active for that long.
Most guys have enough HDD space to keep torrents alive for a long time.
I would suggest everyone to start using "Label" in uTorrent, it's a great way to sort your torrents. Create a label called "long seed" or something. I did that a long time ago and I've forgotten how many torrents I actually seed because of that.
IMO ratiocheating is a bad thing, you cheat to get more ratio to keep up your downloading.
bravo sherlock ! :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Amber
nice deduction indeed :yup:
I agree it's bad. But if no ratio cheating means no leechers then it also means no seeder. That equals a dead tracker. It happens everyday these days -.-
yea, lets all ratio cheat, then we wont have to seed, then when we go to download a file.... wait wtf, where are all the seeders!??!!?
think about it for more then 1 minute and take your greed out of the equation and you'll realize ratio cheating by enough members will kill the amount of seeders, when that happens people stop using the site, stop donating, and the site dies. ratio cheating is terrible for any site and anyone with a different outlook is just ignorant. im usually all for differing opinions but this is like trying to argue that 2 plus 2 doesnt equal 4, you'll end up looking dumb. and in this case you'll also end up banned for your stupidity.
It makes the trackers stats look better so I couldn't see how it would hurt.