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I don't follow that logic IdolEyes...
Take for example the medical marijuana laws. My state says we can have marijuana for medical reasons, therefor, they support my right to not be prosecuted for using it medicinally.
Same goes for any law, or rule. It shows support: a common feeling of acceptance by the majority who are in control.
Guess thats just my opinion, but having a trading section is basically saying openly that 'hey, this is OK here'
I guess I was going with the definition of support of "to be in favor of " otherwise I'm going to have to create a sig that reads " certain viewpoints are those of the site and the twits really in charge and do not necessarily reflect the views or beliefs of it's staff. " .:idunno:
Still think anyone who doesn't want to trade simply doesn't have to though instead of me telling them not to and them pretending to give a fuck what I say and doing it in secret anyway like other places .
I may be deluding my self about certain things ( as regards FST) but I'm not that delusion.
Kinda like the government and the marijuana thing I suppose. :whistling
What about the 'middle-man' service? In my eyes providing a service so that trades are carried out successfully shows support for trading in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
and where do you see the middleman service actively working here ?
If the middle-men service is no longer allowed here then ok. However if the middle-man service is still being used in order to make trading safe, but at the same time members who seek to stop trading, either by posting in trade threads or by capturing IP's are banned or warned then I would say FST is actively encouraging trading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
The middleman issue is being left to the users consideration here
Members who are trying to capture IPs usually end up banned. It's not something you do to a community you're a part of. You're betraying all your fellow members. A good example can be found at this thread.
Members can participate in trade threads obviously. We just assume it's spam if someone is making a trade request and some guy shows up saying: "trading is bad, mmmkay?"
Same would apply if a user is requesting an invite and some guy shows up and says: "try to get it via trading, do something for yourself".
Just because there is a trade section does not mean it is supported by FST or all the forums members. It is a members choice to trade and break their track rules. If there was no trade section here it would not stop trading. People that want to trade will go to another trade forum or do it by email,IM,etc.
FST has no middleman service wheeloftime.Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeloftimeWhat about the 'middle-man' service? In my eyes providing a service so that trades are carried out successfully shows support for trading in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Ohh, ok. Haven't been in the trade section for a long time. They always used to have one, and if I remember rightly it was the FST mods who acted as middle-men. But if they have stopped it then great.Quote:
Originally Posted by pone44
I couldn't open the link but I looked in the trade section and I assume the thread is the one where a member is trying to recruit middle-men. Even though you implied FST doesn't actively support middle-men, an FST mod still decided to sticky the thread! Obviously someone here decided it was important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
I think I know who the guy you're talking about is. Anyways, I'm not going to say his name just so I can protect his identity. Many of the staff members at TorrentInvite.com are NOT a decent bunch because they don't take the time to try and spell correctly or even put a whole sentence together.
As for the trading thing, I think that many of them are. Some people just give out invites to sites that are hard to join only so that they could end up joining the tracker of their dreams. What kind of bull is that? :wacko:
lol, one of staff members there can barely write proper English. I have to reread his comments three to four times just to understand the gist of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slickerey
A couple of TorrentInvite.com's staff members come to mind when you're talking about people that can't even spell correctly. His seedboxes may be good but his attitude (and English) aren't good at all.
Not at all; you haven't considered interference or even participation rates.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
allowing trading to go on sends the wrong message. especially to those new to private trackers, who see trading going on and think it's appropriate (meanwhile they may be inadvertently compromising the bit torrent community by allowing the wrong element into trackers).Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
whether it is technically supporting trading or not is irrelevant, because it has the appearance of support. it is better to avoid impropriety, actual or perceived.
if a forum doesn't support trading, it should ban members for doing it. yes trading will still continue somewhere, somehow, just like all illicit activities, but treating it as an illicit activity will send the correct message, teach the uninformed, and reduce trading overall in the bit torrent community.
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excellent i thing this is one of the best post
I agree 100% with the original thread
i read this post today but i was thinking the same thing since long
after all every thing is a trade which involves greed.
all invite sites are soft traders.
I don't disagree but I'm not in a position to effect those changes.Sorry if that sounds like a cop-out but it's the truth .As for any perceived hypocrisy of my continuing participation in a site that de facto supports trading all I can say is that I believe that I attempt to push the site in better direction .Quote:
Originally Posted by kurdtallowing trading to go on sends the wrong message. especially to those new to private trackers, who see trading going on and think it's appropriate (meanwhile they may be inadvertently compromising the bit torrent community by allowing the wrong element into trackers).Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
whether it is technically supporting trading or not is irrelevant, because it has the appearance of support. it is better to avoid impropriety, actual or perceived.
if a forum doesn't support trading, it should ban members for doing it. yes trading will still continue somewhere, somehow, just like all illicit activities, but treating it as an illicit activity will send the correct message, teach the uninformed, and reduce trading overall in the bit torrent community.