I decide never to trade again~~``

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08-03-2009, 05:16 PM
IdolEyes787

Re: I decide never to trade again~~``

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Originally Posted by Zip

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Best trackers? Is this a consensus thing or is individual taste still factored in?

Or are we going by purely empirical measurement?

I mean highlevels. :mellow:

Sorry by best I thought maybe you meant ..you know....best.
08-03-2009, 05:18 PM
Zip

Re: I decide never to trade again~~``

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

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I mean highlevels. :mellow:

Sorry by best I thought maybe you meant ..you know....best.

Everyone knows that level 1 trackers are the crappiest ones, and level 10 ones are by far the best ones! ;)
08-03-2009, 05:22 PM
IdolEyes787

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I always thought that the ones that won't let me in are the best.
Saves us both a lot f trouble.
08-03-2009, 05:28 PM
Yoann64

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Originally Posted by Zip

Everyone knows that level 1 trackers are the crappiest ones, and level 10 ones are by far the best ones! ;)

level 10 = Best ? Why ?
08-03-2009, 05:30 PM
Zip

Re: I decide never to trade again~~``

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

I always thought that the ones that won't let me in are the best.

That's true as well. As long as they don't have us as members they are best. :frusty:
08-03-2009, 05:36 PM
The_Martinator

Re: I decide never to trade again~~``

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Originally Posted by Yoann64

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Originally Posted by Zip

Everyone knows that level 1 trackers are the crappiest ones, and level 10 ones are by far the best ones! ;)

level 10 = Best ? Why ?

Because the majority of FST's members say so. :P
08-03-2009, 05:57 PM
Yoann64

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level 10 = Best ? Why ?

Because the majority of FST's members say so. :P

Then I am a part of the minority which thinks that is bullshit :whistling
08-03-2009, 05:58 PM
deadalive1

Re: I decide never to trade again~~``

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Originally Posted by Yoann64

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Originally Posted by Zip

Everyone knows that level 1 trackers are the crappiest ones, and level 10 ones are by far the best ones! ;)

level 10 = Best ? Why ?

Because some people here look at that WTAW listing and equate levels with degrees of excellence. Level 1 = shit (as you seen someone say earlier) while Level 10 = uber-1337 (so must be awesome).

People need to stop treating that list like it is the end all be all. Levels are mostly for traders, they need to put a value on trackers so they can know what it is worth. Every tracker (well most) no matter where they fall on ANY list has something to offer a person. It is what YOU think of the tracker NOT what some damn list says it is.
08-03-2009, 06:06 PM
megabyteme

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10 is best?!!! Damn, thought I was pretty cool with my level 1's. :cry:
08-03-2009, 06:14 PM
Zip

Re: I decide never to trade again~~``

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Originally Posted by deadalive1

Levels are mostly for traders

It's funny how often that sentence is being repeated. :P

While that may be the truth, a lot of anti-traders and non-traders consider that as their bible as well. :lol:
08-03-2009, 06:39 PM
Yoann64

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...a lot of anti-traders and non-traders consider that as their bible as well. :lol:

I know this "bible":
HL trackers =
1 - More secure
2 - Good content
3 - Great community
not sure, that they (members of HL trackers) are really objective.
08-03-2009, 08:11 PM
Cabalo

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Originally Posted by The_Martinator

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Originally Posted by Yoann64

level 10 = Best ? Why ?

Because the majority of FST's members say so. :P

indeed. especially those so-called invite hunters. :)
08-03-2009, 10:01 PM
IdolEyes787

Re: I decide never to trade again~~``

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Originally Posted by Zip

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I always thought that the ones that won't let me in are the best.

That's true as well. As long as they don't have us as members they are best. :frusty:

I'm glad you agree . Now if you can just stop quoting out of context we might be actually getting somewhere.

Sorry if I fail to give the topic the proper respect it deserves btw .

Actually I've forgotten what the topic is but I figure that statement is a pretty safe bet.
Thinking about making it my sig.
08-04-2009, 06:58 AM
The_Martinator

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Because the majority of FST's members say so. :P

indeed. especially those so-called invite hunters. :)

We have some ooooold, wise members here. They see right through people. It's like they had super powers. You may refer to them as BT heroes. :noes:
08-04-2009, 07:32 AM
iLOVENZB

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The point of private BT trackers has gone out the window, with users trading invites to get into the 'best' trackers.

Now the 'best' trackers are full of insecure users.

Thank you traders!

the best trackers include for example TL, and it's not because of traders that it is insecure. :ermm:

I've noticed in scene notices the mention TL (among other trackers), many times :shutup:.
08-04-2009, 10:16 PM
S3v3N

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:happy:
08-04-2009, 11:16 PM
KushBlow

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:happy:

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Last edited by S3v3N; Today at 10:23 PM..

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08-08-2009, 04:57 AM
Rart

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I had been lurking here for a long time before I finally created an account, and while I agree that more likely than not the OP is just trying to get rained down with with invites at his revelation, I admire megabyteme for his efforts.

Alot of these posts tend to get filled with massive amounts of sarcastic remarks and flames from regulars in a matter of hours (no offence) and its a breath of fresh air to not see someone completely rain down terror on the op.
08-08-2009, 05:03 AM
KushBlow

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I had been lurking here for a long time before I finally created an account, and while I agree that more likely than not the OP is just trying to get rained down with with invites at his revelation, I admire megabyteme for his efforts.

Alot of these posts tend to get filled with massive amounts of sarcastic remarks and flames from regulars in a matter of hours (no offence) and its a breath of fresh air to not see someone completely rain down terror on the op.

I think FST to traders is what USA is to Iraq.
08-08-2009, 05:11 AM
Rart

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Thats a good way to put it, but what about the entire trade section on FST? Thats like making the connection that the USA allows a massive collection of know terrorists to harbor on their soil:huh:
08-08-2009, 05:16 AM
KushBlow

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Thats a good way to put it, but what about the entire trade section on FST? Thats like making the connection that the USA allows a massive collection of know terrorists to harbor on their soil:huh:

One of them was even a president :whistling.
08-08-2009, 05:53 AM
megabyteme

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Originally Posted by Rart

I had been lurking here for a long time before I finally created an account, and while I agree that more likely than not the OP is just trying to get rained down with with invites at his revelation, I admire megabyteme for his efforts.

Alot of these posts tend to get filled with massive amounts of sarcastic remarks and flames from regulars in a matter of hours (no offence) and its a breath of fresh air to not see someone completely rain down terror on the op.

Thanks, Rart!

PM me if you want to chat sometime.:)
08-08-2009, 06:03 AM
Rart

Re: I decide never to trade again~~``

Unfortunately, I can't yet :-P
08-08-2009, 06:30 AM
megabyteme

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PM me on demonoid...same username. Find George Orwell 3 books + 3 Essays. My name will be in the comments.
08-08-2009, 08:28 AM
momassalha

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trade its suck i don't like it i hope u never trade again .
08-08-2009, 02:09 PM
charliebitme

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I'm new here and I've been thinking about this...I've mostly been thinking about public giveaways VS trading. In public giveaways, your trust is often built on ratioproofs,speedtests and a couple of sentences. Sure, a very good member that have proven to this or any other site that he is very trustable can step forward and apply for a giveaway but you still don't have any personal connection or something alike - your trust is basically built on the fact that he seems/is(depending on how much of a pessismist you are,choose a word:P) trusted to others. So either your trust has to be built on speed,ratio and a couple of not so meaningful words or that he is trusted by others and I find this a bit worrying(+you risk getting banned:().

In trading, there is often no trust between the traders that he or she will use the account/be an active&good member, the only trust that is required is the trust that he/she won't be scammed or tricked in any way. But let's say that the trader decides that he want's to be really careful - he does the same thing as in GA's - he asks for ratioproofs,profilelinks,speedtests and checks if he's an active member here except the trade section or an active member on the torrentsites etc. If he does this, he should be pretty sure that the one he invites is an asset to the site in the same way people that do public GA's will want/have to be pretty sure about this.

So, except the fact that you're giving when doing public GA's, what's worse - Trading and being extremely careful or doing public GA's and being careful?

I do not trade and haven't traded...And after thinking about this, I'm in real doubt if I should do public giveaways.

So, I want you opinions about this perspective and if I should do public GA's or not?

And creds to megabyteme and the few others here that still thinks he can become better:)
08-08-2009, 02:32 PM
prasannab13

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good thing bro
08-08-2009, 02:40 PM
TP635

Re: I decide never to trade again~~``

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Originally Posted by charliebitme

I'm new here and I've been thinking about this...I've mostly been thinking about public giveaways VS trading. In public giveaways, your trust is often built on ratioproofs,speedtests and a couple of sentences. Sure, a very good member that have proven to this or any other site that he is very trustable can step forward and apply for a giveaway but you still don't have any personal connection or something alike - your trust is basically built on the fact that he seems/is(depending on how much of a pessismist you are,choose a word:P) trusted to others. So either your trust has to be built on speed,ratio and a couple of not so meaningful words or that he is trusted by others and I find this a bit worrying(+you risk getting banned:().

In trading, there is often no trust between the traders that he or she will use the account/be an active&good member, the only trust that is required is the trust that he/she won't be scammed or tricked in any way. But let's say that the trader decides that he want's to be really careful - he does the same thing as in GA's - he asks for ratioproofs,profilelinks,speedtests and checks if he's an active member here except the trade section or an active member on the torrentsites etc. If he does this, he should be pretty sure that the one he invites is an asset to the site in the same way people that do public GA's will want/have to be pretty sure about this.

So, except the fact that you're giving when doing public GA's, what's worse - Trading and being extremely careful or doing public GA's and being careful?

I do not trade and haven't traded...And after thinking about this, I'm in real doubt if I should do public giveaways.

So, I want you opinions about this perspective and if I should do public GA's or not?

And creds to megabyteme and the few others here that still thinks he can become better:)

Ratio can easily be faked and a good speed test does not make a person a better user.

Public GA is seen by many trackers to be just as bad as treading.
08-08-2009, 05:27 PM
sez

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Basically both of them are frowned upon,though its utter hypocrisy as to how some trackers warm up to some forums that do exactly what you'll be banned for doing in the giveaway section here,its this double standard that sometimes gets to me and kinda makes a huge mockery of the tracker rules.i'd even be tempted to say that these invite pusher forums are more insecure than this place coz if you look at it these sites exist coz of invites,takeaway the invites and they are more than dead,so any smart RIAA/MPAA spy who has done his stats will tell you that if you want invites you start with where you know they are obviously available and at where trackers such as iTS are as comfortable to even recruit from than to start with a place where your chances of being banned on a tracker increase by upto 50% just for registering.
08-08-2009, 05:28 PM
megabyteme

Re: I decide never to trade again~~``

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Originally Posted by charliebitme

So, except the fact that you're giving when doing public GA's, what's worse - Trading and being extremely careful or doing public GA's and being careful?

I do not trade and haven't traded...And after thinking about this, I'm in real doubt if I should do public giveaways.

So, I want you opinions about this perspective and if I should do public GA's or not?

And creds to megabyteme and the few others here that still thinks he can become better:)

Thanks, charliebitme! I really appreciate your kind and encouraging words.

I believe you have analyzed quite a bit of what goes on with trading and public give-aways. I differ with you on the points regarding "careful" traders. Care is not something that a trader needs to take- as you pointed out, as long as they don't get scammed, all is well.

I imagine that there are some traders who care. Primarily, I think that they are just looking for the next "high". The E-peen. The temporary "elite". The next "deal". Relationship with trackers and other members is minimal. They are more Ayn Rand egoist than anything else (not a compliment). IMO, traders are far more for themselves that they are for any community. If they build up a ratio, it is not for the site or the members- it is simply to make their trade more valuable.

Public give-aways. These are typically good members of other sites who have connections and investments in those sites. Giving away invites does one of two things for the giver.

1) It allows that member to look for new, enthusiastic members who will hopefully be an asset to that site. Does the potential member have good ratios? Does he help other members on this site? Is this person fun or interesting? Have they acted in a manner that shows they deserve a shot at being part of the new community? If the answer is yes to most (or preferably)or all, then it is worthwhile to give that member a chance.

2)The person doing the give-away can make themselves look like a better member of this community by giving invites and getting "rep".

I spend a lot of time reading posts. I did so for quite a while before joining in the discussions. After you read page after page of (sometimes mind-numbing) posts, you get a pretty good feeling for what that person is like. It is not foolproof, but good members from other sites have good reason to check people out thoroughly.

So, my recommendation to you is to become rooted in this community and on other sites that you enjoy. Do everything you can to be active and valuable to those sites. Once you get to know who is a good community member, compare that to the people who are putting on a false-face. People who are trying to look good. You will be able to spot the differences.

Good luck and thanks for taking the time to think so deeply about the subtle differences around here. People who care are always valuable!
08-09-2009, 05:18 PM
charliebitme

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Thanks for all the answers to my post..after careful thinking, I've decided that I won't do giveaways here...But after I've been here a while, I'll hopefully know who's trustable and not. And if I want to give invites anyway,It'll happen via PM and I'll only give to people that prove that they can really contribute to the tracker somehow.
08-09-2009, 06:15 PM
megabyteme

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You are very welcome, charliebitme!

I believe your conclusion is a very good and responsible one. I have tried a couple of give-aways and have had mixed emotions. On one hand, it feels good to help people out. On the other, it can be very disappointing. If you look through my posts, you will see that I just closed the thread without giving away all that I had.

I think ultimately, it isn't about how many invites you give away, it comes down to finding good members who will make the community stronger and more enjoyable.

Feel free to pm me when you get through your first month, charliebitme.
08-10-2009, 01:54 AM
TP635

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Originally Posted by charliebitme

Thanks for all the answers to my post..after careful thinking, I've decided that I won't do giveaways here...But after I've been here a while, I'll hopefully know who's trustable and not. And if I want to give invites anyway,It'll happen via PM and I'll only give to people that prove that they can really contribute to the tracker somehow.

I never use this forum to give public invite. I did get some invites from the GA forum but that was way back. I don't even read that part of the forum anymore.
It is best practice here is to give invite via PM, but not in respond to invite request in the request forum. If you are here long enough, you will know who need what and who have what.
08-10-2009, 02:27 AM
sear

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I'm new here

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...orly_bowie.jpg
08-10-2009, 05:59 AM
Swift

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hoping to get some supports~~~~~~~

what kind of support ? financial :lol:
08-10-2009, 02:57 PM
Rart

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Invitcial support.
08-10-2009, 06:57 PM
charliebitme

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I'm new here

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...orly_bowie.jpg

Revenge!:P
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1.../Not_Funny.jpg
http://homepage.eircom.net/~wastedyouth/notfunny.jpg
I can also google images:P
08-10-2009, 10:24 PM
megabyteme

Re: I decide never to trade again~~``

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Originally Posted by charliebitme

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Originally Posted by sear

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...orly_bowie.jpg

Revenge!:P
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1.../Not_Funny.jpg
http://homepage.eircom.net/~wastedyouth/notfunny.jpg
I can also google images:P

Hey now! That was pretty slick. Where did you guys get the pics of the ambiguously gay guy and the funny cats?... Those could really come in handy when somebody is being an ass for no reason. :lol:
08-10-2009, 10:55 PM
IdolEyes787

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Originally Posted by megabyteme

Where did you guys get the pics of the ambiguously gay guy :lol:

Ambiguously gay guy is one of the greatest musicians of all time.
08-10-2009, 11:20 PM
KushBlow

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

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Originally Posted by megabyteme

Where did you guys get the pics of the ambiguously gay guy :lol:

Ambiguously gay guy is one of the greatest musicians of all time.

http://i28.tinypic.com/wu01gk.jpg

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